Framemaxxing is brutally underrated

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Literally just framemaxx. Most of you guys highly overestimate how deterministic your bone structure is in terms of looking wide.
 
I mean muscle helps but if the bones just aren't there brootal
If you aren’t bottom 20th percentile I think you can achieve 90th percentile shoulder to waist ratio with diet and exercise
 

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