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Alright boys, I’m making this thread because I feel like a lot of people in the looksmax community seriously misunderstand what genetics actually controls. I’m 15 (almost 16), and I’ve been grinding looksmaxxing hard for a while. But after trying tons of methods and researching the science behind facial growth, I’ve realized this:


Genetics has the biggest influence on your looks, and you can only optimize what’s already genetically set.


Let me break it down.




Why Genetics Controls Most of Your Facial Structure (Scientific Explanation)


Your appearance — maxilla projection, mandible growth, cheekbones, chin, brow ridge, nose shape, cartilage thickness, and even how your midface develops — is heavily programmed by your DNA.


When puberty hits, your body activates genes that control:


  • Bone growth direction
  • Height of the nasal bridge
  • Cartilage shape
  • Facial proportions
  • Jaw growth patterns
  • Skin thickness and fat distribution

By the end of puberty, your core facial structure is basically set. From that point on, you can improve soft tissue and posture, but you’re not going to completely change bone shape with exercises or pressure.




My Case: The Nose Hump


I’m insecure about my dorsal hump. TikTok and looksmax threads always jump straight to
“bro recessed maxilla”
for every nose issue. But that’s not always the case.


My maxilla isn’t recessed. Could it be a bit more projected? Maybe. But that’s not why I have a hump.


My nose hump is genetic. My dad and uncle have the same exact one.


A lot of people confuse:


  • a genetic dorsal hump
    with
  • a droopy tip caused by weak tip support

Looksmaxxing circles blame everything on midface deficiency, but not every hooked nose equals a recessed maxilla. My case is literally hereditary.




What I’ve Tried


I’ve tried pretty much everything:


  • Mewing
  • Thumb pulling
  • Chin tucks
  • Chewing for hours
  • Lymphatic drainage
  • Nose “slimming” exercises
  • Tip lifting exercises
  • Mouth taping
  • Sleeping on my back with good posture
  • Bonesmashing (cheekbones, jawline, and especially the radix area)
  • nost taping at night to apply constant pressure to hump

Yes, I even tape my nose at night hoping the pressure on the hump might reshape it a little.


But here’s the scientific reality:


  • Pressure does not reshape nasal bone.
  • Pressure does not remodel cartilage in teens.
  • The dorsal hump is a combination of bone + thick cartilage, and neither responds to pressure.
  • Taping can only change swelling, not structure.
  • Bonesmashing cannot grow or reshape bone — it only risks damage.
  • Chewing doesn’t remodel the jaw bone; it just trains the masseter.
  • Drainage only removes puffiness.

You can temporarily change how swollen your nose looks.
You cannot change the shape of your nasal bones or cartilage this way.
Maybe pressure remodleling does work but taht takes years and no one has years to wait as your bones stop growing at a certain age.




So What Actually Can Be Changed?


Looksmaxxing is worth it when you focus on things that actually respond:


  • Skin quality
  • Body fat percentage
  • Hair and grooming
  • Muscle and posture
  • Style
  • Sleep, hormones, and health
  • Confidence and social presence

But if you’re expecting:


  • your nose hump to disappear
  • your maxilla to magically grow forward
  • your cheekbones to rise
  • your radix to get higher from pressure
  • your cartilage to reshape

I also had a crooked nose and that cannot be fixed by maxilla growth or ascension it takes surgery to fix this and im trying to stay all natural .And also im to young for surgery .This is all my thought on this looksmax journey and i havent quitted or anything i might be 100% wrong .So please reply or give me some tips or advice on what you guys think.


it’s not going to happen.


 
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Thread Body (looksmaxxer tone):


Alright boys, I’m making this thread because I feel like a lot of people in the looksmax community seriously misunderstand what genetics actually controls. I’m 15 (almost 16), and I’ve been grinding looksmaxxing hard for a while. But after trying tons of methods and researching the science behind facial growth, I’ve realized this:


Genetics has the biggest influence on your looks, and you can only optimize what’s already genetically set.


Let me break it down.




Why Genetics Controls Most of Your Facial Structure (Scientific Explanation)


Your appearance — maxilla projection, mandible growth, cheekbones, chin, brow ridge, nose shape, cartilage thickness, and even how your midface develops — is heavily programmed by your DNA.


When puberty hits, your body activates genes that control:


  • Bone growth direction
  • Height of the nasal bridge
  • Cartilage shape
  • Facial proportions
  • Jaw growth patterns
  • Skin thickness and fat distribution

By the end of puberty, your core facial structure is basically set. From that point on, you can improve soft tissue and posture, but you’re not going to completely change bone shape with exercises or pressure.




My Case: The Nose Hump


I’m insecure about my dorsal hump. TikTok and looksmax threads always jump straight to
“bro recessed maxilla”
for every nose issue. But that’s not always the case.


My maxilla isn’t recessed. Could it be a bit more projected? Maybe. But that’s not why I have a hump.


My nose hump is genetic. My dad and uncle have the same exact one.


A lot of people confuse:


  • a genetic dorsal hump
    with
  • a droopy tip caused by weak tip support

Looksmaxxing circles blame everything on midface deficiency, but not every hooked nose equals a recessed maxilla. My case is literally hereditary.




What I’ve Tried


I’ve tried pretty much everything:


  • Mewing
  • Thumb pulling
  • Chin tucks
  • Chewing for hours
  • Lymphatic drainage
  • Nose “slimming” exercises
  • Tip lifting exercises
  • Mouth taping
  • Sleeping on my back with good posture
  • Bonesmashing (cheekbones, jawline, and especially the radix area)
  • nost taping at night to apply constant pressure to hump

Yes, I even tape my nose at night hoping the pressure on the hump might reshape it a little.


But here’s the scientific reality:


  • Pressure does not reshape nasal bone.
  • Pressure does not remodel cartilage in teens.
  • The dorsal hump is a combination of bone + thick cartilage, and neither responds to pressure.
  • Taping can only change swelling, not structure.
  • Bonesmashing cannot grow or reshape bone — it only risks damage.
  • Chewing doesn’t remodel the jaw bone; it just trains the masseter.
  • Drainage only removes puffiness.

You can temporarily change how swollen your nose looks.
You cannot change the shape of your nasal bones or cartilage this way.
Maybe pressure remodleling does work but taht takes years and no one has years to wait as your bones stop growing at a certain age.




So What Actually Can Be Changed?


Looksmaxxing is worth it when you focus on things that actually respond:


  • Skin quality
  • Body fat percentage
  • Hair and grooming
  • Muscle and posture
  • Style
  • Sleep, hormones, and health
  • Confidence and social presence

But if you’re expecting:


  • your nose hump to disappear
  • your maxilla to magically grow forward
  • your cheekbones to rise
  • your radix to get higher from pressure
  • your cartilage to reshape

I also had a crooked nose and that cannot be fixed by maxilla growth or ascension it takes surgery to fix this and im trying to stay all natural .And also im to young for surgery .This is all my thought on this looksmax journey and i havent quitted or anything i might be 100% wrong .So please reply or give me some tips or advice on what you guys think.


it’s not going to happen.


Dnr all yet but looks like a solid and no cope thread :love:
 

Thread Body (looksmaxxer tone):


Alright boys, I’m making this thread because I feel like a lot of people in the looksmax community seriously misunderstand what genetics actually controls. I’m 15 (almost 16), and I’ve been grinding looksmaxxing hard for a while. But after trying tons of methods and researching the science behind facial growth, I’ve realized this:


Genetics has the biggest influence on your looks, and you can only optimize what’s already genetically set.


Let me break it down.




Why Genetics Controls Most of Your Facial Structure (Scientific Explanation)


Your appearance — maxilla projection, mandible growth, cheekbones, chin, brow ridge, nose shape, cartilage thickness, and even how your midface develops — is heavily programmed by your DNA.


When puberty hits, your body activates genes that control:


  • Bone growth direction
  • Height of the nasal bridge
  • Cartilage shape
  • Facial proportions
  • Jaw growth patterns
  • Skin thickness and fat distribution

By the end of puberty, your core facial structure is basically set. From that point on, you can improve soft tissue and posture, but you’re not going to completely change bone shape with exercises or pressure.




My Case: The Nose Hump


I’m insecure about my dorsal hump. TikTok and looksmax threads always jump straight to
“bro recessed maxilla”
for every nose issue. But that’s not always the case.


My maxilla isn’t recessed. Could it be a bit more projected? Maybe. But that’s not why I have a hump.


My nose hump is genetic. My dad and uncle have the same exact one.


A lot of people confuse:


  • a genetic dorsal hump
    with
  • a droopy tip caused by weak tip support

Looksmaxxing circles blame everything on midface deficiency, but not every hooked nose equals a recessed maxilla. My case is literally hereditary.




What I’ve Tried


I’ve tried pretty much everything:


  • Mewing
  • Thumb pulling
  • Chin tucks
  • Chewing for hours
  • Lymphatic drainage
  • Nose “slimming” exercises
  • Tip lifting exercises
  • Mouth taping
  • Sleeping on my back with good posture
  • Bonesmashing (cheekbones, jawline, and especially the radix area)
  • nost taping at night to apply constant pressure to hump

Yes, I even tape my nose at night hoping the pressure on the hump might reshape it a little.


But here’s the scientific reality:


  • Pressure does not reshape nasal bone.
  • Pressure does not remodel cartilage in teens.
  • The dorsal hump is a combination of bone + thick cartilage, and neither responds to pressure.
  • Taping can only change swelling, not structure.
  • Bonesmashing cannot grow or reshape bone — it only risks damage.
  • Chewing doesn’t remodel the jaw bone; it just trains the masseter.
  • Drainage only removes puffiness.

You can temporarily change how swollen your nose looks.
You cannot change the shape of your nasal bones or cartilage this way.
Maybe pressure remodleling does work but taht takes years and no one has years to wait as your bones stop growing at a certain age.




So What Actually Can Be Changed?


Looksmaxxing is worth it when you focus on things that actually respond:


  • Skin quality
  • Body fat percentage
  • Hair and grooming
  • Muscle and posture
  • Style
  • Sleep, hormones, and health
  • Confidence and social presence

But if you’re expecting:


  • your nose hump to disappear
  • your maxilla to magically grow forward
  • your cheekbones to rise
  • your radix to get higher from pressure
  • your cartilage to reshape

I also had a crooked nose and that cannot be fixed by maxilla growth or ascension it takes surgery to fix this and im trying to stay all natural .And also im to young for surgery .This is all my thought on this looksmax journey and i havent quitted or anything i might be 100% wrong .So please reply or give me some tips or advice on what you guys think.


it’s not going to happen.


botb worthy high effort thread
 

Thread Body (looksmaxxer tone):


Alright boys, I’m making this thread because I feel like a lot of people in the looksmax community seriously misunderstand what genetics actually controls. I’m 15 (almost 16), and I’ve been grinding looksmaxxing hard for a while. But after trying tons of methods and researching the science behind facial growth, I’ve realized this:


Genetics has the biggest influence on your looks, and you can only optimize what’s already genetically set.


Let me break it down.




Why Genetics Controls Most of Your Facial Structure (Scientific Explanation)


Your appearance — maxilla projection, mandible growth, cheekbones, chin, brow ridge, nose shape, cartilage thickness, and even how your midface develops — is heavily programmed by your DNA.


When puberty hits, your body activates genes that control:


  • Bone growth direction
  • Height of the nasal bridge
  • Cartilage shape
  • Facial proportions
  • Jaw growth patterns
  • Skin thickness and fat distribution

By the end of puberty, your core facial structure is basically set. From that point on, you can improve soft tissue and posture, but you’re not going to completely change bone shape with exercises or pressure.




My Case: The Nose Hump


I’m insecure about my dorsal hump. TikTok and looksmax threads always jump straight to
“bro recessed maxilla”
for every nose issue. But that’s not always the case.


My maxilla isn’t recessed. Could it be a bit more projected? Maybe. But that’s not why I have a hump.


My nose hump is genetic. My dad and uncle have the same exact one.


A lot of people confuse:


  • a genetic dorsal hump
    with
  • a droopy tip caused by weak tip support

Looksmaxxing circles blame everything on midface deficiency, but not every hooked nose equals a recessed maxilla. My case is literally hereditary.




What I’ve Tried


I’ve tried pretty much everything:


  • Mewing
  • Thumb pulling
  • Chin tucks
  • Chewing for hours
  • Lymphatic drainage
  • Nose “slimming” exercises
  • Tip lifting exercises
  • Mouth taping
  • Sleeping on my back with good posture
  • Bonesmashing (cheekbones, jawline, and especially the radix area)
  • nost taping at night to apply constant pressure to hump

Yes, I even tape my nose at night hoping the pressure on the hump might reshape it a little.


But here’s the scientific reality:


  • Pressure does not reshape nasal bone.
  • Pressure does not remodel cartilage in teens.
  • The dorsal hump is a combination of bone + thick cartilage, and neither responds to pressure.
  • Taping can only change swelling, not structure.
  • Bonesmashing cannot grow or reshape bone — it only risks damage.
  • Chewing doesn’t remodel the jaw bone; it just trains the masseter.
  • Drainage only removes puffiness.

You can temporarily change how swollen your nose looks.
You cannot change the shape of your nasal bones or cartilage this way.
Maybe pressure remodleling does work but taht takes years and no one has years to wait as your bones stop growing at a certain age.




So What Actually Can Be Changed?


Looksmaxxing is worth it when you focus on things that actually respond:


  • Skin quality
  • Body fat percentage
  • Hair and grooming
  • Muscle and posture
  • Style
  • Sleep, hormones, and health
  • Confidence and social presence

But if you’re expecting:


  • your nose hump to disappear
  • your maxilla to magically grow forward
  • your cheekbones to rise
  • your radix to get higher from pressure
  • your cartilage to reshape

I also had a crooked nose and that cannot be fixed by maxilla growth or ascension it takes surgery to fix this and im trying to stay all natural .And also im to young for surgery .This is all my thought on this looksmax journey and i havent quitted or anything i might be 100% wrong .So please reply or give me some tips or advice on what you guys think.


it’s not going to happen.


no way really? genetics determine your 90% of your looks i didn't know that
 
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Thread Body (looksmaxxer tone):


Alright boys, I’m making this thread because I feel like a lot of people in the looksmax community seriously misunderstand what genetics actually controls. I’m 15 (almost 16), and I’ve been grinding looksmaxxing hard for a while. But after trying tons of methods and researching the science behind facial growth, I’ve realized this:


Genetics has the biggest influence on your looks, and you can only optimize what’s already genetically set.


Let me break it down.




Why Genetics Controls Most of Your Facial Structure (Scientific Explanation)


Your appearance — maxilla projection, mandible growth, cheekbones, chin, brow ridge, nose shape, cartilage thickness, and even how your midface develops — is heavily programmed by your DNA.


When puberty hits, your body activates genes that control:


  • Bone growth direction
  • Height of the nasal bridge
  • Cartilage shape
  • Facial proportions
  • Jaw growth patterns
  • Skin thickness and fat distribution

By the end of puberty, your core facial structure is basically set. From that point on, you can improve soft tissue and posture, but you’re not going to completely change bone shape with exercises or pressure.




My Case: The Nose Hump


I’m insecure about my dorsal hump. TikTok and looksmax threads always jump straight to
“bro recessed maxilla”
for every nose issue. But that’s not always the case.


My maxilla isn’t recessed. Could it be a bit more projected? Maybe. But that’s not why I have a hump.


My nose hump is genetic. My dad and uncle have the same exact one.


A lot of people confuse:


  • a genetic dorsal hump
    with
  • a droopy tip caused by weak tip support

Looksmaxxing circles blame everything on midface deficiency, but not every hooked nose equals a recessed maxilla. My case is literally hereditary.




What I’ve Tried


I’ve tried pretty much everything:


  • Mewing
  • Thumb pulling
  • Chin tucks
  • Chewing for hours
  • Lymphatic drainage
  • Nose “slimming” exercises
  • Tip lifting exercises
  • Mouth taping
  • Sleeping on my back with good posture
  • Bonesmashing (cheekbones, jawline, and especially the radix area)
  • nost taping at night to apply constant pressure to hump

Yes, I even tape my nose at night hoping the pressure on the hump might reshape it a little.


But here’s the scientific reality:


  • Pressure does not reshape nasal bone.
  • Pressure does not remodel cartilage in teens.
  • The dorsal hump is a combination of bone + thick cartilage, and neither responds to pressure.
  • Taping can only change swelling, not structure.
  • Bonesmashing cannot grow or reshape bone — it only risks damage.
  • Chewing doesn’t remodel the jaw bone; it just trains the masseter.
  • Drainage only removes puffiness.

You can temporarily change how swollen your nose looks.
You cannot change the shape of your nasal bones or cartilage this way.
Maybe pressure remodleling does work but taht takes years and no one has years to wait as your bones stop growing at a certain age.




So What Actually Can Be Changed?


Looksmaxxing is worth it when you focus on things that actually respond:


  • Skin quality
  • Body fat percentage
  • Hair and grooming
  • Muscle and posture
  • Style
  • Sleep, hormones, and health
  • Confidence and social presence

But if you’re expecting:


  • your nose hump to disappear
  • your maxilla to magically grow forward
  • your cheekbones to rise
  • your radix to get higher from pressure
  • your cartilage to reshape

I also had a crooked nose and that cannot be fixed by maxilla growth or ascension it takes surgery to fix this and im trying to stay all natural .And also im to young for surgery .This is all my thought on this looksmax journey and i havent quitted or anything i might be 100% wrong .So please reply or give me some tips or advice on what you guys think.


it’s not going to happen.


good thread
cant fix something thats already set in stone except through surgery
 
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I’ve always thought that you geniuenly can’t increase beauty besides ratios fixing recession coloring and hair and leaning down and fixing acne. I’ve worked at daycare and I’ve seen kids that just literally mog. The difference is night and day. They are all kids same diet no recession the difference is just natural beauty from their genetics and it’s brutal. In my opinion surgery can’t increase beauty but only fix ugly.
 
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genes are 75% and 25% is environment BUT if you eat proper diet and you have decent genes then its 50/50 i mean if some 2 models have kids and this kids are gonna be fed shit they wont be as good looking as its parents BUT if some decent ppl will feed their child goated food the kid is gonna be at least a tier higher than the parents. yes genes are important but diet can do much too save or destroy
 
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I’ve always thought that you geniuenly can’t increase beauty besides ratios fixing recession coloring and hair and leaning down and fixing acne. I’ve worked at daycare and I’ve seen kids that just literally mog. The difference is night and day. They are all kids same diet no recession the difference is just natural beauty from their genetics and it’s brutal. In my opinion surgery can’t increase beauty but only fix ugly.
spot on bro
 
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Thread Body (looksmaxxer tone):


Alright boys, I’m making this thread because I feel like a lot of people in the looksmax community seriously misunderstand what genetics actually controls. I’m 15 (almost 16), and I’ve been grinding looksmaxxing hard for a while. But after trying tons of methods and researching the science behind facial growth, I’ve realized this:


Genetics has the biggest influence on your looks, and you can only optimize what’s already genetically set.


Let me break it down.




Why Genetics Controls Most of Your Facial Structure (Scientific Explanation)


Your appearance — maxilla projection, mandible growth, cheekbones, chin, brow ridge, nose shape, cartilage thickness, and even how your midface develops — is heavily programmed by your DNA.


When puberty hits, your body activates genes that control:


  • Bone growth direction
  • Height of the nasal bridge
  • Cartilage shape
  • Facial proportions
  • Jaw growth patterns
  • Skin thickness and fat distribution

By the end of puberty, your core facial structure is basically set. From that point on, you can improve soft tissue and posture, but you’re not going to completely change bone shape with exercises or pressure.




My Case: The Nose Hump


I’m insecure about my dorsal hump. TikTok and looksmax threads always jump straight to
“bro recessed maxilla”
for every nose issue. But that’s not always the case.


My maxilla isn’t recessed. Could it be a bit more projected? Maybe. But that’s not why I have a hump.


My nose hump is genetic. My dad and uncle have the same exact one.


A lot of people confuse:


  • a genetic dorsal hump
    with
  • a droopy tip caused by weak tip support

Looksmaxxing circles blame everything on midface deficiency, but not every hooked nose equals a recessed maxilla. My case is literally hereditary.




What I’ve Tried


I’ve tried pretty much everything:


  • Mewing
  • Thumb pulling
  • Chin tucks
  • Chewing for hours
  • Lymphatic drainage
  • Nose “slimming” exercises
  • Tip lifting exercises
  • Mouth taping
  • Sleeping on my back with good posture
  • Bonesmashing (cheekbones, jawline, and especially the radix area)
  • nost taping at night to apply constant pressure to hump

Yes, I even tape my nose at night hoping the pressure on the hump might reshape it a little.


But here’s the scientific reality:


  • Pressure does not reshape nasal bone.
  • Pressure does not remodel cartilage in teens.
  • The dorsal hump is a combination of bone + thick cartilage, and neither responds to pressure.
  • Taping can only change swelling, not structure.
  • Bonesmashing cannot grow or reshape bone — it only risks damage.
  • Chewing doesn’t remodel the jaw bone; it just trains the masseter.
  • Drainage only removes puffiness.

You can temporarily change how swollen your nose looks.
You cannot change the shape of your nasal bones or cartilage this way.
Maybe pressure remodleling does work but taht takes years and no one has years to wait as your bones stop growing at a certain age.




So What Actually Can Be Changed?


Looksmaxxing is worth it when you focus on things that actually respond:


  • Skin quality
  • Body fat percentage
  • Hair and grooming
  • Muscle and posture
  • Style
  • Sleep, hormones, and health
  • Confidence and social presence

But if you’re expecting:


  • your nose hump to disappear
  • your maxilla to magically grow forward
  • your cheekbones to rise
  • your radix to get higher from pressure
  • your cartilage to reshape

I also had a crooked nose and that cannot be fixed by maxilla growth or ascension it takes surgery to fix this and im trying to stay all natural .And also im to young for surgery .This is all my thought on this looksmax journey and i havent quitted or anything i might be 100% wrong .So please reply or give me some tips or advice on what you guys think.


it’s not going to happen.


I mean obviously
 
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no way really? genetics determine your 90% of your looks i didn't know that
tbf i was staing the obvious but there is no real method or hack to actually ascend you to beacoming a chad is waht im trynna say
 
good thread
cant fix something thats already set in stone except through surgery
but all these vidoes claiming shi its obviiosly that they grew up more looking more mature and hit the genetic jackpot.I literally am to young for surgery and even if i am of age to do it my parents would never ther e is literally nothing to naturally fix your chopped looks.
 
the masses are desperate
cope at its finest
those mfs were obviously genetically gifted and just fixed their bad habits
puberty did most if not all of the work for them
 
I’ve always thought that you geniuenly can’t increase beauty besides ratios fixing recession coloring and hair and leaning down and fixing acne. I’ve worked at daycare and I’ve seen kids that just literally mog. The difference is night and day. They are all kids same diet no recession the difference is just natural beauty from their genetics and it’s brutal. In my opinion surgery can’t increase beauty but only fix ugly.
this is good talk bro but no one can control there genetics then what is the real point of looksmax trends that show ascension and forward growth that can fix all your problems
 
genes are 75% and 25% is environment BUT if you eat proper diet and you have decent genes then its 50/50 i mean if some 2 models have kids and this kids are gonna be fed shit they wont be as good looking as its parents BUT if some decent ppl will feed their child goated food the kid is gonna be at least a tier higher than the parents. yes genes are important but diet can do much too save or destroy
the only proper and well deserved glow up and ascension that i believe in and actually works is how you see thos chopped obes chunky looking guys with no facial proprtions no jawline and really bad acen.They start to workout lose weight gain muscle which naturally increases testosterone increasin looks as they lose face fat and get better jawline as they combine this with simple chin tucks this is rs but waht about people who are already lean and have other face problems how they going to fix that.
 
this is good talk bro but no one can control there genetics then what is the real point of looksmax trends that show ascension and forward growth that can fix all your problems
Yeah I understand your point. I’m not saying to quit looksmaxxing if you have no recession no acne good skin quality and basically fixed all things and is still less than HTN. There is still gymcelling frauding and surgeries to increase psl and in general smv boosting. But the thing about forward growth is that not everyone is meant to be forward grown. Geniuenly. Look at some people and their family even if they are Caucasian they still have flat faces and lack depth. This isn’t recession it’s genetic. Most of my friends are ethnic nordics and they literally got flat faces genetically. But yes you could probably just smv boost your way up to the top and do surgery/implant/filler to increase your attraction compared to the average normie. This is literally how most looksmaxxers ascend. An example would be Saafir and salludon. If you took away the filler and surgeries from both of them they would look like your average 7/11 worker. But they are still ranked chadlite+ after hardmaxxing
 
Yeah I understand your point. I’m not saying to quit looksmaxxing if you have no recession no acne good skin quality and basically fixed all things and is still less than HTN. There is still gymcelling frauding and surgeries to increase psl and in general smv boosting. But the thing about forward growth is that not everyone is meant to be forward grown. Geniuenly. Look at some people and their family even if they are Caucasian they still have flat faces and lack depth. This isn’t recession it’s genetic. Most of my friends are ethnic nordics and they literally got flat faces genetically. But yes you could probably just smv boost your way up to the top and do surgery/implant/filler to increase your attraction compared to the average normie. This is literally how most looksmaxxers ascend. An example would be Saafir and salludon. If you took away the filler and surgeries from both of them they would look like your average 7/11 worker. But they are still ranked chadlite+ after hardmaxxing
i see wym but looksmax should literally be called hardmaxxing now as nothing is natural and true results.And yes some people have no forward growth but dont look that bad i have many friends like that but even 1 thing can tip your whole case of balance.As most people i know have naturally symmetrical face with straight nose bridge whereas i have none but a good jawline and ok skin.I lowkey look choped as facial proportions is key as i have a naturally crooked nose which has a dorsal hump.This said not eryone has the time or money to do surgery.And some people like my parents would say you shouldnt cometically change gods beauty which is a big thing my parents have said.
 
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the only proper and well deserved glow up and ascension that i believe in and actually works is how you see thos chopped obes chunky looking guys with no facial proprtions no jawline and really bad acen.They start to workout lose weight gain muscle which naturally increases testosterone increasin looks as they lose face fat and get better jawline as they combine this with simple chin tucks this is rs but waht about people who are already lean and have other face problems how they going to fix that.
that's what i am trying to say if someone is STILL IN PUBERTY and starts eating good at 15/16 then there is a chance of htn/htb with decent genes they are important but environment is important too bcs with bad environment even chad/stacy genes won't transfer to kid bcs of lack of everything
 
the masses are desperate
cope at its finest
those mfs were obviously genetically gifted and just fixed their bad habits
puberty did most if not all of the work for them
yes very ture but all these looksmax naturla methods are fake and they do not work and even if htey do we have barely and scientics explanation backing this or research.Genetics is everything
 
the only proper and well deserved glow up and ascension that i believe in and actually works is how you see thos chopped obes chunky looking guys with no facial proprtions no jawline and really bad acen.They start to workout lose weight gain muscle which naturally increases testosterone increasin looks as they lose face fat and get better jawline as they combine this with simple chin tucks this is rs but waht about people who are already lean and have other face problems how they going to fix that.
diet is prob only softmax that work i mean by saying softmax not including things like dying brows, loosing weight i mean by method that permamently make you more atractive
 

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