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If you’re already decently attractive, very young (like 13-15) and can attract foids, and just want to look better, i guarantee you this forum won’t help you in most cases (unless you have some shitty haircut or like basically any falio ever that can be fixed easily but why would you even need org for that) All you will do is get slightly behind on ur social skills, waste your teenage time, and find a few insanely niche softmaxxes that ascend u +.01 PSL in total:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:


Heres some backround on my Experience with bp from a young age and being like above average in looks and js shy asf, so skip to bold text if u dgaf im gonna yap

I knew about org when I was 14 and was classically hamza/tatepilled:redpill: and I would browse org, even watched wheat waffles and other BP yts but never gave into BP or anything and I stayed redpilled normal. I only used org for super niche things like social media profile optimizing and methods for female followers, and general looksmax advice you'd find here you couldn't really find commonly anywhere else on mainstream platforms.

I never swallowed bp:blackpill: then bc that advice was ALL i needed for decent teen love bc I wasnt ugly or anything I was js on the internet a lot since covid and behind socially & js saw incels and shit as autists but more smart when it came to looks stuff than redpillers. Most advice I used isnt as rare anymore & is surface level like tiktok self improvement creator ahh advice. And keep in mind im 14/15 I didnt have money for shit like HGH (i was like 5'4 then too) anyway. I was already doing the basics like whitening strips, eating clean, invisalign, & nose breathing, which nowadays is basically surface level looksmaxxing, you do NOT need a forum to do that.
I didnt look at org for like 2 yrs until I got bad acne at 17, which nukes your appeal around women and I noticed people treat u noticeably worse and found that if youre naturally shy like me and dont have smth insane to compensate with (popularity is the only thing saving u statuspill) ur gonna have a rough time

After this I realized BP :blackpill:was true and completely swallowed it because I knew I already had a decent base.

So here is all you really need to mog more and set yourself up if you look good already

Sleep 8–9+hours. Nature punishes you in life and looks if you don’t.
Eat relatively clean and a lot of protein + dont tryhard it bc i guarantee u youll go to social events and eat some bs so js avoid wrecking your gut/skin.
Work out, but dont stress yourself out too much, low stress > gym any day
Clear up all ur potential fixable falios like acne (accutane mogs)
Do basic softmaxxes like whitening strips, braces/invisaline, experiment with ur hair style and what fits u the best, also do skincare if that counts as one
Focus in school and try to get decent grades (if ur lucky parents could buy u ascension tools or give u money to help u ascend)
Make friends and get social experience
Take basic supplements
Don’t cut at all unless its for a short amount of time. Only drop to around around mid-10% bf until plates close
Play sports you enjoy (and if ur ass then focus on other shi like school and studying or working a job, which is even better with a friend)
99% of above avg teens with an urge to look better can do this pretty easily, so if you did this, congrats, you not only maximized your puberty/development but also mental development and social skills and it'll put you ahead in looks/life as a result of that.
Dont even consider HGH or any subq shit if you arent doing most of these(except working out it hurts) :forcedsmile:


For those that also worry about height, look at your family. Compare your dad, mom, if u care enough then compare other relatives heights. Even ask your parents what height they were at your age. Put allat shit into chatgpt and ask it to estimate ur future height and it gives a decent idea of where youll end up.#hopepill i was 5’0 at 14, 5’4 at 15, now 5’10 with plates still open as I’m about to turn 18 (parents 6ft and 5'5). This is a pretty normal height and is abt average for a western european but still taller than I thought id ever be. Aromasin is also dirt cheap and oral so you can js do that if u wanna keep plates open for longer.

For those reading who are below the HLTN/MLTN area (i dont know why youre on this thread lol) who want to ascend hard, browsing here can actually help, it can save lives. But if you’re already like mtn+ chances are that rotting here just fills your brain with niche info that won’t matter like every bones name in the human skull. You’d be better off doing basic health stuff, talking to girls, building social skills, working a job, and focusing on school at least a little bit, challenge yourself. This is how you build a career and life which makes u money, and money is the freedom for professional cosmetic surgeries later if you still even still care.

tldr;
Start slaying w the looks you have and pursue whatever passion you have and lifemaxx, but dont listen to me, im sure you wont regret rotting away ur youth online on these forums for ur + 0.01 psl when youre on ur deathbed lol. :forcedsmile::forcedsmile:

edit: im not saying not to ascend if ur already like mtn at 14 or smth, im just saying if ur a young teenager if you just live healthier youll naturally reach htn most likely from just taking care of yourself and letting yourself develop in puberty right, there is no need for extreme measures or destroying your mental health, and doing so would prob result in a net loss
 
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ie youre too anxious to say "sorry bro im full"

no one is forcing you to eat anything just go to the social event and eat clean :lul:
Fairs, but its not usually like there is always healthy food and bringing it is sort of inconvenient

Ofc when there is healthy food i try to eat some of that but from what ive found, especially with women , is they like it when ur not even trying at all and its just your genetics on display basically, i never tell foids i eat healthy, workout, or do skincare, and i even joke about not brushing my teeth or taking showers

and also if there is unhealthy food there and not healthy food id just eat the goyslop instead of starve, and if the food genuinely looks horrendous, then if i can, ill smoke a cig
nevertheless, fair point no one is forcing you to eat the food
 
"focus on school":lul: what is this cope
you definitely should have like a certain level of focus on school?? not saying you have to be the best in your class or anything but its not that much effort and will make you have a higher level of intelligence
 
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If you’re already decently attractive, very young (like 13-15) and can attract foids, and just want to look better, i guarantee you this forum won’t help you in most cases (unless you have some shitty haircut or like basically any falio ever that can be fixed easily but why would you even need org for that) All you will do is get slightly behind on ur social skills, waste your teenage time, and find a few insanely niche softmaxxes that ascend u +.01 PSL in total:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:


Heres some backround on my Experience with bp from a young age and being like above average in looks and js shy asf, so skip to bold text if u dgaf im gonna yap

I knew about org when I was 14 and was classically hamza/tatepilled:redpill: and I would browse org, even watched wheat waffles and other BP yts but never gave into BP or anything and I stayed redpilled normal. I only used org for super niche things like social media profile optimizing and methods for female followers, and general looksmax advice you'd find here you couldn't really find commonly anywhere else on mainstream platforms.

I never swallowed bp:blackpill: then bc that advice was ALL i needed for decent teen love bc I wasnt ugly or anything I was js on the internet a lot since covid and behind socially & js saw incels and shit as autists but more smart when it came to looks stuff than redpillers. Most advice I used isnt as rare anymore & is surface level like tiktok self improvement creator ahh advice. And keep in mind im 14/15 I didnt have money for shit like HGH (i was like 5'4 then too) anyway. I was already doing the basics like whitening strips, eating clean, invisalign, & nose breathing, which nowadays is basically surface level looksmaxxing, you do NOT need a forum to do that.
I didnt look at org for like 2 yrs until I got bad acne at 17, which nukes your appeal around women and I noticed people treat u noticeably worse and found that if youre naturally shy like me and dont have smth insane to compensate with (popularity is the only thing saving u statuspill) ur gonna have a rough time

After this I realized BP :blackpill:was true and completely swallowed it because I knew I already had a decent base.

So here is all you really need to mog more and set yourself up if you look good already

Sleep 8–9+hours. Nature punishes you in life and looks if you don’t.
Eat relatively clean and a lot of protein + dont tryhard it bc i guarantee u youll go to social events and eat some bs so js avoid wrecking your gut/skin.
Work out, but dont stress yourself out too much, low stress > gym any day
Clear up all ur potential fixable falios like acne (accutane mogs)
Do basic softmaxxes like whitening strips, braces/invisaline, experiment with ur hair style and what fits u the best, also do skincare if that counts as one
Focus in school and try to get decent grades (if ur lucky parents could buy u ascension tools or give u money to help u ascend)
Make friends and get social experience
Take basic supplements
Don’t cut at all unless its for a short amount of time. Only drop to around around mid-10% bf until plates close
Play sports you enjoy (and if ur ass then focus on other shi like school and studying or working a job, which is even better with a friend)
99% of above avg teens with an urge to look better can do this pretty easily, so if you did this, congrats, you not only maximized your puberty/development but also mental development and social skills and it'll put you ahead in looks/life as a result of that.
Dont even consider HGH or any subq shit if you arent doing most of these(except working out it hurts) :forcedsmile:


For those that also worry about height, look at your family. Compare your dad, mom, if u care enough then compare other relatives heights. Even ask your parents what height they were at your age. Put allat shit into chatgpt and ask it to estimate ur future height and it gives a decent idea of where youll end up.#hopepill i was 5’0 at 14, 5’4 at 15, now 5’10 with plates still open as I’m about to turn 18 (parents 6ft and 5'5). This is a pretty normal height and is abt average for a western european but still taller than I thought id ever be. Aromasin is also dirt cheap and oral so you can js do that if u wanna keep plates open for longer.

For those reading who are below the HLTN/MLTN area (i dont know why youre on this thread lol) who want to ascend hard, browsing here can actually help, it can save lives. But if you’re already like mtn+ chances are that rotting here just fills your brain with niche info that won’t matter like every bones name in the human skull. You’d be better off doing basic health stuff, talking to girls, building social skills, working a job, and focusing on school at least a little bit, challenge yourself. This is how you build a career and life which makes u money, and money is the freedom for professional cosmetic surgeries later if you still even still care.

tldr;
Start slaying w the looks you have and pursue whatever passion you have and lifemaxx, but dont listen to me, im sure you wont regret rotting away ur youth online on these forums for ur + 0.01 psl when youre on ur deathbed lol. :forcedsmile::forcedsmile:

edit: im not saying not to ascend if ur already like mtn at 14 or smth, im just saying if ur a young teenager if you just live healthier youll naturally reach htn most likely from just taking care of yourself and letting yourself develop in puberty right, there is no need for extreme measures or destroying your mental health, and doing so would prob result in a net loss
not a molecule
 
If you’re already decently attractive, very young (like 13-15) and can attract foids, and just want to look better, i guarantee you this forum won’t help you in most cases (unless you have some shitty haircut or like basically any falio ever that can be fixed easily but why would you even need org for that) All you will do is get slightly behind on ur social skills, waste your teenage time, and find a few insanely niche softmaxxes that ascend u +.01 PSL in total:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:


Heres some backround on my Experience with bp from a young age and being like above average in looks and js shy asf, so skip to bold text if u dgaf im gonna yap

I knew about org when I was 14 and was classically hamza/tatepilled:redpill: and I would browse org, even watched wheat waffles and other BP yts but never gave into BP or anything and I stayed redpilled normal. I only used org for super niche things like social media profile optimizing and methods for female followers, and general looksmax advice you'd find here you couldn't really find commonly anywhere else on mainstream platforms.

I never swallowed bp:blackpill: then bc that advice was ALL i needed for decent teen love bc I wasnt ugly or anything I was js on the internet a lot since covid and behind socially & js saw incels and shit as autists but more smart when it came to looks stuff than redpillers. Most advice I used isnt as rare anymore & is surface level like tiktok self improvement creator ahh advice. And keep in mind im 14/15 I didnt have money for shit like HGH (i was like 5'4 then too) anyway. I was already doing the basics like whitening strips, eating clean, invisalign, & nose breathing, which nowadays is basically surface level looksmaxxing, you do NOT need a forum to do that.
I didnt look at org for like 2 yrs until I got bad acne at 17, which nukes your appeal around women and I noticed people treat u noticeably worse and found that if youre naturally shy like me and dont have smth insane to compensate with (popularity is the only thing saving u statuspill) ur gonna have a rough time

After this I realized BP :blackpill:was true and completely swallowed it because I knew I already had a decent base.

So here is all you really need to mog more and set yourself up if you look good already

Sleep 8–9+hours. Nature punishes you in life and looks if you don’t.
Eat relatively clean and a lot of protein + dont tryhard it bc i guarantee u youll go to social events and eat some bs so js avoid wrecking your gut/skin.
Work out, but dont stress yourself out too much, low stress > gym any day
Clear up all ur potential fixable falios like acne (accutane mogs)
Do basic softmaxxes like whitening strips, braces/invisaline, experiment with ur hair style and what fits u the best, also do skincare if that counts as one
Focus in school and try to get decent grades (if ur lucky parents could buy u ascension tools or give u money to help u ascend)
Make friends and get social experience
Take basic supplements
Don’t cut at all unless its for a short amount of time. Only drop to around around mid-10% bf until plates close
Play sports you enjoy (and if ur ass then focus on other shi like school and studying or working a job, which is even better with a friend)
99% of above avg teens with an urge to look better can do this pretty easily, so if you did this, congrats, you not only maximized your puberty/development but also mental development and social skills and it'll put you ahead in looks/life as a result of that.
Dont even consider HGH or any subq shit if you arent doing most of these(except working out it hurts) :forcedsmile:


For those that also worry about height, look at your family. Compare your dad, mom, if u care enough then compare other relatives heights. Even ask your parents what height they were at your age. Put allat shit into chatgpt and ask it to estimate ur future height and it gives a decent idea of where youll end up.#hopepill i was 5’0 at 14, 5’4 at 15, now 5’10 with plates still open as I’m about to turn 18 (parents 6ft and 5'5). This is a pretty normal height and is abt average for a western european but still taller than I thought id ever be. Aromasin is also dirt cheap and oral so you can js do that if u wanna keep plates open for longer.

For those reading who are below the HLTN/MLTN area (i dont know why youre on this thread lol) who want to ascend hard, browsing here can actually help, it can save lives. But if you’re already like mtn+ chances are that rotting here just fills your brain with niche info that won’t matter like every bones name in the human skull. You’d be better off doing basic health stuff, talking to girls, building social skills, working a job, and focusing on school at least a little bit, challenge yourself. This is how you build a career and life which makes u money, and money is the freedom for professional cosmetic surgeries later if you still even still care.

tldr;
Start slaying w the looks you have and pursue whatever passion you have and lifemaxx, but dont listen to me, im sure you wont regret rotting away ur youth online on these forums for ur + 0.01 psl when youre on ur deathbed lol. :forcedsmile::forcedsmile:

edit: im not saying not to ascend if ur already like mtn at 14 or smth, im just saying if ur a young teenager if you just live healthier youll naturally reach htn most likely from just taking care of yourself and letting yourself develop in puberty right, there is no need for extreme measures or destroying your mental health, and doing so would prob result in a net loss
Great thread however :blackpill: is the truth. Would you rather people never discover the truth? When I found out I realized all of my success socially and romantically was because of the way I looked which cheered me up and still cheers me up to this day when people are friendly and nice and it made me care less about things that don't matter and instead embrace looking good
 
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Great thread however :blackpill: is the truth. Would you rather people never discover the truth? When I found out I realized all of my success socially and romantically was because of the way I looked which cheered me up and still cheers me up to this day when people are friendly and nice and it made me care less about things that don't matter and instead embrace looking good
Good point but socially I disagree

We aren't complete apes you can be like HLTN and still be popular, you just have to fit a certain archetype and be extremely NT & very confident, jestering also helps a bit but not self deprecation, also have MTN friends who are somewhat popular, i know this is yap but the social ladder is more so luck and the way u were raised and treated and how that interacts w how u look and ur physical appearance obv

You can't really be sub 5 and be "popular" unless you an anomaly but being average looks and popular is not that crazy and is doable, i know a lot of people on here are below average but seriously you don't need to be MTN to have friends

Anyways, what you said is true ig, if you ascended massively to get to your looks, like from LTN-M/HMTN, your ability to socialize w women is that of like an LTN.

I still think its easier to be redpilled/normie pilled because you don't have to care about only looking good and lookism and fully swallowing BP and realizing like love is just chemicals or niche shit like that. Most good looking normies know they look good bc theyre not insecure but they dont really focus on that, they don't cling to their looks as the one and only thing that determines if theyre worthy of love or general empathy from the world. However, if you struggled facially and ascended, clinging to your looks / genetics can be helpful to start you off because ur probably unconfident w/out them.

Maybe normies will swallow BP for dating, I can get by IRL talking to normies saying dating is just looks and "if ur chopped ur cooked" and I sound completely NT and clueless because lookism is actually quite common at least in the dating world. Think about the asap rocky interview w rihanna where they asked how he bagged her despite her being so much richer, he literally just said "im handsome"

This stuff is so normalized, at least a bit in dating, and also It feels so much better to know (Think) a girl loves you for YOU and not just your face and your ability to be somewhat NT. When I was redpilled I still acklowedged a guy who "thought" and behaved like me but looked better would have more success, thats honestly enough black pill for most people who look better than average. I was blackpilled a little I guess but when a girl liked me I never thought it was just because of my looks, and when I found out it essentially was bc of them at first it was uncomfortable, but its comforting and reduces stress knowing you could mess up and say a bunch of shit (i mean dont be a sperg or anything but like just be secure in saying what u say) and the only reason she doesnt like you or likes you is bc of your looks.

BP reduces stress esp if youre attractive already but I think even being able to know that it reduces stress (it took me a while to) makes you learn so much useless fucking info and niche stuff that doesnt matter. You're right ig but genuinely some people do NOT need blackpill, some people you see literally are fully softmaxxed and its useless to them.
 
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Good point but socially I disagree

We aren't complete apes you can be like HLTN and still be popular, you just have to fit a certain archetype and be extremely NT & very confident, jestering also helps a bit but not self deprecation, also have MTN friends who are somewhat popular, i know this is yap but the social ladder is more so luck and the way u were raised and treated and how that interacts w how u look and ur physical appearance obv

You can't really be sub 5 and be "popular" unless you an anomaly but being average looks and popular is not that crazy and is doable, i know a lot of people on here are below average but seriously you don't need to be MTN to have friends

Anyways, what you said is true ig, if you ascended massively to get to your looks, like from LTN-M/HMTN, your ability to socialize w women is that of like an LTN.

I still think its easier to be redpilled/normie pilled because you don't have to care about only looking good and lookism and fully swallowing BP and realizing like love is just chemicals or niche shit like that. Most good looking normies know they look good bc theyre not insecure but they dont really focus on that, they don't cling to their looks as the one and only thing that determines if theyre worthy of love or general empathy from the world. However, if you struggled facially and ascended, clinging to your looks / genetics can be helpful to start you off because ur probably unconfident w/out them.

Maybe normies will swallow BP for dating, I can get by IRL talking to normies saying dating is just looks and "if ur chopped ur cooked" and I sound completely NT and clueless because lookism is actually quite common at least in the dating world. Think about the asap rocky interview w rihanna where they asked how he bagged her despite her being so much richer, he literally just said "im handsome"

This stuff is so normalized, at least a bit in dating, and also It feels so much better to know (Think) a girl loves you for YOU and not just your face and your ability to be somewhat NT. When I was redpilled I still acklowedged a guy who "thought" and behaved like me but looked better would have more success, thats honestly enough black pill for most people who look better than average. I was blackpilled a little I guess but when a girl liked me I never thought it was just because of my looks, and when I found out it essentially was bc of them at first it was uncomfortable, but its comforting and reduces stress knowing you could mess up and say a bunch of shit (i mean dont be a sperg or anything but like just be secure in saying what u say) and the only reason she doesnt like you or likes you is bc of your looks.

BP reduces stress esp if youre attractive already but I think even being able to know that it reduces stress (it took me a while to) makes you learn so much useless fucking info and niche stuff that doesnt matter. You're right ig but genuinely some people do NOT need blackpill, some people you see literally are fully softmaxxed and its useless to them.
There are definitely some people who shouldn't take the blackpill, for example I know a guy who is friends with my friends through highschool and he has a subhuman face its for comparison he would be considered below a 2.5 on FaceIQ's chart however he's NT and a very hard worker went to EMT school and now lives in colorado and he's like 19-20 Virgin Kissless never had a GF type guy hes also a nice guy and is :bluepill:, If he ever took the blackpill it'd be determential to his mental and physical wellbeing he was never meant to continue his genetic lineage and is and is a total douchebag subconsciously because everyone mogs him. If he took the bp he'd waste his life to afford surgery. He is a great example of someone notably ugly having some an slightly above average social life. The reason I believe what I believe is because I have to in order to cope I'm super ND hmtn-lhtn and am bottom of the social ladder because of my behavior being more rigid and less respectful and too bold saying how I genuinely feel and what I genuinely believe (right wing shit hint the fuentes avi)

However, for me personally the blackpill is benefical gives me more character and drive to succeed in a world determined by luck I'm treated well and loved from the universe and people for my natural inherent characteristics and being which is how it should be if I became NT even better bp is law regardless of my emotions



I was redpilled by Hamza which im greatful for it I got a lot out of it and I think people being redpilled is an overall good for society blackpill isn't meant for the masses it's too accurate and deterministic for a world were delusions are not prohibited but rather encouraged and it stops lmtns and lower from ever trying
 
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There are definitely some people who shouldn't take the blackpill, for example I know a guy who is friends with my friends through highschool and he has a subhuman face its for comparison he would be considered below a 2.5 on FaceIQ's chart however he's NT and a very hard worker went to EMT school and now lives in colorado and he's like 19-20 Virgin Kissless never had a GF type guy hes also a nice guy and is :bluepill:, If he ever took the blackpill it'd be determential to his mental and physical wellbeing he was never meant to continue his genetic lineage and is and is a total douchebag subconsciously because everyone mogs him. If he took the bp he'd waste his life to afford surgery. He is a great example of someone notably ugly having some an slightly above average social life. The reason I believe what I believe is because I have to in order to cope I'm super ND hmtn-lhtn and am bottom of the social ladder because of my behavior being more rigid and less respectful and too bold saying how I genuinely feel and what I genuinely believe (right wing shit hint the fuentes avi)

However, for me personally the blackpill is benefical gives me more character and drive to succeed in a world determined by luck I'm treated well and loved from the universe and people for my natural inherent characteristics and being which is how it should be if I became NT even better bp is law regardless of my emotions



I was redpilled by Hamza which im greatful for it I got a lot out of it and I think people being redpilled is an overall good for society blackpill isn't meant for the masses it's too accurate and deterministic for a world were delusions are not prohibited but rather encouraged and it stops lmtns and lower from ever trying
Tbh politics are jester i like nick or whatever and also want to pursue a law based career so politics is a possibility but i feel like actually caring about them is just stressful its the same thing the masses do even NT normies care about that stuff and they dont even realize it stresses them out, i think we are in the same boat in terms of looks aswell but talking about politics at school is kinda jester, at least be in debate club or something where its appropriate to try and have influence and not just get called disrespectful or be seen as a weird class clown type shit

i also was redpilled by hamza and i kinda made another thread before talking about how if ur mtn u kinda only need redpill if any pill just being secure in ur looks and knowing that thatll get u women alone (ig thats kinda bp but not fully)
I think its too hard for some mtn normies who are already in relationships or have been w women to swallow the pill aswell, teen love blinds tf out of you and honestly that shit still blinds me to this day which idrc about
yes i WILL call you mommy while you play with my hair i dont care youre only doing it because i look good just keep doing it good foid
 
Tbh politics are jester i like nick or whatever and also want to pursue a law based career so politics is a possibility but i feel like actually caring about them is just stressful its the same thing the masses do even NT normies care about that stuff and they dont even realize it stresses them out, i think we are in the same boat in terms of looks aswell but talking about politics at school is kinda jester, at least be in debate club or something where its appropriate to try and have influence and not just get called disrespectful or be seen as a weird class clown type shit

i also was redpilled by hamza and i kinda made another thread before talking about how if ur mtn u kinda only need redpill if any pill just being secure in ur looks and knowing that thatll get u women alone (ig thats kinda bp but not fully)
I think its too hard for some mtn normies who are already in relationships or have been w women to swallow the pill aswell, teen love blinds tf out of you and honestly that shit still blinds me to this day which idrc about
yes i WILL call you mommy while you play with my hair i dont care youre only doing it because i look good just keep doing it good foid
No you don't get it, politics bleeds into my life In perfect world I would never have to speak about it think about it because ultimately there is one over arching super power calling all of the shots and every single civilian is less powerful then the next to stop it I'm known amongst my friends for being a deep talker. I'm sure there is plenty of things I simply don't pick up on socially that make me less on top of the social hierarchy but you should also know that they're as liberal as you can get politics bleeds into their life's you can physically see it, Also the raw organs and raw meat diet makes me seem so weird to them the guy I mentioned previously with the bad IPD won't stop talking about it every time we meet someone new then I have to defend my position which isolates me further JFL.

If you're MTN and only have the redpill chances are you will lose your looks as you age and be confused and depressed. but what's nice is BP is inherent. .org is the autism of BP an example of normal BP would be thinking you look better then someone else just because.

Teenage love is the best I had my fun with it and I never went submissive I tried my hardest to maintain and did for a year until I was so tired of the annoying bullshit and constant cheating allegations which were irrational I can calm her down 100 times but over 500 I lose it and can't keep up with my masculine persona and lose my ethos like a drained guy and everyone around me was unsympathetic which made me come to terms with genetic determinism. idk if all women are like that but next time if she's hot ill just get her pregnant so she can shut her fucking mouth
 
No you don't get it, politics bleeds into my life In perfect world I would never have to speak about it think about it because ultimately there is one over arching super power calling all of the shots and every single civilian is less powerful then the next to stop it I'm known amongst my friends for being a deep talker. I'm sure there is plenty of things I simply don't pick up on socially that make me less on top of the social hierarchy but you should also know that they're as liberal as you can get politics bleeds into their life's you can physically see it, Also the raw organs and raw meat diet makes me seem so weird to them the guy I mentioned previously with the bad IPD won't stop talking about it every time we meet someone new then I have to defend my position which isolates me further JFL.

If you're MTN and only have the redpill chances are you will lose your looks as you age and be confused and depressed. but what's nice is BP is inherent. .org is the autism of BP an example of normal BP would be thinking you look better then someone else just because.

Teenage love is the best I had my fun with it and I never went submissive I tried my hardest to maintain and did for a year until I was so tired of the annoying bullshit and constant cheating allegations which were irrational I can calm her down 100 times but over 500 I lose it and can't keep up with my masculine persona and lose my ethos like a drained guy and everyone around me was unsympathetic which made me come to terms with genetic determinism. idk if all women are like that but next time if she's hot ill just get her pregnant so she can shut her fucking mouth
nah thats genuinely so real, i tried to like be like so alpha and show no emotions but then i realized that shit does not matter its just your looks but its so hard to not just like cuddle with a girl or whatever while she scratches ur back like you are under her spell or something type shit i love foids so much but oh my god theyre so retarded i wish i could kill them all

For the politics shit though i get it, but in the end God always wins, you can think that if we dont fight back against globalism we will succumb to it and in a century everywhere except where people live will look like mumbai, dirty streets, wastelands, basically ur forced to stay inside. Maybe people will just live in their houses with VR Esex machines and sex dolls and all the instant pleasure they could get with their neurolinks in their brain and getting goyslop injected into them through underground sewage pipes while globalists get to fuck all the foids themselves and preserve their race. Even if all that happened I truly do think 1000 years later we will come back and win, there is thousands more years to come and these problems are not worth stressing about, both me and you have no control over them, but if you want to pursue politics honestly go for it. You claim HTN so thats something to boost your initial popularity among people.

Also yeah but I was still doing like some "looksmaxxing" and knew kinda what it was when I was redpilled but I never thought looks were EVERYTHING, I would've still aged as optimally as I could have with the resources I had even if I was a redpilled MTN.
Most redpillers talk abt looksmaxxing its so widespread js not injecting shit subq or like surgery they say thats bad lmao
 
If you’re already decently attractive, very young (like 13-15) and can attract foids, and just want to look better, i guarantee you this forum won’t help you in most cases (unless you have some shitty haircut or like basically any falio ever that can be fixed easily but why would you even need org for that) All you will do is get slightly behind on ur social skills, waste your teenage time, and find a few insanely niche softmaxxes that ascend u +.01 PSL in total:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:


Heres some backround on my Experience with bp from a young age and being like above average in looks and js shy asf, so skip to bold text if u dgaf im gonna yap

I knew about org when I was 14 and was classically hamza/tatepilled:redpill: and I would browse org, even watched wheat waffles and other BP yts but never gave into BP or anything and I stayed redpilled normal. I only used org for super niche things like social media profile optimizing and methods for female followers, and general looksmax advice you'd find here you couldn't really find commonly anywhere else on mainstream platforms.

I never swallowed bp:blackpill: then bc that advice was ALL i needed for decent teen love bc I wasnt ugly or anything I was js on the internet a lot since covid and behind socially & js saw incels and shit as autists but more smart when it came to looks stuff than redpillers. Most advice I used isnt as rare anymore & is surface level like tiktok self improvement creator ahh advice. And keep in mind im 14/15 I didnt have money for shit like HGH (i was like 5'4 then too) anyway. I was already doing the basics like whitening strips, eating clean, invisalign, & nose breathing, which nowadays is basically surface level looksmaxxing, you do NOT need a forum to do that.
I didnt look at org for like 2 yrs until I got bad acne at 17, which nukes your appeal around women and I noticed people treat u noticeably worse and found that if youre naturally shy like me and dont have smth insane to compensate with (popularity is the only thing saving u statuspill) ur gonna have a rough time

After this I realized BP :blackpill:was true and completely swallowed it because I knew I already had a decent base.

So here is all you really need to mog more and set yourself up if you look good already

Sleep 8–9+hours. Nature punishes you in life and looks if you don’t.
Eat relatively clean and a lot of protein + dont tryhard it bc i guarantee u youll go to social events and eat some bs so js avoid wrecking your gut/skin.
Work out, but dont stress yourself out too much, low stress > gym any day
Clear up all ur potential fixable falios like acne (accutane mogs)
Do basic softmaxxes like whitening strips, braces/invisaline, experiment with ur hair style and what fits u the best, also do skincare if that counts as one
Focus in school and try to get decent grades (if ur lucky parents could buy u ascension tools or give u money to help u ascend)
Make friends and get social experience
Take basic supplements
Don’t cut at all unless its for a short amount of time. Only drop to around around mid-10% bf until plates close
Play sports you enjoy (and if ur ass then focus on other shi like school and studying or working a job, which is even better with a friend)
99% of above avg teens with an urge to look better can do this pretty easily, so if you did this, congrats, you not only maximized your puberty/development but also mental development and social skills and it'll put you ahead in looks/life as a result of that.
Dont even consider HGH or any subq shit if you arent doing most of these(except working out it hurts) :forcedsmile:


For those that also worry about height, look at your family. Compare your dad, mom, if u care enough then compare other relatives heights. Even ask your parents what height they were at your age. Put allat shit into chatgpt and ask it to estimate ur future height and it gives a decent idea of where youll end up.#hopepill i was 5’0 at 14, 5’4 at 15, now 5’10 with plates still open as I’m about to turn 18 (parents 6ft and 5'5). This is a pretty normal height and is abt average for a western european but still taller than I thought id ever be. Aromasin is also dirt cheap and oral so you can js do that if u wanna keep plates open for longer.

For those reading who are below the HLTN/MLTN area (i dont know why youre on this thread lol) who want to ascend hard, browsing here can actually help, it can save lives. But if you’re already like mtn+ chances are that rotting here just fills your brain with niche info that won’t matter like every bones name in the human skull. You’d be better off doing basic health stuff, talking to girls, building social skills, working a job, and focusing on school at least a little bit, challenge yourself. This is how you build a career and life which makes u money, and money is the freedom for professional cosmetic surgeries later if you still even still care.

tldr;
Start slaying w the looks you have and pursue whatever passion you have and lifemaxx, but dont listen to me, im sure you wont regret rotting away ur youth online on these forums for ur + 0.01 psl when youre on ur deathbed lol. :forcedsmile::forcedsmile:

edit: im not saying not to ascend if ur already like mtn at 14 or smth, im just saying if ur a young teenager if you just live healthier youll naturally reach htn most likely from just taking care of yourself and letting yourself develop in puberty right, there is no need for extreme measures or destroying your mental health, and doing so would prob result in a net loss
ive been ldaring for way too long im cooked:feelsgood:
 
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