First time eating raw liver

[yuvdon]

It was disgusting I thought it will taste like chocolate but it taste like iron

 

[Clqs]

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[Chungus]

Starve yourself so you can learn to appreciate it then

 

[Sceptical]

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you poor baby...

 

[Clqs]

you poor baby...

It's ok, I'll get over it somehow

 

[itssoover0457]

u never wanted chocolate. what u actually wanted was raw liver

 

[TheAncientMacedonia]

retard

 

[Veridic]

It was disgusting I thought it will taste like chocolate but it taste like iron

How does the lack of micronutrient absorption taste like? Useless torture huh

 

[Sceptical]

It's ok, I'll get over it somehow

 

[Chungus]

How does the lack of micronutrient absorption taste like? Useless torture huh

Why would cooked food have better nutritional profiles? Cooking denatures almost everything

 

[Veridic]

Why would cooked food have better nutritional profiles? Cooking denatures almost everything

As I’ve explained so many times, this is a myth.

Heat denatures protein structures to improve digestion and amino acid bioavailability as well as a shit ton of micro nutrients that your body would not have absorbed as well.

There are studies and evidence providing you guys with this information, hell even chatgpt would definitely agree with this.

Yet you continue torturing yourselves with the same methods that were the reason why we didn’t begin to see any brain expansion until we discovered that cooking our food was much more beneficial for us.

 

[alurmo]

i should start being ggrateful for my common sense

 

[Chungus]

As I’ve explained so many times, this is a myth.

Heat denatures protein structures to improve digestion and amino acid bioavailability as well as a shit ton of micro nutrients that your body would not have absorbed as well.

There are studies and evidence providing you guys with this information, he’ll even chatgpt would definitely agree with this.

Yet you continue torturing yourselves with the same methods that were the reason why we didn’t begin to see any brain expansion until we discovered that cooking our food was much more beneficial for us.

Heat doesn't denature protein structures to improve "anything" it is heat and it doesn't have a goal. Also, since you are saying it improves digestion/amino blahblah bullshit without evidence why do humans not choke on raw foods? (Considering swallowing is a part of digestion)
The only time cooking does improve bioavailbility is for vegetables, and for meats it destroys the nutrition content. I mean it's established heat sensitive nutrients and water soluble nutrients are lost during cooking
No other animal on earth cooks their food and they rarely become ill. Why is it that the sickest species on earth is an exception?

 

[Veridic]

Heat doesn't denature protein structures to improve "anything" it is heat and it doesn't have a goal. Also, since you are saying it improves digestion/amino blahblah bullshit without evidence why do humans not choke on raw foods? (Considering swallowing is a part of digestion)
The only time cooking does improve bioavailbility is for vegetables, and for meats it destroys the nutrition content. I mean it's established heat sensitive nutrients and water soluble nutrients are lost during cooking
No other animal on earth cooks their food and they rarely become ill. Why is it that the sickest species on earth is an exception?

There are studies conducted on this so I’m not sure what you mean by no evidence.

We don’t choke on raw meat because we chew and swallow? That was a pretty retarded question. Raw meat just takes more energy to digest and animals like carnivores don’t cook meat because they literally do not have fire or the brain power on top of longer guts (google tells you this) but many die young from parasites or infections.

I don’t really see why you guys try so hard to be different when this has evolutionarily been documented as beneficial by killing off pathogens (muh it lives in your gut), softening the food for our smaller guts, and lowering fertility issues. Genuinely gotta stop coping as if this is some superior method when all you guys do this for is the novelty of being different in a modern society of comfort

 

[Chungus]

There are studies conducted on this so I’m not sure what you mean by no evidence.

There are no studies that evidence an overall improvement in nutrition profiles

We don’t choke on raw meat because we chew and swallow? That was a pretty retarded question. Raw meat just takes more energy to digest and animals like carnivores don’t cook meat because they literally do not have fire or the brain power on top of longer guts (google tells you this) but many die young from parasites or infections.

The point was that raw meat is easier to swallow and thereby easier to digest. Raw meat may take more energy to digest but that is because there is more to digest when nutrients are completely bioavailable

I don’t really see why you guys try so hard to be different when this has evolutionarily been documented as beneficial by killing off pathogens (muh it lives in your gut), softening the food for our smaller guts, and lowering fertility issues.

These are all random benefits that aren’t provable or disprovable. Overall humans now though are the sickest, fattest, and most infertile they’ve ever been

 

[Veridic]

There are no studies that evidence an overall improvement in nutrition profiles

The point was that raw meat is easier to swallow and thereby easier to digest. Raw meat may take more energy to digest but that is because there is more to digest when nutrients are completely bioavailable

These are all random benefits that aren’t provable or disprovable. Overall humans now though are the sickest, fattest, and most infertile they’ve ever been

Smh, just coping with arguing semantics only to pivot into broad over generalizations that sound like they address the point but arent anything more than correlation =/= causation.

Eat what you want, we both know and have enough evidence dictating a very noticeable improvement in our development as a species once we started cooking meat. Using modern goyslop diets as your anchor to why everyone is so unhealthy is useless because we’ve been cooking meat for far longer than it existed.

How are you going to debate something then tell me neither side is provable or disprovable

 

[Brava]

It was disgusting I thought it will taste like chocolate but it taste like iron

It’s low k not that bad

 

[Chungus]

Smh, just coping with arguing semantics only to pivot into broad over generalizations that sound like they address the point but arent anything more than correlation =/= causation.

Smh, criticizing my arguments structure to avoid addressing my arguments, and throwing in a random fallacy I didn’t use

Eat what you want, we both know and have enough evidence dictating a very noticeable improvement in our development as a species once we started cooking meat. Using modern goyslop diets as your anchor to why everyone is so unhealthy is useless because we’ve been cooking meat for far longer than it existed.

I don’t see any improvements, we can’t even fit our teeth on our palates anymore….

How are you going to debate something then tell me neither side is provable or disprovable

Because what you said is imaginary muh “pathogens”

 

[Veridic]

There are no studies that evidence an overall improvement in nutrition profiles

The point was that raw meat is easier to swallow and thereby easier to digest. Raw meat may take more energy to digest but that is because there is more to digest when nutrients are completely bioavailable

These are all random benefits that aren’t provable or disprovable. Overall humans now though are the sickest, fattest, and most infertile they’ve ever been

Smh, just coping with arguing semantics only to pivot into broad over generalizations that sound like they address the point but arent anything more than correlation =/= causation.

Eat what you want, we both know and have enough evidence dictating a very noticeable improvement in our development as a species once we started cooking meat. Using modern goyslop diets as your anchor to why everyone is so unhealthy is useless because we’ve been cooking meat for far longer than it existed.

How are you going to debate something then tell me neither side is provable or disprovable

Smh, criticizing my arguments structure to avoid addressing my arguments, and throwing in a random fallacy I didn’t use

I don’t see any improvements, we can’t even fit our teeth on our palates anymore….

Because what you said is imaginary muh “pathogens”

Pathogens are not imaginary. I’m guessing you’re one of those types to discredit a study because “it’s what the jews want you to believe” types.

Malocclusion is a result of soft processed foods and agriculture so not even related to the topic, and cooked meat is still tough to encourage development. Argument dismissed.

Raw meat simply has no proven edge to humans over cooked meat which on the other hand does have evidence and historical consistency. Show me any raw meat studies that beats cooked when accounting for energy, absorption, or safety, literally anything.

Until then this conversation full of goalpost shift coping will not be moving forward.

 

[iblamexyz]

It was disgusting I thought it will taste like chocolate but it taste like iron

Must of been some bad quality liver icl

@Saint

 

[Chungus]

Pathogens are not imaginary. I’m guessing you’re one of those types to discredit a study because “it’s what the jews want you to believe” types.

Have you seen them lol

Malocclusion is a result of soft processed foods and agriculture so not even related to the topic, and cooked meat is still tough to encourage development. Argument dismissed.

Tough foods aren’t responsible for jaw development. If a human only ate plants growing up they would be recessed. Nutrition abundant raw meat is responsible for jaw development

Raw meat simply has no proven edge to humans over cooked meat which on the other hand does have evidence and historical consistency. Show me any raw meat studies that beats cooked when accounting for energy, absorption, or safety, literally anything.

Here is a random study…

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/229878159_Vitamin_B12_E_and_D_Content_of_Raw_and_Cooked_Beef

 

[Veridic]

Have you seen them lol

Tough foods aren’t responsible for jaw development. If a human only ate plants growing up they would be recessed. Nutrition abundant raw meat is responsible for jaw development

Here is a random study…

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/229878159_Vitamin_B12_E_and_D_Content_of_Raw_and_Cooked_Beef

Looks extensive and I’m working on a guide right now so I’ll take a proper look when I can and come up with a response, otherwise pathogens are very well documented so I’m not sure what your point is there.

Also your second point is contradicting itself.

 

[Chungus]

Looks extensive and I’m working on a guide right now so I’ll take a proper look when I can and come up with a response, otherwise pathogens are very well documented so I’m not sure what your point is there.

Also your second point is contradicting itself.

How is my second point contradictory? Raw meat is pretty soft, especially compared to cooked meat and vegetables

 

[Veridic]

How is my second point contradictory? Raw meat is pretty soft, especially compared to cooked meat and vegetables

My point was on the chewiness which is what encourages jaw development throughout adolescence

 

[yuvdon]

Must of been some bad quality liver icl

@Saint

I buyed from frank tufano shop

 

[Saint]

Must of been some bad quality liver icl

@Saint

Yep, probs grain fed or smth. The one I get is purple and smells delicious. I want to buy some tomorrow