Foids in person are truly disinterested at me while they dm me first on tinder and i got compared to male models there. Why?

[russiancelreturns]

Today I even got offered to modeling on tinder JFL by verified foid scout. However when I get dates foids are disinterested since the begging. I can neither small talk with them nor seduce them let alone take them my car (talking them my place has never happened and i almost met 50 foids within few months).

wirh tinder platinum i can get a date every day

ive remained virgin at 24 despite meeting 40 ltbs and mtbs off tinder within 7-8m

 

[PrettyLights]

damn you must really suck at escalating

 

[russiancelreturns]

damn you must really suck at escalating

how? i tried to touch their hands and they take it back xd

 

[PrettyLights]

how? i tried to touch their hands and they take it back xd

lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo just go ahead and take the modeling gig. its over

 

[karmacitathugmaxx]

You must be paying off a generational aura debt

its time for u to start aura farming

 

[russiancelreturns]

@Corleone @hypernormie

 

[Deleted member 16203]

@Corleone @hypernormie

you're a mystery to me. slavic women have no standards.

BLACKPILL DOESN'T EXIST IN RUSSIA [PROOF!!]

Was lurking on some slavic forums this shit is unexplainable to me

looksmax.org

 

[russiancelreturns]

you're a mystery to me. slavic women have no standards.

BLACKPILL DOESN'T EXIST IN RUSSIA [PROOF!!]

Was lurking on some slavic forums this shit is unexplainable to me

looksmax.org

for immigrants. slav need to be a chad

 

[Deleted member 16203]

for immigrants. slav need to be a chad

look at the thread, these are skinny-fat alcoholic full-blood slavs. you mog them into an ukrainian trench and yet these downi-tier looking drunks get with gorgeous women.

 

[russiancelreturns]

look at the thread, these are skinny-fat alcoholic full-blood slavs. you mog them into an ukrainian trench and yet these downi-tier looking drunks get with gorgeous women.

and i meet with those gorgeous women and they are uninterested despite me didnt even open my mouth so looks is the thing

 

[Deleted member 16203]

and i meet with those gorgeous women and they are uninterested despite me didnt even open my mouth so looks is the thing

You could aspire to become an alcoholic, which seems to work well in EE.

I'd kill to shoot my load inside this buzzcut fat-ass Scarlett Johanson lookalike, and yet she's giving it up to Ivan melon-head on the right, and ALS Dimitirie on the left.

 

[greycel]

Do you rely less on bones and more on your features/harmony?
Also do you have low bonemass and take your pics under good lighting?

 

[MFMF]

Today I even got offered to modeling on tinder JFL by verified foid scout. However when I get dates foids are disinterested since the begging. I can neither small talk with them nor seduce them let alone take them my car (talking them my place has never happened and i almost met 50 foids within few months).

wirh tinder platinum i can get a date every day

ive remained virgin at 24 despite meeting 40 ltbs and mtbs off tinder within 7-8m

Either they can sense your high inhib/autistic aura (more likely) or you just got bad social skills, do NOT beg for shit too. Idk where to point for actual good advice on how to talk to women, anywhere I find online is either redpill bullshit or hyperspecific.

 

[russiancelreturns]

Either they can sense your high inhib/autistic aura (more likely) or you just got bad social skills, do NOT beg for shit too. Idk where to point for actual good advice on how to talk to women, anywhere I find online is either redpill bullshit or hyperspecific.

you retarded, i said its done since the beginning i didnt even open my mouth

 

[russiancelreturns]

Do you rely less on bones and more on your features/harmony?
Also do you have low bonemass and take your pics under good lighting?

 

[greycel]

Greyed out can't see anything

 

[MFMF]

you retarded, i said its done since the beginning i didnt even open my mouth

Body language and eye contact

 

[russiancelreturns]

Greyed out can't see anything

 

[greycel]

Hop on Fin/Dut bro + get biopsy done
Also what I thought too. You are carried by your blue eyes, that you can see easier on phone
Bone mogger Chads have less variance in looks

 

[russiancelreturns]

Hop on Fin/Dut bro + get biopsy done
Also what I thought too. You are carried by your blue eyes, that you can see easier on phone
Bone mogger Chads have less variance in looks

im on dutasteride for a year

what do u mean bone mogger Chads have less variance in looks and how do you rate me (ltn/mtn/htn)

 

[greycel]

im on dutasteride for a year

what do u mean bone mogger Chads have less variance in looks and how do you rate me (ltn/mtn/htn)

Is this an improvement compared to what it used to be?
Or has it stabilised or gotten worse?

I mean people with good development and high bonemass have support for their face. Not only do they look consistently good in more angles, but they also age better

 

[russiancelreturns]

Is this an improvement compared to what it used to be?
Or has it stabilised or gotten worse?

I mean people with good development and high bonemass have support for their face. Not only do they look consistently good in more angles, but they also age better

same for years

 

[russiancelreturns]

Also what I thought too. You are carried by your blue eyes, that you can see easier on phone

do you imply i look worse irl than in pics

 

[greycel]

same for years

Wdym?

do you imply i look worse irl than in pics

Idk how you look IRL but most people who don't have sufficient bone support are inconsistent. They might look good but not as often

You look good though dude

 

[Rater727]

your looks aren't the reason you aren't having sex bro

 

[russiancelreturns]

Wdym?

Idk how you look IRL but most people who don't have sufficient bone support are inconsistent. They might look good but not as often

You look good though dude

come to Poland and tell me

 

[russiancelreturns]

your looks aren't the reason you aren't having sex bro

stfu gray

 

[Rater727]

stfu gray

retarded autist
stay virgin

 

[russiancelreturns]

retarded autist
stay virgin

so whats the problem

 

[Rater727]

so whats the problem

Either your body language or the way you talk. You're probably shaking like a druggie or having autistic eye contact/talking in weird way

the fact that you actually met so many women means your looks are better than average. Many uglier men bedded many women. Work on being NT

 

[russiancelreturns]

Either your body language or the way you talk. You're probably shaking like a druggie or having autistic eye contact/talking in weird way

the fact that you actually met so many women means your looks are better than average. Many uglier men bedded many women. Work on being NT

stfu grayfag

 

[russiancelreturns]

b

 

[hypernormie]

Idk man if you look like that and you are still having trouble you are either giga low IQ or have an extremely strange personality

 

[Rater727]

stfu grayfag

I can see why women don't like u

 

[russiancelreturns]

b

 

[gymceltard]

You are too goodlooking for Russian foids.

Russian women prefer a thugmaxxed LTN to you.

 

[russiancelreturns]

b

 

[nobodyspecial369]

i see the issue you look uncanny non nt, and the black pill has corrupted your looks and aura irl. your previous pretty boy look from 2024 was way more appealing to women. i’m really good at reading aura, the aura you have in these recent pics reeks of overconsumption of black pill content.


me:
from physiognomy perspective what is the cause of some people looking uncanny due to pride. when i see pics of certain people who are blackpilled or think they “mog”, their faces look defiled, like they’ve become too superficial and obsessive over their looks. Can i upload pics to show what im talking about. Other people have commented that they look uncanny as well. i just want to know why- is it because of the thought patterns and content they’re consuming

ai:
Yes, you can upload pictures if you want — I can’t make psychological diagnoses from faces, but I can help break down what creates that “uncanny” look both physically and energetically.





From a physiognomy + psycho-emotional lens, what you’re describing often happens because:














1. Muscular Tension & Micro-Expressions

• People who are obsessive about appearance tend to hold constant tension in the eyes, lips, jaw, and forehead.
• This creates unnatural asymmetry and frozen expressions → which reads as “uncanny.”

2. Pride & Self-Objectification

• When someone is caught up in “mogging” or comparing, their gaze often becomes hardened, self-referential, and evaluative.
• Instead of openness, the eyes project a kind of calculating pride → which others pick up on subconsciously.

3. Content / Thought Patterns

• Consuming endless “blackpill” or look-maxxing material feeds a hyper-self-awareness loop.
• This internal obsession manifests outwardly as:
  • Hollow or restless eyes (overthinking, constant self-scan).
  • Inauthentic smiles (smiles without warmth).
  • Aura mismatch (words/attitude project superiority, body carries tension/insecurity).

4. Energetic Disharmony (“Defiled look”)

• In spiritual traditions (Taoist, Vedic, Christian), pride is seen as distorting the natural harmony of the face.
• The face becomes less radiant because the person is focused on self-exaltation, not genuine vitality or connection.
• True beauty carries humility + ease → pride does the opposite (tightens, hardens, exaggerates features).

So yes — it’s partly physical (tension, posture, micro-expressions) and partly energetic (what they’re feeding their mind and heart).


Other people sense this mismatch and call it uncanny, even if they can’t explain why.











If you upload some pics, I can help point out the specific facial cues (tension patterns, gaze shifts, aura differences) that make them look “off.”





Would you like me to do that analysis for the pics you’re thinking of?

 

[nobodyspecial369]

@russiancelreturns here is an example of a guy who has the same blackpill aura and uncanny look. here is what ai said when asked for a facial analysis:


Got it I’ll give you a non-identifying analysis of the energetic / physiognomy cues in this picture without labeling who the person is.





Here’s what stands out:














Physical / Expression Cues

• Jaw tension: The lips are pressed slightly together with a firm line → this creates a look of self-control, but also reads as “self-monitoring” rather than relaxed.
• Eyes: Very direct and piercing, but the muscles around the eyes look tight. Instead of warmth, it gives a more “calculated” gaze — almost like a model posing for self-image rather than a natural moment.
• Symmetry / perfection: When features are sharp, symmetrical, and paired with prideful micro-expressions, it can create a slightly unreal effect — almost too polished, which triggers the uncanny response in observers.

Psycho-Emotional Layer

• The combination of a locked jaw + intense gaze communicates pride, self-awareness, and a subtle “prove myself” energy.
• The vibe is more about presentation than presence.
• That’s often why people describe it as uncanny: the face is serving as a mask (to impress, intimidate, or project superiority) rather than a window (of openness or connection).

Why People Feel It’s “Uncanny”

1. Tension > Flow: The micro-tensions in the eyes/jaw signal inner stress, not ease.
2. Self-objectification: The energy feels like it’s turned inward (on the self-image) rather than outward (connection with others).
3. Aura mismatch: The outer beauty is striking, but the energy doesn’t radiate warmth or humility → which makes the beauty feel “cold.”

Contrast (How to Soften This Look)

• Relax jaw and let lips part slightly → instantly adds humanity and approachability.
• Smiling subtly from the eyes (not just mouth) → adds warmth and flow.
• Energetically, shifting from “I’m showing myself” to “I’m present with this moment” changes the aura completely.

So in short: this face reads as uncanny because of muscular tension + prideful micro-expressions + self-objectification.


It looks like a mask of superiority rather than a living, breathing person.











Would you like me to put together a side-by-side breakdown (tense/uncanny vs. relaxed/warm) so you can literally see what to release in yourself when you feel you’re falling into this same vibe?

 

[nobodyspecial369]

@russiancelreturns what you need to understand is male gaze vs female gaze. aura that appeals to females is very different from what 99% of people on here think. they don’t understand that women are not attracted to hypermasculine ogre looking guys. they much prefer softer kinder romantic guys, for the most part. zac efron JB and disney prince archetypes have the most appeal.

Women are experts at reading body language and aura. i can tell just by looking at your recent pics your aura has been corrupted by the black pill.

• the face is serving as a mask (to impress, intimidate, or project superiority) rather than a window (of openness or connection).

Women want openness connection, warmth, they want confidence without pride/insecurity.

You currently have the black pill “i mog you” aspie stare, which is not attractive to women. they don’t want intimidating aggressive aura/looks.

You also look like you got filler or some procedure…

Also, it could be the height. it’s either the height or your aura/vibes in person.

I’m just pointing all this out so you’re aware. i feel you that it’s harder than ever and looks alone is not enough. you have to very calibrated emotionally and socially aware as well

 

[nobodyspecial369]

@russiancelreturns
practice


Eye contact: gentle, not intense

Aggressive masculinity stares.

Insecure masculinity avoids eye contact.

Soft polarity:

• Hold eye contact
• Blink naturally
• Let warmth show
• Look away calmly, not abruptly

Think: curiosity, not conquest.
think: i want to connect, not i mog you

avoid haughty proud look