God doesn't exist. Prove me wrong.

[True truecel]

Yeah, maybe? Cuz for every action there’s a reaction

but based on what

like based on what did you come to that conclusion, is it in a religious text, is it from your own reasoning, is it a consensus with a group of people or something else

like idk bro I too can say random blanket statements uk what I mean

 

[True truecel]

But is it okay if we debate in Greenlandic. Kalaallisut, Inuktun or even Tunumiisut don’t mind the dialect tbh

bro ur lowkey mad funny im ngl

no i do NOT know greenlandic

 

[True truecel]

exactly what was going through my mind when I made that title

 

[Deleted member 159489]

U also say it everyone on this forum says it

stop blabbering and debate him then you stupid nigger

 

[subhuman1996]

bro ur lowkey mad funny im ngl

no i do NOT know greenlandic

If u think I’m funny go check my storytime threads ur def going to like it

 

[Mainlander]

@True truecel

Still What I find so mistaken about the traditional definition of God is the assumption that He must be the strongest and most omnipotent of all

In another dimension from which this cause originates this something might not even hold great significance and perhaps never intended to give us any meaning at all

And yet the first cause arose and that is what we may call God

But this God with high probabilit grants us no deeper purpose beyond the fact that we now exist

 

[existingandliving]

Is this guy really trying to use logic with religious people fucking retard

if mohommed was a prophet of an all knowing god, you would expect him to break free of social norms you degenerate monkey.

 

[Klasik616]

@True truecel

Still What I find so mistaken about the traditional definition of God is the assumption that He must be the strongest and most omnipotent of all

In another dimension from which this cause originates this something might not even hold great significance and perhaps never intended to give us any meaning at all

And yet the first cause arose and that is what we may call God

But this God with high probabilit grants us no deeper purpose beyond the fact that we now exist

This explanation of God is meaningless and can't be alligned with any religion, with this definition religions are still unproved right. Also this is purely a logical answer that lies in your mind but no in reality, and phenomenoms can't be deduced by logic but rather a probability based on previous phenomenoms (habitus) that *can be seen*. If we see a building on fire we deduce something caused it based on our previous experiences but that answer could be wrong. If we could prove Jesus is 50% human and 50% angelic atleast we would have proof angels exist but not more than that. Religion is brain rot the most, discussing about it is useless.

 

[Kroker]

but based on what

like based on what did you come to that conclusion, is it in a religious text, is it from your own reasoning, is it a consensus with a group of people or something else

like idk bro I too can say random blanket statements uk what I mean

It’s just don’t sit right with me, HOW can you cause suffering to innocents and NOT to get punished for it? Some might get caught and get worldly justice (So we can like exclude those) from the equation, but for their victims there should be reward for their sufferings.

Now for those who didn’t get caught, they must have some punishment for their sins (Sins that everybody acknowledges, don’t must be strictly related to a certain belief or religion) just common sense, those fuckwits must be punished, also their victim get their reward for suffering.

Another great deal of similar situation is those whom are born with defects/terminal illness, there should be compensation for their misfortune.

 

[Mainlander]

This explanation of God is meaningless and can't be alligned with any religion, with this definition religions are still unproved right. Also this is purely a logical answer that lies in your mind but no in reality.

Im not Religious brother

My explanation as I said myself does not give us a deeper meaning

The explanation only give the only possible god that would make sense

its just a redefinition of the word god

nothing more

 

[unstable]

real multitasker
and who is the cute little foid in your: i dont know what is that called, below your post ig
i belive in god debate me also my god is not omnipotent or omniscient

 

[d0wnpour_]

so if it cant be proven or disproven what impact does that have on anything in the real world at all

It impacts how you perceive and interact with the world like any other belief system that cannot be proven to be right or proven to be superior to any other belief system. Religion and the rules following it will change how you live usually and also change how you feel about certain topics. very basic explanation of why it can matter

 

[True truecel]

God is the basis of basically every religion.

ehhhh yea

not every religion though

I would say the abrahamic religions believe in God capital G, but a lot of other religions believe in polytheism, and theres also tribal religions and other animal worshipping stuff and Sun worshipping stuff

My theory is that people naturally gravitate towards creating a figure of authority in their head because of human biology and how we perceive who the "Alpha" is in a group. And there can only be one Alpha as corny as that sounds, that's why most people prefer monotheistic religions

also there are other factors like how effective religious tenants and principles are at sustaining that religion and convincing followers

 

[Chadville]

I will debate anyone, I'm bored. God doesn't exist, and religion is most often used as a tool to control people.

I don't care what religion you believe in, they are all wrong

You can‘t „prove“ wheter god exists or not

 

[TACOCEL_]

I will debate anyone, I'm bored. God doesn't exist, and religion is most often used as a tool to control people.

I don't care what religion you believe in, they are all wrong

 

[True truecel]

real multitasker
and who is the cute little foid in your: i dont know what is that called, below your post ig
i belive in god debate me also my god is not omnipotent or omniscient

ikr, ts is lowkey taxing

okay what God, any name or just God? any particular religion? and what does the God do/enforce/tell you to do?

 

[4Christ_sake]

I will debate anyone, I'm bored. God doesn't exist, and religion is most often used as a tool to control people.

I don't care what religion you believe in, they are all wrong

to illustrate a building has a builder that builder is creator and the building is a creation so if u use that illustration you can say everything here (natural like plants and animals) must have a creator (God)

 

[True truecel]

You can‘t „prove“ wheter god exists or not

valid take ngl

i should probably change my post but I want to keep it as is for ragebait

but I agree yes, ideas like God's existence cannot be proven or disproven

 

[unstable]

ikr, ts is lowkey taxing

okay what God, any name or just God? any particular religion? and what does the God do/enforce/tell you to do?

just the god (i am also bored and doing out of loneliness)

 

[unstable]

to illustrate a building has a builder that builder is creator and the building is a creation so if u use that illustration you can say everything here (natural like plants and animals) must have a creator (God)

but that also posits god must also have creator so you believe that the line of continuous causation stops at god while some believe that it stops at bigbang

 

[True truecel]

to illustrate a building has a builder that builder is creator and the building is a creation so if u use that illustration you can say everything here (natural like plants and animals) must have a creator (God)

firstly, analogies have no scientific basis, but ur probably just saying logically to think about it so i'll consider that

this is God of the gaps fallacy

its just stating that because we don't know how Life, I guess in your example, came to be, surely there must be a creator of life. its not a bad conclusion at first glance, but its just an excuse

I can instead say, no, there were multiple alien beings who created life as we know it, and those alien beings are outside the scope of our universe/aren't affected by time/are malevolent and using Earth for experimentation etc - just random claims that can't be proven or disproven, just like how saying God created life can't be proven or disproven

 

[Mainlander]

Come to Jesus

He will safe you from your sins

 

[Klasik616]

ehhhh yea

not every religion though

I would say the abrahamic religions believe in God capital G, but a lot of other religions believe in polytheism, and theres also tribal religions and other animal worshipping stuff and Sun worshipping stuff

My theory is that people naturally gravitate towards creating a figure of authority in their head because of human biology and how we perceive who the "Alpha" is in a group. And there can only be one Alpha as corny as that sounds, that's why most people prefer monotheistic religions

also there are other factors like how effective religious tenants and principles are at sustaining that religion and convincing followers

This is a psychological explanation of why people think this way or why the power of religion affects the masses and not the people in the upper structure. God cannot be proven because there isn't such a thing in nature, another reason why people call themselves believers because they can't convince atheists with their own ideas since they lack enough base, they have to believe in some axioms like "Universe has a creator" or other tales such as The Bible to keep the story going.

 

[True truecel]

just the god (i am also bored and doing out of loneliness)

I can tell

bruh so like

what does the God do, does he impact your life in anyway, what is his motive, what are his powers, where did you come to the conclusion about the existence of your God, where is he located (or is he above spacetime)

 

[True truecel]

Come to Jesus

He will safe you from your sins

I have a question

Do you believe all other religions are false, and Christianity is the only 1 true religion?

 

[Mainlander]

I have a question

Do you believe all other religions are false, and Christianity is the only 1 true religion?

Have you read my messages on this posts op?

JFL that you cant see that this is satire

 

[unstable]

I can tell

bruh so like

what does the God do, does he impact your life in anyway, what is his motive, what are his powers, where did you come to the conclusion about the existence of your God, where is he located (or is he above spacetime)

he is sentient and probably can do everything the universe can do

 

[True truecel]

Have you read my messages on this posts op?

JFL that you cant see that this is satire

I lowkey forgot who you were mb I was arguing with like 10 other people at the same time

 

[True truecel]

he is sentient and probably can do everything the universe can do

wtf

but where did you come to this conclusion, did you just reason it by yourself

 

[unstable]

wtf

but where did you come to this conclusion, did you just reason it by yourself

my conclusion comes from the facts that even small changes in fundamental constants of universe can stop universe from forming i know this could imply survival bias but this to happen(prior universe have not been proven) is so rare that it demands sentient creator

 

[zeref74]

Im pretty sure a god does exist

He committed suicide

 

[Chasingthedream569]

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Feel free to join I'm open for a debate

 

[True truecel]

It’s just don’t sit right with me, HOW can you cause suffering to innocents and NOT to get punished for it? Some might get caught and get worldly justice (So we can like exclude those) from the equation, but for their victims there should be reward for their sufferings.

Now for those who didn’t get caught, they must have some punishment for their sins (Sins that everybody acknowledges, don’t must be strictly related to a certain belief or religion) just common sense, those fuckwits must be punished, also their victim get their reward for suffering.

Another great deal of similar situation is those whom are born with defects/terminal illness, there should be compensation for their misfortune.

yeah but see what you're doing? you are projecting your ideal view of justice upon the world, saying if X happens then Y should also happen

based on what? like genuinely based on what

it just doesn't mean anything bro

I agree that people who commit bad crimes should be punished, but all we can do is seek justice through the physical world, there is no evidence that bad people will go to hell, that there is a hell, or that theyll get what's coming for them

 

[Chasingthedream569]

yeah but see what you're doing? you are projecting your ideal view of justice upon the world, saying if X happens then Y should also happen

based on what? like genuinely based on what

it just doesn't mean anything bro

I agree that people who commit bad crimes should be punished, but all we can do is seek justice through the physical world, there is no evidence that bad people will go to hell, that there is a hell, or that theyll get what's coming for them

There is literal evidence of people dying coming back to life who met Jesus, about 48% of people that did die officially and came back to life meet Jesus, guess where the other half went?

 

[Deleted member 109023]

so if it cant be proven or disproven what impact does that have on anything in the real world at all

I mean on the world nothing, but on your life yeah.

You cant mathematically prove or disprove God, you basically trust on the evidence. The same way you cant prove your mother or father wont stab you on the back while you sleep, you basically trust on the evidence that they love you and wont

 

[unstable]

There is literal evidence of people dying coming back to life who met Jesus, about 48% of people that did die officially and came back to life meet Jesus, guess where the other half went?

even courts don't rely on testimonies and you want us to believe in god over this my argument is best you get for god

 

[Mainlander]

He committed suicide

Mainländer reference

 

[True truecel]

my conclusion comes from the facts that even small changes in fundamental constants of universe can stop universe from forming i know this could imply survival bias but this to happen(prior universe have not been proven) is so rare that it demands sentient creator

ohhhh

this is a religious talking point but i might have to use it: just because something isn't proven doesn't mean it doesn't/didn't exist. This means as you said there could have been X number of universes without life, everything obviously just happened to click in this universe, because we exist therefore we can perceive the supposed "rarity" of our situation, when we have no idea how many times the universal dice have been rolled already

also, I swear this is just a probability fallacy. Everything in this universe is "rare", it just depends on what you consider valuable vs. common. We are living beings, so naturally we consider human life/life in general as rare and valuable, but from the Universe's perspective, it really doesnt matter.

For example, if I wave my hand, oxygen and nitrogen molecules in my room form an extremely unique, rare alignment of air that has never been seen before in the history of the universe in that particular region of space. but no one gives a shit because obviously we wouldn't consider that rare

 

[Mumbai_HTN]

jfl, just reading through this thread its an astounding number of iqlets on here. Especially the christ cells

 

[True truecel]

I mean on the world nothing, but on your life yeah.

You cant mathematically prove or disprove God, you basically trust on the evidence. The same way you cant prove your mother or father wont stab you on the back while you sleep, you basically trust on the evidence that they love you and wont

okay great

what evidence? from what religious text/or source do you derive the evidence?

 

[True truecel]

jfl, just reading through this thread its an astounding number of iqlets on here. Especially the christ cells

ikr lol

 

[unstable]

ohhhh

this is a religious talking point but i might have to use it: just because something isn't proven doesn't mean it doesn't/didn't exist. This means as you said there could have been X number of universes without life, everything obviously just happened to click in this universe, because we exist therefore we can perceive the supposed "rarity" of our situation, when we have no idea how many times the universal dice have been rolled already

also, I swear this is just a probability fallacy. Everything in this universe is "rare", it just depends on what you consider valuable vs. common. We are living beings, so naturally we consider human life/life in general as rare and valuable, but from the Universe's perspective, it really doesnt matter.

For example, if I wave my hand, oxygen and nitrogen molecules in my room form an extremely unique, rare alignment of air that has never been seen before in the history of the universe in that particular region of space. but no one gives a shit because obviously we wouldn't consider that rare

as i said earlier there is no proof for other universes or prior universes

 

[True truecel]

There is literal evidence of people dying coming back to life who met Jesus, about 48% of people that did die officially and came back to life meet Jesus, guess where the other half went?

source?

 

[Chasingthedream569]

even courts don't rely on testimonies and you want us to believe in god over this my argument is best you get for god

Yes bro everyone who died and came back to life meeting jesus just lies randomly about meeting Jesus, because why not? Wow

 

[True truecel]

as i said earlier there is no proof for other universes or prior universes

what about the second thing

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

I will debate anyone, I'm bored. God doesn't exist, and religion is most often used as a tool to control people.

I don't care what religion you believe in, they are all wrong

I won't argue for a specific God

But how can you disprove some of the more well documented reincarnation anecdotes ?

 

[True truecel]

Why Jesus Christ is real and you should repent for your sins before its too late - From a og user | Looksmax.org - Men's Self-Improvement & Aesthetics https://share.google/vY2jKYvZ9WoOqR1B4



Feel free to join I'm open for a debate

bruh just debate on here

 

[Chasingthedream569]

source?

Internet is free to use, just search In YouTube NDO, it doesn't have to be Christianity based, hospital workers stories etc. It's not that hard to believe but it's impossible to convince a person who will never believe despite the evidence, also look at the shroud of turin

 

[unstable]

what about the second thing

what does that mean

 

[Chasingthedream569]

source?

Also NDO, meaning "near death experiences"