FRAMEPILL IS BRUTAL

120cm shoulder girth, am i manlet?
 
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Most of his halo is small waist and peanut skull, it makes him look wider than it is. IRL he will be mogged, put him next to any gymcel and he gets mogged
Look, i bet you don’t even know who David laid is. You maybe saw a couple videos of him on tikok or saw some shitty pics of him on this forum and make your conclusion as a result which doesn’t really make sense in the first place.

He is tall (6’2). Has good proportions, good limb to torso ratio. His muscle mass isn’t even that impressive, he just has a good skeletal structure.

You don’t take his scapula in consideration. Which is very impressive and his clavicles are above average. On top of that his waist size is close to ideal.
 
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bro unironically you might frame mog him, how tall are you?
I’m 6’3

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Look, i bet you don’t even know who David laid is. You maybe saw a couple videos of him on tikok or saw some shitty pics of him on this forum and make your conclusion as a result which doesn’t really make sense in the first place.

He is tall (6’2). Has good proportions, good limb to torso ratio. His muscle mass isn’t even that impressive, he just has a good skeletal structure.

You don’t take his scapula in consideration. Which is very impressive and his clavicles are above average. On top of that his waist size is close to ideal.
Part of his halo is that he has skinny wrists, small waists, small head. Thats why he has these crazy V tapers. His small wrists make his forearms look bigger so it looks good in pics but irl, he gets mogged by average gymcel zoom zoom.
 
you framemog him.
You know that frame is not about just shoulders scapula or clavicles right the waist is a part of it too so even if he has small waist halo it still counts
 
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You know that frame is not about just shoulders scapula or clavicles right the waist is a part of it too so even if he has small waist halo it still counts
not if your wearing clothes
 
Porncel, frame and body literally matters as face
It's the opposite lol. Men in porn are always ugly ogres with big frames
 
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That's not 98th percentile lol wtf. He looks kinda small framed
I think it's because my monitor is stretched, still has a good bidelt for the amount of muscle he has
 
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Laid's frame is mostly genetic, obviously you should gymmax for better frame but he already had 98th percentile base
I use to think framepill was true until I saw orc. All you really need is to have ur clavicles same width as ur hip/waist or ideally bigger. It doesn’t always have to be a natural V taper.

Notice how he had shit clavicles but after roiding he built cannon ball delts. You start to run into issues when ur waist/hip is just way to fucking big
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I use to think framepill was true until I saw orc. All you really need is to have ur clavicles same width as ur hip/waist or ideally bigger. It doesn’t always have to be a natural V taper.

Notice how he had shit clavicles but after roiding he built cannon ball delts. You start to run into issues when ur waist/hip is just way to fucking big
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No bruh he is "natty" :lul::lul::lul::lul::lul:
 
I use to think framepill was true until I saw orc. All you really need is to have ur clavicles same width as ur hip/waist or ideally bigger. It doesn’t always have to be a natural V taper.

Notice how he had shit clavicles but after roiding he built cannon ball delts. You start to run into issues when ur waist/hip is just way to fucking big
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He has twink arms and huge delts, literal gay fetish tier body looks bad
 
I use to think framepill was true until I saw orc. All you really need is to have ur clavicles same width as ur hip/waist or ideally bigger. It doesn’t always have to be a natural V taper.

Notice how he had shit clavicles but after roiding he built cannon ball delts. You start to run into issues when ur waist/hip is just way to fucking big
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don't even need a 1:1 ratio phil heath pretty sure is negative but had like such absurd delt growth, a super wide clavicle isn't super appealing and pushes uncanny
 
He has twink arms and huge delts, literal gay fetish tier body looks bad
he has pretty long arms most people even if hes roided, all natties with long arms have super shitty arms even me
 
Just copy the pfp of reformed theory to prove a point which was ridiculous in the first place.

View attachment 2959940 Yes very bad frame.

That’s just a bad picture you posted which isn’t representative for how he is in real life.

Just take a look at unfrauded youtube videos of him.
His waist is just small
 
he has pretty long arms most people even if hes roided, all natties with long arms have super shitty arms even me
Shit genetics, needs multiple cycles to look lanky af like those gay mens physiques
 
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Shit genetics, needs multiple cycles to look lanky af like those gay mens physiques
i mean thats just androgenic no such thing as genetics when your lean, look at any natty physique competition where the dude is 5'10 or above they all have super lanky physiques only at under 5'6 is where you can have compact arms thats why midgets always look so buff
 
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