Gear really fixes any frame

[Saint Casanova]

His starting point:

 

[Saint Casanova]

@User28823

I guess that’s why he’s a hipcel

 

[ltnbrownacnecel]

 

[Saint Casanova]

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Hmmmm

 

[Deleted member 342671]

He had a wide frame to begin with. Now give me a true framcel with shit tier shoulders and bird tier wrists.

 

[Saint Casanova]

He had a wide frame to begin with. Now give me a true framcel with shit tier shoulders and bird tier wrists.

He only had decent clavicles. That’s it. The rest is poor. Wide hips, hour glass shape, gyno. Wrists are very average at best.

This is a below average base.

 

[Deleted member 342671]

He only had decent clavicles. That’s it. The rest is poor. Wide hips, hour glass shape, gyno. Wrists are very average at best.

This is a below average base.

You can only see mirrors and smoke.

He had wide clavicles to begin with.

His waist is all fat and once that was cooked he was fine.

You need to be more critical.

 

[Saint Casanova]

You can only see mirrors and smoke.

He had wide clavicles to begin with.

His waist is all fat and once that was cooked he was fine.

You need to be more critical.

No. Even now he has a poor costal cartilage max : iliac crest width. His hips are very much below par. He is frauding with a lot of muscle which is my point. When all your fat accumulates towards your love handles, that means your hips are already too big naturally.

Honestly do you think this base is good ?

 

[Deleted member 342671]

No. Even now he has a poor costal cartilage max : iliac crest width. His hips are very much below par. He is frauding with a lot of muscle which is my point. When all your fat accumulates towards your love handles, that means your hips are already too big naturally.

Honestly do you think this base is good ?

Absolutely. Despite him being a fat pig his shoulders pop out. If he was not 30% and 12% you'd see it. There's genuinely people with shit frames and I feel for them because they're always fighting an uphill battle in terms of looks.

 

[PSLbbc]

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He was just too far gone

 

[Saint Casanova]

Absolutely. Despite him being a fat pig his shoulders pop out. If he was not 30% and 12% you'd see it. There's genuinely people with shit frames and I feel for them because they're always fighting an uphill battle in terms of looks.

I’d say only about 10% are truly unfixable.

Here are some other good transformations from the looksmaxxing space.

And of course Orc,

These are obviously very well above average transformations but most people can do a lot.

 

[Deleted member 342671]

I’d say only about 10% are truly unfixable.

Here are some other good transformations from the looksmaxxing space.
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And of course Orc,
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These are obviously very well above average transformations but most people can do a lot.

They all have average/above average frame. I can't find a pic now but I remember a few people with terrible frames. Narrow clavicles, 5 inch wrist, the works. There's no surgery for it. Yet.

 

[Saint Casanova]

They all have average/above average frame. I can't find a pic now but I remember a few people with terrible frames. Narrow clavicles, 5 inch wrist, the works. There's no surgery for it. Yet.

5 inch wrists ??? Is that even possible ???

I’ve seen Klinefelter victims have a good transformation so these lot must have had terrible luck

 

[Deleted member 342671]

5 inch wrists ??? Is that even possible ???

I’ve seen Klinefelter victims have a good transformation so these lot must have had terrible luck

IRL you'll see so many men with absolutely shit tier frames. Despite being a fat pig and in shit shape people have always commented I look like a 'viking' and strong due to my frame.

 

[Saint Casanova]

IRL you'll see so many men with absolutely shit tier frames. Despite being a fat pig and in shit shape people have always commented I look like a 'viking' and strong due to my frame.

That is true. The worst possible frame trait is actually downward sloped shoulders. Any muscle you build around your chest or delts will slope down.

 

[futureschizo]

What about liver king I remember u made a thread about him

Not even the roided delts could save his frame his clavicles are extremely narrow

 

[Deleted member 342671]

What about liver king I remember u made a thread about him

Not even the roided delts could save his frame his clavicles are extremely narrow

He's like 5'4" it's beyond over.

 

[Saint Casanova]

What about liver king I remember u made a thread about him

Not even the roided delts could save his frame his clavicles are extremely narrow

I’m talking about humans not gnomes

 

[futureschizo]

I’m talking about humans not gnomes

Fair fair

But some peoples frames are just unfortunate bad insertions and bad bones roided muscle doesnt help that much

 

[User28823]

@User28823

I guess that’s why he’s a hipcel

NEVER BEGAN FOR HIS COSTAL CARTILAGE MAXIMUM

 

[Sacrimoon]

He literally had insane shoulder width from the start.

 

[Maxillular]

Even very obvious former framecels have seen crazy ascensions from roids such as androgenic and orc

i wonder if their clavicles actually grew or was it all just muscle.

 

[ascendtocl122]

I’d say only about 10% are truly unfixable.

Here are some other good transformations from the looksmaxxing space.
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And of course Orc,
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These are obviously very well above average transformations but most people can do a lot.

bro wtf did orc do

 

[ascendtocl122]

Even very obvious former framecels have seen crazy ascensions from roids such as androgenic and orc

i wonder if their clavicles actually grew or was it all just muscle.

depends on who you ask, and when you start. i definetly am of the opinion that (especially when young) there are definitely compounds that can cause an acromegaly like effect on your frame

 

[Maxillular]

depends on who you ask, and when you start. i definetly am of the opinion that (especially when young) there are definitely compounds that can cause an acromegaly like effect on your frame

i think you have to start before the age of 22, before your clavicles fuse pretty much.

 

[Saint Casanova]

Even very obvious former framecels have seen crazy ascensions from roids such as androgenic and orc

i wonder if their clavicles actually grew or was it all just muscle.

Muscle mostly. Orc started in his late 20s

 

[Saint Casanova]

He literally had insane shoulder width from the start.

Not insane but above average. Insane was someone like the rock