Foids are pretty chill tbh

[Matheus]

Obviously they're herd creatures, usually unoriginal, and most likely won't be your best intellectual partner but their company is nice if you know how to act properly. + makes you feel high T
For all their flaws I find myself hardly able to dislike them

 

[Warlord]

Wrong forum bro

 

[Deleted member 8461]

did you just hang out with a girl for the first time you fucking reddit nerd

 

[Matheus]

did you just hang out with a girl for the first time you fucking reddit nerd

U mad bro?

 

[chadison]

Obviously they're herd creatures, usually unoriginal, and most likely won't be your best intellectual partner but their company is nice if you know how to act properly. + makes you feel high T
For all their flaws I find myself hardly able to dislike them

Until a chad walks in and suddenly they don't remember who you are.

 

[Britmaxxer]

Until a chad walks in and suddenly they don't remember who you are.

this.

they seem nice until chad enters the picture, then they would destroy you at his command.women are evil creatures to be kept covered for a reason.

 

[Deleted member 7313]

Why would u actually say something like this, you are blackpilled, you know foids are big fraud and in actuality disgusting big ego animals.. do u actually believe they are worthy of being considered human?? they are just tools for sex and traditional duties, nothing else...I would never be genuine friends with a foid because theyre like annoying animals. Not like dogs and cats, but like racoons or rats... how can u be friends with a rat?

 

[chadison]

this.

they seem nice until chad enters the picture, then they would destroy you at his command.women are evil creatures to be kept covered for a reason.

Disagree. They're just slaves to their biological imperative. Why does this form exist? Because high IQ men who realize looks are very important want to improve their looks to attract women. Hate the game, not the player. Women simply do not know any better, most of them at least. It's frustrating, I get it. I feel the same way. But we must remember that they are driven by things out of their conscious control and realization. Nature does not bat an eye.

 

[Matheus]

Until a chad walks in and suddenly they don't remember who you are.

Yeah you’re right but you can’t judge foids on male standards. Enjoy the moment and that’s it

 

[Deleted member 6475]

I also like being around them despite their potential to be very vile and hostile.

 

[johncruz12345]

What are u saying bro. They are annoying af.

 

[Deleted member 7313]

Disagree. They're just slaves to their biological imperative. Why does this form exist? Because high IQ men who realize looks are very important want to improve their looks to attract women. Hate the game, not the player. Women simply do not know any better, most of them at least. It's frustrating, I get it. I feel the same way. But we must remember that they are driven by things out of their conscious control and realization. Nature does not bat an eye.

This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the relationship between biology and morality... just because it's in their biology to act a certain way does not mean that their actions aren't immoral and vile. If the ebola virus exists to harm people and damage people's bodies and health, would you say that it's not evil because it's simply "acting on how it should act?" Even though this is the natural function of the virus, it does not make the virus unevil or not immoral to say the least. It's primary function and its raw nature is based on animosity and cruelty, and through transitive property you can acquaint this virus with an evil nature. If you argue that this isn't the case with women, than you're doing special pleading, because your claim is that they aren't evil because they're just acting on biology which I fundamentally disagree with... in any case, humans also have free will and the ability to make choices for themselves. Sure we are partly limited by our biological and environmental nature, and if you're arguing based on hard determinism I completely reject that and so does the majority of science and logic, and I can give you sources for that... In humans there is the innate ability for us to take our own independent action depending on how we deem fit and the fact that the vast majority of women do not seem to do so and stick to their nature of treating men horribly is why I believe them to be evil, and why I would choose not to bother with them or acquaint with them.

 

[Deleted member 11292]

Until a chad walks in and suddenly they don't remember who you are.

thanks for reminding me, I almost felt like jestermaxing for a sec

 

[chadison]

This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the relationship between biology and morality... just because it's in their biology to act a certain way does not mean that their actions aren't immoral and vile. If the ebola virus exists to harm people and damage people's bodies and health, would you say that it's not evil because it's simply "acting on how it should act?" Even though this is the natural function of the virus, it does not make the virus unevil or not immoral to say the least. It's primary function and its raw nature is based on animosity and cruelty, and through transitive property you can acquaint this virus with an evil nature. If you argue that this isn't the case with women, than you're doing special pleading, because your claim is that they aren't evil because they're just acting on biology which I fundamentally disagree with... in any case, humans also have free will and the ability to make choices for themselves. Sure we are partly limited by our biological and environmental nature, and if you're arguing based on hard determinism I completely reject that and so does the majority of science and logic, and I can give you sources for that... In humans there is the innate ability for us to take our own independent action depending on how we deem fit and the fact that the vast majority of women do not seem to do so and stick to their nature of treating men horribly is why I believe them to be evil, and why I would choose not to bother with them or acquaint with them.

This is actually a very solid post, and a good argument. This is why I am on this forum, to have debates like this. Also, this will be my 500th post and I am finally not a greycel anymore. So I will put some effort into it. Here's my response:

It appears to me your counter argument is that humans have enough free will and conscientiousness to recognize their biological imperatives and respond accordingly, accordingly defined as a way that is most morally permissible according to societal standards. I would assume this means to you acting in a way that is kind towards all people, as well as maintaining general dignity, ie not fucking around. However, I would like to argue that most women, and men, Fail to have enough conscientiousness to recognize the biological imperative driving them. Therefore, the free will is innately compromised and this prevents them from retaining full responsibility for their actions. Free will to me is a sliding scale, dependent on many factors such as coercion, genetics, intelligence, and your own philosophical beliefs. If we assume free will to not be completely constant, as there are so many factors at play, then to some degree we must recognize that individuals are acting according to how nature designed them. While I agree with you that some responsibility must be taken, I try to avoid being angry at people as I recognize that many are naive. I also recognize that each person has some free will, and some may choose to do "bad things" as I see them with that will.

 

[Matheus]

This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the relationship between biology and morality... just because it's in their biology to act a certain way does not mean that their actions aren't immoral and vile. If the ebola virus exists to harm people and damage people's bodies and health, would you say that it's not evil because it's simply "acting on how it should act?" Even though this is the natural function of the virus, it does not make the virus unevil or not immoral to say the least. It's primary function and its raw nature is based on animosity and cruelty, and through transitive property you can acquaint this virus with an evil nature. If you argue that this isn't the case with women, than you're doing special pleading, because your claim is that they aren't evil because they're just acting on biology which I fundamentally disagree with... in any case, humans also have free will and the ability to make choices for themselves. Sure we are partly limited by our biological and environmental nature, and if you're arguing based on hard determinism I completely reject that and so does the majority of science and logic, and I can give you sources for that... In humans there is the innate ability for us to take our own independent action depending on how we deem fit and the fact that the vast majority of women do not seem to do so and stick to their nature of treating men horribly is why I believe them to be evil, and why I would choose not to bother with them or acquaint with them.

The Ebola virus is harmful, not evil, because it is not sentient. You actually provided an excellent comparison for the point I'm making.
The Ebola virus is not evil yet we still try to stop it because it's harmful.
Same thing with foids' behaviour, it's harmful to society (and to individuals, but men can be harmful individuals too) so we should try to stop it. We're failing thus far.
Foids' behaviour is not excusable because they have free will, yet I don't think their actions should be considered purely evil because men as a collective have a role for containing the harmful elements of women.
Think of it this way if scientists failed to contain ebola and it spread whole over the western world. Would you blame the virus? Or would blame incompetent scientists?
I blame (((the tribe of light))) and other subversive elements, as well as simps.

 

[Lev Peshkov]

If they're riding ur dick then ye sure

Otherwise they are the cause of all ur suffering and ur a cuck

 

[chadison]

The Ebola virus is harmful, not evil, because it is not sentient. You actually provided an excellent comparison for the point I'm making.
The Ebola virus is not evil yet we still try to stop it because it's harmful.
Same thing with foids' behaviour, it's harmful to society (and to individuals, but men can be harmful individuals too) so we should try to stop it. We're failing thus far.
Foids' behaviour is not excusable because they have free will, yet I don't think their actions should be considered purely evil because men as a collective have a role for containing the harmful elements of women.
Think of it this way if scientists failed to contain ebola and it spread whole over the western world. Would you blame the virus? Or would blame incompetent scientists?
I blame (((the tribe of light))) and other subversive elements, as well as simps.

The only thing I would add to this: we should be careful in how we restrict foids rights/will if we choose to do so. I am not an advocate for eliminating women's rights like many on here are. I believe they should have the same rights as men. However, I believe society should recognize that modern feminism is destroying our culture and that changes must be made regarding morally permissible behavior and what should be and not be acceptable. I think we can find a solution that does not compromise rights and improve moral standards, thereby optimizing the future.

 

[Deleted member 7313]

This is actually a very solid post, and a good argument. This is why I am on this forum, to have debates like this. Also, this will be my 500th post and I am finally not a greycel anymore. So I will put some effort into it. Here's my response:

It appears to me your counter argument is that humans have enough free will and conscientiousness to recognize their biological imperatives and respond accordingly, accordingly defined as a way that is most morally permissible according to societal standards. I would assume this means to you acting in a way that is kind towards all people, as well as maintaining general dignity, ie not fucking around. However, I would like to argue that most women, and men, Fail to have enough conscientiousness to recognize the biological imperative driving them. Therefore, the free will is innately compromised and this prevents them from retaining full responsibility for their actions. Free will to me is a sliding scale, dependent on many factors such as coercion, genetics, intelligence, and your own philosophical beliefs. If we assume free will to not be completely constant, as there are so many factors that play, and then to some degree we must recognize that individuals are acting according to how nature designed them. While I agree with you that some responsibility must be taken, I try to avoid being angry at people as I recognize that many are naive. I also recognize that each person has some free will, and some may choose to do "bad things" as I see them with that will.

Yeah exactly, the existence of free will is what makes the influence of biology in humans justified in being called evil, immoral or vile, and that's how I view every woman that I've met with, or even that exist, simply because I have no proof that they're any different from the ones I've met. I agree with you that factors like coercion and other realities exist to challenge free will and make not all of our decisions free, and it seems to me you align more with soft determinist views rather than hard determinist, so that means you do agree with the existence of free will you just believe it's limited by these other concepts. So I do respect that and I understand what you mean, the point I just believe is that this is enough to call them evil. As I said in this post earlier, basically every woman I've met with has used their free will in ways to make other men feel bad, obviously a few exceptions but those were either lesbians or just complete anomalies, but in the end I believe this is enough for me to call them as creatures evil, and to prefer to view them as slaves solely for sex and chore duties. I concede that some of this stuff is just pure misogynistic and isn't logically defended, but I have no evidence to change my mindset on this and I feel it's better for me to accept it rather than cope and try to find more exceptions.

The Ebola virus is harmful, not evil, because it is not sentient. You actually provided an excellent comparison for the point I'm making.
The Ebola virus is not evil yet we still try to stop it because it's harmful.
Same thing with foids' behaviour, it's harmful to society (and to individuals, but men can be harmful individuals too) so we should try to stop it. We're failing thus far.
Foids' behaviour is not excusable because they have free will, yet I don't think their actions should be considered purely evil because men as a collective have a role for containing the harmful elements of women.
Think of it this way if scientists failed to contain ebola and it spread whole over the western world. Would you blame the virus? Or would blame incompetent scientists?
I blame (((the tribe of light))) and other subversive elements, as well as simps.

Yeah that's why I mentioned the nature of free will in women in comparison to the virus. The point is that the biology of X alone does not make it unable to be called harmful, vile, or evil. I believe a more closer comparison to foids would be rats or mosquitos, simply annoying animals that have some purpose in the grand scheme of things, but you wouldn't care to have around you. True you can blame men for some of the problems we see today in women, but that moves on to why I also hate simps and cucks who pay for only fans, watch porn all day, and try their best to look cool around women. Even men that insult other men for being virgins are placing themselves in this same category of women idolizers and I view them as much of humans as I view women in general.

 

[Deleted member 10185]

this.

they seem nice until chad enters the picture, then they would destroy you at his command.women are evil creatures to be kept covered for a reason.

I dont fucking get this. Are every women Free? Like do you guys get that there are a lot of people that are dating. Those arent going to chase the Chad if they seem him.

 

[Deleted member 4209]

Until a chad walks in and suddenly they don't remember who you are.

bro... i cant take this blackpill

 

[Deleted member 6380]

Until a chad walks in and suddenly they don't remember who you are.

 

[chadison]

Yeah exactly, the existence of free will is what makes the influence of biology in humans justified in being called evil, immoral or vile, and that's how I view every woman that I've met with, or even that exist, simply because I have no proof that they're any different from the ones I've met. I agree with you that factors like coercion and other realities exist to challenge free will and make not all of our decisions free, and it seems to me you align more with soft determinist views rather than hard determinist, so that means you do agree with the existence of free will you just believe it's limited by these other concepts. So I do respect that and I understand what you mean, the point I just believe is that this is enough to call them evil. As I said in this post earlier, basically every woman I've met with has used their free will in ways to make other men feel bad, obviously a few exceptions but those were either lesbians or just complete anomalies, but in the end I believe this is enough for me to call them as creatures evil, and to prefer to view them as slaves solely for sex and chore duties. I concede that some of this stuff is just pure misogynistic and isn't logically defended, but I have no evidence to change my mindset on this and I feel it's better for me to accept it rather than cope and try to find more exceptions.


Yeah that's why I mentioned the nature of free will in women in comparison to the virus. The point is that the biology of X alone does not make it unable to be called harmful, vile, or evil. I believe a more closer comparison to foids would be rats or mosquitos, simply annoying animals that have some purpose in the grand scheme of things, but you wouldn't care to have around you. True you can blame men for some of the problems we see today in women, but that moves on to why I also hate simps and cucks who pay for only fans, watch porn all day, and try their best to look cool around women. Even men that insult other men for being virgins are placing themselves in this same category of women idolizers and I view them as much of humans as I view women in general.

Yes, my beliefs would most align with a soft determinist. I guess this is an appropriate classification.

I would like to challenge the concept that women are evil. I believe the gap between genders and our society at the present time has never been wider. Males and females are very isolated from each other, and don't understand each other well. As a result, it is easy to villainize the other gender, just like it is easy to villainize the opposite party in the United States political system. Women are humans just as men, what separates us is a few small tweaks in the genome that determines the level of testosterone in the womb, which changes only a few structures in the brain. Calling women evil is a moral classification: I'm not sure of your religious beliefs, but to me evil is simply a path of living. You can either live as an entity and service of others, or in service of self. Evil is an abstract concept based upon the definer/perceiver and the one that commits the act. What you may see is evil, I try to view as an array of actions created out of naivete and an attempt at spiritual development. Women view men as evil in most cases very similar to how you view women evil, because of a lack of understanding of them, as well as frustration about their actions. If one was truly outcome independent, they would not care. They would only judge based on the intent of the person, which would not allow categorization of all women as evil.

 

[Deleted member 10185]

This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the relationship between biology and morality... just because it's in their biology to act a certain way does not mean that their actions aren't immoral and vile. If the ebola virus exists to harm people and damage people's bodies and health, would you say that it's not evil because it's simply "acting on how it should act?" Even though this is the natural function of the virus, it does not make the virus unevil or not immoral to say the least. It's primary function and its raw nature is based on animosity and cruelty, and through transitive property you can acquaint this virus with an evil nature. If you argue that this isn't the case with women, than you're doing special pleading, because your claim is that they aren't evil because they're just acting on biology which I fundamentally disagree with... in any case, humans also have free will and the ability to make choices for themselves. Sure we are partly limited by our biological and environmental nature, and if you're arguing based on hard determinism I completely reject that and so does the majority of science and logic, and I can give you sources for that... In humans there is the innate ability for us to take our own independent action depending on how we deem fit and the fact that the vast majority of women do not seem to do so and stick to their nature of treating men horribly is why I believe them to be evil, and why I would choose not to bother with them or acquaint with them.

Biology and nature is cope. They arent much different from men. Only stupid idiotic uneducated people treat other people like shit. And those people are usually product of environment and society.

 

[Growth Plate]

thanks to the blackpill I never take foids seriously and view them as nothing more than a cum dumpster

 

[chadison]

Yeah exactly, the existence of free will is what makes the influence of biology in humans justified in being called evil, immoral or vile, and that's how I view every woman that I've met with, or even that exist, simply because I have no proof that they're any different from the ones I've met. I agree with you that factors like coercion and other realities exist to challenge free will and make not all of our decisions free, and it seems to me you align more with soft determinist views rather than hard determinist, so that means you do agree with the existence of free will you just believe it's limited by these other concepts. So I do respect that and I understand what you mean, the point I just believe is that this is enough to call them evil. As I said in this post earlier, basically every woman I've met with has used their free will in ways to make other men feel bad, obviously a few exceptions but those were either lesbians or just complete anomalies, but in the end I believe this is enough for me to call them as creatures evil, and to prefer to view them as slaves solely for sex and chore duties. I concede that some of this stuff is just pure misogynistic and isn't logically defended, but I have no evidence to change my mindset on this and I feel it's better for me to accept it rather than cope and try to find more exceptions.


Yeah that's why I mentioned the nature of free will in women in comparison to the virus. The point is that the biology of X alone does not make it unable to be called harmful, vile, or evil. I believe a more closer comparison to foids would be rats or mosquitos, simply annoying animals that have some purpose in the grand scheme of things, but you wouldn't care to have around you. True you can blame men for some of the problems we see today in women, but that moves on to why I also hate simps and cucks who pay for only fans, watch porn all day, and try their best to look cool around women. Even men that insult other men for being virgins are placing themselves in this same category of women idolizers and I view them as much of humans as I view women in general.

Also great convo, I appreciate it. I can tell you're high IQ like me. I'm gonna go workout now.

 

[Matheus]

The only thing I would add to this: we should be careful in how we restrict foids rights/will if we choose to do so. I am not an advocate for eliminating women's rights like many on here are. I believe they should have the same rights as men. However, I believe society should recognize that modern feminism is destroying our culture and that changes must be made regarding morally permissible behavior and what should be and not be acceptable. I think we can find a solution that does not compromise rights and improve moral standards, thereby optimizing the future.

I think that equal rights are an impossibility but idk if I can bother to debate

Yeah exactly, the existence of free will is what makes the influence of biology in humans justified in being called evil, immoral or vile, and that's how I view every woman that I've met with, or even that exist, simply because I have no proof that they're any different from the ones I've met. I agree with you that factors like coercion and other realities exist to challenge free will and make not all of our decisions free, and it seems to me you align more with soft determinist views rather than hard determinist, so that means you do agree with the existence of free will you just believe it's limited by these other concepts. So I do respect that and I understand what you mean, the point I just believe is that this is enough to call them evil. As I said in this post earlier, basically every woman I've met with has used their free will in ways to make other men feel bad, obviously a few exceptions but those were either lesbians or just complete anomalies, but in the end I believe this is enough for me to call them as creatures evil, and to prefer to view them as slaves solely for sex and chore duties. I concede that some of this stuff is just pure misogynistic and isn't logically defended, but I have no evidence to change my mindset on this and I feel it's better for me to accept it rather than cope and try to find more exceptions.


Yeah that's why I mentioned the nature of free will in women in comparison to the virus. The point is that the biology of X alone does not make it unable to be called harmful, vile, or evil. I believe a more closer comparison to foids would be rats or mosquitos, simply annoying animals that have some purpose in the grand scheme of things, but you wouldn't care to have around you. True you can blame men for some of the problems we see today in women, but that moves on to why I also hate simps and cucks who pay for only fans, watch porn all day, and try their best to look cool around women. Even men that insult other men for being virgins are placing themselves in this same category of women idolizers and I view them as much of humans as I view women in general.

yeah but same thing mosquitoes, ebola and whatnot aren't evil, they're annoying and / or harmful

Yes, my beliefs would most align with a soft determinist. I guess this is an appropriate classification.

I would like to challenge the concept that women are evil. I believe the gap between genders and our society at the present time has never been wider. Males and females are very isolated from each other, and don't understand each other well. As a result, it is easy to villainize the other gender, just like it is easy to villainize the opposite party in the United States political system. Women are humans just as men, what separates us is a few small tweaks in the genome that determines the level of testosterone in the womb, which changes only a few structures in the brain. Calling women evil is a moral classification: I'm not sure of your religious beliefs, but to me evil is simply a path of living. You can either live as an entity and service of others, or in service of self. Evil is an abstract concept based upon the definer/perceiver and the one that commits the act. What you may see is evil, I try to view as an array of actions created out of naivete and an attempt at spiritual development. Women view men as evil in most cases very similar to how you view women evil, because of a lack of understanding of them, as well as frustration about their actions. If one was truly outcome independent, they would not care. They would only judge based on the intent of the person, which would not allow categorization of all women as evil.

High IQ

 

[Be_ConfidentBro]

I see that you went out with foids for the first time OP. Congratulations but if you ever get close enough to some of them and learn their true nature, you will hate them more than any blackpill forum can convince you to.

 

[Matheus]

I see that you went out with foids for the first time OP. Congratulations but if you ever get close enough to some of them and learn their true nature, you will hate them more than any blackpill forum can convince you to.

JFL you seriously need to cope with that shit?

 

[Be_ConfidentBro]

JFL you seriously need to cope with that shit?

I am not coping, I've went out with countless of women and have gotten relatively close to a number of them. I know what they're like and I despise them for it. I won't stop going out or interacting with foids, but I will do everything in my power to make every single girl that has the misfortune of meeting me, suffer mentally.