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Thoughts @Tom Jones @hebbewem
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There is no free willBad point . A Christian would say its your fault because you have free will and you chose to reject him
I agreeThere is no free will
After all god said to stone your disobedient son in front the village. I cannot understand how people can read this and just say nah it’s whateverWould mostly agree. But I wouldn’t say that God wishes the best for me. I can’t be saved if I messed up. That’s just the modern perverted “interpretation” of an “objective” direction
They would. It doesn’t go well with god being omniscient yet you have free will.Bad point . A Christian would say its your fault because you have free will and you chose to reject him
God being all knowing dosent debunk free will but yeah i agree free will is probaly not trueThey would. It doesn’t go well with god being omniscient yet you have free will.
But if god has a plan for us and he’s aware of it. But we aren’t until we decide that’s not exactly free.God being all knowing dosent debunk free will but yeah i agree free will is probaly not true
Old saggy witch. PSL 1,348
christianity is hardcore, even islam doesn't take it that farAfter all god said to stone your disobedient son in front the village. I cannot understand how people can read this and just say nah it’s whatever
True. The Quaran is mild compared even to the New Testament. The Hadiths tho are a whole other story.christianity is hardcore, even islam doesn't take it that far
Classic bad argument
Didnt destroy anything
Athiest are getting cringier every passing day
Very easy oneTry making a point on just one of her statements then
The only proof of god is in a written text told to a bunch of illiterate goat herders some thousand years ago.Very easy one
Dichotomy of god and satan
In the old testament GOD just didnt show willing to persuade human kind but culling the human kind
see Genesis 19:1–28
Human kind grew in sin and great flood of noah took over and killed almost all the human population
Sodom and Gomorrah are two of the five "cities of the plain" referred in Genesis 13:12 and Genesis 19:29 subject to Chedorlaomer of Elam, which rebel against him. At the Battle of Siddim, Chedorlaomer defeats them and takes many captives, including Lot, the nephew of the Hebrew patriarch Abraham. Abraham gathers his men, rescues Lot, and frees the cities.
Later, God gives advance notice to Abraham that Sodom had a reputation for wickedness. Abraham asks God "Will you sweep away the righteous with the wicked?" (Genesis 18:23). Starting at 50 people, Abraham negotiates with God to spare Sodom if 10 righteous people could be found.
God sends two angels to destroy Sodom. Lot welcomes them into his home, but all the men of the town surround the house and demand that he surrender the visitors that they may "know" them. Lot offers the mob his virgin daughters to "do to them as you please", but they refuse and threaten to do worse to Lot. The angels strike the crowd blind.
Of course the moses and people of eli followed soon and then the cow of gold effigy caused another extinction
Then after all of that comes the new testament where satan essentialy controls the entire human population effectively
Satan let the sheep astray and then comes jesus the messiah
He became a lot and chamber which essentialy taught and culled human sin through birth and reincarnation as proof of holy spirit existence
About half of the end part in new testament is jesus prophecy of the end times through the book of revelation.
So you alraedy see the larger part of entire Old testa and new testa is just god participation actively to led the sheep to righteous path
Only when jesus led the prophecy did god no more participate actively anymore as the larger pursuit of leading the ship
Only the faith in christ and good will saves the person through ultimate sin
The image of GOD as loving figure is not the right figure but the crown of justice is
That is the christian argument
You may argue why not come and tell me but the argument doesnt work when the proof of god is alraedy given multiple times and it didnt change anything in old testament
But both action figures exist.The major reason why the argument of athiesm and bilief is cringe is the same reason why two children arguing which action figure is stronger
When you dont bilieve a single shred of each other existence and you have no knowledge of theological and abstractual argument you are arguing nonsense all the time
If he’s so eager to help us. Just show himselfBut both action figures exist.
No proof of God has ever been shown. Now you’ll argue that evidence of god is impossible to acquire because he is out of the natural realm. Yet nothing we know of is outside of nature.
Nothing makes sense about religion imo.the usual response to this is that satan is causing you to sin. but then again, that would imply that satan is at least equally powerful to god. it doesn't seem to make much sense. that's why I believe in gandy.
I wouldn't even try to argue all that with them. just point out what the premise of their belief is.Nothing makes sense about religion imo.
But god created us sinful and we invoke and strengthen the power of the devil. Why the fuck would this all knowing mofo not just make us perfect
Exactly. Before we even begin to discuss theology let’s take a step back and discuss the authenticity of it all.I wouldn't even try to argue all that with them. just point out what the premise of their belief is.
for example, it's always funny to me how muslims go hardcore in-depth about analyzing their scriptures and stuff, boasting about how "logical" all of it is compared to what other people believe in when the base premise of their belief is that god, an all powerful being, revealed his final message to all of humanity in form of a book written in arabic language in the seventh century.
Thoughts @Tom Jones @hebbewem
We need earn it. God is capitalist.Nothing makes sense about religion imo.
But god created us sinful and we invoke and strengthen the power of the devil. Why the fuck would this all knowing mofo not just make us perfect
God is non existentWe need earn it. God is capitalist.
Actually Christianity is very tame. This is old testiment and Islam is far far brutal, you can kill people for not believing in your faith in Islam, hell slavery is literally legal for all groups in Islam. The list goes on also if you decide to no longer be Muslim you can die. Christianity is soft hippie religion compared to Islam and Judaism, Old Testament is quite hardcore though but “Christian’s” follow the New Testamentchristianity is hardcore, even islam doesn't take it that far
there is no truely free willThere is no free will
Yeah and god was ok with that cos they did not know. Now we know of Christ and Yaweh there’s no choice but to follow him, to not follow him is Heresy and you are sinnerExactly. Before we even begin to discuss theology let’s take a step back and discuss the authenticity of it all.
There were thousand gods before Yahweh and millions of people never even heard of him. They worship eagles or some shut
But Jesus was a Jew. He’s Old TestamentActually Christianity is very tame. This is old testiment and Islam is far far brutal, you can kill people for not believing in your faith in Islam, hell slavery is literally legal for all groups in Islam. The list goes on also if you decide to no longer be Muslim you can die. Christianity is soft hippie religion compared to Islam and Judaism, Old Testament is quite hardcore though but “Christian’s” follow the New Testament
But for real. our consciousness make us automatically think about higher force. I think the whole religion concepts has been formed from it. Thats why we have so many religions.God is non existent
I agree with you on this. But Jesus’a part in the bible and beyond is all New Testament.But Jesus was a Jew. He’s Old Testament
That mofo created the universe a long time ago. Instead of just narrating it to some sheep fucking Israeli dudesYeah and god was ok with that cos they did not know. Now we know of Christ and Yaweh there’s no choice but to follow him, to not follow him is Heresy and you are sinner
God has favs, the same way women prefer chad over normies is the same way god chose the Jew over the GoyThat mofo created the universe a long time ago. Instead of just narrating it to some sheep fucking Israeli dudes
Absolutely. Things like storms, thunder, hurricanes, death for no apparent reason. We made up these stories to attempt to explain them.But for real. our consciousness make us automatically think about higher force. I think the whole religion concepts has been formed from it. Thats why we have so many religions.
An omniscient and omnipotent god cannot coexist with free will. That’s mathematically impossible.Bad point . A Christian would say its your fault because you have free will and you chose to reject him
Very Anti-Semitic of you @Tom Jones ! Care to apologize?!After all god said to stone your disobedient son in front the village. I cannot understand how people can read this and just say nah it’s whatever
Like they give a shit about the laws of the universe. They just want to be assholes and redeem themselves on their deathbed and go to heaven.An omniscient and omnipotent god cannot coexist with free will. That’s mathematically impossible.