For natural gymcels: this is the secret sauce

[tehVigilante]

To be quite honest with you the guys who are looking for any advantage in supps are either retarded or they just want to jump on gear but are pussies.

Literally, testosterone is cheaper than all of this marketed supps and works.You can build a realy good physique off testosterone alone.

 

[FootLongDong]

This thread is one of the most retarded I’ve seen

I guess OP has never been in a overtraing state
Other people telling 5 times a week fullbody workout as a beginner
Or brosplit as a beginner

You guys should smell glue less often

 

[tehVigilante]

Also daily reminder that after 1/2 years of natty gymceling you're better off just maintaining as the progress will be too slow.

 

[kalefartbomb]

If you train with good effort and eat enough animal protein you will reach a natty "limit" within a couple of years regardless of how you train. Been there done that, tried low volume/frequency, high volume/frequency, full body HIT, PPL, 6 day brosplits. Makes no real difference. Pick whatever motivates you the best and allows you to apply the most effort to your workouts. If you are the type of person who LOVES the gym and can't wait to lift then do a 6 day brosplit. If you want bang for buck results for the minimum investment then do HIT. If you only care about club muscles then train like Rich Piana. Stop thinking there is some holy grail to look like X youtuber or influencer, it doesn't work like that. Your natty results will look more or less the same regardless of which path you take, you just have to be able to stick to the journey with consistency.

 

[freshpeppermint]

Would working out neck every day be a good idea? What do you think is the sweet spot for working out something like the neck??

 

[Yellowskies]

Would working out neck every day be a good idea? What do you think is the sweet spot for working out something like the neck??

I think neck responds to frequency and high reps.. not weights

I would do neck 4-5 times a week with high reps.

 

[Yellowskies]

This thread is one of the most retarded I’ve seen

I guess OP has never been in a overtraing state
Other people telling 5 times a week fullbody workout as a beginner
Or brosplit as a beginner

You guys should smell glue less often

Overtrained state., omg what a pussy what is this soy place

The idea with fbw 5 times/week is to take about the same weekly volume as any split but spread it out

It’s just 8 exercises per time, nothing crazy.

 

[Yellowskies]

If you train with good effort and eat enough animal protein you will reach a natty "limit" within a couple of years regardless of how you train. Been there done that, tried low volume/frequency, high volume/frequency, full body HIT, PPL, 6 day brosplits. Makes no real difference. Pick whatever motivates you the best and allows you to apply the most effort to your workouts. If you are the type of person who LOVES the gym and can't wait to lift then do a 6 day brosplit. If you want bang for buck results for the minimum investment then do HIT. If you only care about club muscles then train like Rich Piana. Stop thinking there is some holy grail to look like X youtuber or influencer, it doesn't work like that. Your natty results will look more or less the same regardless of which path you take, you just have to be able to stick to the journey with consistency.

This is true, there’s no doubt natties are not going to look like roiders and that natural gymcelling is a sisofys journey.

You can gain like 0.3 kg each year, that’s what I do.

And yea, pick whatever split works. But there are retarded bro-ideas out there about not training to often. i just need to shatter this myth because it’s bullshit.

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

So you recommend full body 5 times a week?
Wouldn't your CNS be fried though

I was thinking a upper lower upper lower 4x a week?

Ive experimented with a lot of diff routines over my gymcelling career and to me I think PPL 6 times a week mogs

Joe Delaney said similar thing and hes one of few fitness youtubers I believe is 100% natty