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This applies to pretty much everything: looks, the gym (in strength training, bodybuilding and even the PED community), education, moneymaking, sports etc.
So many successful people in various endeavours REFUSE to abandon the myth of “hard work and discipline”; others who fail to achieve the same result must be slackers who want something to blame and who don’t want to do the work to get there, because they EARNED their success! That is the story they tell themselves.
These people grew up with the narratives of “you can do anything if you try hard enough”, and see themselves as success stories of their effort, resilience and discipline. Because of course, studying for a couple hours a day or tracking their meals properly and training hard or whatever is why they performed better than everyone else around them in their chosen pursuit.
To imply that it was not that, but mostly their own inherited luck substantially enhancing the effects of their training beyond what others could ever achieve even working twice as hard, is practically an insult to them.
As someone who personally found school ridiculously easy and got A*s in basically every exam I ever took, I’m not afraid to admit that none of that was down to hard work lol. People always asked me “what’s your study method”? I never used any fancy tools or had a routine I just read over the notes and did practice questions a week before the exams and topped my classes. Its just genetics man.
A friend of mine (super sweet guy) desperately wanted to be a scientist, but he was probably sub90iq and always struggled in school, tried super hard and worked 10x as much as me but got Cs and couldn’t get onto the classes he would have needed to pursue that dream. Not because he didn’t work hard enough, he just didn’t have the genes. This mindset of “everything that happens to you, good or bad, is your fault” is downright harmful and cruel to such people.
I’ve experienced being on the other end of this too, of course. My physique actually looks pretty good thanks to a good frame and decent insertions, but my strength is just ass. Guys way smaller than me mog all of my lifts and despite my physique I am genuinely embarrassed to lift around friends sometimes. Partly due to having tiny wrists, shit leverages and poor cns coordination (probably related to being aspie). The fact is that when I first started in the gym I failed a 30kg bench, and when I got a (skinny) friend of mine in for the first time he hit 60kg within weeks; we weren’t playing the same game. Strength programmes and dietary changes just didn’t have the same effect as in others because my genetics for such are ass, to the point that its massive fuel for me to want to hop on gear just to compensate.
Of course, the fat powerlifting jesters would just tell me that I’m “not trying hard enough” and “don’t want to put in the work”. The funny thing is, when it comes to things they were NOT gifted at, like in education, it would be THEM complaining that they aren’t “made for school” and that their poor grades are not for lack of effort.
Yeah, long thread but it just pisses me the fuck off how people refuse to humble themselves by acknowledging the genetic aspects of their success.
So many successful people in various endeavours REFUSE to abandon the myth of “hard work and discipline”; others who fail to achieve the same result must be slackers who want something to blame and who don’t want to do the work to get there, because they EARNED their success! That is the story they tell themselves.
These people grew up with the narratives of “you can do anything if you try hard enough”, and see themselves as success stories of their effort, resilience and discipline. Because of course, studying for a couple hours a day or tracking their meals properly and training hard or whatever is why they performed better than everyone else around them in their chosen pursuit.
To imply that it was not that, but mostly their own inherited luck substantially enhancing the effects of their training beyond what others could ever achieve even working twice as hard, is practically an insult to them.
As someone who personally found school ridiculously easy and got A*s in basically every exam I ever took, I’m not afraid to admit that none of that was down to hard work lol. People always asked me “what’s your study method”? I never used any fancy tools or had a routine I just read over the notes and did practice questions a week before the exams and topped my classes. Its just genetics man.
A friend of mine (super sweet guy) desperately wanted to be a scientist, but he was probably sub90iq and always struggled in school, tried super hard and worked 10x as much as me but got Cs and couldn’t get onto the classes he would have needed to pursue that dream. Not because he didn’t work hard enough, he just didn’t have the genes. This mindset of “everything that happens to you, good or bad, is your fault” is downright harmful and cruel to such people.
I’ve experienced being on the other end of this too, of course. My physique actually looks pretty good thanks to a good frame and decent insertions, but my strength is just ass. Guys way smaller than me mog all of my lifts and despite my physique I am genuinely embarrassed to lift around friends sometimes. Partly due to having tiny wrists, shit leverages and poor cns coordination (probably related to being aspie). The fact is that when I first started in the gym I failed a 30kg bench, and when I got a (skinny) friend of mine in for the first time he hit 60kg within weeks; we weren’t playing the same game. Strength programmes and dietary changes just didn’t have the same effect as in others because my genetics for such are ass, to the point that its massive fuel for me to want to hop on gear just to compensate.
Of course, the fat powerlifting jesters would just tell me that I’m “not trying hard enough” and “don’t want to put in the work”. The funny thing is, when it comes to things they were NOT gifted at, like in education, it would be THEM complaining that they aren’t “made for school” and that their poor grades are not for lack of effort.
Yeah, long thread but it just pisses me the fuck off how people refuse to humble themselves by acknowledging the genetic aspects of their success.
