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Explain this video?

Why is the shortest guy seen as one of the least desirable by the majority of the women despite being the most handsome?

I feel like people who unironically believe face>height never leave their basement and step out into the real world...

If face was truly the most important factor, he would've easily have been all of their first choice?
 
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Tom Cruise showing his wide palated smile right now
 
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I mean...JESUS CHRIST look at this brutal face mog...
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How can anyone see this and STILL believe face is more important than height??
 
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Jeremy Meeks got bailed out of jail and is now a millionaire because he has a handsome face. If that doesn't demonstrate the power that an attractive face has on women I don't know what will.

And they're all around the same level of facial attractiveness. None of these guys are anything special facially.
 
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Jeremy Meeks got bailed out of jail and is now a millionaire because he has a handsome face. If that doesn't demonstrate the power that an attractive face has on women I don't know what will.

And they're all around the same level of facial attractiveness. None of these guys are anything special facially.
Jeremy Meeks is tall though...
 
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Face is everything tho
 
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he was 6’0

but no girl ever shamed him for his height

183-185 is ideal
Google lists 1.83 but it inflates a lot so maybe 1.80

183-185 is good but not ideal you won't mog the average person by a lot
188-193 is golden height I'm 195 so just above that
 
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How tall are you buddy boyo
5'6"

I realize my perspective will be biased based on this...but in my experience being short is a huge failo and basically disqualifies you from a lot of things, even with a decent face. Having a Tom Cruise-level face is so rare that it's really not even worth adding to the discussion.
 
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5'6"

I realize my perspective will be biased based on this...but in my experience being short is a huge failo and basically disqualifies you from a lot of things, even with a decent face. Having a Tom Cruise-level face is so rare that it's really not even worth adding to the discussion.
5'5-5'7 range can do well provided they look like this and sufficiently socially equipped

Moderate dose test can get you a similar physique + lower third is easy to max from implants, also you can liftmax or get surgery to get taller if one was so inclined

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5'5-5'7 range can do well provided they look like this and sufficiently socially equipped

Moderate dose test can get you a similar physique + lower third is easy to max from implants, also you can liftmax or get surgery to get taller if one was so inclined

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I'm already thin and have a good lower third.

I'm not willing to do any looksmaxxing that will sacrifice comfort, such as wearing lifts or a hair system (because I don't think the benefits will be worth it).

I'm fairly high inhib though and have pretty lacking social skills. I'm very quiet because I don't know what to say most of the time in social situations. I've gotten better at this as I've gotten older because I've learned to basically just copy what others do or say in certain situations, and it has made socializing go more smoothly for me, but I'm still not great at it. It just doesn't come naturally to me at all, but has gotten easier with practice.
 
I'm already thin and have a good lower third.

I'm not willing to do any looksmaxxing that will sacrifice comfort, such as wearing lifts or a hair system (because I don't think the benefits will be worth it).

I'm fairly high inhib though and have pretty lacking social skills. I'm very quiet because I don't know what to say most of the time in social situations. I've gotten better at this as I've gotten older because I've learned to basically just copy what others do or say in certain situations, and it has made socializing go more smoothly for me, but I'm still not great at it. It just doesn't come naturally to me at all, but has gotten easier with practice.
Why won't you wear a hair piece? Are you balding tho?
 
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Why won't you wear a hair piece? Are you balding tho?
Yes, diffuse thinning on top.

The thought of gluing or taping a mop of hair to my bare scalp just sounds uncomfortable to me.
 
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Yes, diffuse thinning on top.

The thought of gluing or taping a mop of hair to my bare scalp just sounds uncomfortable to me.
Bro with all due respect and no offence but that's a bad combo... I mean being not tall and without hair is a deadly combo.

Are you on any meds to keep it at least? DHT blockers? Min? Dermarolling?

Maybe iron / vita D3 defecient?
 
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Bro with all due respect and no offence but that's a bad combo... I mean being not tall and without hair is a deadly combo.

Are you on any meds to keep it at least? DHT blockers? Min? Dermarolling?

Maybe iron / vita D3 defecient?
Honestly, I'm not too motivated to do anything to save my hair since I got little female attention even when I had nice thick hair. I don't think me balding makes much of a difference. I just don't have much to lose in that regard.

I'm pretty sure it's not a vitamin deficiency because it follows the MPB pattern as the sides and back are still pretty thick compared to the top.
 
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Face trumps height 100%, maybe for normie tier category (around 4-5 psl) matter the most, but once a chadlite face appear, all the girl go for him. What I want to say is that face is more powerfull than height. 5'9" chadlite > 6'4" MTN, but most likely 5'9" HTN < 6'4" LTN
 
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Honestly, I'm not too motivated to do anything to save my hair since I got little female attention even when I had nice thick hair. I don't think me balding makes much of a difference. I just don't have much to lose in that regard.

I'm pretty sure it's not a vitamin deficiency because it follows the MPB pattern as the sides and back are still pretty thick compared to the top.
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Honestly, I'm not too motivated to do anything to save my hair since I got little female attention even when I had nice thick hair. I don't think me balding makes much of a difference. I just don't have much to lose in that regard.

I'm pretty sure it's not a vitamin deficiency because it follows the MPB pattern as the sides and back are still pretty thick compared to the top.
I presume that you're white. Which makes you able to SEAmaxx if then you would still need hair.

Just don't lose motivation if so why are you here in the first place? Just so you can shitpost?
 
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I presume that you're white. Which makes you able to SEAmaxx if then you would still need hair.

Just don't lose motivation if so why are you here in the first place? Just so you can shitpost?
I'm just interested in looks theory and find the discussions interesting. I've already accepted that it's over for me.

I'm not going to go halfway across the world just to get a woman. That's absurd to me when my father and grandfather married women who lived in the same town as them. :feelskek:
 
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Explain this video?

Why is the shortest guy seen as one of the least desirable by the majority of the women despite being the most handsome?

I feel like people who unironically believe face>height never leave their basement and step out into the real world...

If face was truly the most important factor, he would've easily have been all of their first choice?

I swear OP height>face IRL
I'm saying this because MOST DUDES ARE NOT CHADS FACIALLY IRL, MOST DUDES ARE RECESSED, they're normies at most or low tier normies. This is why height+body > everything else
I'm a proof of that, I'm not that GL facially, I only got height and hair and yet I can show you the girls I pulled that are super hot

also how tall r u OP?
 
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That guy is fucking ugly jfl at this shit fucking thread

Doesn’t even have fucking hair
 
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I swear OP height>face IRL
I'm saying this because MOST DUDES ARE NOT CHADS FACIALLY IRL, MOST DUDES ARE RECESSED, they're normies at most or low tier normies. This is why height+body > everything else
I'm a proof of that, I'm not that GL facially, I only got height and hair and yet I can show you the girls I pulled that are super hot

also how tall r u OP?
5'6".

I have a decent face I guess because I used to get called cute/hot by girls in school but nothing ever came of it. You need height to have sex appeal, otherwise you're just something cute for them to look at.
 
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Jeremy Meeks got bailed out of jail and is now a millionaire because he has a handsome face. If that doesn't demonstrate the power that an attractive face has on women I don't know what will.

And they're all around the same level of facial attractiveness. None of these guys are anything special facially.
this argument is so funny
because Jeremy Meeks is one in a billion.
You really think every man that's attractive facially looks as good as Jeremy Meeks? Are you a fucking retard?
You think every attractive man out here is Jeremy Meeks?
Do you think women standards are that high that they want a man facially GL as Jeremy Meeks
Also btw there's some women that don't find Jeremy Meeks attractive, a reminder

Guys you think are normies facially are chads to women, and chads facially to you is subhuman to woman
FACIAL BEAUTY IS SUBJECTIVE (there is some objectives features/ratios but JFL if you think there's a face that appeal to all women)
WHILE HEIGHT IS OBJECTIVE
 
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5'6".

I have a decent face I guess because I used to get called cute/hot by girls in school but nothing ever came of it. You need height to have sex appeal, otherwise you're just something cute for them to look at.
I know right. I know a friend that is 5ft5 and a legit chadlite facially, he still pulls girls but he doesn't pull enough girls as most women think he's not man enough because of his height. It's brutal because I fucking feel so bad for him as he's a legit cool NT guy. I wonder if he ever thinks about his height like this
 
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this argument is so funny
because Jeremy Meeks is one in a billion.
You really think every man that's attractive facially looks as good as Jeremy Meeks? Are you a fucking retard?
You think every attractive man out here is Jeremy Meeks?
Do you think women standards are that high that they want a man facially GL as Jeremy Meeks
Also btw there's some women that don't find Jeremy Meeks attractive, a reminder

Guys you think are normies facially are chads to women, and chads facially to you is subhuman to woman
FACIAL BEAUTY IS SUBJECTIVE (there is some objectives features/ratios but JFL if you think there's a face that appeal to all women)
WHILE HEIGHT IS OBJECTIVE
This post sums up pretty well why height is more important than face.
 
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Being short is more brutal than being ugly but being good looking is better than being tall
That's my opinion and my type of girls seem to prefer face over height while if you're going clubbing it's better to be tall
Since I'm 5'11 I really don't care about height much esp since it's obviously my face and race holding me back
Also average man is decent height but not that gl facially
 
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5'5-5'7 range can do well provided they look like this and sufficiently socially equipped

Moderate dose test can get you a similar physique + lower third is easy to max from implants, also you can liftmax or get surgery to get taller if one was so inclined

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jfl at touching any anabolic compound if you’re under 5’10
 
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I mean...JESUS CHRIST look at this brutal face mog...
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How can anyone see this and STILL believe face is more important than height??
Retarded comparison, he's the size of a little boy so no matter what face he has, the attraction is dead, once you're atleast average and woman feel your physical presence, your face will be important
 
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This tbh
Just twink max and wear lifts cuz it's over for body halo if under 5'10
this physique is enough for girls at all heights but esp if you’re under 5’10 try to get a physique like this

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you also don’t even need to juice if you’re under 5’10 to get fuarked like these male gaze guys want
 
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this physique is enough for girls at all heights but esp if you’re under 5’10 try to get a physique like this

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you also don’t even need to juice if you’re under 5’10 to get fuarked like these male gaze guys want
I'm aiming for that physique rn. Simply don't see any reason to roid when this is achievable in atmost 2 years
 
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I'm aiming for that physique rn. Simply don't see any reason to roid when this is achievable in atmost 2 years
that’s achievable in even less time tbh
 
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I know right. I know a friend that is 5ft5 and a legit chadlite facially, he still pulls girls but he doesn't pull enough girls as most women think he's not man enough because of his height. It's brutal because I fucking feel so bad for him as he's a legit cool NT guy. I wonder if he ever thinks about his height like this
please show him for this poll i was going to do


i literally cannot think of any man that is 5’6 and below that is 5+ psl besides x

also don’t reference kind of short guys that are high psl like cruise somerhalder zayn (5’7-5’9) please reference actual manlets (5’6-)
 
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low IQ post. Height only matters if you meet a minimum face threshold. Face only matters if you meet a minimum height threshold (although, you'll still do significantly better for guys around the same height). This dude is a giga-manlet (under 5'5) so he'll struggle even more than a reg short guy (5'5-5'7). On top of that, after meeting a minimum face threshold for most women, height becomes a multiplier and face matters less. Like if there was a choice between a tall 6'2 chadlite vs a 5'7 chad, women would obviously go for the chadlite. But if there was a choice between a 5'7 chad and a 6'2 MTN, they'd go for the chad. All of these guys are HTN (5.5-6.5) so they could be classified as "cute" by alot of women. Not one of these guys are ugly. But if there was a lineup of ugly and LTN-MTN guys next to this guy and he was 5'5-5'7, he'd do much better. PSL as a whole is just cope entirely since there is more to attraction than physical appearance/height. I like the evo psychology take on it including other shit blackpillers take for granted:

 
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Daily face>height thread when tall good looking guys are creampieing all your oneitises

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Retarded comparison, he's the size of a little boy so no matter what face he has, the attraction is dead, once you're atleast average and woman feel your physical presence, your face will be important
So you acknowledge that height is more important than face then?

low IQ post. Height only matters if you meet a minimum face threshold. Face only matters if you meet a minimum height threshold (although, you'll still do significantly better for guys around the same height). This dude is a giga-manlet (under 5'5) so he'll struggle even more than a reg short guy (5'5-5'7). On top of that, after meeting a minimum face threshold for most women, height becomes a multiplier and face matters less. Like if there was a choice between a tall 6'2 chadlite vs a 5'7 chad, women would obviously go for the chadlite. But if there was a choice between a 5'7 chad and a 6'2 MTN, they'd go for the chad. All of these guys are HTN (5.5-6.5) so they could be classified as "cute" by alot of women. Not one of these guys are ugly. But if there was a lineup of ugly and LTN-MTN guys next to this guy and he was 5'5-5'7, he'd do much better. PSL as a whole is just cope entirely since there is more to attraction than physical appearance/height. I like the evo psychology take on it including other shit blackpillers take for granted:


I agree with a lot of this post, except...
But if there was a choice between a 5'7 chad and a 6'2 MTN, they'd go for the chad.
I'm not sure if that's true... I think in a lot of cases the woman will still choose the tall normie over the short chad. I think a lot of blackpillers overestimate the importance of face and underestimate the importance of height. Short height is generally a huge turn-off to women, regardless of face. Once you are at least 5'10", face is undeniably more important than height, but under that...
 
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So you acknowledge that height is more important than face then?


I agree with a lot of this post, except...

I'm not sure if that's true... I think in a lot of cases the woman will still choose the tall normie over the short chad. I think a lot of blackpillers overestimate the importance of face and underestimate the importance of height. Short height is generally a huge turn-off to women, regardless of face. Once you are at least 5'10", face is undeniably more important than height, but under that...
Height will have a bigger affect on your dating life the shorter you are, and the shorter you are the smaller is the pool of women that'll find you attractive, but, being short has a much bigger negative affect than the Halo of being tall, but the Halo of a top tier face is much stronger than the Halo of being 6'5, when we compare the power of being at the top in one of them
 
5'6".

I have a decent face I guess because I used to get called cute/hot by girls in school but nothing ever came of it. You need height to have sex appeal, otherwise you're just something cute for them to look at.
You're 13th percentile height, so of course you're biased. Imagine trying to interact with women with a 13th percentile face.
 
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