GIANT the inventor and why you should be careful with going to him

My chin is recessed and fails all lip assessments although its 6mm behind my lips and my gonial angle is moderately unideal

Slight bite issues functionally but not noticeable

Also asthmatic but idk if it will fit lol

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I would assume he will say you need genio lol
 
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And ramus lengthening especially for my 3 cm ramus :forcedsmile::forcedsmile::forcedsmile:
Then he would say implants but you can only do like 10 mm max and thats pushing it
 
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Prob cases with no clear functional issues. And aesthetic cases that he cant advance more then 10 mm pog, or do a big down graft etc. like many people on here post on say they only want ccw for example, that would for sure be denied. Also if you start talking about ratios and angles in his consult, he dont like that at all. So thats prob not a good thing to do if you dont want him to send you to the psychiatrist like he has done with some. (Mostly italians tho lol)
that one guy on here which got denied and told to go to a psychiatrist was comedy
 
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Firstly him saying he is a inventor is just to seem more creative then he really is. Being an inventor is very easy, creating something that is not tested is a fools job.


And if you dont understand why being an inventor means nothing here is why:

-He is young at 27 years old with 5 years experince, which means he has zero longterm result. So basically his inventions havent even been tested yet longterm. most of the common teqniques out there have 20 years of longterm data about risks etc( bimax tech, rhinoplasty tech etc )

- One example is the hole in his implant design, this leads to bigger surface area which increases risk for infections longterm, also the holes will create better microbiomes for bacteria and fluid to build up( Perfect eyyyy)

- And him being the inventor often just means, no other surgeon is stupid enough to do this


-Also most of his inventions are a slight change to another surgeons orginal idea, example below

Giant inventing the jaw implant and bsso hybrid implant

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meawhile sailer 2017 before giant even was active in surgery had a youtube clip about him doing bsso and jaw implant in the same surgery. What a orginal thought mr inventor.

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Final conclusion on reasons why you should be careful with giant

- He is a young guy with five years experience which means he has no longterm data on anything he does

-He tells people on this forum that the surgeon doesnt matter lolololololol

-He works in turkey for less regulations on his extreme risky surgeries without even having a medical degree or taking any kind of actual responsiblity

-He has clearly been giving some people facial ruining implants that he knows will look uncanny for the rest of their life which indicate the lack of empathy( ohh just remove the implant, sure removing an implant that goes across the whole face will look good lelelel)

-He down plays the risk of surgery

-He is rotting on this forum, Serious medical proffesionals wouldnt do that.

-He does things most surgeons dont want to do because he cant compete, so he feed on the desperate instead( people with high esr or low for example that needs obo but cant get it elsewhere)

- He has not a single result out there

-he downplays surgeons responsibility in botching, that every surgeon or designer does wrong and fails.( not wrong but you dont want to do a surgery with a designer that downplays his part in having a bad result with you)



sidenote: giant is an interesting person and its cool that he is testing around and being a pioneer. But i wouldnt go to him myself and be a bunny to his frankenstein testing. Its also cool that he went from a basement dweller too actually doing surgeries on people. Kinda scary that its even possible without any sort of relevant degree, but thats not his fault. And also he is smart in not showing any result and make people believe their is magic behind the scenes and chads roaming around created by giant himself lol
i believe i did see an infraorbital implants result from here out here somewhere though.
 
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Good thread.
 
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With all the money in the world I would never go to him. Ever.
I'm doing good with my current surgeon (he actually has a degree and experience) and I'll probably ask him what he thinks about some of Giant's implants lol.
 
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With all the money in the world I would never go to him. Ever.
I'm doing good with my current surgeon (he actually has a degree and experience) and I'll probably ask him what he thinks about some of Giant's implants lol.
id rather not ask him lol
 
i believe i did see an infraorbital implants result from here out here somewhere though.
I mean i have seen most of his result, and they are mediocre at best. Thats why he dont post them
 
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I mean i have seen most of his result, and they are mediocre at best. Thats why he dont post them
the infraorbital result i saw convinced me to spare for them with him, the one result i saw though, but it was amazing.
 
Firstly him saying he is a inventor is just to seem more creative then he really is. Being an inventor is very easy, creating something that is not tested is a fools job.
Moron. All of my inventions which I publicly show have been used and worked before.

How many inventions do you have, since it's easy?

This is just a few of them. And there are patents pending so do not expect to get most of this anywhere else.

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Surgeons are mirin in my DMs but losers like you have a lot to criticize


meawhile sailer 2017 before giant even was active in surgery had a youtube clip about him doing bsso and jaw implant in the same surgery. What a orginal thought mr inventor.

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That is not a custom implant, idiot. Its an ill-fitting non-custom implant over a traditional plate.

I AM the inventor of the combined Jaw Angle Implant + BSSO plate.


Rameiri Thought of it a few weeks later, independently. Two of the best minds in the space came to the same conclusion.

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Keep downplaying Giant like an incel retard.

Most everything else you said is untrue as well. I'm not even gonna respond to it all.
 
Its nothing wrong with creating something new. But his test subjects(incels/lookmax rotters) dont even understand that the are test rats.
Fair.

His implant designs are a lot bigger most
Some do just as big implants, even bigger than him. It's not ultra rare.

Leforte 2/3 isnt commonly done and should t be done on some desperate inkwell because he is too stupid to realize better.
He doesn't just do it to anyone. You would be surprised by the people he has rejected for LF3.
Anyway look at LF2 / 3 OSTEOTOMY risk stats.

One day when one lose bone with age the implants can shift etc. And what happens if its shifts the wrong way ?
Yeah but that's not limited to Giant tho. Again, many other surgeons do comparatively big implants on old people who are entering that stage where they might lose bone, both for cosmetic and medical reasons. You can ask around and see what's up. Ask Eppley, or the people at materialise, etc.

and like you said most things of what giant does is not new inventions but rather no other surgeon is stupid enough to take the risks he does
Not even close to what I said but alright.
You cant use laws to take legal actions if something goes wrong basically, its not a conspiracy theory.
But yea i dont know the exact details.
Exactly. You don't.
the risks cones from the surgeon
No, it's two-fold. It's both the planning and the surgery. Bad planning = higher risk of complications, bad surgery team and setup = higher risk.
If his stats were better it would be because of celal, pag etc.
So with the above said; No, not necessarily.

Why would i have a conspiracy
Because in the little time I've spent in the hardmaxxing community, I've seen that people love to hate on him. And when asked for evidence of what they say, they can't provide any. So in other words I've seen a lot of baseless negative ideas about him.

That has been my experience and observation.

But since I don't have an agenda, since I'm just a patient looking for a surgeon and nothing more than that, like you said...:
If they do go wrong i am sure he will respond on message from thailand
...yes, I have also heard bad rumors about his communication with patients. I've yet to see any evidence tho besides maybe the infection guy. But idk if that's got to do with bad communication with patients, because I did not read the full thing.
Moat of the actual science is not from people with degrees, right?
You don't know what science is.
Surgery is not about being street smart you fool.
Sitting at home studying yourself is just second guessing how much you really know.
This is opinion and you're bending the facts of the matter and framing them in such a way as to serve your opinion.

You're brainwashed to think that you need a degree to know truth.
 
diploma is literally sign that you can spend 7 years studying things and being persistent in it, it literally involves good amount of self control/discipline to become a doctor. "pARt of lEaRNing CuRve BRO!"
How many years has giant been doing this tho? Since you're bringing this up
 
How would we know if he’s superior if we can never see results lol?
Compare his designs that he has publicly shared with the rest of the industries publicly shared designs.
 
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Compare his designs that he has publicly shared with the rest of the industries publicly shared designs.
Shared designs vs shared before and after are a very different thing :lul::lul:

@lurking truecel
 
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Shared designs vs shared before and after are a very different thing :lul::lul:

@lurking truecel
Yes, and the part of what I said that you responded to was referring to his designs, not before / afters. You're the one that brought that up. But I could've been clearer in my original message
 
- He is a young guy with five years experience which means he has no longterm data on anything he does
:feelsuhh:

That is 5 years more experience than anyone else :feelskek:
- He has not a single result out there
Literally not true. There are plenty on zoom and even a few that patients shared on the forum.
And also he is smart in not showing any result and make people believe their is magic behind the scenes and chads roaming around created by giant himself lol
Again, you have no idea what you are talking about. You have never consulted and you have never seen my results. Perhaps you have seen swollen healing pictures from support groups that leaked.

I mean i have seen most of his result, and they are mediocre at best. Thats why he dont post them
Either youre making shit up or you have unrealistic expectations. No one has come close to the level of natural aesthetics as me with implant results.

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Just a few I have on hand, out of the SMALL FRACTION that ALLOWED release or released themselves.

Anyone who says "Why aren't there lots of results posted" is a true Sub 90 IQ.


Im not even gonna explain why. I'll let you think a little harder why most people dont want their face out there.

Bet youre one of the entitled incels who thinks YOURE the exception as to why YOUR results cant be posted, but bitches about no one else sharing them.

True retard in every sense of the word!
 
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- He is a young guy with five years experience which means he has no longterm data on anything he does
:feelsuhh:

That is 5 years more experience than anyone else :feelskek:
- He has not a single result out there
Literally not true. There are plenty on zoom and even a few that patients shared on the forum.
And also he is smart in not showing any result and make people believe their is magic behind the scenes and chads roaming around created by giant himself lol
Again, you have no idea what you are talking about. You have never consulted and you have never seen my results. Perhaps you have seen swollen healing pictures from support groups that leaked.

I mean i have seen most of his result, and they are mediocre at best. Thats why he dont post them
Either youre making shit up or you have unrealistic expectations. No one has come close to the level of natural aesthetics as me with implant results.

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Just a few I have on hand, out of the SMALL FRACTION that ALLOWED release or released themselves.

Anyone who says "Why aren't there lots of results posted" is a true Sub 90 IQ.


Im not even gonna explain why. I'll let you think a little harder why most people dont want their face out there.

Bet youre one of the entitled incels who thinks YOURE the exception as to why YOUR results cant be posted, but bitches about no one else sharing them.

True retard in every sense of the word!
 
Holy shit They might actually be giant alt accounts jfl
I can prove otherwise if you really want me to

I guess it doesnt help that me and giant are responding at the same time 😂
 
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:feelsuhh:

That is 5 years more experience than anyone else :feelskek:
Yea so you realize yourself how extremely low that years of experience is.

Literally not true. There are plenty on zoom and even a few that patients shared on the forum.
Yes i have seen all the ones that are out there. They are not bad nor very good.
Again, you have no idea what you are talking about. You have never consulted and you have never seen my results. Perhaps you have seen swollen healing pictures from support groups that leaked.
I have seen the ones leaked, which is like 15+ results
Either youre making shit up or you have unrealistic expectations. No one has come close to the level of natural aesthetics as me with implant results.

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Yea not bad or very impressive. And pics alone dont really say that much either way.
Just a few I have on hand, out of the SMALL FRACTION that ALLOWED release or released themselves.

Anyone who says "Why aren't there lots of results posted" is a true Sub 90 IQ.
I do understand that someone dont want their face out there. But if you blur the eyes or even other parts thats not operated on i bet some people will agree on realizing it if its actually good result and they are happy.
Im not even gonna explain why. I'll let you think a little harder why most people dont want their face out there.

Bet youre one of the entitled incels who thinks YOURE the exception as to why YOUR results cant be posted, but bitches about no one else sharing them.
I get it totally, but you are by definitions wrong on the second one. My result are out there but much of my face is blurred.

True retard in every sense of the word!
What a serious surgeon you are, being on here and telling people they have sub 90 iq and are retards. ( I do also but i sm not a surgeon or surgery planner) Really proves my point in how immature and lack of empathy you have. Even in the name of your own brand. Imagine if other surgeons or designers was on here telling people stupid shit like you. But yea i bet you will be able to fool people here still

Overall i think some of ehat you do is impressive in the pioneering sense. But the morales are not there in my opinion and the ethics on who you operates on
 
Welcome back truecel missed you
 
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Compare his designs that he has publicly shared with the rest of the industries publicly shared designs.
Yea anyone can make a skull look good, holy brain iq @tweaqo
 
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Moron. All of my inventions which I publicly show have been used and worked before.

How many inventions do you have, since it's easy?

This is just a few of them. And there are patents pending so do not expect to get most of this anywhere else.

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That is not a custom implant, idiot. Its an ill-fitting non-custom implant over a traditional plate.

I AM the inventor of the combined Jaw Angle Implant + BSSO plate.


Rameiri Thought of it a few weeks later, independently. Two of the best minds in the space came to the same conclusion.

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Keep downplaying Giant like an incel retard.

Most everything else you said is untrue as well. I'm not even gonna respond to it all.
Yea, i mean maybe you are a great mind and a amazing inventor. And have result no other surgeon have but i dont really get why you hide in turkey then. Come out of the closet, but yea i mean nothing of what you do is illegal and you probably do som revolutions when you use people as guinea pigs. And yea to be fair you are the most interesting surgeon out there by a mile, 100%. I will gladly follow your journey, maybe you prove me wrong and really is a master mind. Keep on hustling, i really hope clav does his Surgeries. Will be very interesting
 
The amount of giant glaze in the thread is insane , niggas be defending him more than he's defending himself:lul:
 
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The amount of giant glaze in the thread is insane , niggas be defending him more than he's defending himself:lul:
Probably because they are so desperate and dont want to be realistic in ehat is safely achieved via surgery. So they go to some prophet who tells them glory and gold. But they dont really know the whole story
 
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Probably because they are so desperate and dont want to be realistic in ehat is safely achieved via surgery. So they go to some prophet who tells them glory and gold. But they dont really know the whole story
High iq analysis
 
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Yea anyone can make a skull look good, holy brain iq @tweaqo
I'm not talking about "just making a skull look good". But about GOOD design vs BAD design.

Design that leads to complications vs ones that dont.

Designs that lead to poor aesthetic outcomes vs ones that dont.

That's my point.

And before u repeat your point about his design having higher risks of complications, present the evidence of that then. Not just supporting evidence from studies, because I believe that exists. But instead actual evidence, because that's what matters. Reality > theory.

"holy brain iq" if we use our brains for a second, if giant and his stuff was truly that horrible and unsafe, we'd see a lot more complaints about it.

But we don't.

OOOOHHH BUT THAT MUST MEAN THAT HE IS A JEW that's making people sign NDAs right...? Rightt..

If anything, it is literally his incentive for ppl to be more public with their results so that his rep goes up.
 
I'm not talking about "just making a skull look good". But about GOOD design vs BAD design.
And you know what is good design or not because you know the anatomical structures in the body and how they are affected by a implant design or not.
Design that leads to complications vs ones that dont.
its hypothetical, go and ask a occuplastic or maxfac surgeon about his design and ask ehat risks they have. Bigger design leads to more risks is all i know for certain. And having saddles inside the eye globe def have some risks, you dont be a genius to understand
Designs that lead to poor aesthetic outcomes vs ones that dont.
Sure you know this, and i have seen 15+ results from him. Some in motion on video even and its def not the aesthetic outcomes you want in many cases. Esp his supra results look bad in pics and worse in videos. Some of them actually looks like botched fox eye lifts where eyebrows becomes uncanny because they are so immovable
That's my point.

And before u repeat your point about his design having higher risks of complications, present the evidence of that then. Not just supporting evidence from studies, because I believe that exists. But instead actual evidence, because that's what matters. Reality > theory.
Bigger implants more risk, nore likely to mess with nerves and muscles and even fucntional tear and eye diseases. Exact details is something you can just google or use grok to get the exact studies on it. Then you can read them alone and come to your own conclusions. But there prob even isnt much studies on it as its never done unless extreme trauma cases
"holy brain iq" if we use our brains for a second, if giant and his stuff was truly that horrible and unsafe, we'd see a lot more complaints about it.
We have had horror stories, some people have even gotten out and said he was dog shit. But removed the comments because he promise them revision which will never happen prob. Most people who get botched hide away because they get nothing from sharing their stories more then preventing others from doing same misstakes. And that is no reason to do it for many. Also they know they burn the potential revision to fix. And by law giant is clear of any consequences from his surgeries, thats why he is in turkey. He litteraly does surgeries without any kind of responsibility. If things go wrong the patient is left alone with the local doctors where he lives.
But we don't.

OOOOHHH BUT THAT MUST MEAN THAT HE IS A JEW that's making people sign NDAs right...? Rightt..
He is not a jew, many people just do things for money no matter the ethics involved
If anything, it is literally his incentive for ppl to be more public with their results so that his rep goes up.
Yes it is but when the result are subpar on ehat he markets his result too be its not favorable. I am sure many patients would agree upon sharing result if eyes and the not affected areas is blurred. You need to be really low iq to not realize this.
 
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Ngl fillers look more logical to me nowadays. Implants are risky, expensive asf, need revions most of time, bone erosion etc. Probably fillers migrating to another area of the face only occurs with poorly applied or low-quality fillers. Just look at salludon he obv got fillers and looks same 2 years. Atleast go fat graft if you have bad eye area.
I got fillers yesterday and let me tell you, same day with the swelling and it looks natural.

Fillers are also a very good option.
 
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And you know what is good design or not because you know the anatomical structures in the body and how they are affected by a implant design or not.

its hypothetical, go and ask a occuplastic or maxfac surgeon about his design and ask ehat risks they have. Bigger design leads to more risks is all i know for certain. And having saddles inside the eye globe def have some risks, you dont be a genius to understand

Sure you know this, and i have seen 15+ results from him. Some in motion on video even and its def not the aesthetic outcomes you want in many cases. Esp his supra results look bad in pics and worse in videos. Some of them actually looks like botched fox eye lifts where eyebrows becomes uncanny because they are so immovable

Bigger implants more risk, nore likely to mess with nerves and muscles and even fucntional tear and eye diseases. Exact details is something you can just google or use grok to get the exact studies on it. Then you can read them alone and come to your own conclusions. But there prob even isnt much studies on it as its never done unless extreme trauma cases

We have had horror stories, some people have even gotten out and said he was dog shit. But removed the comments because he promise them revision which will never happen prob. Most people who get botched hide away because they get nothing from sharing their stories more then preventing others from doing same misstakes. And that is no reason to do it for many. Also they know they burn the potential revision to fix. And by law giant is clear of any consequences from his surgeries, thats why he is in turkey. He litteraly does surgeries without any kind of responsibility. If things go wrong the patient is left alone with the local doctors where he lives.

He is not a jew, many people just do things for money no matter the ethics involved

Yes it is but when the result are subpar on ehat he markets his result too be its not favorable. I am sure many patients would agree upon sharing result if eyes and the not affected areas is blurred. You need to be really low iq to not realize this.
You make some good points in this message.

Bigger design leads to more risks is all i know for certain.
That might be the case, but this isn't a giant specific thing. As I said earlier there are others that do big implants as well. I mean have you seen some of those american normie plastic surgery cases? That shit can get wild.

Some in motion on video even and its def not the aesthetic outcomes you want in many cases. Esp his supra results look bad in pics and worse in videos.
I'm not gonna refute this (the 1st sentence). But regarding the supras. Personally out of the ones I've seen, I think his supras look pretty good. For sure better than the others. And I feel like that's an edge he has over the market rn (his supra design).

We have had horror stories, some people have even gotten out and said he was dog shit. But removed the comments because he promise them revision which will never happen prob. Most people who get botched hide away because they get nothing from sharing their stories more then preventing others from doing same misstakes. And that is no reason to do it for many. Also they know they burn the potential revision to fix. And by law giant is clear of any consequences from his surgeries, thats why he is in turkey. He litteraly does surgeries without any kind of responsibility. If things go wrong the patient is left alone with the local doctors where he lives.
I hear you. And yeah, that makes sense.

Although idk about the "by law giant is clear of any consequences from his surgeries"
Do you have any proof of that? Is it written in the contract? Or what?

Because what I've heard is that turkey used to be a risky place for surgeries due to slack regulation, but that it has since improved a lot since medical tourism is very beneficial to their economy.

He is not a jew, many people just do things for money no matter the ethics involved
Yes ofc, I'm just being sarcastic there.

Yes it is but when the result are subpar on ehat he markets his result too be its not favorable. I am sure many patients would agree upon sharing result if eyes and the not affected areas is blurred. You need to be really low iq to not realize this.
Yeah absolutely, ofc he wouldn't want his results shared IF they're subpar. But then again, he shares them on Zoom so technically he does share them to those who are serious.
I am sure many patients would agree upon sharing result if eyes and the not affected areas is blurred.
But it's still a good point ^
 
I don't know, it's possible Giant's is just done differently and the scarring fades away with time.

Yeah I mean Giant will give you results I'm sure, but I doubt they're going to be much different, otherwise ONE of those results would be posted by now.

Regarding Ape101 I don't know if it's his results I saw or not, but it was someone who got Tripod/OBO. Their PFL actually visually decreased which was interesting, making the effect of the OBO even worse possibly, and yes their skull looks wider for some reason.
That's because it was never meant to increase pfl, this was just to take advantage of people whom have a small pfl.

It's scientifically impossible to elongate the eyes (aka sclera).
 
I'm not talking about "just making a skull look good". But about GOOD design vs BAD design.

Design that leads to complications vs ones that dont.

Designs that lead to poor aesthetic outcomes vs ones that dont.

That's my point.

And before u repeat your point about his design having higher risks of complications, present the evidence of that then. Not just supporting evidence from studies, because I believe that exists. But instead actual evidence, because that's what matters. Reality > theory.

"holy brain iq" if we use our brains for a second, if giant and his stuff was truly that horrible and unsafe, we'd see a lot more complaints about it.

But we don't.

OOOOHHH BUT THAT MUST MEAN THAT HE IS A JEW that's making people sign NDAs right...? Rightt..

If anything, it is literally his incentive for ppl to be more public with their results so that his rep goes up.
Not to say anything bad, but those are few results of the handful out there, I'll let you decide.
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