fixing your face won’t fix the parts of you people instinctively recoil from

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that sounds harsh but it's true, a lot of people in this place have the idea that if they just correct the slope of their nose, carve a jawline out of bone, or cut fat on their face they'll finally be someone worth liking, but that's not the reality, the thing nobody tells you is that a good face doesn't come with a good personality, and people can tell, almost instantly.

your personality, the way you talk, the way you connect, your presence, is mostly baked in by the time you're old enough to realize something's wrong, it's not a matter of 'working on it' or 'changing your mindset', when people recommend these things what they mean is that you should mask your actual character, you'll still feel the same way underneath, rehearsing social cues, faking warmth, polishing your trauma into something more palatable, all so that others don't have to put effort into understanding you.

but at the end of the day, that mask still isn't you.

if you grew up weird, isolated, neglected, or neurodivergent, or you're just naturally low on whatever invisible social currency your culture values, you'll carry that with you long after the filler settles, or the swelling goes down, you'll still default to silence, still overanalyze every interaction, still feel like you're acting, because you are.

people say 'just be yourself', but that only works if 'yourself' is someone people naturally like, most of us here learned early that being ourselves just means more distance, more silence, and more rooms that go cold, and yeah being prettier might get you invited, but it won't get you included, you'll still be the same person at the table, just with a sharper chin and a bit more definition around the cheekbones.

and that disconnect is brutal.

you keep waiting for the dopamine to show up, for your new face to unlock part of you that feels like you belong, but it does not and will not, you're still sitting inside yourself, watching life happen around you, you might get more compliments, maybe even some attention, but you're not loved, you're not understood, you're just easier to look at while being ignored.

the truth is, you can dissolve fat, fill hollows, widen jawlines, and raise brow positions, but none of that changes the parts of you that were shaped in silence, the parts you learned to hide, the parts that felt wrong before you even knew why.

you can rebuild your face, but not the way people respond to who you are underneath it.

the reality is that I am just as unlovable on the right as on the left.


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that sounds harsh but it's true, a lot of people in this place have the idea that if they just correct the slope of their nose, carve a jawline out of bone, or cut fat on their face they'll finally be someone worth liking, but that's not the reality, the thing nobody tells you is that a good face doesn't come with a good personality, and people can tell, almost instantly.

your personality, the way you talk, the way you connect, your presence, is mostly baked in by the time you're old enough to realize something's wrong, it's not a matter of 'working on it' or 'changing your mindset', when people recommend these things what they mean is that you should mask your actual character, you'll still feel the same way underneath, rehearsing social cues, faking warmth, polishing your trauma into something more palatable, all so that others don't have to put effort into understanding you.

but at the end of the day, that mask still isn't you.

if you grew up weird, isolated, neglected, or neurodivergent, or you're just naturally low on whatever invisible social currency your culture values, you'll carry that with you long after the filler settles, or the swelling goes down, you'll still default to silence, still overanalyze every interaction, still feel like you're acting, because you are.

people say 'just be yourself', but that only works if 'yourself' is someone people naturally like, most of us here learned early that being ourselves just means more distance, more silence, and more rooms that go cold, and yeah being prettier might get you invited, but it won't get you included, you'll still be the same person at the table, just with a sharper chin and a bit more definition around the cheekbones.

and that disconnect is brutal.

you keep waiting for the dopamine to show up, for your new face to unlock part of you that feels like you belong, but it does not and will not, you're still sitting inside yourself, watching life happen around you, you might get more compliments, maybe even some attention, but you're not loved, you're not understood, you're just easier to look at while being ignored.

the truth is, you can dissolve fat, fill hollows, widen jawlines, and raise brow positions, but none of that changes the parts of you that were shaped in silence, the parts you learned to hide, the parts that felt wrong before you even knew why.

you can rebuild your face, but not the way people respond to who you are underneath it.

the reality is that I am just as unlovable on the right as on the left.


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Did your boyfriend break up with you whats up with all the ropefuel :forcedsmile:
 
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Did you ever try to kill yourself metaphorically, leave town restart?
 
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no, we were going through a rough patch but we're mostly fine now, there's still some issues we'll hopefully resolve soon but they're not problems we've got with eachother.
I see well it'll all work out in the end I'm sure.
 
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People Change
 
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that sounds harsh but it's true, a lot of people in this place have the idea that if they just correct the slope of their nose, carve a jawline out of bone, or cut fat on their face they'll finally be someone worth liking, but that's not the reality, the thing nobody tells you is that a good face doesn't come with a good personality, and people can tell, almost instantly.

your personality, the way you talk, the way you connect, your presence, is mostly baked in by the time you're old enough to realize something's wrong, it's not a matter of 'working on it' or 'changing your mindset', when people recommend these things what they mean is that you should mask your actual character, you'll still feel the same way underneath, rehearsing social cues, faking warmth, polishing your trauma into something more palatable, all so that others don't have to put effort into understanding you.

but at the end of the day, that mask still isn't you.

if you grew up weird, isolated, neglected, or neurodivergent, or you're just naturally low on whatever invisible social currency your culture values, you'll carry that with you long after the filler settles, or the swelling goes down, you'll still default to silence, still overanalyze every interaction, still feel like you're acting, because you are.

people say 'just be yourself', but that only works if 'yourself' is someone people naturally like, most of us here learned early that being ourselves just means more distance, more silence, and more rooms that go cold, and yeah being prettier might get you invited, but it won't get you included, you'll still be the same person at the table, just with a sharper chin and a bit more definition around the cheekbones.

and that disconnect is brutal.

you keep waiting for the dopamine to show up, for your new face to unlock part of you that feels like you belong, but it does not and will not, you're still sitting inside yourself, watching life happen around you, you might get more compliments, maybe even some attention, but you're not loved, you're not understood, you're just easier to look at while being ignored.

the truth is, you can dissolve fat, fill hollows, widen jawlines, and raise brow positions, but none of that changes the parts of you that were shaped in silence, the parts you learned to hide, the parts that felt wrong before you even knew why.

you can rebuild your face, but not the way people respond to who you are underneath it.

the reality is that I am just as unlovable on the right as on the left.


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What procedures have you had done, Orc?
 
Damn your ascension is insane.

An argument against this is the less attractive you are the less likely you will be willing to practice socialising.

The more normal looking you are the more you will be accepted by your peers around you. Halo effect. I don’t have to go into detail really.
 
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hopefully.

he's fighting a lot of demons as well.
Hey man at least you realize that. personally i find it really hard to empathize and understand people with their own problems its nice that you can take his feelings into consideration :feelsokman:
 
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Some are just naturally unlikable, I had to spend years acting like someone else, it is exhausting.
 
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This will never happen to me because im a unlovable psycho with 0 personality :feelswhy::feelswhy::feelswhy:
 
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Hey man at least you realize that. personally i find it really hard to empathize and understand people with their own problems its nice that you can take his feelings into consideration :feelsokman:
it is hard for me to not be overbearing, I am overwhelming and try to fix everything for him, but he wants to be his own person and I've gotta respect that.

gotta tone myself down a little bit at least for a while until he's got time to gradually adapt to it.
 
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It’s over if you didn’t grow up drinking cow blood and eating beef liver. If you don’t have a wife you impregnated during her menstruating years and a large family you will also be a fringe outcast freak with a void in your soul. It’s over either way for most people’s. Those who are truly healthy and chad have never heard of this forum. They are busy butchering and Ox for their family to eat raw.

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that sounds harsh but it's true, a lot of people in this place have the idea that if they just correct the slope of their nose, carve a jawline out of bone, or cut fat on their face they'll finally be someone worth liking, but that's not the reality, the thing nobody tells you is that a good face doesn't come with a good personality, and people can tell, almost instantly.

your personality, the way you talk, the way you connect, your presence, is mostly baked in by the time you're old enough to realize something's wrong, it's not a matter of 'working on it' or 'changing your mindset', when people recommend these things what they mean is that you should mask your actual character, you'll still feel the same way underneath, rehearsing social cues, faking warmth, polishing your trauma into something more palatable, all so that others don't have to put effort into understanding you.

but at the end of the day, that mask still isn't you.

if you grew up weird, isolated, neglected, or neurodivergent, or you're just naturally low on whatever invisible social currency your culture values, you'll carry that with you long after the filler settles, or the swelling goes down, you'll still default to silence, still overanalyze every interaction, still feel like you're acting, because you are.

people say 'just be yourself', but that only works if 'yourself' is someone people naturally like, most of us here learned early that being ourselves just means more distance, more silence, and more rooms that go cold, and yeah being prettier might get you invited, but it won't get you included, you'll still be the same person at the table, just with a sharper chin and a bit more definition around the cheekbones.

and that disconnect is brutal.

you keep waiting for the dopamine to show up, for your new face to unlock part of you that feels like you belong, but it does not and will not, you're still sitting inside yourself, watching life happen around you, you might get more compliments, maybe even some attention, but you're not loved, you're not understood, you're just easier to look at while being ignored.

the truth is, you can dissolve fat, fill hollows, widen jawlines, and raise brow positions, but none of that changes the parts of you that were shaped in silence, the parts you learned to hide, the parts that felt wrong before you even knew why.

you can rebuild your face, but not the way people respond to who you are underneath it.

the reality is that I am just as unlovable on the right as on the left.


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Orc, do you think your longstanding account here has been detrimental to your chances?
 
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It’s over if you didn’t grow up drinking cow blood and eating beef liver. If you don’t have a wife you impregnated during her menstruating years and a large family you will also be a fringe outcast freak with a void in your soul. It’s over either way for most people’s. Those who are truly healthy and chad have never heard of this forum. They are busy butchering and Ox for their family to eat raw.

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no liver for my soul
 
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behavior changes, you never stop being the same person on the inside.
Exactly the Mindset that Inhibits Change & Growth
Nothing is Ever the Same Tbh
 
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You can work on all the things you mentioned, although if you arent in a position where you can observe how other people act it might be hard to adjust. Regardless being ugly is still the worst thing you can be. Horrible teeth vs. Autistic personality, boneless face and recessed chin vs not talking much.
 
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It’s over if you didn’t grow up drinking cow blood and eating beef liver. If you don’t have a wife you impregnated during her menstruating years and a large family you will also be a fringe outcast freak with a void in your soul. It’s over either way for most people’s. Those who are truly healthy and chad have never heard of this forum. They are busy butchering and Ox for their family to eat raw.

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I don’t drink cow blood because it hurts
 
no, we were going through a rough patch but we're mostly fine now, there's still some issues we'll hopefully resolve soon but they're not problems we've got with eachother.
Is your bf Chad
 
It's true. Although looksmaxxing can improve your chances, it truly was all determined the moment you were born.
 
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Looksmaxxing wont fix my bpd
 
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It's true. Although looksmaxxing can improve your chances, it truly was all determined the moment you were born.
God doesnt exist
I never did anything to be abused and traumatised as a child and have bpd
 
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too autistic for that, probably going to be stuck in the shithole part of my country forever because that's where my family is.

although, I wouldn't mind moving abroad with my partner.
Sometimes you have to restart, leaving my hometown was like leaving the constant reminders of my failures Help me move past that.

The worst thing about autism/socially anxious, is that people will always remember you that way, no matter how much you improve. My aunts, uncles, old friends all remember me as a shy, anxious kid and they still treat me like I am a alien at events even though I have changed alot. That's why i restarted somewhere else it helped build my confidence.

Also unrelated you went from that to that from just PDO threads and leanmaxxing? Then what about the zygos projection?
 
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God doesnt exist
I never did anything to be abused and traumatised as a child and have bpd
Your parents procreated, that's the problem.
 
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Sometimes you have to restart, leaving my hometown was like leaving the constant reminders of my failures Help me move past that.
it's not that easy when you're as anxious about traveling alone as I am.
The worst thing about autism/socially anxious, is that people will always remember you that way, no matter how much you improve. My aunts, uncles, old friends all remember me as a shy, anxious kid and they still treat me like I am a alien at events even though I have changed alot. That's why i restarted somewhere else it helped build my confidence.
I don't really know anyone in my current area so that's not really the issue.
Also unrelated you went from that to that from just PDO threads and leanmaxxing? Then what about the zygos projection?
and dissolvers, the cheekbones are just losing fat at the temples and shit.
 
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facts, but you can also develop social issues from childhood just because of your looks that can lead to bad things during development like bullying, social isolation which those itself can cause a slew of problems (and this is just accounting for looks, imagine mental conditions on top of that). I'm in a mixed situation because I experienced both sides but overall I'd say my social problems are mostly fine now and currently its an entire matter of my looks which soon will be the least of my problems (atleast my face) so it really depends
 
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that sounds harsh but it's true, a lot of people in this place have the idea that if they just correct the slope of their nose, carve a jawline out of bone, or cut fat on their face they'll finally be someone worth liking, but that's not the reality, the thing nobody tells you is that a good face doesn't come with a good personality, and people can tell, almost instantly.

your personality, the way you talk, the way you connect, your presence, is mostly baked in by the time you're old enough to realize something's wrong, it's not a matter of 'working on it' or 'changing your mindset', when people recommend these things what they mean is that you should mask your actual character, you'll still feel the same way underneath, rehearsing social cues, faking warmth, polishing your trauma into something more palatable, all so that others don't have to put effort into understanding you.

but at the end of the day, that mask still isn't you.

if you grew up weird, isolated, neglected, or neurodivergent, or you're just naturally low on whatever invisible social currency your culture values, you'll carry that with you long after the filler settles, or the swelling goes down, you'll still default to silence, still overanalyze every interaction, still feel like you're acting, because you are.

people say 'just be yourself', but that only works if 'yourself' is someone people naturally like, most of us here learned early that being ourselves just means more distance, more silence, and more rooms that go cold, and yeah being prettier might get you invited, but it won't get you included, you'll still be the same person at the table, just with a sharper chin and a bit more definition around the cheekbones.

and that disconnect is brutal.

you keep waiting for the dopamine to show up, for your new face to unlock part of you that feels like you belong, but it does not and will not, you're still sitting inside yourself, watching life happen around you, you might get more compliments, maybe even some attention, but you're not loved, you're not understood, you're just easier to look at while being ignored.

the truth is, you can dissolve fat, fill hollows, widen jawlines, and raise brow positions, but none of that changes the parts of you that were shaped in silence, the parts you learned to hide, the parts that felt wrong before you even knew why.

you can rebuild your face, but not the way people respond to who you are underneath it.

the reality is that I am just as unlovable on the right as on the left.


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You're just autistic and an emotional faggot jfl
 
Coping classes should be mandatory. Unless you have self love you will never be able to accept the love of others
 
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that sounds harsh but it's true, a lot of people in this place have the idea that if they just correct the slope of their nose, carve a jawline out of bone, or cut fat on their face they'll finally be someone worth liking, but that's not the reality, the thing nobody tells you is that a good face doesn't come with a good personality, and people can tell, almost instantly.

your personality, the way you talk, the way you connect, your presence, is mostly baked in by the time you're old enough to realize something's wrong, it's not a matter of 'working on it' or 'changing your mindset', when people recommend these things what they mean is that you should mask your actual character, you'll still feel the same way underneath, rehearsing social cues, faking warmth, polishing your trauma into something more palatable, all so that others don't have to put effort into understanding you.

but at the end of the day, that mask still isn't you.

if you grew up weird, isolated, neglected, or neurodivergent, or you're just naturally low on whatever invisible social currency your culture values, you'll carry that with you long after the filler settles, or the swelling goes down, you'll still default to silence, still overanalyze every interaction, still feel like you're acting, because you are.

people say 'just be yourself', but that only works if 'yourself' is someone people naturally like, most of us here learned early that being ourselves just means more distance, more silence, and more rooms that go cold, and yeah being prettier might get you invited, but it won't get you included, you'll still be the same person at the table, just with a sharper chin and a bit more definition around the cheekbones.

and that disconnect is brutal.

you keep waiting for the dopamine to show up, for your new face to unlock part of you that feels like you belong, but it does not and will not, you're still sitting inside yourself, watching life happen around you, you might get more compliments, maybe even some attention, but you're not loved, you're not understood, you're just easier to look at while being ignored.

the truth is, you can dissolve fat, fill hollows, widen jawlines, and raise brow positions, but none of that changes the parts of you that were shaped in silence, the parts you learned to hide, the parts that felt wrong before you even knew why.

you can rebuild your face, but not the way people respond to who you are underneath it.

the reality is that I am just as unlovable on the right as on the left.


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Read every word, over for feeling like the main protagonist
 
didn't you make a thread about everyone being genetically inferior or something a few months back
 
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Speaking for yourself, i can hold my mask very good
 
that sounds harsh but it's true, a lot of people in this place have the idea that if they just correct the slope of their nose, carve a jawline out of bone, or cut fat on their face they'll finally be someone worth liking, but that's not the reality, the thing nobody tells you is that a good face doesn't come with a good personality, and people can tell, almost instantly.

your personality, the way you talk, the way you connect, your presence, is mostly baked in by the time you're old enough to realize something's wrong, it's not a matter of 'working on it' or 'changing your mindset', when people recommend these things what they mean is that you should mask your actual character, you'll still feel the same way underneath, rehearsing social cues, faking warmth, polishing your trauma into something more palatable, all so that others don't have to put effort into understanding you.

but at the end of the day, that mask still isn't you.

if you grew up weird, isolated, neglected, or neurodivergent, or you're just naturally low on whatever invisible social currency your culture values, you'll carry that with you long after the filler settles, or the swelling goes down, you'll still default to silence, still overanalyze every interaction, still feel like you're acting, because you are.

people say 'just be yourself', but that only works if 'yourself' is someone people naturally like, most of us here learned early that being ourselves just means more distance, more silence, and more rooms that go cold, and yeah being prettier might get you invited, but it won't get you included, you'll still be the same person at the table, just with a sharper chin and a bit more definition around the cheekbones.

and that disconnect is brutal.

you keep waiting for the dopamine to show up, for your new face to unlock part of you that feels like you belong, but it does not and will not, you're still sitting inside yourself, watching life happen around you, you might get more compliments, maybe even some attention, but you're not loved, you're not understood, you're just easier to look at while being ignored.

the truth is, you can dissolve fat, fill hollows, widen jawlines, and raise brow positions, but none of that changes the parts of you that were shaped in silence, the parts you learned to hide, the parts that felt wrong before you even knew why.

you can rebuild your face, but not the way people respond to who you are underneath it.

the reality is that I am just as unlovable on the right as on the left.


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Org on blackpill based arc, keep it up buddy boyo:feelsohh:
 
Since you live in the netherlands am I correct in assuming you've tried psychedelic truffles before? I feel like more people on this forum need to try mushrooms, responsibly of course.
 
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Since you live in the netherlands am I correct in assuming you've tried psychedelic truffles before? I feel like more people on this forum need to try mushrooms, responsibly of course.
He lives in Thailand
 
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Op you need a therapist and maybe dating coach.
 
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that sounds harsh but it's true, a lot of people in this place have the idea that if they just correct the slope of their nose, carve a jawline out of bone, or cut fat on their face they'll finally be someone worth liking, but that's not the reality, the thing nobody tells you is that a good face doesn't come with a good personality, and people can tell, almost instantly.

your personality, the way you talk, the way you connect, your presence, is mostly baked in by the time you're old enough to realize something's wrong, it's not a matter of 'working on it' or 'changing your mindset', when people recommend these things what they mean is that you should mask your actual character, you'll still feel the same way underneath, rehearsing social cues, faking warmth, polishing your trauma into something more palatable, all so that others don't have to put effort into understanding you.

but at the end of the day, that mask still isn't you.

if you grew up weird, isolated, neglected, or neurodivergent, or you're just naturally low on whatever invisible social currency your culture values, you'll carry that with you long after the filler settles, or the swelling goes down, you'll still default to silence, still overanalyze every interaction, still feel like you're acting, because you are.

people say 'just be yourself', but that only works if 'yourself' is someone people naturally like, most of us here learned early that being ourselves just means more distance, more silence, and more rooms that go cold, and yeah being prettier might get you invited, but it won't get you included, you'll still be the same person at the table, just with a sharper chin and a bit more definition around the cheekbones.

and that disconnect is brutal.

you keep waiting for the dopamine to show up, for your new face to unlock part of you that feels like you belong, but it does not and will not, you're still sitting inside yourself, watching life happen around you, you might get more compliments, maybe even some attention, but you're not loved, you're not understood, you're just easier to look at while being ignored.

the truth is, you can dissolve fat, fill hollows, widen jawlines, and raise brow positions, but none of that changes the parts of you that were shaped in silence, the parts you learned to hide, the parts that felt wrong before you even knew why.

you can rebuild your face, but not the way people respond to who you are underneath it.

the reality is that I am just as unlovable on the right as on the left.


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personality pill is real, truthfully looks do only get you in the door, my awkwardness with girls combined with how emotionally absent i am in relationships makes me just as repulsive as i always was
 
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Another harsh brutal truth thread
You okay buddy? I do agree there's no cure, normies instantly know if you're one of them
 
legit thread
 
I wanted to make fun of you and write something like you are a faggot and dnr, but I have to admit what you wrote is probably true and you one of the few people on this platform who I think are actually kind and helpful and therefore I think you are too harsh to yourself.

I also think your main problem is that everything you are doing you do it for other people, because you want to get acknowledged so bad.

what you should do to enjoy life more and don't think about roping is just focus on the little things in life that brings you joy, like working out, reading books, playing video games or whatever the fuck you like to do, do it for the sake of it, not as a way to improve yourself for other people.
 
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that sounds harsh but it's true, a lot of people in this place have the idea that if they just correct the slope of their nose, carve a jawline out of bone, or cut fat on their face they'll finally be someone worth liking, but that's not the reality, the thing nobody tells you is that a good face doesn't come with a good personality, and people can tell, almost instantly.

your personality, the way you talk, the way you connect, your presence, is mostly baked in by the time you're old enough to realize something's wrong, it's not a matter of 'working on it' or 'changing your mindset', when people recommend these things what they mean is that you should mask your actual character, you'll still feel the same way underneath, rehearsing social cues, faking warmth, polishing your trauma into something more palatable, all so that others don't have to put effort into understanding you.

but at the end of the day, that mask still isn't you.

if you grew up weird, isolated, neglected, or neurodivergent, or you're just naturally low on whatever invisible social currency your culture values, you'll carry that with you long after the filler settles, or the swelling goes down, you'll still default to silence, still overanalyze every interaction, still feel like you're acting, because you are.

people say 'just be yourself', but that only works if 'yourself' is someone people naturally like, most of us here learned early that being ourselves just means more distance, more silence, and more rooms that go cold, and yeah being prettier might get you invited, but it won't get you included, you'll still be the same person at the table, just with a sharper chin and a bit more definition around the cheekbones.

and that disconnect is brutal.

you keep waiting for the dopamine to show up, for your new face to unlock part of you that feels like you belong, but it does not and will not, you're still sitting inside yourself, watching life happen around you, you might get more compliments, maybe even some attention, but you're not loved, you're not understood, you're just easier to look at while being ignored.

the truth is, you can dissolve fat, fill hollows, widen jawlines, and raise brow positions, but none of that changes the parts of you that were shaped in silence, the parts you learned to hide, the parts that felt wrong before you even knew why.

you can rebuild your face, but not the way people respond to who you are underneath it.

the reality is that I am just as unlovable on the right as on the left.


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youre litrally disproving blackpill saying personality matters. LMAo
 

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