Getting MSE+braces. Are reverse pull headgears cope for Forward growth/CCW rotation

[tkkkkkd123]

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Teach me any ways to improve gonial angle, inward gonions and/or recessed maxilla including pinning or other hardmax pls. Prioritizing less invasive procedures tho

 

[Deleted member 271577]

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Teach me any ways to improve gonial angle, inward gonions and/or recessed maxilla including pinning or other hardmax pls. Prioritizing less invasive procedures tho

this can be easily googled

 

[sacul]

no headgear isn't cope but mse doesn't give you forward growth, and when you get braces make sure either they don't extract teeth or you get damon braces.

 

[Deleted member 271577]

no headgear isn't cope but mse doesn't give you forward growth, and when you get braces make sure either they don't extract teeth or you get damon braces.

it does, barely tho. like 1-2 mm

 

[tkkkkkd123]

no headgear isn't cope but mse doesn't give you forward growth, and when you get braces make sure either they don't extract teeth or you get damon braces.

Ik mse doesnt give forward growth and I got self regulating brackets but what could be an evidence that headgear isnt cope im wondering if its really worth it for me to go through

 

[tkkkkkd123]

16 btw

 

[Ray0n]

A bimax instantly gives you +10° of CCW rotation and is therefore the most effective method you can do to improve your gonial angle
Orthdontic treatments like an orthodontic headgear can work but only for patients who are still developing, since it pulls with around 500g of force. I assume you're older than 13 so you will need more force (1.5kg) to see some results, don't forget it's a slow process

MSE and braces just widen your palate and straighten out your teeth, you might get some anterior growth from the MSE

 

[sacul]

Ik mse doesnt give forward growth and I got self regulating brackets but what could be an evidence that headgear isnt cope im wondering if its really worth it for me to go through

dude what do you think headgears are for, if you are going to a orthodoctiss and they set it up for you it surely isn't cope

 

[sacul]

A bimax instantly gives you +10° of CCW rotation and therefore the most effective method you can do to improve your gonial angle
Orthdontic treatments like an orthodontic headgear can work but only for patients who are still developing, since it pulls with around 500g of force. I assume you're older than 13 so you will need more force (1.5kg) to see some results, don't forget it's a slow process

MSE and braces just widen your palate and straighten out your teeth, you might get some anterior growth from the MSE

bimax mogs

 

[tkkkkkd123]

dude what do you think headgears are for, if you are going to a orthodoctiss and they set it up for you it surely isn't cope

Just skeptical cus of age. I hear some say it only works for adolescents and Im 16

 

[sacul]

Just skeptical cus of age. I hear some say it only works for adolescents and Im 16

you just need more force as long you are in puberty it works

 

[tkkkkkd123]

A bimax instantly gives you +10° of CCW rotation and is therefore the most effective method you can do to improve your gonial angle
Orthdontic treatments like an orthodontic headgear can work but only for patients who are still developing, since it pulls with around 500g of force. I assume you're older than 13 so you will need more force (1.5kg) to see some results, don't forget it's a slow process

MSE and braces just widen your palate and straighten out your teeth, you might get some anterior growth from the MSE

I wouldnt happen to be able to get such an appliance with 1.5kg force at my ortho would I

Even if I was I'm not sure how I'd be asking for it because I do have crowding and other symptoms for narrow palate but I don't think I necessarily need a facegear

 

[Ray0n]

Just skeptical cus of age. I hear some say it only works for adolescents and Im 16

the regular headgear works for very young patients who are still developing,
you're 16. you will have to pull with more force to get results overtime

 

[Ray0n]

I wouldnt happen to be able to get such an appliance with 1.5kg force at my ortho would I

Even if I was I'm not sure how I'd be asking for it because I do have crowding and other symptoms for narrow palate but I don't think I necessarily need a facegear

no, I don't think any ortho would give a patient a device that pulls your maxilla forwards with a 1.5kg force, you will have to make one yourself ig

 

[tkkkkkd123]

no, I don't think any ortho would give a patient a device that pulls your maxilla forwards with a 1.5kg force, you will have to make one yourself ig

Bet any guides on the forum for this?? Brutally need forward growth

 

[Ray0n]

Bet any guides on the forum for this?? Brutally need forward growth

there are some but most of them get clowned on

 

[tkkkkkd123]

there are some but most of them get clowned on

Thanks I'll look for them anyways

 

[Ray0n]

Thanks I'll look for them anyways

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