You clearly haven’t suffered enough. What the fuck do you have to lose? Just don’t go to Eppley for surgery.
Yeah I'm here not because of suffering but because of good starting base to looksmax. Probably I have something to lose and of course I'm not cheaping on this so only top surgeons
Then you will never have what it takes to actually get bone cuts. Maybe try fillers which are temporary
What was your rehabilitation experience?
How much pain for a week? Like is it manageable or have to ldar while taking painkillers?
After what age do you consider its unbearably painful?
Basically LDAR for a week, I just took tylenol because my doctor wouldn’t prescribe percs. It was bearable though. Pain on par with getting a little bruised up after a fight. Was 100% worth it.
25
So realistically to escape you need to start doing at 20-22?
Yes there is no point in ascending that late imo so get into anti ageing in the mean time
did u ascend after all those procedures?
I had the chin implant and rhino when I was 18. I'm 40 now. The rhino was botched and just got worse and worse over time. I did get a girlfriend within a year of that surgery and dated her for 10 years.
what would you say ur looks level was before and after. (like on the MTN, HTN type scale)
Never too late to improve. Looking better will always improve your current situation no matter your age, barring extreme examples like a 99 year old in the retirement home I suppose.
True im just thinking of the mental damage done though im ascending this year or early 2025 with giantimplants hopefully
Have you consulted with him or hoping to be one of the chosen few?
Holy shit you are 40? Are you single now? I always had a fear of not marrying by the time im 30 because it’s less likely after that ykwim? Then again I am a young cel so what do I know.
Yea true really destroys the brain of many people here. The it’s over by and the it’s over if. If you’re not deformed it’s never over just harder. And it’s always good to increase the chances
How to know if you have a really good base?
Look how girls treat you
What if i dont interact with them
Yeah, I'm single. I know what you mean. I went through a period where I was super depressed about having nothing going for me and no future, but then I just stopped caring. Maybe because I started making money. But maybe because I'm going to die in like 30 years, which doesn't really seem like that long of a time anymore, and death is going to erase everything.
I don't know. Subhuman -> better looking subhuman. Subhuman -> MTN. I still look subhuman in pictures, but I feel like I'm exceptionally unphotogenic. It's not just cope. My life experiences don't really match up with how bad I look in pictures, and I also don't think I look anywhere near that bad when I look in the mirror.
Whats your advices for somebody 18y? More like from life experience, not some exact looksmaxing advice
I refuse to believe that there are people on .org who says that surgery is autistic. What are you even doing here
Damn, I wish you happiness bhai
bro i’m 16 and i’m low inhib enough to go to a surgeon an hour away by myself for a consultation. Grow a pair of balls
you're a big boy!
Take care of your health, get enough sleep, take care of your teeth. Get rid of bad habits. Run 5k 2x a week and 10k 1x, or something like that. Lift weights. Meditate 45 minutes a day. Learn to dance. Learn Muay Thai. Learn an instrument. Learn another language, preferably German, and then go to college practically for free in Germany. Read books. Join a climbing gym. Don't take out $100,000 of student loans unless you know exactly what you want to do.
Sounds like you aren’t a true sub5. For sub5s the decision is easy because they have lived through the misery of being sub5. Women don’t just friendzone you or whatever, they treat you worse than piss on the side of the road- they’ll actively make your life so miserable that you have to choose between roping, coping, or surgery.
Yes I'm definitely not a truecel. The last paragraph describes my situation
Agree completely - it is literally never over. It's a sad, defeatist mentality to have. Funnily enough, life doesn't just end after 30. I sometimes have to remind myself that a lot of people here don't have context outside of high-school, and don't really interact with people over the age of their peers. I usually trust that their perspectives will change when they enter the working world and see that people older than them can magically lead fulfilling lives.
I've created an offtopic thread about this, what do you think about his quality of life if we change age from 26 to even older 33?
looksmax.org
The only truecel I can imagine If you Have giga eye asymmetry, like one eye being 1cm above The other. Or giga manlet like 5'3 because Even LL won't Make you into man Heights. Almost everyone can ascend
Did you suffer any nerve damage witht he surgeries?
complete opposite for me when booking mine - only excitement but I’ve experienced bp first hand socially. Only worry was finances but I’m stable and have planned years ahead. If ur with a good surgeon and have the money the only way is up
still too early to tell. everything 's fine except one half of my lower lip, but for a while there was absolutely no feeling, now it's tingly (which is originally how the other half felt, now that half is normal)
