FRANKFURT PLANE CHIN MEASUREMENT WITH PIC

[Animepilled]

jfl ofc bro. lady gaga and praying to gandy

yea i know side is mostly cope, but we are all autists that want everything to be better. but damn man bimax is expensive af

take a loan, sell ur house or smth

 

[rares54]

take a loan, sell ur house or smth

jfl at sell ur house

homeless w bimax alr

but what do you think i can do for my front? main thing im focusing on is leanmaxxing rn, feel capped by the soft features. i need angularity

 

[Animepilled]

jfl at sell ur house

homeless w bimax alr

but what do you think i can do for my front? main thing im focusing on is leanmaxxing rn, feel capped by the soft features. i need angularity

nothing obvious to fix rly except for angularity as u said. and bimax will help with that.

 

[lurking truecel]

Here u go
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Looks good, but yea you could lose slighlty more fat i guess or if you start using aqua lynx or dhat you talked about

 

[Lefor3Laser]

His infras arent recessed, what in the actual

This forum lost made the word reccesed lose it's meaning, this guy isn't nowhere close to recessed, only his chin by few mm's but he looks good.

 

[rares54]

This forum lost made the word reccesed lose it's meaning, this guy isn't nowhere close to recessed, only his chin by few mm's but he looks good.

Mersi boss. Stiu ce zici . People here strive for perfection, im not tTHAT recessed, just my chin/lower jaw by a few mm like u said

 

[lurking truecel]

This forum lost made the word reccesed lose it's meaning, this guy isn't nowhere close to recessed, only his chin by few mm's but he looks good.

Yea, infra recession etc is stupid as hell, as people just say it whenever without reason

 

[rares54]

Yea, infra recession etc is stupid as hell, as people just say it whenever without reason

So i dont need infra implants?

I thought i could get away w fillers only since i do have eyebags most of the time

 

[lurking truecel]

So i dont need infra implants?

I thought i could get away w fillers only since i do have eyebags most of the time

depends if you wamt them or not

 

[rares54]

depends if you wamt them or not

I do want them ofc. But is it really worth it? Idk if its a skin issue or actual bone recession

 

[lurking truecel]

I do want them ofc. But is it really worth it? Idk if its a skin issue or actual bone recession

I mean everything is relative, the decision if something is worth or not is hard to say

 

[Lefor3Laser]

Mersi boss. Stiu ce zici . People here strive for perfection, im not tTHAT recessed, just my chin/lower jaw by a few mm like u said

Da pai idea este ca in poze nu întotdeauna o sa fie perfect ca in viata reala, cand iei poze indiferent daca esti 3 metri la distanta de telefon tot o sa fie angle-ul, lumina si lens distortion.

Idea e ca tu nu arati rau si nu prea cred ca o sa beneficiezi mult de cativa mm.

 

[Lefor3Laser]

Yea, infra recession etc is stupid as hell, as people just say it whenever without reason

They tend to forget that it's literally the soft tissue that does all the work, yes bone structure is important but afterwards the soft tissue is literally much more important.

 

[lurking truecel]

They tend to forget that it's literally the soft tissue that does all the work, yes bone structure is important but afterwards the soft tissue is literally much more important.

Yea true, soft tissue is everything almost

 

[rares54]

They tend to forget that it's literally the soft tissue that does all the work, yes bone structure is important but afterwards the soft tissue is literally much more important.

by soft tissue you mean believing lean enough to show off the bone structure right?

 

[rares54]

Da pai idea este ca in poze nu întotdeauna o sa fie perfect ca in viata reala, cand iei poze indiferent daca esti 3 metri la distanta de telefon tot o sa fie angle-ul, lumina si lens distortion.

Idea e ca tu nu arati rau si nu prea cred ca o sa beneficiezi mult de cativa mm.

asa e. in unele poze chiar arat ok fara recession, daca fac selfie chiar mi se duce barbia peste buza de jos. si uneori si cand fac cu 3 metri distanta, tot ok arata.

nu stiu daca aia 3 mm o sa imi schimbe viata

 

[Lefor3Laser]

by soft tissue you mean believing lean enough to show off the bone structure right?

No, many of the times the lower eyelid begin "bulgy" or the midface is flat is actually soft tissue rather than skeletal, i have this problem where my infras look recessed but if you take into consideration the facial depth you'll find out that if you get infras + fat grafts or soft tissue related surgery it will look uncanny.

So alot of the times when you hear infra implants recommended to almost everyone, it isn't the deal.

 

[Lefor3Laser]

asa e. in unele poze chiar arat ok fara recession, daca fac selfie chiar mi se duce barbia peste buza de jos. si uneori si cand fac cu 3 metri distanta, tot ok arata.

nu stiu daca aia 3 mm o sa imi schimbe viata

Nu face schimbari mari, mai bine iti pui bani pe altceva decat sa ti pui pe bimax.

 

[rares54]

No, many of the times the lower eyelid begin "bulgy" or the midface is flat is actually soft tissue rather than skeletal, i have this problem where my infras look recessed but if you take into consideration the facial depth you'll find out that if you get infras + fat grafts or soft tissue related surgery it will look uncanny.

So alot of the times when you hear infra implants recommended to almost everyone, it isn't the deal.

so what would be the case to do? if its not a skeletal issue, then maybe something subtle like fillers only?

 

[rares54]

Nu face schimbari mari, mai bine iti pui bani pe altceva decat sa ti pui pe bimax.

mersi

 

[Lefor3Laser]

so what would be the case to do? if its not a skeletal issue, then maybe something subtle like fillers only?

Eu ți-aș propune fat grafts dar acum nu prea stiu cat de mult este efectul(practic noi vorbim de soft tissue unde nu e precis cum va reactiona la fat graft)

Dar ți-aș propune fillers mai intai (chiar dacs poate sa migreze) sa vezi rezultatul, asta este cea mai buna opțiune din partea mea.

 

[rares54]

Eu ți-aș propune fat grafts dar acum nu prea stiu cat de mult este efectul(practic noi vorbim de soft tissue unde nu e precis cum va reactiona la fat graft)

Dar ți-aș propune fillers mai intai (chiar dacs poate sa migreze) sa vezi rezultatul, asta este cea mai buna opțiune din partea mea.

Mersi de recomandare. Dar daca se migreaza nu se intampla nimic nu? Adica gen, doar dispare filleru, nu intra in os sau ceva?

am citit despre debata fat graft vs filler, au pros si cons amandoua, dar uni zic sa incepi cu filler cum zici si tu.

 

[Lefor3Laser]

Mersi de recomandare. Dar daca se migreaza nu se intampla nimic nu? Adica gen, doar dispare filleru, nu intra in os sau ceva?

am citit despre debata fat graft vs filler, au pros si cons amandoua, dar uni zic sa incepi cu filler cum zici si tu.

Oricum poti sa il scoti daca migreaza, nu e asa de grav, de aia eu am propus filler ca sa fie ca un exemplu.

Si fillerul mai greu migreaza ca sa sti.

 

[rares54]

@thecel what do you think?

 

[iblamemygenes]

bro is ready to ascend with that song. btw bimax wont change the front. still worth for ur side imo

Can I send you a pic and tell me if I’m a candidate?

 

[BM7]

no frontal lobe.

 

[Nodal]

wtf why is every saying its rigth thats possibly the worst posture i have ever seen and and the fl isnt half correct jfl

 

[rares54]

wtf why is every saying its rigth thats possibly the worst posture i have ever seen and and the fl isnt half correct jfl

Holy shit i was so fat here

Yea its not correct should be tilted a little more down tbh

 

[rares54]

no frontal lobe.

Just fucking lol

U mean high radix that makes my frontal lobe look small in comparison

I have sunglasses in nice lighting

 

[Nodal]

Holy shit i was so fat here

Yea its not correct should be tilted a little more down tbh

damn bro so many larpers i was literally checking again and again if i were wrong jfl
never ask the forum ever again damn they so stupid

 

[rares54]

damn bro so many larpers i was literally checking again and again if i were wrong jfl
never ask the forum ever again damn they so stupid

Green line is correct

 

[Nodal]

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Green line is correct

i would say it should be a lil higher but it seems like your orbital is super low is that where your lower orbitals start cause that seems super low

 

[rares54]

i would say it should be a lil higher but it seems like your orbital is super low is that where your lower orbitals start cause that seems super low

Idk i go by eyebags lowest point usually

Ive gotten leaner since then

 

[rares54]

@Nodal

I pass it by like 1mm lol, im getting genio anyway so

 

[Nodal]

@Nodal

I pass it by like 1mm lol, im getting genio anyway so
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a sliding genio or a jumping genio?
but genio seems like a good idea but you have downward growth that one of the main falio imo

 

[rares54]

a sliding genio or a jumping genio?
but genio seems like a good idea but you have downward growth that one of the main falio imo

Balcony genio i was thinking, to get a nice mentolabial angle.

Thing is ab my downgrowth is it helps my front, it gives me a good face height because of taller chin

Also my face is already wide so it kinda balances that out, also my midface ratio is 0.98 so idk why it looks downgrown i can show front if u want

Anyways ive excluded bimax from my options its worthless for me since i already have above average forward growth, not top tier obv but good enough maxilla and bite so genio only option tbh

 

[Nodal]

it gives me a good face height because of taller chin

good for you buddy hope you the best

 

[rares54]

@Nodal i think i just cracked it lol

Take a look at this thread:

Downswung and Downgrown: The Difference Matters

A downswung mandible is when the mandibular plane angle (MPA) is steeply downslanted and the difference between the MPA and the occlusal plane angle (OPA) is small. In other words, both the jawline and the occlusal plane are nearly equally downslanting. The lower jaw appears “swung” down. A...

looksmax.org

I was wondering why I look downgrown if my occlusal plane is ideal, basically my chin chose to grow a lot during puberty, so it looks downslanted bc of a big chin like i just said

Perfect example of this would be josh mcgregor

Also probably why I looked more ’forward grown’ than downgrown at age 14, because my chin had not grown yet!
Me at 14:


A fix would be like @thecel says, shave down chin height and do gonial angle implant

Look what happens, it looks like sfs now but u get the point, no longer downgrown

 

[Nodal]

@Nodal i think i just cracked it lol

Take a look at this thread:

Downswung and Downgrown: The Difference Matters

A downswung mandible is when the mandibular plane angle (MPA) is steeply downslanted and the difference between the MPA and the occlusal plane angle (OPA) is small. In other words, both the jawline and the occlusal plane are nearly equally downslanting. The lower jaw appears “swung” down. A...

looksmax.org

I was wondering why I look downgrown if my occlusal plane is ideal, basically my chin chose to grow a lot during puberty, so it looks downslanted bc of a big chin like i just said

Perfect example of this would be josh mcgregor
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Also probably why I looked more ’forward grown’ than downgrown at age 14, because my chin had not grown yet!
Me at 14:


A fix would be like @thecel says, shave down chin height and do gonial angle implant
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Look what happens, it looks like sfs now but u get the point, no longer downgrown

gonial implant is more that enough imo but i didn't tell you since i think you shouldn't care this much about your size only get the implant if it create a visible desired result for frontal profile

idk since i haven't seen your front besides you don't want such huge changes people will notice unless a huge falio from the front don't bother

also rather than talking to me in this thread you can pm anytime i will respond but not immediately tho

 

[rares54]

gonial implant is more that enough imo but i didn't tell you since i think you shouldn't care this much about your size only get the implant if it create a visible desired result for frontal profile

idk since i haven't seen your front besides you don't want such huge changes people will notice unless a huge falio from the front don't bother

also rather than talking to me in this thread you can pm anytime i will respond but not immediately tho

I definitely need more flaring from the front so i think it will look mogger.

I replied here bc ppl don’t know the difference between downgrowth and downswing

I didn’t either until 5 minutes ago lol