framepill is the most brutal, shit frame is the worst failo a man can have AND I'M TIRED OF YOU FUCKING DENYING IT

dumbest shit I've ever read. no frame or dick will save you at 5'5. minimum height to be considered a man is 5'7
Minimum height nowadays is definitely 5’10, not 5’7. Anyone under 510 is manlet (me included, standing at 5’9.75”. I wear 1” lifts. I have a 5’9 friend of whom I have heard women frequently comment about his shortness. And he’s almost AVERAGE height.
 
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im 5'5, im told that im wide pretty often (though my current bidet is only 19" maybe its just relative to my height idk). I don't struggle to get attention from women and im not very fit atm. In the past when I have been fit It wasn't unusual to have my shoulders or arms touched pretty often.

Anyone giving arbitrary height cutoffs is making shit up for the fuck of it
 
The sky is blue. Yes thats what makes you look like a man and not a woman with a man face.... Imagine having this epiphany and truly thinking its profound.
Yeah tell that to the copers who still say muh height

Look there is even one in this thread:
Height is a more dimorphic trait than frame.

Dick>Height>Frame>Voice>Chin=Browridge
 
It doesn't matter if you have a Twink build as long as you are in 99% percentile for Face and Height :feelswhy:
Do you see what’s going on in here ? To compensate for shit frame u need 99 face and height and Even then u still look like shit
 
Yeah tell that to the copers who still say muh height

Look there is even one in this thread:
"Muhh frame!!!"
You Shouldnt Have Ben Stiller GIF

Nigga everyone knows the importance of frame but almost every time 99th percentile height trumps the 99th percentile frame. I'm simply not talking about a mere inch or two difference in height between two guys you fucking imbecile.
 
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This doesnt exist irl. The difference is 1 inch at most without gymcelling
Nope the right frame does exist i have that irl. But yes its super rare.
 

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"Muhh frame!!!"
You Shouldnt Have Ben Stiller GIF

Nigga everyone knows the importance of frame but almost every time 99th percentile height trumps the 99th percentile frame. I'm simply not talking about a mere inch or two difference in height between two guys you fucking imbecile.
mogs due to thicker bones and wider frame that comes with height. If the shorter guy has wide frame and thick bones he won't be mogged.
 
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"Muhh frame!!!"
You Shouldnt Have Ben Stiller GIF

Nigga everyone knows the importance of frame but almost every time 99th percentile height trumps the 99th percentile frame. I'm simply not talking about a mere inch or two difference in height between two guys you fucking imbecile.
It's more of a complicated question then "which one is better" its better to be really tall with an average frame rather than have a really good frame at an average height, but its also better to be short with a decent frame then be tall with a shit frame. You can get away being tall and soemwhat skinny or lanky, but if you have the shoulders of a woman, or kleinfelters, it is OVER. It doesnt mattter what your face looks like. Keinfelters cannot ascend
 
Reminder that there are foids with 17”+ biacromial breadths and 21”+ bideltoids. Be wide or be a cuck.
 
im 5'5, im told that im wide pretty often (though my current bidet is only 19" maybe its just relative to my height idk). I don't struggle to get attention from women and im not very fit atm. In the past when I have been fit It wasn't unusual to have my shoulders or arms touched pretty often.

Anyone giving arbitrary height cutoffs is making shit up for the fuck of it
>wide
>19 inch bidelt
 
You can not make this shit up. How do you not get it, YOU CAN LOOK LIKE A MAN and have sex appeal as a short guy BUT YOU LITERALLY CAN NOT LOOK LIKE A MAN WITH SHIT FRAME AT ANY HEIGHT. FRAME IS REQUIRED AS MALE to NOT BE PERCIEVED AS A NON THREAT CHILD.

and guess what ? fucking ftm trannies know this better than you guys and I saw people framemaxing on their forums. you fucking copers, keep coping with muh height meanwhile if u dont have frame u will look like a child and wont have any sex appeal. 'MANLETS' ARE NOT MANLET BECAUSE OF THEIR HEIGHT, IT IS BECAUSE OF THEIR SHIT FRAME (which usually comes because of their height). u can have insane sex appeal still at 5'5 if u have good frame and dick. FFS GUYS I FUCKING HAD IT STOP FUCKING COPING
U can't look manly with a shit frame, but u don't need to look manly in 2023. That's the point.

I see guys with legit 2d, feminine small frames with girls everywhere. Sure the girls tend to be less high E, but I also see some high E girls with these guys.

In Hong Kong I'd see guys with recessed jaws and convex ribcage and 15 inch bideltoid with 8s and 9s.

If u think frame matters ur living in the 80s man
 
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You can not make this shit up. How do you not get it, YOU CAN LOOK LIKE A MAN and have sex appeal as a short guy BUT YOU LITERALLY CAN NOT LOOK LIKE A MAN WITH SHIT FRAME AT ANY HEIGHT. FRAME IS REQUIRED AS MALE to NOT BE PERCIEVED AS A NON THREAT CHILD.

and guess what ? fucking ftm trannies know this better than you guys and I saw people framemaxing on their forums. you fucking copers, keep coping with muh height meanwhile if u dont have frame u will look like a child and wont have any sex appeal. 'MANLETS' ARE NOT MANLET BECAUSE OF THEIR HEIGHT, IT IS BECAUSE OF THEIR SHIT FRAME (which usually comes because of their height). u can have insane sex appeal still at 5'5 if u have good frame and dick. FFS GUYS I FUCKING HAD IT STOP FUCKING COPING
Does my frame pass?

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>wide
>19 inch bidelt
idk what to tell you, either people are lying about their width's or were I've been everyones been unusually twinky. Its rare (like 30% ish) for me to find non obese men who are wider then me regardless of their height
 
idk what to tell you, either people are lying about their width's or were I've been everyones been unusually twinky. Its rare (like 30% ish) for me to find non obese men who are wider then me regardless of their height
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1. you measure it wrong
2. you live in mumbai
3. you are deluded and think you framemog when you dont
 
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1. you measure it wrong
2. you live in mumbai
3. you are deluded and think you framemog when you dont
I used markers on a wall. I don't think it i'm just regularly told it by gym friends and some women especially if I wear a crew neck or turtle neck long sleeve.
 
Face is still king my frame is decently above average but I get dogshit where I live cuz of truecel face, people start ignoring me and stuff too
 
Face is still king my frame is decently above average but I get dogshit where I live cuz of truecel face, people start ignoring me and stuff too
post frame or cope
 
post frame or cope
My point was my frame is atleast average, height is also average, at that point I think face matters more you can’t expect to slay if you have a face like me even if you had top tier frame too most users in pms have told me it’s over for me/I’m really ugly some even ignored responding cuz I’m a truecel
 
My only hope now is to do roids to atleast have 99 percentile frame otherwise rope it is
 
It’s atleast average decently above was lying
 
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I tried to tailor a t shirt, jfl.
 
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@HighClassMaxing do u think 99 percentile frame can overcome ltn face? Or over? I’m 5’11 if you need height
 
@HighClassMaxing do u think 99 percentile frame can overcome ltn face? Or over? I’m 5’11 if you need height
if u have good coloring, skin and hair it's impossible to be under MTN so ur not LTN probably. u gotta be like extermely deformed.
 
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if u have good coloring, skin and hair it's impossible to be under MTN so ur not LTN probably. u gotta be like extermely deformed.
My colouring is shift, skin and hair are good but I’m def ltn no one rates me in pms they just start ignoring me and irl people tend To ignore me and I have 2 friends only :feelscry:
 
Minimum height nowadays is definitely 5’10, not 5’7. Anyone under 510 is manlet (me included, standing at 5’9.75”. I wear 1” lifts. I have a 5’9 friend of whom I have heard women frequently comment about his shortness. And he’s almost AVERAGE height.
What did they say about his height?
 

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