FULL RAW MEAT GUIDE [HIGH EFFORT + SCIENCE]

[coastal]

What you've done is conflate multiple different mechanisms into one absolutist conclusion. I already said cooking can reduce heat-sensitive nutrients, manipulate protein structures and reduce vitamins. Humans are not immune to Salmonella, campylobacter, E. coli, parasites... just because an animal is grass fed.

nigger. it's in the 5. SAFETY part of the thread. read

You also don't understand thermodynamics. Human metabolism still has to obey energy balance principles. Don't even attempt to go down this route with me, you will embarrass yourself child.

i do, i did physics. and we dont explode out food which is how calories are calculated. we break our food down biochemically
"you will embarrass yourself child" jfl

The discussion we should be having is:
pathogen risk
digestibility
nutrient retention
food quality
preparation method
long term sustainability

it's all in the thread

Not you attempting to cherry pick and imply I claim "more calories" you're not just measuring calories inside of food.. How much energy can your body actually extract and absorb from it? Cooking breaks crystalline starch structures and increases enzyme access. It also dramatically increases glucose availability. Why do you think cooked potatoes and rice provide more usable energy than raw equivalents.

bioavailability is also in the thread. yes you need to cook starches wow this is a raw meat thread. are we forrel rn?

This is why humans evolved, smaller guts, larger brains compared to great apes.

prove it

Cooking effectively externalizes part of digestion.

burning your food and creating carcinogens doesnt make it more digestible i have a point in my thread on digestion and raw meat outperforms cooked meat by up to 2x. please read the thread

That still doesn't mean that cooking all food is healthier, or that all raw food is worse, or that nutrient loss doesn't matter, it just means that raw calories and absorbed useable calories are not the same concept.

please read my methodology below the nutrient loss part

 

[GODFATHER_0]

made my day thank you homie

not sure if i can get botb for nutrition guides tho

They do give botb for nutrition guides I’ve already seen some over there . Btw what do you think about raw chicken breast? Best thread I saw this month btw

 

[LaMuerta]

US

idk , im French and I just to the nearest farm and that it.

 

[coastal]

I mean like farms you can order good quality meat online

hmm no idea sorry bhai, im not in the US and i buy my meat from local farms

 

[coastal]

They do give botb for nutrition guides I’ve already seen some over there . Btw what do you think about raw chicken breast? Best thread I saw this month btw

raw chicken breast is awesome, i have a small point about lean meat toxicity in my thread. white meat also digests a bit easier

as long as the chicken was pasture raised and fed good food chicken breast is on the same lvl as beef imo (they have slightly diff nutrient profiles but it's a normal SD)

thanks for egoboosting me feels so good

 

[LaMuerta]

They do give botb for nutrition guides I’ve already seen some over there . Btw what do you think about raw chicken breast? Best thread I saw this month btw

if u find highest quality possible ye valid, although not that much fat for hormone creation

 

[LaMuerta]

US

I think liver king as an online website

 

[LityLMF]

mirin but water at the same time

 

[coastal]

although not that much fat for hormone creation

tbh i found it much easier to get my fats from raw butter and milk, i just do 1-2 aajones' lube formulas daily and get my fats that way

it's pretty hard to get to a good saturated fat level even if you eat lots of fatty steaks

 

[coastal]

mirin but water at the same time

"water"

 

[GODFATHER_0]

raw chicken breast is awesome, i have a small point about lean meat toxicity in my thread. white meat also digests a bit easier

as long as the chicken was pasture raised and fed good food chicken breast is on the same lvl as beef imo (they have slightly diff nutrient profiles but it's a normal SD)

thanks for egoboosting me feels so good

I live in India I don’t think they mention this on the pack and the butchers give shity cheap meat I think I need to source it from a farm

 

[LaMuerta]

tbh i found it much easier to get my fats from raw butter and milk, i just do 1-2 aajones' lube formulas daily and get my fats that way

it's pretty hard to get to a good saturated fat level even if you eat lots of fatty steaks

Egg yolk and cheese come for the clutch

 

[LityLMF]

"water"

it is water, surface knowledge and mostly everyone on this sub has searched or heard about the info on this thread, good thread nevertheless

 

[LaMuerta]

I live in India I don’t think they mention this on the pack and the butchers give shity cheap meat I think I need to source it from a farm

 

[coastal]

it is water, surface knowledge and mostly everyone on this sub has searched or heard about the info on this thread, good thread nevertheless

some guy is trying to prove that we evolved from cooking meat and u still think people know all that

and i wouldnt say it's surface knowledge, i went pretty in depth on the actual science behind it

fair tho idrc

 

[LaMuerta]

it is water, surface knowledge and mostly everyone on this sub has searched or heard about the info on this thread, good thread nevertheless

we got a nigger in here, that 1 trust the jews and 2 think that raw meat is dangerous.

so not that much common sense after all

 

[LityLMF]

we got a nigger in here, that 1 trust the jews and 2 think that raw meat is dangerous.

so not that much common sense after all

some people like being brainwashed, still common knowledge

 

[LaMuerta]

some people like being brainwashed, still common knowledge

btw .

Basic question but does any here eat glucose ?

if yes I will find you

idk why I replied to your post lil bro

 

[coastal]

we got a nigger in here, that 1 trust the jews and 2 think that raw meat is dangerous.

so not that much common sense after all

dude yes, i do debates on discord for fun from time to time and im telling you 99.99% of people dont know SHIT about nutrition. in 4 months i met a single person who eats raw meat, everyone else was saying the same shit this guy is

ik for me this also sounds like common sense like nigga you lit destroy your food over a fire for no reason wtf

but people are so brainwashed nowadays they'll need this thread

 

[wii]

dnr bookmarked mirin bhai

 

[coastal]

some people like being brainwashed, still common knowledge

and out of those 5% 99% eat only sushi and steak tartar sometimes. objectively not common knowledge

 

[LityLMF]

some guy is trying to prove that we evolved from cooking meat and u still think people know all that

and i wouldnt say it's surface knowledge, i went pretty in depth on the actual science behind it

fair tho idrc

you right, ig that in the mainstream side of things carnivore and raw meat is indeed not common knowledge

 

[bosnian]

great stuff, will read later

 

[coastal]

btw .

Basic question but does any here eat glucose ?

if yes I will find you

idk why I replied to your post lil bro

i eat fruit sometimes, feel much better on fruit than i do on full on carnivore. + better T3 T4 and more energy

 

[coastal]

you right, ig that in the mainstream side of things carnivore and raw meat is indeed not common knowledge

and even here im sure less than 5% of people eat raw meat

probably closer to 1-2% max

 

[coastal]

@TheBWCKing read this thread, im not gonna hate on you coz you dont like minorities but there's lots of actually good arguments for raw meat consumption

 

[LaMuerta]

i eat fruit sometimes, feel much better on fruit than i do on full on carnivore. + better T3 T4 and more energy

https://ezgif.com/save/ezgif-469c906bf38c9439.webm

 

[coastal]

im such a disgusting chopped bloated sugar addict

 

[LaMuerta]

i eat fruit sometimes, feel much better on fruit than i do on full on carnivore. + better T3 T4 and more energy

i wanted to send a funny gif but didn't work

 

[LaMuerta]

im such a disgusting chopped bloated sugar addict

read my thread on leptin will make u stop eating glucose I hope

 

[coastal]

read my thread on leptin will make u stop eating glucose I hope

sugar is good for you, like 99% of fruit glucose is used up by the body and it's a preferable short term every source imo

will read

 

[GalacticHero]

What benefits have you had from eating raw meat?

Do you feel smarter? Increased muscle mass? Feeling good and healthy? Fixing chronic issues?

 

[LaMuerta]

sugar is good for you, like 99% of fruit glucose is used up by the body and it's a preferable short term every source imo

will read

fructose

 

[LaMuerta]

What benefits have you had from eating raw meat?

Do you feel smarter? Increased muscle mass? Feeling good and healthy? Fixing chronic issues?

u nailed it bro , that's it

 

[coastal]

What benefits have you had from eating raw meat?

Do you feel smarter? Increased muscle mass? Feeling good and healthy? Fixing chronic issues?

wouldnt say i feel smarter but i do have somewhat less brain fog

feeling super mega good, better than ever. also much stronger, at my peak gym going time i could do 25 pullups or so and now i do 20 even tho i wasnt going to the gym at all for the last year. if not my diet i'd do like 5 max jfl

i didnt really fix any issues coz i didnt have them to begin with so cant give a testimony on that

 

[coastal]

fructose

it has both and glucose is what's being used up by your cells for energy

 

[LaMuerta]

it has both and glucose is what's being used up by your cells for energy

yes but glucose build up leptin resistance .

 

[lnceIs]

dnr, why would u need a guide

 

[GalacticHero]

u nailed it bro , that's it

Have u also had these benefits from raw diet?

 

[coastal]

dnr, why would u need a guide

coz it's cool and shi and with studies

 

[LaMuerta]

Have u also had these benefits from raw diet?

yes, from my perspective the best benefits is that you will think outside the box and act on it.

 

[LaMuerta]

yes, from my perspective the best benefits is that you will think outside the box and act on it.

maybe higher test doing that idk

 

[Deleted member 361355]

which country raises and produces the best raw meat?

 

[LaMuerta]

dnr, why would u need a guide

some fella, in there think that raw meat is harmful for you .

 

[LaMuerta]

which country raises and produces the best raw meat?

not india for sure.

every country as good quality meat just find it.

 

[GalacticHero]

Great thank you guys for sharing your experience, however how can you actually eat it? I tried raw liver and couldn’t tolerate the taste and I couldn’t chew it.

 

[GermanSubmarine]

### FULL RAW MEAT GUIDE ###​

by me!! @coastal​

This is the most complete science-backed guide on meat, with:
human anatomy, overall nutrition, raw Vs cooked, digestion & safety

i also didn't go too far into detail to keep this normie friendly


1. WHY RAW?
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The mainstream consensus on germ theory, cooking and pasteurization mainly came out of "muh parasite" paranoia fueled by horrible conditions animals were placed in after the industrial revolution. But humans are designed to consume raw nutrients in their natural state, not food destroyed by fire.

Real science on human digestion anatomy:
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Digestion in carnivores is based on stomach acidity, while herbivores use fermentation and gut bacteria to extract nutrients from normally indigestible fibre. And our lower stomach pH is actually closer to scavengers like hyenas than to carnivores like lions, which shows our innate ability to consume and properly digest RAW MEAT

I'll touch on bioavailability and other reasons for why raw is better in the next section, but just the stomach acidity should be enough to show that we're adapted to eat meat with no issues even if it's rotten, since our gut acidity will neutralize the "harmful" bacteria.

2. RAW VS COOKED​

Over the last 10 years there's been numerous cooked/raw carnivore influencers, each with their "science" on what's better. So let's break down the actual macro & micronutrient profiles of both ways to consume meat.

Below is a full NUTRIENT LOSS breakdown based on sited studies and adjusted to a regular sized beef steak cooked on a pan for 15 minutes at medium-high heat:
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Spoiler: My methodology for finding the loss value

The nutrient loss percentages in my table were determined using a standardized True Retention (TR) method + bioavailability, which isolates the actual chemical degradation of nutrients from simple water loss, then multiplies it by its digestibility percentage value. This approach is the accepted scientific standard for assessing the impact of heat on food.

It works by first calculating the Cooking Yield (CY) - the weight of the cooked food divided by the weight of the raw food. for example, if 100g of raw meat weighs 70g after cooking the CY is 0.70. This accounts for moisture loss, which would otherwise make cooked food appear more nutrient-dense per gram than it actually is.

Once CY is established, the TR is calculated using a formula that factors out the physical loss of water and fat, leaving the actual nutrient loss caused by heat degradation and leaching into cooking liquids.

After calculating the molecule (!!!) loss, i multiplied the amount of new molecules by their current bioavailability value to determine how much of those will actually get digested:
Final Retention (%) = ((Nutrient per g cooked * g cooked food) * cooked bioavailability) / ((Nutrient per g raw * g raw food) * raw bioavailability) * 100

Therefore, a loss percentage in the table (e.g., 30%) means that for every 100 digestible molecules of a nutrient present in raw meat, only 70 remained as digestible after cooking, even accounting for water loss. These values are averages derived from meta-analyses of multiple studies, so a 10% SD range can be present.

Spoiler: Studies used

Protein and amino-acids:
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32089140 pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30204886

Heme iron and minerals:
agris.fao.org/records/65dea00e6eef00c2cea0cb67 doi.org/10.1016/0955-2863(95)00166-2 pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22063048

Fat soluble vitamins:
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12470217 cir.nii.ac.jp/crid/1361137043703481728

B group vitamins:
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17002590

+ more studies from less known publishers i used for better range for my overall data.

3. DIGESTION
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Raw meat digests much easier, causes less weight in your stomach and less gut problems. Since the protein structure isn't destroyed by heat, our body (which are adapted to breaking down meat) can digest it easier than destroyed unnatural cooked meat

In human studies, 100g of beef products evacuate the stomach in an average of 2 hours and 35 minutes, while for cooked meat this number can be up to 5h+. Cooking meat also coagulates proteins. Your body then has to fight to break these hard clumps apart. Raw meat retains its natural enzyme activity and cell structure, making it MUCH easier for your stomach acid to digest it.

For better digestion you can also Pate your meat (aka chop finely/use a blender/meat dringer). A 1981 radionuclide gastric emptying study in Gastroenterology tracked how different particle sizes of liver emptied from the human stomach simultaneously:View attachment 5022227

Spoiler: Study

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/264605

Why this Happens? (Protein denaturalisation)

High-temperature cooking causes proteins to denature and aggregate. These aggregates are less accessible to pepsin (the stomach's primary protein-digesting enzyme) and require significantly more time to break down

Spoiler: Study

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Overall digestion comparison:
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4. SOURCING
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Grass fed + pasture-raised is the best, but grain fed meat is honestly NOT AS BAD as people make it out to be (even tho still not ideal). Since most toxins are stored in fatty tissue (fat, organs, brain, bone marrow), eating lean meat even from the store is actually pretty safe.

Also you wont have to worry about heavy metals, since in raw meat over 98% of them are completely indigestible. In comparison, in cooked meat you'll be able to DIGEST up to 95% of the toxins and heavy metals, since the fat it's stored in is broken down and denatured.

Best way to source is from a local farm/butcher, they'll also have unique cuts you wont be able to easily find in the store: organs, bones (for broth), fat (for home made beef tallow to cook with) etc.

5. SAFETY ​

Most things you hear about raw meat is just fear mongering. Even tho there are some legit concerns, most of it just comes down to meat quality and freshness.

Salmonella, E. coli, Campylobacter:
they exist, but for a metabolically healthy individual with strong stomach acid (pH 1.5–2.5), most of these pathogens are destroyed straight on contact. And the ones who get sick from it are almost always traced back to processed/commercially prepared meats and poultry, not fresh cuts of raw meat from a high-quality source.

Most of us already have a string of E. coli or some other "harmful" stuff inside of us, because those are just groups of microorganisms. They're not harmful by themselves if you're a healthy person with good stomach acidity

Also the entire germ theory is disproven by it's own methodology, since 70%+ of cases of "infection" with for example Salmonella is without symptoms which directly contradicts the bar for proving it causes disease. Basically it's a bunch of correlation studies jfl.

Parasites:
Certain parasites like toxoplasma gondii and trichinella are risks with pork and wild game. These are mitigated by quality control and common sense (dont eat raw fatty meat from walmart).

CONCLUSION!!! ​

Cooking meat is a coping mechanism for low quality meat and a low t digestive system that's been so fucked by our diets we cant eat what we're supposed to

Obviously do your research too, because this topic is still highly debated, but the science on the most important issues is clear as day. Cooking destroys macro and micronutrients, minerals, vitamins, denatures proteins, and basically robs you of the full biological potential of your food.

Raw meat is healthier, with no carcinogens, more bioavailable nutrients and less heavy metal toxicity potential. And most of the "muh bacteria" "muh parasites" is based on correlation studies, usually with no to low causal evidence

RAW IS LAW. Stay healthy and you wont have to spend 1000s of $$ fixing what could've been prevented by your habits.

Yes, a good diet wont fix your recessed bones, but you'll be happier, have more energy, live longer and just overall have a better life. + free health indicators

This was a very high effort thread i spent 6+ hours writing, thanks for reading i hope you liked the pepes.

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Mirin the high effort. Will send it to my lil bro. He's 15 and is obsessed with raw meat. Cant defend the diet in his friendgroup though. They think their smart by sending those normie insta videos of 30yo cuck talking bout sum raw meat deaths

 

[coastal]

Mirin the high effort. Will send it to my lil bro. He's 15 and is obsessed with raw meat. Cant defend the diet in his friendgroup though. They think their smart by sending those normie insta videos of 30yo cuck talking bout sum raw meat deaths

imagine your lil bro sends an org thread as an argument for raw meat, that would be so dark triad bpmaxxed

but yea send it to him, i sited good studies so he's gonna look smart asf

 

[coastal]

Great thank you guys for sharing your experience, however how can you actually eat it? I tried raw liver and couldn’t tolerate the taste and I couldn’t chew it.

raw organs are only tasty from very high quality sources, just raw muscle meat tastes great. try making your steaks blue rare and see if you enjoy it. also the texture of raw meat is pretty unique so it might take some time for you to get used to the taste

 

[GermanSubmarine]

imagine your lil bro sends an org thread as an argument for raw meat, that would be so dark triad bpmaxxed

but yea send it to him, i sited good studies so he's gonna look smart asf

Yea, I mean reverse engeniering your thread.
He's just reading aajonus vonderplanitz posts. That dude died in 2012.
Not an high IQ source...
Will make him analyse your thread