Haver you seen Ronald ead after?
because he got fucked pheno which will not allow him to ascend just by MSE. MSE giving good base for further looksmaxxing.
my teeth is strange, its crooked as fuck. I didnt use retainer after using braces, It got crooked again(I stopped using braces at 13-14). Some teeth I ser, but they are not really showing, mouth seems tô open more then teerh, idk, look:
Bruh get braces tf
MSE is expensive
I know
Idk, theres a research showing chances in facial structure due to palate expansion
Most surgeons are bluepilled af. It was measured and Ronald Ead's IPD increased by 1.5-1.6mm [retard measured 1.5mm, i measured 1.6mm]
I feel It would mesa up my aesthetics getting wide nostrils
Show me
No they are not bluepilled, In fact they are highly praised on here for being blackpilled asf
That's where my theory comes in handy
You can measure from Ronald's picture [with iris method] that his IPD increased slighty.
His pheno is fine, he's decent looking
No, he looks too ethnic.
He looks kinda jewish or middle eastern. But enough like a white guy to get by. I'm sure he can get nice girls
He is clearly a faggot
Seems ok to me. Just a bit jewy.
Where do you live that it’s that cheap?
How do you know?
It simply works for mouth widening. Read @Pendejo ’s thread on it. The old dude who made the device successfully widened his relaxed mouth width significantly
Nice
You know sometimes a lot of times when I try to measure my midface I get deferent readings from every picture.
research
I don’t think so. The guy was 50-55 I think
what if you rhinomax post mse, will the nose still adapt over time to palate? my nose is extremely wide
Yes, his device works.
Which surgeons?
Yeah but it also increases nose width and ipd a bit which I don’t need at all. Overall Mse is good for narrowfacecelsYes, his device works.
MSE could make the mouth wider too, since it increases the intercanine width.
Which surgeons?
you can just get rhinoplasty to fix the nose
research
method is legit, i've been measuring a lot people and it works perfectly, i get same measurments from my pics all the time
@retard
With a segmental horseshoe lefort 1 you could get similar expansion of the palate whitout changing the alar base width.
Congrats on being mod bro!Yes, his device works.
MSE could make the mouth wider too, since it increases the intercanine width.
Which surgeons?
My lips appear somewhat narrow. My palate seems average. Simple Mouth widening would help me a lot
Post before and afters if you do it please.
Shut the fuck up u fucking clueless greycel. As someone said it in past. Its always some greycel who is coming and talk shit on forum.
JFL at you low IQ retard thinking you know better than actual practicing maxillofacial surgeons
IPD can never change. midface ratio can never change don't cope your way out of it
Result of fucking Lefort 2 with CCW rotationView attachment 217687
Ya what else you can do? Grow a second dick. Go fuck yourself coping idiot
and BTW I cage every time someone uses greycel as an insult it shows that you are really low IQ and the biggest accomplishment you are gonna have is shit posting here to be a "superior redcel"
CCW Rotation with Lefort 2 could make the midface look slightly shorter from the front, but it doesnt shorten the nose, it would only rotate it.
Thats a quadrangular Lefort 2, not CCW Rotation with Lefort 2.Result of fucking Lefort 2 with CCW rotation
Still it would make midface slighty shorter, this is what we aiming for.
JFL the first picture her midface didn't change she was just smiling after the surgery which lifted her upper lip a little bit
Hahaha you fucking clueless monkey. You got literally destroyed, even @Pendejo agreed that midface will appear to be shorter thanks to rotating it upwards. You can fucking measure on the picture that her midface is shorter (you can leave her smiling mouth)
