It is not the frame im talking about, is the widening of the clavicles or acromion. Definetly not bideltoid. If yes, do you perhaps know how much growth
How much?
dont know i widened my frame by just working out
ofc, bideltoid is the easiest way to widen your frame, but im curios in just biacromial, like clavicles
no the thing is i didnt train much back maybe a little shoulder working out will increase your frame and idk for sure but maybe clavicles also from my experience
clavicles cant widen from training, can help but not a lot. Clavicles grow 3-3.2mms/per year each from 16 to 19, prlly the value getting smaller each year. Idrk if hgh would be worth it for me, i have high end average clavicles, medium narrow waist but just not enough muscle
oh i went to small twink and now i have bigger clavicles and bidelt then most adults.if you dont have enough muscle maybe you should workout
the thing is my shoulder width to waist already is almost ideal, ive been working out but cutting for my first gym year, im locked in on gaining muscle now, i also feel like a twink even though im not, but idk i should just not stress about it and just focus on building muscle
i just wanna get as big as possible
whats ur bidelt
like 58cm or smth
how did u measure it? from the back from side delt to side delt or on a wall taking points of the side delts by somebody else and then measured with a band?
just with a ruler id say maybe a few cm smaller but im 14
i mean for reference bojack has a 54-56cm bidelt and hes huge, thats why im confused. im almost 17, shoulders are not very trained and i have a 55 bidelt measured from the back with the curvuture and all but my bidelt measured properly from delt to delt is 48-49
nah bro bojack doesnt even look that wide to me
lol have you seen his new tiktoks? yea hes flexed and whatever but he still looks pretty wide, especially with that fucking waist. at 5'4 if your clavs are really 40cm thats good but thwre might be measure errors
should i just get even bigger delts
only grows if your in puberty tho/growing
