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Misconceptions about the term "average looking"
so many incels here discuss how the average looking dude had it as bad as the incels themselves when it comes to the dating market in 2026, but what they described as "average looking" is actually "below average" in looks, there are misconceptions about what the see as an average guy, especially in this forum and the looksmaxxing community in general.
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Average looking ≠ common
Average looking ≠ the type of person you see everyday on the street
Average looking ≠ the majority of the male population
Average looking ≠ LTN
Average looking = 5/10
Average looking = A person with decent baseline, skull shape and boring but non repulsive facial features
Average looking = MTN
If you have these traits then you are not average looking:
- obese ( if you are fat, you are automatically below average, still fixable tho )
- very long midface
- balding ( unless you have a great craniofacial structure that can adapt to balding, which you might not have even as a MTN, most wojak and soyjak memes are balding LTNs excluding chudjak )
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- ogreish repulsive facial features ( shotgun barrel nose, fish lips )
- below 5'10 ( 5'10 to 5'11 is an ideal height for wearing shoe insoles, 6'0 is a minimum height requirement, 6'4 to 6'6 is a mogger height depends on your location )
- above 6'4 to 6'6 ( if you have a 5/10 face and a 6'4 height, it is an smv boost, making you above average )
The common guy Vs. The average looking guy:
The common guy is indian or han chinese,
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but that doesnt mean they are average looking, there is a reason why this forum is full of currycels. ( and even the whites here are just currycels that @Master pays $3 dollars an hour to larp from a mumbai call center )
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The average guy actually looks like wheat waffles, no wonder why he had a girlfriend in the first place and is a grifter, people like him are uncommon to see outside of northwestern europe and north america, that doesnt mean he is above average.
View attachment 4729710
When you look at wheat waffles, you can see that he had thin lips, which is a boring but nonrepulsive facial feature, wheat also have a straight nose, which is again a nonrepulsive facial feature,
View attachment 4729709
wheat waffles have these potato facial features and yet he still have a good baseline shape, that itself makes him a true average looking dude. If you are worst looking than wheat waffles, you are below average in terms of looks.
When a foid say "average looking dude" she is not referring to the dude she sees everyday on the street, she is referring to a guy with a decent baseline combined with potato boring facial features.
The most brutal thing is seeing average looking guys especially white ones saying "ooh bro looks don't matter i'm average and pull 10/10s" igga that's not too hard to believe. There was this fine ass YouTuber (I forgot the name) & her boyfriend was shown he wasn't a Henry cavill but he also wasn't peak subhuman so you could see how she would like him & she was the rich one by the way. But sub5 is so rare without betabuxx deluxe.
If you are average looking, you dont suffer that hard in terms of dating, assuming you are white and neurotypical, there is a reason why norm groids are portrayed as MTN white guy and the oofy doofies are portrayed as neckbeard subhuman cumskin football fans.
Norm groids usually succeed with getting their looksmatches just by being white, NT, and average looking, no wonder why they are so bluepilled and low IQ ( they dont have to IQmaxx and be blackpilled because they can cruise through life, similar to these typical white foids who are hypergamous, enjoying their life without compensating and being perma stressed)
There is a difference between a normgroid and an oofy doofy:
Normgroid - average looking, MTN, looks like a white gen z teenager with broccoli hair, can be spotted on college campuses, more likely to be a frat member. xample is wheat waffles, clav pre-ascension, asu frat leader (face-wise, not including his dorito physique).
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Oofy doofy - below average looking, LTN, looks like a balding wojak/soyjak redditor,
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can be spotted on football stadiums ( football in which you dont have to wear an armour and you just kick the ball, definitely not the NFL ones ) more likely to be a MAGA politics coper.
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oofy doofies are much closer to incels than oofy doofies are to normgroids.
Look at this thread about the average looking guys:
There is a reason why what you called an "average looking" guy is below average looking:
It has nothing to do with superficiality or psychopathy. It's unironically the fact that poor genetics have been allowed to exist through unnatural means for far too long. The multiple industrial revolutions in more recent history and all kinds of technological advancements over thousands of years have supported this and created the problem for everyone in the first place.
For most of human history only around 30-40% of males were able to reproduce, at some times it's even been suggested that 1 in 17 men ever reproduced at all. Things such as enforced monogamy, arranged marriage and advances in decreasing mortality rates among many other things were to push for higher rates of production, but now we are paying the toll for this because we are overpopulated and dysgenic as a species.
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Just look at India and China as perfect examples of this. They are old civilizations who experienced amazing stability and favorable circumstances for thousands of years thanks to interfering with the natural course of life. But now they are in an unfavorable position where the overwhelming majority of their population are left with poor genetics and are suffocating under their own weight.
The brutal blackpill is that feminism is actually doing the world a massive favor. Rather than reproducing with subhumans who should not even be alive, they are using natural discretion and selecting the male bloodlines that SHOULD survive. The reality is if you were undesired by women as a teenager in your peak years, you literally should not even be alive. That doesn't make you weak or a bad person, it is just that you were a victim of greedy people that only ever valued you and your more recent ancestors as slaves to produce for the chads on top.
The solution to resolve all of this is not to create more unnecessary suffering by expecting women to settle for "below average" men a.k.a dysgenic men, but to allow nature to balance out and just leave women to reproduce with who they want. If you are one of those men, great. If you are not, it is what it is.
we have absolutely regressed as a species as a result of almost 2 millenia of strict monotheistic sexual monogamy. Every short, ugly, bald freak was guaranteed a breeding sow as long as he completed his daily menial tasks. That is not how its supposed to go. All the diseases that have become endemic in modern societies are the result of a lack of selective pressure on the gene pool. Therefore, what is happening right now is actually just a natural reaction of females to the physical degeneracy of the average human.
Its just nature correcting itself. Now I can understand that subhumans are raging, after all the system still uses their labour to sustain itself without giving them their promised breeding sow. This will indeed be a problem to be adressed but maybe Al and robots could replace 90% of jobs in the future, So that humans can just lean back and enjoy being human.
TL;DR - The average looking dude is 5/10 not 4/10, also what incels call average looking dude is an oofy doofy (from 3/10 to 4/10) not the typical normgroid you see on college campus (5/10). The reason why the common guy is below average in looks is because of poor genetics being allowed to pass on the gene pool through unnatural means for almost 2 millenia, Every short, ugly, bald freak was guaranteed a breeding sow as long as he completed his daily menial tasks.
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nigga really thought I would read DNRD pussy
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We have Albert Einstein over here who can identify low iq traits
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i somewhat agree but lowk the height thing should be a little shorter if you are like 5'6-5'9 with good basline etc you can prob pull, ive seen it all over school bra
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hig
high iq but the terms are kinda wrong cuz average just means the mean looks
Play this song before reading:Hear My Answer (Tuff Jam Extended Original Mix) - Envelop - i! Records (Side A1)
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Misconceptions about the term "average looking"
so many incels here discuss how the average looking dude had it as bad as the incels themselves when it comes to the dating market in 2026, but what they described as "average looking" is actually "below average" in looks, there are misconceptions about what the see as an average guy, especially in this forum and the looksmaxxing community in general.
View attachment 4729711
Average looking ≠ common
Average looking ≠ the type of person you see everyday on the street
Average looking ≠ the majority of the male population
Average looking ≠ LTN
Average looking = 5/10
Average looking = A person with decent baseline, skull shape and boring but non repulsive facial features
Average looking = MTN
If you have these traits then you are not average looking:
- obese ( if you are fat, you are automatically below average, still fixable tho )
- very long midface
- balding ( unless you have a great craniofacial structure that can adapt to balding, which you might not have even as a MTN, most wojak and soyjak memes are balding LTNs excluding chudjak )
- View attachment 4729718
- ogreish repulsive facial features ( shotgun barrel nose, fish lips )
- below 5'10 ( 5'10 to 5'11 is an ideal height for wearing shoe insoles, 6'0 is a minimum height requirement, 6'4 to 6'6 is a mogger height depends on your location )
- above 6'4 to 6'6 ( if you have a 5/10 face and a 6'4 height, it is an smv boost, making you above average )
The common guy Vs. The average looking guy:
The common guy is indian or han chinese,
View attachment 4729717
but that doesnt mean they are average looking, there is a reason why this forum is full of currycels. ( and even the whites here are just currycels that @Master pays $3 dollars an hour to larp from a mumbai call center )
View attachment 4729715
The average guy actually looks like wheat waffles, no wonder why he had a girlfriend in the first place and is a grifter, people like him are uncommon to see outside of northwestern europe and north america, that doesnt mean he is above average.
View attachment 4729710
When you look at wheat waffles, you can see that he had thin lips, which is a boring but nonrepulsive facial feature, wheat also have a straight nose, which is again a nonrepulsive facial feature,
View attachment 4729709
wheat waffles have these potato facial features and yet he still have a good baseline shape, that itself makes him a true average looking dude. If you are worst looking than wheat waffles, you are below average in terms of looks.
When a foid say "average looking dude" she is not referring to the dude she sees everyday on the street, she is referring to a guy with a decent baseline combined with potato boring facial features.
The most brutal thing is seeing average looking guys especially white ones saying "ooh bro looks don't matter i'm average and pull 10/10s" igga that's not too hard to believe. There was this fine ass YouTuber (I forgot the name) & her boyfriend was shown he wasn't a Henry cavill but he also wasn't peak subhuman so you could see how she would like him & she was the rich one by the way. But sub5 is so rare without betabuxx deluxe.
If you are average looking, you dont suffer that hard in terms of dating, assuming you are white and neurotypical, there is a reason why norm groids are portrayed as MTN white guy and the oofy doofies are portrayed as neckbeard subhuman cumskin football fans.
Norm groids usually succeed with getting their looksmatches just by being white, NT, and average looking, no wonder why they are so bluepilled and low IQ ( they dont have to IQmaxx and be blackpilled because they can cruise through life, similar to these typical white foids who are hypergamous, enjoying their life without compensating and being perma stressed
There is a difference between a normgroid and an oofy doofy:
Normgroid - average looking, MTN, looks like a white gen z teenager with broccoli hair, can be spotted on college campuses, more likely to be a frat member. xample is wheat waffles, clav pre-ascension, asu frat leader (face-wise, not including his dorito physique).
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Oofy doofy - below average looking, LTN, looks like a balding wojak/soyjak redditor,
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can be spotted on football stadiums ( football in which you dont have to wear an armour and you just kick the ball, definitely not the NFL ones ) more likely to be a MAGA politics coper.
View attachment 4729708
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oofy doofies are much closer to incels than oofy doofies are to normgroids.
Look at this thread about the average looking guys:
There is a reason why what you called an "average looking" guy is below average looking:
It has nothing to do with superficiality or psychopathy. It's unironically the fact that poor genetics have been allowed to exist through unnatural means for far too long. The multiple industrial revolutions in more recent history and all kinds of technological advancements over thousands of years have supported this and created the problem for everyone in the first place.
For most of human history only around 30-40% of males were able to reproduce, at some times it's even been suggested that 1 in 17 men ever reproduced at all. Things such as enforced monogamy, arranged marriage and advances in decreasing mortality rates among many other things were to push for higher rates of production, but now we are paying the toll for this because we are overpopulated and dysgenic as a species.
View attachment 4729721
Just look at India and China as perfect examples of this. They are old civilizations who experienced amazing stability and favorable circumstances for thousands of years thanks to interfering with the natural course of life. But now they are in an unfavorable position where the overwhelming majority of their population are left with poor genetics and are suffocating under their own weight.
The brutal blackpill is that feminism is actually doing the world a massive favor. Rather than reproducing with subhumans who should not even be alive, they are using natural discretion and selecting the male bloodlines that SHOULD survive. The reality is if you were undesired by women as a teenager in your peak years, you literally should not even be alive. That doesn't make you weak or a bad person, it is just that you were a victim of greedy people that only ever valued you and your more recent ancestors as slaves to produce for the chads on top.
The solution to resolve all of this is not to create more unnecessary suffering by expecting women to settle for "below average" men a.k.a dysgenic men, but to allow nature to balance out and just leave women to reproduce with who they want. If you are one of those men, great. If you are not, it is what it is.
we have absolutely regressed as a species as a result of almost 2 millenia of strict monotheistic sexual monogamy. Every short, ugly, bald freak was guaranteed a breeding sow as long as he completed his daily menial tasks. That is not how its supposed to go. All the diseases that have become endemic in modern societies are the result of a lack of selective pressure on the gene pool. Therefore, what is happening right now is actually just a natural reaction of females to the physical degeneracy of the average human.
Its just nature correcting itself. Now I can understand that subhumans are raging, after all the system still uses their labour to sustain itself without giving them their promised breeding sow. This will indeed be a problem to be adressed but maybe Al and robots could replace 90% of jobs in the future, So that humans can just lean back and enjoy being human.
TL;DR - The average looking dude is 5/10 not 4/10, also what incels call average looking dude is an oofy doofy (from 3/10 to 4/10) not the typical normgroid you see on college campus (5/10). The reason why the common guy is below average in looks is because of poor genetics being allowed to pass on the gene pool through unnatural means for almost 2 millenia, Every short, ugly, bald freak was guaranteed a breeding sow as long as he completed his daily menial tasks.
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high iq but the terms are kinda wrong cuz average just means the mean looks
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Misconceptions about the term "average looking"
so many incels here discuss how the average looking dude had it as bad as the incels themselves when it comes to the dating market in 2026, but what they described as "average looking" is actually "below average" in looks, there are misconceptions about what the see as an average guy, especially in this forum and the looksmaxxing community in general.
View attachment 4729711
Average looking ≠ common
Average looking ≠ the type of person you see everyday on the street
Average looking ≠ the majority of the male population
Average looking ≠ LTN
Average looking = 5/10
Average looking = A person with decent baseline, skull shape and boring but non repulsive facial features
Average looking = MTN
If you have these traits then you are not average looking:
- obese ( if you are fat, you are automatically below average, still fixable tho )
- very long midface
- balding ( unless you have a great craniofacial structure that can adapt to balding, which you might not have even as a MTN, most wojak and soyjak memes are balding LTNs excluding chudjak )
- View attachment 4729718
- ogreish repulsive facial features ( shotgun barrel nose, fish lips )
- below 5'10 ( 5'10 to 5'11 is an ideal height for wearing shoe insoles, 6'0 is a minimum height requirement, 6'4 to 6'6 is a mogger height depends on your location )
- above 6'4 to 6'6 ( if you have a 5/10 face and a 6'4 height, it is an smv boost, making you above average )
The common guy Vs. The average looking guy:
The common guy is indian or han chinese,
View attachment 4729717
but that doesnt mean they are average looking, there is a reason why this forum is full of currycels. ( and even the whites here are just currycels that @Master pays $3 dollars an hour to larp from a mumbai call center )
View attachment 4729715
The average guy actually looks like wheat waffles, no wonder why he had a girlfriend in the first place and is a grifter, people like him are uncommon to see outside of northwestern europe and north america, that doesnt mean he is above average.
View attachment 4729710
When you look at wheat waffles, you can see that he had thin lips, which is a boring but nonrepulsive facial feature, wheat also have a straight nose, which is again a nonrepulsive facial feature,
View attachment 4729709
wheat waffles have these potato facial features and yet he still have a good baseline shape, that itself makes him a true average looking dude. If you are worst looking than wheat waffles, you are below average in terms of looks.
When a foid say "average looking dude" she is not referring to the dude she sees everyday on the street, she is referring to a guy with a decent baseline combined with potato boring facial features.
The most brutal thing is seeing average looking guys especially white ones saying "ooh bro looks don't matter i'm average and pull 10/10s" igga that's not too hard to believe. There was this fine ass YouTuber (I forgot the name) & her boyfriend was shown he wasn't a Henry cavill but he also wasn't peak subhuman so you could see how she would like him & she was the rich one by the way. But sub5 is so rare without betabuxx deluxe.
If you are average looking, you dont suffer that hard in terms of dating, assuming you are white and neurotypical, there is a reason why norm groids are portrayed as MTN white guy and the oofy doofies are portrayed as neckbeard subhuman cumskin football fans.
Norm groids usually succeed with getting their looksmatches just by being white, NT, and average looking, no wonder why they are so bluepilled and low IQ ( they dont have to IQmaxx and be blackpilled because they can cruise through life, similar to these typical white foids who are hypergamous, enjoying their life without compensating and being perma stressed
There is a difference between a normgroid and an oofy doofy:
Normgroid - average looking, MTN, looks like a white gen z teenager with broccoli hair, can be spotted on college campuses, more likely to be a frat member. xample is wheat waffles, clav pre-ascension, asu frat leader (face-wise, not including his dorito physique).
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Oofy doofy - below average looking, LTN, looks like a balding wojak/soyjak redditor,
View attachment 4729714
can be spotted on football stadiums ( football in which you dont have to wear an armour and you just kick the ball, definitely not the NFL ones ) more likely to be a MAGA politics coper.
View attachment 4729708
View attachment 4729720
View attachment 4729722
oofy doofies are much closer to incels than oofy doofies are to normgroids.
Look at this thread about the average looking guys:
There is a reason why what you called an "average looking" guy is below average looking:
It has nothing to do with superficiality or psychopathy. It's unironically the fact that poor genetics have been allowed to exist through unnatural means for far too long. The multiple industrial revolutions in more recent history and all kinds of technological advancements over thousands of years have supported this and created the problem for everyone in the first place.
For most of human history only around 30-40% of males were able to reproduce, at some times it's even been suggested that 1 in 17 men ever reproduced at all. Things such as enforced monogamy, arranged marriage and advances in decreasing mortality rates among many other things were to push for higher rates of production, but now we are paying the toll for this because we are overpopulated and dysgenic as a species.
View attachment 4729721
Just look at India and China as perfect examples of this. They are old civilizations who experienced amazing stability and favorable circumstances for thousands of years thanks to interfering with the natural course of life. But now they are in an unfavorable position where the overwhelming majority of their population are left with poor genetics and are suffocating under their own weight.
The brutal blackpill is that feminism is actually doing the world a massive favor. Rather than reproducing with subhumans who should not even be alive, they are using natural discretion and selecting the male bloodlines that SHOULD survive. The reality is if you were undesired by women as a teenager in your peak years, you literally should not even be alive. That doesn't make you weak or a bad person, it is just that you were a victim of greedy people that only ever valued you and your more recent ancestors as slaves to produce for the chads on top.
The solution to resolve all of this is not to create more unnecessary suffering by expecting women to settle for "below average" men a.k.a dysgenic men, but to allow nature to balance out and just leave women to reproduce with who they want. If you are one of those men, great. If you are not, it is what it is.
we have absolutely regressed as a species as a result of almost 2 millenia of strict monotheistic sexual monogamy. Every short, ugly, bald freak was guaranteed a breeding sow as long as he completed his daily menial tasks. That is not how its supposed to go. All the diseases that have become endemic in modern societies are the result of a lack of selective pressure on the gene pool. Therefore, what is happening right now is actually just a natural reaction of females to the physical degeneracy of the average human.
Its just nature correcting itself. Now I can understand that subhumans are raging, after all the system still uses their labour to sustain itself without giving them their promised breeding sow. This will indeed be a problem to be adressed but maybe Al and robots could replace 90% of jobs in the future, So that humans can just lean back and enjoy being human.
TL;DR - The average looking dude is 5/10 not 4/10, also what incels call average looking dude is an oofy doofy (from 3/10 to 4/10) not the typical normgroid you see on college campus (5/10). The reason why the common guy is below average in looks is because of poor genetics being allowed to pass on the gene pool through unnatural means for almost 2 millenia, Every short, ugly, bald freak was guaranteed a breeding sow as long as he completed his daily menial tasks.
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What’s a hltn 6’6 guy in SMV
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yup
but I think you went too extreme for height
5'8 and above is still workable. Eg wheat waffles says he's 5'10 but with the amount of girls that are close to his height/heightmog he's probably like 5'8.
And some of the people you picked were significantly better than wheat at least in misc. Wheat has terrible misc
agree with the general premise though. If you have those traits ur gonna be fine
but I think you went too extreme for height
5'8 and above is still workable. Eg wheat waffles says he's 5'10 but with the amount of girls that are close to his height/heightmog he's probably like 5'8.
And some of the people you picked were significantly better than wheat at least in misc. Wheat has terrible misc
agree with the general premise though. If you have those traits ur gonna be fine
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Play this song before reading:Hear My Answer (Tuff Jam Extended Original Mix) - Envelop - i! Records (Side A1)
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Misconceptions about the term "average looking"
so many incels here discuss how the average looking dude had it as bad as the incels themselves when it comes to the dating market in 2026, but what they described as "average looking" is actually "below average" in looks, there are misconceptions about what the see as an average guy, especially in this forum and the looksmaxxing community in general.
View attachment 4729711
Average looking ≠ common
Average looking ≠ the type of person you see everyday on the street
Average looking ≠ the majority of the male population
Average looking ≠ LTN
Average looking = 5/10
Average looking = A person with decent baseline, skull shape and boring but non repulsive facial features
Average looking = MTN
If you have these traits then you are not average looking:
- obese ( if you are fat, you are automatically below average, still fixable tho )
- very long midface
- balding ( unless you have a great craniofacial structure that can adapt to balding, which you might not have even as a MTN, most wojak and soyjak memes are balding LTNs excluding chudjak )
- View attachment 4729718
- ogreish repulsive facial features ( shotgun barrel nose, fish lips )
- below 5'10 ( 5'10 to 5'11 is an ideal height for wearing shoe insoles, 6'0 is a minimum height requirement, 6'4 to 6'6 is a mogger height depends on your location )
- above 6'4 to 6'6 ( if you have a 5/10 face and a 6'4 height, it is an smv boost, making you above average )
The common guy Vs. The average looking guy:
The common guy is indian or han chinese,
View attachment 4729717
but that doesnt mean they are average looking, there is a reason why this forum is full of currycels. ( and even the whites here are just currycels that @Master pays $3 dollars an hour to larp from a mumbai call center )
View attachment 4729715
The average guy actually looks like wheat waffles, no wonder why he had a girlfriend in the first place and is a grifter, people like him are uncommon to see outside of northwestern europe and north america, that doesnt mean he is above average.
View attachment 4729710
When you look at wheat waffles, you can see that he had thin lips, which is a boring but nonrepulsive facial feature, wheat also have a straight nose, which is again a nonrepulsive facial feature,
View attachment 4729709
wheat waffles have these potato facial features and yet he still have a good baseline shape, that itself makes him a true average looking dude. If you are worst looking than wheat waffles, you are below average in terms of looks.
When a foid say "average looking dude" she is not referring to the dude she sees everyday on the street, she is referring to a guy with a decent baseline combined with potato boring facial features.
The most brutal thing is seeing average looking guys especially white ones saying "ooh bro looks don't matter i'm average and pull 10/10s" igga that's not too hard to believe. There was this fine ass YouTuber (I forgot the name) & her boyfriend was shown he wasn't a Henry cavill but he also wasn't peak subhuman so you could see how she would like him & she was the rich one by the way. But sub5 is so rare without betabuxx deluxe.
If you are average looking, you dont suffer that hard in terms of dating, assuming you are white and neurotypical, there is a reason why norm groids are portrayed as MTN white guy and the oofy doofies are portrayed as neckbeard subhuman cumskin football fans.
Norm groids usually succeed with getting their looksmatches just by being white, NT, and average looking, no wonder why they are so bluepilled and low IQ ( they dont have to IQmaxx and be blackpilled because they can cruise through life, similar to these typical white foids who are hypergamous, enjoying their life without compensating and being perma stressed
There is a difference between a normgroid and an oofy doofy:
Normgroid - average looking, MTN, looks like a white gen z teenager with broccoli hair, can be spotted on college campuses, more likely to be a frat member. xample is wheat waffles, clav pre-ascension, asu frat leader (face-wise, not including his dorito physique).
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Oofy doofy - below average looking, LTN, looks like a balding wojak/soyjak redditor,
View attachment 4729714
can be spotted on football stadiums ( football in which you dont have to wear an armour and you just kick the ball, definitely not the NFL ones ) more likely to be a MAGA politics coper.
View attachment 4729708
View attachment 4729720
View attachment 4729722
oofy doofies are much closer to incels than oofy doofies are to normgroids.
Look at this thread about the average looking guys:
There is a reason why what you called an "average looking" guy is below average looking:
It has nothing to do with superficiality or psychopathy. It's unironically the fact that poor genetics have been allowed to exist through unnatural means for far too long. The multiple industrial revolutions in more recent history and all kinds of technological advancements over thousands of years have supported this and created the problem for everyone in the first place.
For most of human history only around 30-40% of males were able to reproduce, at some times it's even been suggested that 1 in 17 men ever reproduced at all. Things such as enforced monogamy, arranged marriage and advances in decreasing mortality rates among many other things were to push for higher rates of production, but now we are paying the toll for this because we are overpopulated and dysgenic as a species.
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Just look at India and China as perfect examples of this. They are old civilizations who experienced amazing stability and favorable circumstances for thousands of years thanks to interfering with the natural course of life. But now they are in an unfavorable position where the overwhelming majority of their population are left with poor genetics and are suffocating under their own weight.
The brutal blackpill is that feminism is actually doing the world a massive favor. Rather than reproducing with subhumans who should not even be alive, they are using natural discretion and selecting the male bloodlines that SHOULD survive. The reality is if you were undesired by women as a teenager in your peak years, you literally should not even be alive. That doesn't make you weak or a bad person, it is just that you were a victim of greedy people that only ever valued you and your more recent ancestors as slaves to produce for the chads on top.
The solution to resolve all of this is not to create more unnecessary suffering by expecting women to settle for "below average" men a.k.a dysgenic men, but to allow nature to balance out and just leave women to reproduce with who they want. If you are one of those men, great. If you are not, it is what it is.
we have absolutely regressed as a species as a result of almost 2 millenia of strict monotheistic sexual monogamy. Every short, ugly, bald freak was guaranteed a breeding sow as long as he completed his daily menial tasks. That is not how its supposed to go. All the diseases that have become endemic in modern societies are the result of a lack of selective pressure on the gene pool. Therefore, what is happening right now is actually just a natural reaction of females to the physical degeneracy of the average human.
Its just nature correcting itself. Now I can understand that subhumans are raging, after all the system still uses their labour to sustain itself without giving them their promised breeding sow. This will indeed be a problem to be adressed but maybe Al and robots could replace 90% of jobs in the future, So that humans can just lean back and enjoy being human.
TL;DR - The average looking dude is 5/10 not 4/10, also what incels call average looking dude is an oofy doofy (from 3/10 to 4/10) not the typical normgroid you see on college campus (5/10). The reason why the common guy is below average in looks is because of poor genetics being allowed to pass on the gene pool through unnatural means for almost 2 millenia, Every short, ugly, bald freak was guaranteed a breeding sow as long as he completed his daily menial tasks.
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so ur saying if im atleast mtn i can actually be wanted and/or chased instead of a foid settling for me and me becoming oofy doofy?
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also could someone rate me and lmk if i have a chance with this newfound statement
https://looksmax.org/threads/is-my-face-rope-worthy.1705655/
https://i.looksmax.org/attachments/2026/01/5780812_v15044gf0000d5kllkvog65vaj271o2g.mp4
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Nah
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what do u think
would u say im average looking
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Yeah probably. I think average in USA is hltn-lmtn.
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Niggas call themselves "blackpilled" and then proceed to say shit like this lol
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Unironically read all
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Also based off the responses alone most people here have never lived in a white majority country
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Misconceptions about the term "average looking"
so many incels here discuss how the average looking dude had it as bad as the incels themselves when it comes to the dating market in 2026, but what they described as "average looking" is actually "below average" in looks, there are misconceptions about what the see as an average guy, especially in this forum and the looksmaxxing community in general.
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Average looking ≠ common
Average looking ≠ the type of person you see everyday on the street
Average looking ≠ the majority of the male population
Average looking ≠ LTN
Average looking = 5/10
Average looking = A person with decent baseline, skull shape and boring but non repulsive facial features
Average looking = MTN
If you have these traits then you are not average looking:
- obese ( if you are fat, you are automatically below average, still fixable tho )
- very long midface
- balding ( unless you have a great craniofacial structure that can adapt to balding, which you might not have even as a MTN, most wojak and soyjak memes are balding LTNs excluding chudjak )
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- ogreish repulsive facial features ( shotgun barrel nose, fish lips )
- below 5'10 ( 5'10 to 5'11 is an ideal height for wearing shoe insoles, 6'0 is a minimum height requirement, 6'4 to 6'6 is a mogger height depends on your location )
- above 6'4 to 6'6 ( if you have a 5/10 face and a 6'4 height, it is an smv boost, making you above average )
The common guy Vs. The average looking guy:
The common guy is indian or han chinese,
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but that doesnt mean they are average looking, there is a reason why this forum is full of currycels. ( and even the whites here are just currycels that @Master pays $3 dollars an hour to larp from a mumbai call center )
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The average guy actually looks like wheat waffles, no wonder why he had a girlfriend in the first place and is a grifter, people like him are uncommon to see outside of northwestern europe and north america, that doesnt mean he is above average.
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When you look at wheat waffles, you can see that he had thin lips, which is a boring but nonrepulsive facial feature, wheat also have a straight nose, which is again a nonrepulsive facial feature,
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wheat waffles have these potato facial features and yet he still have a good baseline shape, that itself makes him a true average looking dude. If you are worst looking than wheat waffles, you are below average in terms of looks.
When a foid say "average looking dude" she is not referring to the dude she sees everyday on the street, she is referring to a guy with a decent baseline combined with potato boring facial features.
The most brutal thing is seeing average looking guys especially white ones saying "ooh bro looks don't matter i'm average and pull 10/10s" igga that's not too hard to believe. There was this fine ass YouTuber (I forgot the name) & her boyfriend was shown he wasn't a Henry cavill but he also wasn't peak subhuman so you could see how she would like him & she was the rich one by the way. But sub5 is so rare without betabuxx deluxe.
If you are average looking, you dont suffer that hard in terms of dating, assuming you are white and neurotypical, there is a reason why norm groids are portrayed as MTN white guy and the oofy doofies are portrayed as neckbeard subhuman cumskin football fans.
Norm groids usually succeed with getting their looksmatches just by being white, NT, and average looking, no wonder why they are so bluepilled and low IQ ( they dont have to IQmaxx and be blackpilled because they can cruise through life, similar to these typical white foids who are hypergamous, enjoying their life without compensating and being perma stressed
There is a difference between a normgroid and an oofy doofy:
Normgroid - average looking, MTN, looks like a white gen z teenager with broccoli hair, can be spotted on college campuses, more likely to be a frat member. xample is wheat waffles, clav pre-ascension, asu frat leader (face-wise, not including his dorito physique).
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Oofy doofy - below average looking, LTN, looks like a balding wojak/soyjak redditor,
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can be spotted on football stadiums ( football in which you dont have to wear an armour and you just kick the ball, definitely not the NFL ones ) more likely to be a MAGA politics coper.
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oofy doofies are much closer to incels than oofy doofies are to normgroids.
Look at this thread about the average looking guys:
There is a reason why what you called an "average looking" guy is below average looking:
It has nothing to do with superficiality or psychopathy. It's unironically the fact that poor genetics have been allowed to exist through unnatural means for far too long. The multiple industrial revolutions in more recent history and all kinds of technological advancements over thousands of years have supported this and created the problem for everyone in the first place.
For most of human history only around 30-40% of males were able to reproduce, at some times it's even been suggested that 1 in 17 men ever reproduced at all. Things such as enforced monogamy, arranged marriage and advances in decreasing mortality rates among many other things were to push for higher rates of production, but now we are paying the toll for this because we are overpopulated and dysgenic as a species.
View attachment 4729721
Just look at India and China as perfect examples of this. They are old civilizations who experienced amazing stability and favorable circumstances for thousands of years thanks to interfering with the natural course of life. But now they are in an unfavorable position where the overwhelming majority of their population are left with poor genetics and are suffocating under their own weight.
The brutal blackpill is that feminism is actually doing the world a massive favor. Rather than reproducing with subhumans who should not even be alive, they are using natural discretion and selecting the male bloodlines that SHOULD survive. The reality is if you were undesired by women as a teenager in your peak years, you literally should not even be alive. That doesn't make you weak or a bad person, it is just that you were a victim of greedy people that only ever valued you and your more recent ancestors as slaves to produce for the chads on top.
The solution to resolve all of this is not to create more unnecessary suffering by expecting women to settle for "below average" men a.k.a dysgenic men, but to allow nature to balance out and just leave women to reproduce with who they want. If you are one of those men, great. If you are not, it is what it is.
we have absolutely regressed as a species as a result of almost 2 millenia of strict monotheistic sexual monogamy. Every short, ugly, bald freak was guaranteed a breeding sow as long as he completed his daily menial tasks. That is not how its supposed to go. All the diseases that have become endemic in modern societies are the result of a lack of selective pressure on the gene pool. Therefore, what is happening right now is actually just a natural reaction of females to the physical degeneracy of the average human.
Its just nature correcting itself. Now I can understand that subhumans are raging, after all the system still uses their labour to sustain itself without giving them their promised breeding sow. This will indeed be a problem to be adressed but maybe Al and robots could replace 90% of jobs in the future, So that humans can just lean back and enjoy being human.
TL;DR - The average looking dude is 5/10 not 4/10, also what incels call average looking dude is an oofy doofy (from 3/10 to 4/10) not the typical normgroid you see on college campus (5/10). The reason why the common guy is below average in looks is because of poor genetics being allowed to pass on the gene pool through unnatural means for almost 2 millenia, Every short, ugly, bald freak was guaranteed a breeding sow as long as he completed his daily menial tasks.
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I don't disagree with you. NT is a huge part of it after all
But those normoids white guys you showed are not average looking.
They are all above avg. This forum is just really harsh with ratings. And the last guy in the car is easily top10%.
Yes WW is avg looking. He's not in the same category as either of those guys.
Also the ASU frat leader facially is still above avg looking like 80th percentile. I agree this is still average range as looks scale is exponential but it's not the same as WW looks level at all.
Also clav pre ascension was always good looking lol. He was always top 5%, just not when in puberty with acne and short hair.
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they want to date chad but they know from experience that chad won’t commit to them
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Looks like someone heard about spiteful mutants but didn't actually read the book...There is a reason why what you called an "average looking" guy is below average looking:
It has nothing to do with superficiality or psychopathy. It's unironically the fact that poor genetics have been allowed to exist through unnatural means for far too long. The multiple industrial revolutions in more recent history and all kinds of technological advancements over thousands of years have supported this and created the problem for everyone in the first place.
For most of human history only around 30-40% of males were able to reproduce, at some times it's even been suggested that 1 in 17 men ever reproduced at all. Things such as enforced monogamy, arranged marriage and advances in decreasing mortality rates among many other things were to push for higher rates of production, but now we are paying the toll for this because we are overpopulated and dysgenic as a species.
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TL;DR - The average looking dude is 5/10 not 4/10, also what incels call average looking dude is an oofy doofy (from 3/10 to 4/10) not the typical normgroid you see on college campus (5/10). The reason why the common guy is below average in looks is because of poor genetics being allowed to pass on the gene pool through unnatural means for almost 2 millenia, Every short, ugly, bald freak was guaranteed a breeding sow as long as he completed his daily menial tasks.
If any short bald freaks DID reproduce in the past, that would mean they had some good fitness genes despite their fucked up appearance, or else they were likely to die before the age of 5. outside of inbreeding ass royal families, only kids which ended up on the right side of recombination made it past the age of 5, so dysgenic bloodlines were likely to die out fast. You know most org users would have died before the age of 5 if my
darwin was still running the showHypergamy is not a good replacement for natural selection because low sentience is currently the main thing being selected for when no chads or richies are available
And people selecting for low sentience are more likely to carry the baby to term as well
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Play this song before reading:Hear My Answer (Tuff Jam Extended Original Mix) - Envelop - i! Records (Side A1)
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Misconceptions about the term "average looking"
so many incels here discuss how the average looking dude had it as bad as the incels themselves when it comes to the dating market in 2026, but what they described as "average looking" is actually "below average" in looks, there are misconceptions about what the see as an average guy, especially in this forum and the looksmaxxing community in general.
View attachment 4729711
Average looking ≠ common
Average looking ≠ the type of person you see everyday on the street
Average looking ≠ the majority of the male population
Average looking ≠ LTN
Average looking = 5/10
Average looking = A person with decent baseline, skull shape and boring but non repulsive facial features
Average looking = MTN
If you have these traits then you are not average looking:
- obese ( if you are fat, you are automatically below average, still fixable tho )
- very long midface
- balding ( unless you have a great craniofacial structure that can adapt to balding, which you might not have even as a MTN, most wojak and soyjak memes are balding LTNs excluding chudjak )
- View attachment 4729718
- ogreish repulsive facial features ( shotgun barrel nose, fish lips )
- below 5'10 ( 5'10 to 5'11 is an ideal height for wearing shoe insoles, 6'0 is a minimum height requirement, 6'4 to 6'6 is a mogger height depends on your location )
- above 6'4 to 6'6 ( if you have a 5/10 face and a 6'4 height, it is an smv boost, making you above average )
The common guy Vs. The average looking guy:
The common guy is indian or han chinese,
View attachment 4729717
but that doesnt mean they are average looking, there is a reason why this forum is full of currycels. ( and even the whites here are just currycels that @Master pays $3 dollars an hour to larp from a mumbai call center )
View attachment 4729715
The average guy actually looks like wheat waffles, no wonder why he had a girlfriend in the first place and is a grifter, people like him are uncommon to see outside of northwestern europe and north america, that doesnt mean he is above average.
View attachment 4729710
When you look at wheat waffles, you can see that he had thin lips, which is a boring but nonrepulsive facial feature, wheat also have a straight nose, which is again a nonrepulsive facial feature,
View attachment 4729709
wheat waffles have these potato facial features and yet he still have a good baseline shape, that itself makes him a true average looking dude. If you are worst looking than wheat waffles, you are below average in terms of looks.
When a foid say "average looking dude" she is not referring to the dude she sees everyday on the street, she is referring to a guy with a decent baseline combined with potato boring facial features.
The most brutal thing is seeing average looking guys especially white ones saying "ooh bro looks don't matter i'm average and pull 10/10s" igga that's not too hard to believe. There was this fine ass YouTuber (I forgot the name) & her boyfriend was shown he wasn't a Henry cavill but he also wasn't peak subhuman so you could see how she would like him & she was the rich one by the way. But sub5 is so rare without betabuxx deluxe.
If you are average looking, you dont suffer that hard in terms of dating, assuming you are white and neurotypical, there is a reason why norm groids are portrayed as MTN white guy and the oofy doofies are portrayed as neckbeard subhuman cumskin football fans.
Norm groids usually succeed with getting their looksmatches just by being white, NT, and average looking, no wonder why they are so bluepilled and low IQ ( they dont have to IQmaxx and be blackpilled because they can cruise through life, similar to these typical white foids who are hypergamous, enjoying their life without compensating and being perma stressed
There is a difference between a normgroid and an oofy doofy:
Normgroid - average looking, MTN, looks like a white gen z teenager with broccoli hair, can be spotted on college campuses, more likely to be a frat member. xample is wheat waffles, clav pre-ascension, asu frat leader (face-wise, not including his dorito physique).
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Oofy doofy - below average looking, LTN, looks like a balding wojak/soyjak redditor,
View attachment 4729714
can be spotted on football stadiums ( football in which you dont have to wear an armour and you just kick the ball, definitely not the NFL ones ) more likely to be a MAGA politics coper.
View attachment 4729708
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oofy doofies are much closer to incels than oofy doofies are to normgroids.
Look at this thread about the average looking guys:
There is a reason why what you called an "average looking" guy is below average looking:
It has nothing to do with superficiality or psychopathy. It's unironically the fact that poor genetics have been allowed to exist through unnatural means for far too long. The multiple industrial revolutions in more recent history and all kinds of technological advancements over thousands of years have supported this and created the problem for everyone in the first place.
For most of human history only around 30-40% of males were able to reproduce, at some times it's even been suggested that 1 in 17 men ever reproduced at all. Things such as enforced monogamy, arranged marriage and advances in decreasing mortality rates among many other things were to push for higher rates of production, but now we are paying the toll for this because we are overpopulated and dysgenic as a species.
View attachment 4729721
Just look at India and China as perfect examples of this. They are old civilizations who experienced amazing stability and favorable circumstances for thousands of years thanks to interfering with the natural course of life. But now they are in an unfavorable position where the overwhelming majority of their population are left with poor genetics and are suffocating under their own weight.
The brutal blackpill is that feminism is actually doing the world a massive favor. Rather than reproducing with subhumans who should not even be alive, they are using natural discretion and selecting the male bloodlines that SHOULD survive. The reality is if you were undesired by women as a teenager in your peak years, you literally should not even be alive. That doesn't make you weak or a bad person, it is just that you were a victim of greedy people that only ever valued you and your more recent ancestors as slaves to produce for the chads on top.
The solution to resolve all of this is not to create more unnecessary suffering by expecting women to settle for "below average" men a.k.a dysgenic men, but to allow nature to balance out and just leave women to reproduce with who they want. If you are one of those men, great. If you are not, it is what it is.
we have absolutely regressed as a species as a result of almost 2 millenia of strict monotheistic sexual monogamy. Every short, ugly, bald freak was guaranteed a breeding sow as long as he completed his daily menial tasks. That is not how its supposed to go. All the diseases that have become endemic in modern societies are the result of a lack of selective pressure on the gene pool. Therefore, what is happening right now is actually just a natural reaction of females to the physical degeneracy of the average human.
Its just nature correcting itself. Now I can understand that subhumans are raging, after all the system still uses their labour to sustain itself without giving them their promised breeding sow. This will indeed be a problem to be adressed but maybe Al and robots could replace 90% of jobs in the future, So that humans can just lean back and enjoy being human.
TL;DR - The average looking dude is 5/10 not 4/10, also what incels call average looking dude is an oofy doofy (from 3/10 to 4/10) not the typical normgroid you see on college campus (5/10). The reason why the common guy is below average in looks is because of poor genetics being allowed to pass on the gene pool through unnatural means for almost 2 millenia, Every short, ugly, bald freak was guaranteed a breeding sow as long as he completed his daily menial tasks.
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What if you’re average looking and 6’6 height and white why could you be seen as /10 by most foids? Also hltn-lmtn I’m talking abt face
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If forum is very harsh is getting hltn-lmtn decent here?
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Misconceptions about the term "average looking"
so many incels here discuss how the average looking dude had it as bad as the incels themselves when it comes to the dating market in 2026, but what they described as "average looking" is actually "below average" in looks, there are misconceptions about what the see as an average guy, especially in this forum and the looksmaxxing community in general.
View attachment 4729711
Average looking ≠ common
Average looking ≠ the type of person you see everyday on the street
Average looking ≠ the majority of the male population
Average looking ≠ LTN
Average looking = 5/10
Average looking = A person with decent baseline, skull shape and boring but non repulsive facial features
Average looking = MTN
If you have these traits then you are not average looking:
- obese ( if you are fat, you are automatically below average, still fixable tho )
- very long midface
- balding ( unless you have a great craniofacial structure that can adapt to balding, which you might not have even as a MTN, most wojak and soyjak memes are balding LTNs excluding chudjak )
- View attachment 4729718
- ogreish repulsive facial features ( shotgun barrel nose, fish lips )
- below 5'10 ( 5'10 to 5'11 is an ideal height for wearing shoe insoles, 6'0 is a minimum height requirement, 6'4 to 6'6 is a mogger height depends on your location )
- above 6'4 to 6'6 ( if you have a 5/10 face and a 6'4 height, it is an smv boost, making you above average )
The common guy Vs. The average looking guy:
The common guy is indian or han chinese,
View attachment 4729717
but that doesnt mean they are average looking, there is a reason why this forum is full of currycels. ( and even the whites here are just currycels that @Master pays $3 dollars an hour to larp from a mumbai call center )
View attachment 4729715
The average guy actually looks like wheat waffles, no wonder why he had a girlfriend in the first place and is a grifter, people like him are uncommon to see outside of northwestern europe and north america, that doesnt mean he is above average.
View attachment 4729710
When you look at wheat waffles, you can see that he had thin lips, which is a boring but nonrepulsive facial feature, wheat also have a straight nose, which is again a nonrepulsive facial feature,
View attachment 4729709
wheat waffles have these potato facial features and yet he still have a good baseline shape, that itself makes him a true average looking dude. If you are worst looking than wheat waffles, you are below average in terms of looks.
When a foid say "average looking dude" she is not referring to the dude she sees everyday on the street, she is referring to a guy with a decent baseline combined with potato boring facial features.
The most brutal thing is seeing average looking guys especially white ones saying "ooh bro looks don't matter i'm average and pull 10/10s" igga that's not too hard to believe. There was this fine ass YouTuber (I forgot the name) & her boyfriend was shown he wasn't a Henry cavill but he also wasn't peak subhuman so you could see how she would like him & she was the rich one by the way. But sub5 is so rare without betabuxx deluxe.
If you are average looking, you dont suffer that hard in terms of dating, assuming you are white and neurotypical, there is a reason why norm groids are portrayed as MTN white guy and the oofy doofies are portrayed as neckbeard subhuman cumskin football fans.
Norm groids usually succeed with getting their looksmatches just by being white, NT, and average looking, no wonder why they are so bluepilled and low IQ ( they dont have to IQmaxx and be blackpilled because they can cruise through life, similar to these typical white foids who are hypergamous, enjoying their life without compensating and being perma stressed
There is a difference between a normgroid and an oofy doofy:
Normgroid - average looking, MTN, looks like a white gen z teenager with broccoli hair, can be spotted on college campuses, more likely to be a frat member. xample is wheat waffles, clav pre-ascension, asu frat leader (face-wise, not including his dorito physique).
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Oofy doofy - below average looking, LTN, looks like a balding wojak/soyjak redditor,
View attachment 4729714
can be spotted on football stadiums ( football in which you dont have to wear an armour and you just kick the ball, definitely not the NFL ones ) more likely to be a MAGA politics coper.
View attachment 4729708
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oofy doofies are much closer to incels than oofy doofies are to normgroids.
Look at this thread about the average looking guys:
There is a reason why what you called an "average looking" guy is below average looking:
It has nothing to do with superficiality or psychopathy. It's unironically the fact that poor genetics have been allowed to exist through unnatural means for far too long. The multiple industrial revolutions in more recent history and all kinds of technological advancements over thousands of years have supported this and created the problem for everyone in the first place.
For most of human history only around 30-40% of males were able to reproduce, at some times it's even been suggested that 1 in 17 men ever reproduced at all. Things such as enforced monogamy, arranged marriage and advances in decreasing mortality rates among many other things were to push for higher rates of production, but now we are paying the toll for this because we are overpopulated and dysgenic as a species.
View attachment 4729721
Just look at India and China as perfect examples of this. They are old civilizations who experienced amazing stability and favorable circumstances for thousands of years thanks to interfering with the natural course of life. But now they are in an unfavorable position where the overwhelming majority of their population are left with poor genetics and are suffocating under their own weight.
The brutal blackpill is that feminism is actually doing the world a massive favor. Rather than reproducing with subhumans who should not even be alive, they are using natural discretion and selecting the male bloodlines that SHOULD survive. The reality is if you were undesired by women as a teenager in your peak years, you literally should not even be alive. That doesn't make you weak or a bad person, it is just that you were a victim of greedy people that only ever valued you and your more recent ancestors as slaves to produce for the chads on top.
The solution to resolve all of this is not to create more unnecessary suffering by expecting women to settle for "below average" men a.k.a dysgenic men, but to allow nature to balance out and just leave women to reproduce with who they want. If you are one of those men, great. If you are not, it is what it is.
we have absolutely regressed as a species as a result of almost 2 millenia of strict monotheistic sexual monogamy. Every short, ugly, bald freak was guaranteed a breeding sow as long as he completed his daily menial tasks. That is not how its supposed to go. All the diseases that have become endemic in modern societies are the result of a lack of selective pressure on the gene pool. Therefore, what is happening right now is actually just a natural reaction of females to the physical degeneracy of the average human.
Its just nature correcting itself. Now I can understand that subhumans are raging, after all the system still uses their labour to sustain itself without giving them their promised breeding sow. This will indeed be a problem to be adressed but maybe Al and robots could replace 90% of jobs in the future, So that humans can just lean back and enjoy being human.
TL;DR - The average looking dude is 5/10 not 4/10, also what incels call average looking dude is an oofy doofy (from 3/10 to 4/10) not the typical normgroid you see on college campus (5/10). The reason why the common guy is below average in looks is because of poor genetics being allowed to pass on the gene pool through unnatural means for almost 2 millenia, Every short, ugly, bald freak was guaranteed a breeding sow as long as he completed his daily menial tasks.
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below average men weren't "allowed" to exist it was a necessity, without below average men having access to mates the entire system fails, why do you think there were wars? without a purpose below average men destroy the world that has been unfair to them since birth. a society cannot continue to exist without absolute monogamy if we were to get rid of all below average men htns become the bellow average of tomorrow, men are not attractive in a vacuum they need to be better then other men, without sub 3s all men will then be compared against the next lowest
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