Full Roid Stack + Ancillaries at 16

[Aldi]

been spam posting this lately but whatever

Here's my updated stack + ancilarries @ 16 years old

Are there any other protections I should be taking for health? (PS: I literally cant source RU its fucking impossible)

Goal: Dimorphism, Bones - And maybe a bit of muscle

250 test c
70 then
Retatruride
Anastrozole (maybe)



Finasteride
HCG
fish oil
melatonin / zopiclone

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

been spam posting this lately but whatever

Here's my updated stack + ancilarries @ 16 years old

Are there any other protections I should be taking for health? (PS: I literally cant source RU its fucking impossible)

Goal: Dimorphism, Bones - And maybe a bit of muscle

250 test c
70 then
Retatruride
Anastrozole (maybe)



Finasteride
HCG
fish oil
melatonin / zopiclone

shit cycle

300 Test
12.5 mg of Anavar, then go to tren after that.
skip the finasteride; you need dht at 16 you will be small dwarf cocked forever

then keep with hcg and mela but add astaxanthin and start cognitive support early for the tren

 

[ToxinIV]

been spam posting this lately but whatever

Here's my updated stack + ancilarries @ 16 years old

Are there any other protections I should be taking for health? (PS: I literally cant source RU its fucking impossible)

Goal: Dimorphism, Bones - And maybe a bit of muscle

250 test c
70 then
Retatruride
Anastrozole (maybe)



Finasteride
HCG
fish oil
melatonin / zopiclone

I feel like it'd make a little more sense to run reta after cycle? Im not a coach or anything but ive seen many people like to bulk and then cut so you maximize on muscle, but to be fair your goal was just a small bit of muscle so Im not sure, thats just how I'd do it.

 

[Aldi]

shit cycle

300 Test
12.5 mg of Anavar, then go to tren after that.
skip the finasteride; you need dht at 16 you will be small dwarf cocked forever

then keep with hcg and mela but add astaxanthin and start cognitive support early for the tren

so ur saying i shouldnt use anything for hair? and how ling should i run anavar before running test + how long should i run test before running anavar

bet, cognitive support early on sounds pretty calm actually. what ab the reta btw?

 

[Aldi]

I feel like it'd make a little more sense to run reta after cycle? Im not a coach or anything but ive seen many people like to bulk and then cut so you maximize on muscle, but to be fair your goal was just a small bit of muscle so Im not sure, thats just how I'd do it.

Apparently reta is just good for managing sides on cycle eg liver fat

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

so ur saying i shouldnt use anything for hair? and how ling should i run anavar before running test + how long should i run test before running anavar

bet, cognitive support early on sounds pretty calm actually. what ab the reta btw?

Ret is fine insulin sense is good and decreases visceral fat; it is also good for the brain

ru for the hair? Avoid inhibiting DHT because youll need it till 18-19 but as you are eligible to take it take dut

8-12 weeks is fine id say going from 12.5 to 17.5 within 3-4 weeks is okay (end at 25) and add more liver support

 

[Aldi]

shit cycle

300 Test
12.5 mg of Anavar, then go to tren after that.
skip the finasteride; you need dht at 16 you will be small dwarf cocked forever

then keep with hcg and mela but add astaxanthin and start cognitive support early for the tren

n would anavar still be good for my goals?

 

[jw.qsg]

been spam posting this lately but whatever

Here's my updated stack + ancilarries @ 16 years old

Are there any other protections I should be taking for health? (PS: I literally cant source RU its fucking impossible)

Goal: Dimorphism, Bones - And maybe a bit of muscle

250 test c
70 then
Retatruride
Anastrozole (maybe)



Finasteride
HCG
fish oil
melatonin / zopiclone

No tren, not worth it first cycle, 280mg test and 20var or 200mast, do tren next blast

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

n would anavar still be good for my goals?

yeah

u do know this will fuse ur plates early tho right

 

[Aldi]

Ret is fine insulin sense is good and decreases visceral fat; it is also good for the brain

ru for the hair? Avoid inhibiting DHT because youll need it till 18-19 but as you are eligible to take it take dut

8-12 weeks is fine id say going from 12.5 to 17.5 within 3-4 weeks is okay (end at 25) and add more liver support

Bet, i think ill just skip inhibiting DHT if thats the case.

What liver support should I add?
Here's how its looking so far

250 test c
Anavar | First 10 weeks
70 tren | After 10 weeks
Retatrutide
Anastrozole (maybe)

HCG
fish oil
melatonin / zopiclone

 

[Aldi]

yeah

u do know this will fuse ur plates early tho right

I couldnt care less tbh im already 6'0 ill take it gladly

 

[Aldi]

No tren, not worth it first cycle, 280mg test and 20var or 200mast, do tren next blast

isnt tren and test a really good mix for facial growth though? thats what i've heard. but ive also heard absolute horror stories with tren so yeah.

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

Bet, i think ill just skip inhibiting DHT if thats the case.

What liver support should I add?
Here's how its looking so far

250 test c
Anavar | First 10 weeks
70 tren | After 10 weeks
Retatrutide
Anastrozole (maybe)

HCG
fish oil
melatonin / zopiclone

Skip Anastro and go. Aromasin—you'll regret not adding joint support, and when E2 is that low, you'll suffer (jfl, E2 crashing retards on here, thinking it's good). For slow closure you need to titrate slowly.

TUDCA, NAC, Injectable Glut is good.

300 test cycle
anavar 12.5, 17.5 week 4, 25 week 6
reta
aromasin based on e2 in bloodwork

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

isnt tren and test a really good mix for facial growth though? thats what i've heard. but ive also heard absolute horror stories with tren so yeah.

The truth about steroids and peptides affecting bones/height

There are multiple flaws in the logic behind peptides and AAS remodelling and/or growing facial bones. I covered some of these flaws in this thread already, consider this the complete overview. To be specific, this isn't an anti-roiding thread. Roiding should be done if desiring a body halo...

looksmax.org

 

[jw.qsg]

isnt tren and test a really good mix for facial growth though? thats what i've heard. but ive also heard absolute horror stories with tren so yeah.

I'm sure it is but I promise you if you've never run anabolic before tren is like hopping in a lambo before you've even learnt how to drive a car, shit will fuck you up, once you know ur shit, have done proper research, not coming from randoms on . Org then u can look into it but I don't think you'll last, if you've done proper research you'll find more niche agents that will fit ur needs better eg. Osteoporosis medication etc

 

[Aldi]

Skip Anastro and go. Aromasin—you'll regret not adding joint support, and when E2 is that low, you'll suffer (jfl, E2 crashing retards on here, thinking it's good). For slow closure you need to titrate slowly.

TUDCA, NAC, Injectable Glut is good.

300 test cycle
anavar 12.5, 17.5 week 4, 25 week 6
reta
aromasin based on e2 in bloodwork

Can i just take TUDCA + NAC capsules? + Aromasin

And HCG, fish oil, creatine and melatonin?

 

[jw.qsg]

Skip Anastro and go. Aromasin—you'll regret not adding joint support, and when E2 is that low, you'll suffer (jfl, E2 crashing retards on here, thinking it's good). For slow closure you need to titrate slowly.

TUDCA, NAC, Injectable Glut is good.

300 test cycle
anavar 12.5, 17.5 week 4, 25 week 6
reta
aromasin based on e2 in bloodwork

Agreed, might not need aromasin though, could pin everyday and would likely not be worth it, then again, depends on bloodwork

 

[Aldi]

The truth about steroids and peptides affecting bones/height

There are multiple flaws in the logic behind peptides and AAS remodelling and/or growing facial bones. I covered some of these flaws in this thread already, consider this the complete overview. To be specific, this isn't an anti-roiding thread. Roiding should be done if desiring a body halo...

looksmax.org

Even if the bones dont come, the dimo is fine with me

 

[Molecular69]

so ur saying i shouldnt use anything for hair? and how ling should i run anavar before running test + how long should i run test before running anavar

bet, cognitive support early on sounds pretty calm actually. what ab the reta btw?

prob won't experience a lot of hairless off of this cycle

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

Even if the bones dont come, the dimo is fine with me

Yeah, you'll shred down, and I still debate bones are possible ONLY IF. and only if you have catch-up growth with unfused facial bones,

For example, a past undereating kid with open plates blasts and grows to his full potential quickly.

 

[jw.qsg]

Even if the bones dont come, the dimo is fine with me

Also Howcome ur taking hcg, do u not wanna cruise on test after?

 

[Aldi]

Also Howcome ur taking hcg, do u not wanna cruise on test after?

Would cruising be better? I'm genuinely not sure.

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

Also Howcome ur taking hcg, do u not wanna cruise on test after?

pct is easier

 

[Aldi]

Yeah, you'll shred down, and I still debate bones are possible ONLY IF. and only if you have catch-up growth with unfused facial bones,

For example, a past undereating kid with open plates blasts and grows to his full potential quickly.

Yeah, that fully makes sense.

Also, Anavar is fully out of stock at my source... Is there anything else I can run?

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

Yeah, that fully makes sense.

Also, Anavar is fully out of stock at my source... Is there anything else I can run?

uhh I mean id just start the cycle rn at 300 test with ret

if im gonna be honest, whats meal plan looking like? this all goes to waste if ur undereating tbh

 

[Molecular69]

Would cruising be better? I'm genuinely not sure.

yes don't do pct after every cycle, but taking hcg is fine to try and keep some fertility

 

[jw.qsg]

Would cruising be better? I'm genuinely not sure.

Definitely, limits fluctuations in hormones and shit, and u can up ur dosage and add in other compounds whenever within reason, be careful with orals or 19nors tho, i say double time off u were on minimum eg. If u did anavar for 6 weeks dont go again for atleast 12, anavar over 8 weeks will trash ur lipids and wont do ur liver any good, any other orals excluding like Dbol should be limited to like 3-4 weeks max-halo, sdrol etc

 

[Aldi]

uhh I mean id just start the cycle rn at 300 test with ret

if im gonna be honest, whats meal plan looking like? this all goes to waste if ur undereating tbh

I'll probably do a ton of raw meat, cooked meats, shitloads of carbs and other stuff. Will be mainly trying to get sufficient macros and micros.

And bet, should I just start w the test and order the anavar when its in stock?

But lowkey i have no clue when itll be back in stock, is there anything else I can take other than anavar or is it just best to wait?

 

[Aldi]

Definitely, limits fluctuations in hormones and shit, and u can up ur dosage and add in other compounds whenever within reason, be careful with orals or 19nors tho, i say double time off u were on minimum eg. If u did anavar for 6 weeks dont go again for atleast 12, anavar over 8 weeks will trash ur lipids and wont do ur liver any good, any other orals excluding like Dbol should be limited to like 3-4 weeks max-halo, sdrol etc

Bet, how long do you think my first cycle should be anyway?

 

[jw.qsg]

Bet, how long do you think my first cycle should be anyway?

Cruise at a trt+ dosage for 6 weeks, then u can either stay at that dose or increase ur test by 100-150mgs approx for the rest of ur cycle, from when u up ur test you can throw in another non-aromitising compound eg. mast, anavar for the duration of the cycle, with anavar is recommended running towards the end for last 6 weeks and waiting another 4 weeks after upping ur test, for mast id say throw in and leave for the rest of the duration. Ideal cycle is 12-16 weeks but I know some people who permablast for like a year at a time

 

[Aldi]

Cruise at a trt+ dosage for 6 weeks, then u can either stay at that dose or increase ur test by 100-150mgs approx for the rest of ur cycle, from when u up ur test you can throw in another non-aromitising compound eg. mast, anavar for the duration of the cycle, with anavar is recommended running towards the end for last 6 weeks and waiting another 4 weeks after upping ur test, for mast id say throw in and leave for the rest of the duration. Ideal cycle is 12-16 weeks but I know some people who permablast for like a year at a time

lmfao yea. I was told my first cycle should be 9 months minimum to see any real facial gains

 

[jw.qsg]

lmfao yea. I was told my first cycle should be 9 months minimum to see any real facial gains

Nah u can run higher dose test and see face gains like first 3 months, how old are y?

 

[Aldi]

Nah u can run higher dose test and see face gains like first 3 months, how old are y?

im basically 16, let me ask yura when anavar will be back in stock. ill probably just wait for anavar to be back in stock and here's my full plan


First 3 weeks

250 Test C
Retatrutide
HCG
Fish Oil
Creatine
TUDCA
NAC

3-10 weeks

250 Test C
Anavar
Retatrutide
HCG
Fish Oil
Creatine
TUDCA
NAC

10-25 weeks
275 Test C
70 Tren
HCG
Melatonin
Fish Oil
Creatine
Tudca
Nac

Cardio throughout the week + food heavy diet

 

[Aldi]

im basically 16, let me ask yura when anavar will be back in stock. ill probably just wait for anavar to be back in stock and here's my full plan


First 3 weeks

250 Test C
Retatrutide
HCG
Fish Oil
Creatine
TUDCA
NAC

3-10 weeks

250 Test C
Anavar
Retatrutide
HCG
Fish Oil
Creatine
TUDCA
NAC

10-25 weeks
275 Test C
70 Tren
HCG
Melatonin
Fish Oil
Creatine
Tudca
Nac

Cardio throughout the week + food heavy diet

What we thinking? Should I add any ancillaries or will all be good with this?

 

[Aldi]

@norwoodingmanlet Lmk too

 

[jw.qsg]

Not bad, idk how long you'll last on tren but you will get great results if u do, whats ur pinning schedule/frequency like?

 

[Aldi]

Not bad, idk how long you'll last on tren but you will get great results if u do, whats ur pinning schedule/frequency like?

Im not sure yet tbh, i havent gotten into that too much.

Is it true its better to pin more times throughout the week rather than less?

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

im basically 16, let me ask yura when anavar will be back in stock. ill probably just wait for anavar to be back in stock and here's my full plan


First 3 weeks

250 Test C
Retatrutide
HCG
Fish Oil
Creatine
TUDCA
NAC

3-10 weeks

250 Test C
Anavar
Retatrutide
HCG
Fish Oil
Creatine
TUDCA
NAC

10-25 weeks
275 Test C
70 Tren
HCG
Melatonin
Fish Oil
Creatine
Tudca
Nac

Cardio throughout the week + food heavy diet

yeah better

add tadalafil
add glut
add ALCAR
add dihexa

id end with 350 test tbh

 

[jw.qsg]

What we thinking? Should I add any ancillaries or will all be good with this?

I think it would be a good idea to add in tadalafil at 5-10mg/day for blood pressure, u should be chill tho, test isnt crazy high, for tren maybe P5P, you should take the tbjp vital support throughout the whole duration of this cycle also, has NAC and tudca incl, running tren for 15 weeks won't do ur brain any good so look into either stuff to protect ur brain on tren or stuff to take when u come off, idk much about tren tbh, I tried it, hated it and came off, was a retard and didn't do my research

 

[Aldi]

yeah better

add tadalafil
add glut
add ALCAR
add dihexa

id end with 350 test tbh

Bet, I'll end with 350.

When should i add those though?

 

[jw.qsg]

Im not sure yet tbh, i havent gotten into that too much.

Is it true its better to pin more times throughout the week rather than less?

Yes definitely, I pin test everyday to lower spikes in estrogen and dht (this is what testosterone converts into and gives majority of sides-water retention, acne etc) when you start doing the maths on ur mg/ml, timeframe and shit you might have to change doses, my test is 300mg/ml so when I pin I pin 30mg which works out at 0.1ml/ 10 units on an insulin syringe, much more convenient for me than trying to draw some random ass amount of units on a syringe, also with a smaller insulin needle there will be less scar tissue buildup which is good and it doesn't hurt

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

I think it would be a good idea to add in tadalafil at 5-10mg/day for blood pressure, u should be chill tho, test isnt crazy high, for tren maybe P5P, you should take the tbjp vital support throughout the whole duration of this cycle also, has NAC and tudca incl, running tren for 15 weeks won't do ur brain any good so look into either stuff to protect ur brain on tren or stuff to take when u come off, idk much about tren tbh, I tried it, hated it and came off, was a retard and didn't do my research

oh yeah p5p is good for his prolactin forgot abt that

 

[fraudster#1]

you can up test after the 3 week tbh (300~350 depends how ur body react)
put some P5P for tren, TUDCA, tadalafil, injec glut, and melatonin if our sleep is bad with tren

 

[jw.qsg]

yeah better

add tadalafil
add glut
add ALCAR
add dihexa

id end with 350 test tbh

Glut is a good shout, if u can manage 350 test with low sides do it defo, basically just run as much test as u can without needing an aromitase inhibitor

 

[Aldi]

I think it would be a good idea to add in tadalafil at 5-10mg/day for blood pressure, u should be chill tho, test isnt crazy high, for tren maybe P5P, you should take the tbjp vital support throughout the whole duration of this cycle also, has NAC and tudca incl, running tren for 15 weeks won't do ur brain any good so look into either stuff to protect ur brain on tren or stuff to take when u come off, idk much about tren tbh, I tried it, hated it and came off, was a retard and didn't do my research

Yeahh ill def look into brain protection before ordering. Ill add tbjp too then thanks bhai

 

[jw.qsg]

you can up test after the 3 week tbh (300~350 depends how ur body react)
put some P5P for tren, TUDCA, tadalafil, injec glut, and melatonin if our sleep is bad with tren

I think he should wait 4 so it is properly saturated and he knows how he feels on that dosage, test only saturates after like 3 weeks

 

[fraudster#1]

been spam posting this lately but whatever

Here's my updated stack + ancilarries @ 16 years old

Are there any other protections I should be taking for health? (PS: I literally cant source RU its fucking impossible)

Goal: Dimorphism, Bones - And maybe a bit of muscle

250 test c
70 then
Retatruride
Anastrozole (maybe)



Finasteride
HCG
fish oil
melatonin / zopiclone

btw don't take any dht blocker at this age. use some topical antiandrogen

 

[jw.qsg]

Yeahh ill def look into brain protection before ordering. Ill add tbjp too then thanks bhai

Good stuff, also for fish oils I recommend the supplement needs high-strength omegas, big dose and reputable company, all tbjp stuff is high quality and good dosage also

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

Glut is a good shout, if u can manage 350 test with low sides do it defo, basically just run as much test as u can without needing an aromitase inhibitor

Yeah, he will be fine hemo-wise.

cardio
hydration
and id up the potas for the bloat rn @Aldi
add vitamin c tablets too. 1g daily split 500 mg is good

And Eperlo on hand will be good if he goes over 500. same with Telmisartan and Nebivolol

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

Bet, I'll end with 350.

When should i add those though?

hgh is ideal