
fishinthesee
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If you’re already decently attractive, very young (like 13-15) and can attract foids, and just want to look better, i guarantee you this forum won’t help you in most cases (unless you have some shitty haircut or like basically any falio ever that can be fixed easily but why would you even need org for that) All you will do is get slightly behind on ur social skills, waste your teenage time, and find a few insanely niche softmaxxes that ascend u +.01 PSL in total

Heres some backround on my Experience with bp from a young age and being like above average in looks and js shy asf, so skip to bold text if u dgaf im gonna yap
I knew about org when I was 14 and was classically hamza/tatepilled
and I would browse org, even watched wheat waffles and other BP yts but never gave into BP or anything and I stayed redpilled normal. I only used org for super niche things like social media profile optimizing and methods for female followers, and general looksmax advice you'd find here you couldn't really find commonly anywhere else on mainstream platforms.
I never swallowed bp
then bc that advice was ALL i needed for decent teen love bc I wasnt ugly or anything I was js on the internet a lot since covid and behind socially & js saw incels and shit as autists but more smart when it came to looks stuff than redpillers. Most advice I used isnt as rare anymore & is surface level like tiktok self improvement creator ahh advice. And keep in mind im 14/15 I didnt have money for shit like HGH (i was like 5'4 then too) anyway. I was already doing the basics like whitening strips, eating clean, invisalign, & nose breathing, which nowadays is basically surface level looksmaxxing, you do NOT need a forum to do that.
I didnt look at org for like 2 yrs until I got bad acne at 17, which nukes your appeal around women and I noticed people treat u noticeably worse and found that if youre naturally shy like me and dont have smth insane to compensate with (popularity is the only thing saving u statuspill) ur gonna have a rough time
After this I realized BP
was true and completely swallowed it because I knew I already had a decent base.
So here is all you really need to mog more and set yourself up if you look good already
Sleep 8–9+hours. Nature punishes you in life and looks if you don’t.
Eat relatively clean and a lot of protein + dont tryhard it bc i guarantee u youll go to social events and eat some bs so js avoid wrecking your gut/skin.
Work out, but dont stress yourself out too much, low stress > gym any day
Clear up all ur potential fixable falios like acne (accutane mogs)
Do basic softmaxxes like whitening strips, braces/invisaline, experiment with ur hair style and what fits u the best, also do skincare if that counts as one
Focus in school and try to get decent grades (if ur lucky parents could buy u ascension tools or give u money to help u ascend)
Make friends and get social experience
Take basic supplements
Don’t cut at all unless its for a short amount of time. Only drop to around around mid-10% bf until plates close
Play sports you enjoy (and if ur ass then focus on other shi like school and studying or working a job, which is even better with a friend)
99% of above avg teens with an urge to look better can do this pretty easily, so if you did this, congrats, you not only maximized your puberty/development but also mental development and social skills and it'll put you ahead in looks/life as a result of that.
Dont even consider HGH or any subq shit if you arent doing most of these(except working out it hurts)
For those that also worry about height, look at your family. Compare your dad, mom, if u care enough then compare other relatives heights. Even ask your parents what height they were at your age. Put allat shit into chatgpt and ask it to estimate ur future height and it gives a decent idea of where youll end up.#hopepill i was 5’0 at 14, 5’4 at 15, now 5’10 with plates still open as I’m about to turn 18 (parents 6ft and 5'5). This is a pretty normal height and is abt average for a western european but still taller than I thought id ever be. Aromasin is also dirt cheap and oral so you can js do that if u wanna keep plates open for longer.
For those reading who are below the HLTN/MLTN area (i dont know why youre on this thread lol) who want to ascend hard, browsing here can actually help, it can save lives. But if you’re already like mtn+ chances are that rotting here just fills your brain with niche info that won’t matter like every bones name in the human skull. You’d be better off doing basic health stuff, talking to girls, building social skills, working a job, and focusing on school at least a little bit, challenge yourself. This is how you build a career and life which makes u money, and money is the freedom for professional cosmetic surgeries later if you still even still care.
tldr;
Start slaying w the looks you have and pursue whatever passion you have and lifemaxx, but dont listen to me, im sure you wont regret rotting away ur youth online on these forums for ur + 0.01 psl when youre on ur deathbed lol.

edit: im not saying not to ascend if ur already like mtn at 14 or smth, im just saying if ur a young teenager if you just live healthier youll naturally reach htn most likely from just taking care of yourself and letting yourself develop in puberty right, there is no need for extreme measures or destroying your mental health, and doing so would prob result in a net loss
Heres some backround on my Experience with bp from a young age and being like above average in looks and js shy asf, so skip to bold text if u dgaf im gonna yap
I knew about org when I was 14 and was classically hamza/tatepilled
I never swallowed bp
I didnt look at org for like 2 yrs until I got bad acne at 17, which nukes your appeal around women and I noticed people treat u noticeably worse and found that if youre naturally shy like me and dont have smth insane to compensate with (popularity is the only thing saving u statuspill) ur gonna have a rough time
After this I realized BP
So here is all you really need to mog more and set yourself up if you look good already
Sleep 8–9+hours. Nature punishes you in life and looks if you don’t.
Eat relatively clean and a lot of protein + dont tryhard it bc i guarantee u youll go to social events and eat some bs so js avoid wrecking your gut/skin.
Work out, but dont stress yourself out too much, low stress > gym any day
Clear up all ur potential fixable falios like acne (accutane mogs)
Do basic softmaxxes like whitening strips, braces/invisaline, experiment with ur hair style and what fits u the best, also do skincare if that counts as one
Focus in school and try to get decent grades (if ur lucky parents could buy u ascension tools or give u money to help u ascend)
Make friends and get social experience
Take basic supplements
Don’t cut at all unless its for a short amount of time. Only drop to around around mid-10% bf until plates close
Play sports you enjoy (and if ur ass then focus on other shi like school and studying or working a job, which is even better with a friend)
99% of above avg teens with an urge to look better can do this pretty easily, so if you did this, congrats, you not only maximized your puberty/development but also mental development and social skills and it'll put you ahead in looks/life as a result of that.
Dont even consider HGH or any subq shit if you arent doing most of these(except working out it hurts)
For those that also worry about height, look at your family. Compare your dad, mom, if u care enough then compare other relatives heights. Even ask your parents what height they were at your age. Put allat shit into chatgpt and ask it to estimate ur future height and it gives a decent idea of where youll end up.#hopepill i was 5’0 at 14, 5’4 at 15, now 5’10 with plates still open as I’m about to turn 18 (parents 6ft and 5'5). This is a pretty normal height and is abt average for a western european but still taller than I thought id ever be. Aromasin is also dirt cheap and oral so you can js do that if u wanna keep plates open for longer.
For those reading who are below the HLTN/MLTN area (i dont know why youre on this thread lol) who want to ascend hard, browsing here can actually help, it can save lives. But if you’re already like mtn+ chances are that rotting here just fills your brain with niche info that won’t matter like every bones name in the human skull. You’d be better off doing basic health stuff, talking to girls, building social skills, working a job, and focusing on school at least a little bit, challenge yourself. This is how you build a career and life which makes u money, and money is the freedom for professional cosmetic surgeries later if you still even still care.
tldr;
Start slaying w the looks you have and pursue whatever passion you have and lifemaxx, but dont listen to me, im sure you wont regret rotting away ur youth online on these forums for ur + 0.01 psl when youre on ur deathbed lol.
edit: im not saying not to ascend if ur already like mtn at 14 or smth, im just saying if ur a young teenager if you just live healthier youll naturally reach htn most likely from just taking care of yourself and letting yourself develop in puberty right, there is no need for extreme measures or destroying your mental health, and doing so would prob result in a net loss
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