God doesn’t have a plan for you

[Deleted member 2100]

You’re on your own jfl. That nigga doesn’t give a fuck about anyone. Or else you wouldn’t be suffering and there wouldn’t be kids getting diddled across the world. The harsh truth is the only one responsible for your destiny is you.

 

[fluxx]

not you but ur genetics

 

[Deleted member 120487]

which god?

 

[Deleted member 2100]

not you but ur genetics

Genetics is part of you, determines a lot in life

 

[Deleted member 124684]

if god is real he is evil

 

[Deleted member 2100]

which god?

Any god people believe in.

 

[Deleted member 2100]

if god is real he is evil

True, he probably gets a kick out of watching sub-5s suffer

 

[Deleted member 124684]

True, he probably gets a kick out of watching sub-5s suffer

he looks down on humanity and sees the utter destruction and chaos, and all he does is sit back and relax. if there even is a god

 

[Deleted member 2100]

he looks down on humanity and sees the utter destruction and chaos, and all he does is sit back and relax. if there even is a god

No there isn’t a god, god doesn’t exist

 

[Deleted member 120487]

Any god people believe in.

bro you are not underage, you joined in 2019

can you grow up pls

 

[R@m@]

Genetics is part of you, determines a lot in life

Who is "you"

 

[Deleted member 2100]

bro you are not underage, you joined in 2019

can you grow up pls

Wtf are you talking about? I’m giving my opinion.

Who is "you"

People in general

 

[StupidHedonist_INTP]

Who is "you"

You are your genetics and past experiences, they dictate your thoughts, emotions, beliefs, opinions, intelligence, personality, characteristics etc, so if we made someone have the same genetics and past experiences as you, they would quite literally be YOU.

 

[ngannou]

He made a plan and he already finished Jesus Christ died in the cross for our sins and resurrected and through that those who believe in him will be saved

 

[StupidHedonist_INTP]

That's why I am a determinist, I think that there was only one possible thing you could've chosen based on the factors you were given, if somebody was placed in the exact same situation as you with the same factors, they would also do what you did, proving that our actions are inevitable and unavoidable which disproves every religion that believes in free will and responsibility.

 

[Deleted member 2100]

He made a plan and he already finished Jesus Christ died in the cross for our sins and resurrected and through that those who believe in him will be saved

Nigga killed his own son when he coulda forgiven our sins to begin with.

That's why I am a determinist, I think that there was only one possible thing you could've chosen based on the factors you were given, if somebody was placed in the exact same situation as you with the same factors, they would also do what you did, proving that our actions are inevitable and unavoidable which disproves every religion that believes in free will and responsibility.

I agree but I lean towards we have more control over our actions.

 

[ngannou]

Nigga killed his own son when he coulda forgiven our sins to begin with.

I agree but I lean towards we have more control over our actions.

In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.
Without sacrifice of blood there is no cleanse of sins that is the rule God made.
So the before Christ coming Jews always sacrificed animals for their sins

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

You’re on your own jfl. That nigga doesn’t give a fuck about anyone. Or else you wouldn’t be suffering and there wouldn’t be kids getting diddled across a world. The harsh truth is the only one responsible for your destiny is you.

True

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

I used to believe in God but it’s just flawed I’m ngl, like God’s omnipotence and that he is always good + free will doesn’t make sense T all

 

[Deleted member 117288]

I used to believe in God but it’s just flawed I’m ngl, like God’s omnipotence and that he is always good + free will doesn’t make sense T all

It's what makes most sense out of all theories.

 

[StupidHedonist_INTP]

I agree but I lean towards we have more control over our actions.

I mean we have "control" in a sense that we choose things, but if we could have only chosen one thing, are we really responsible, if God put you back in time erasing your memories in the process and putting you in the exact same situation with the exact same thoughts and desires (everything that influences your decision making), how could you choose a different thing, you are going to have the same thought process and conclusion, and you're gonna end up choosing the same thing you've chosen the first time, no matter how many times we repeat this experiment, the result will always be the same, because equal factors cause equal results every single time.

 

[StupidHedonist_INTP]

In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.
Without sacrifice of blood there is no cleanse of sins that is the rule God made.
So the before Christ coming Jews always sacrificed animals for their sins

Uhm, couldn't god change that "law"?

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

It's what makes most sense out of all theories.

How?

God knows and controls everything that’s gonna happened before it happens

God gives free will and created Lucifer knowing what he will do

 

[ngannou]

Uhm, couldn't god change that "law"?

He takes sin seriously so I don’t think he will do that. By just forgiving without believing in Jesus Christ because he is the sacrifice for sins

 

[Deleted member 117288]

How?

God knows and controls everything that’s gonna happened before it happens

God gives free will and created Lucifer knowing what he will do

Yes, Satan or formerly Lucifer was created by God.
Because everything including evil was allowed to propagate to it's own will by God.
He knew that evil was gonna happen, because he is everything.
Everything is a part of him and he is a part of everything.

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

He takes sin seriously so I don’t think he will do that. By just forgiving

The biggest thing I’m confused about is how did the whole satan taking over thing happen before God created the world?

It states God created Adam and Eve right at the beginning of the world, but the serpent also exists, which is “Satan” that used to be Lucifer

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

Yes, Satan or formerly Lucifer was created by God.
Because everything including evil was allowed to propagate to it's own will by God.
He knew that evil was gonna happen, because he is everything.
Everything is a part of him and he is a part of everything.

So God willingly created sin into the world

 

[Deleted member 117288]

So God willingly created sin into the world

Yes, isn't it obvious?

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

Yes, isn't it obvious?

Doesn’t that go against the whole “God is pure good and has never sinned in his life”

 

[StupidHedonist_INTP]

He takes sin seriously so I don’t think he will do that. By just forgiving without believing in Jesus Christ because he is the sacrifice for sins

Uhm, if he takes sins so seriously, he would have removed it altogether, he's powerful enough to eradicate it.

 

[Deleted member 117288]

Doesn’t that go against the whole “God is pure good and has never sinned in his life”

Who said that? The Christians?
Yes, maybe.
According to their theory, God sent out his son to save humans from such sins.
And he being the son of God, didn't commit any sins and is pure.
Therefore since God is a part of him,
and he is a part of God.
God is pure and is sinless(in a sense)

 

[Deleted member 2100]

I used to believe in God but it’s just flawed I’m ngl, like God’s omnipotence and that he is always good + free will doesn’t make sense T all

God is not good, or else my life would not be so unfairly shit as it is now.

I mean we have "control" in a sense that we choose things, but if we could have only chosen one thing, are we really responsible, if God put you back in time erasing your memories in the process and putting you in the exact same situation with the exact same thoughts and desires (everything that influences your decision making), how could you choose a different thing, you are going to have the same thought process and conclusion, and you're gonna end up choosing the same thing you've chosen the first time, no matter how many times we repeat this experiment, the result will always be the same, because equal factors cause equal results every single time.

I agree. I’ve thought about going back to the past and changing things. But things would only change if I have my mindset from current day.

 

[StupidHedonist_INTP]

Yes, isn't it obvious?

Why did he do that? Wouldn't an all good being never allow evil to exist?

 

[ngannou]

The biggest thing I’m confused about is how did the whole satan taking over thing happen before God created the world?

It states God created Adam and Eve right at the beginning of the world, but the serpent also exists, which is “Satan” that used to be Lucifer

Not sure about that.
But in the Genesis it mentions the first creation of this universe mostly which is a physical dimension maybe he created the spiritual world even before he made the physical world

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

God is not good, or else my life would not be so unfairly shit as it is now.

I agree. I’ve thought about going back to the past and changing things. But things would only change if I have my mindset from current day.

Same. I’ve always been a Christian since birth and have always been a good/nice person, according to everybody around me. However, didn’t stop them from treating me like absolute shit.

 

[Deleted member 117288]

Why did he do that? Wouldn't an all good being never allow evil to exist?

I never advocated for the idea of God being, all good and pure.
Because everything including evil was allowed to propagate to it's own will by God.
He knew that evil was gonna happen, because he is everything.
Everything is a part of him and he is a part of everything.

 

[Deleted member 2100]

Same. I’ve always been a Christian since birth and have always been a good/nice person, according to everybody around me. However, didn’t stop them from treating me like absolute shit.

Real shit man. I’ve only ever been nice to everyone(not expecting anything in return) and I only get shit on. Everyone treats me like utter garbage and with disrespect.

 

[StupidHedonist_INTP]

I never advocated for the idea of God being, all good and pure.
Because everything including evil was allowed to propagate to it's own will by God.
He knew that evil was gonna happen, because he is everything.
Everything is a part of him and he is a part of everything.

So you think god isn't all good and pure? Wouldn't that contradict most religions since they believe in an all-loving and all-good god?

 

[Deleted member 117288]

So you think god isn't all good and pure? Wouldn't that contradict most religions since they believe in an all-loving and all-good god?

Yes, most religions are misinterpreted and I don't think they would make much sense in a non-supernatural, logical perspective.

Christianity and Judaism however, are higher in probability of being more accurate about God than let's say "Islam" Which literally just means "peace".
I see how you could make arguments for those two religions, not Islam tho.
Cause of the simple reason of it being a ripoff created by a genius business man warlord to get more power.

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

Real shit man. I’ve only ever been nice to everyone(not expecting anything in return) and I only get shit on. Everyone treats me like utter garbage and with disrespect.

Exactly man. I was taught that “kindness would reward me.”

Instead, they viewed me kindness as weakness and that I’m an easy person to take advantage of.

It’s so fucking unfair man. These two 6’3 tall upperclassmen men used to pick on me and force me to fight them sometimes.
Right now there living prosperous lives and doing good in their sport, while I’m just rotting.

It’s not fucking fair, I got robbed out of my genetics bro. I had tall parents yet I ended up 5’6. If I became 6 ft according to my parents genes, I could’ve actually pursued my sport more

 

[ngannou]

Same. I’ve always been a Christian since birth and have always been a good/nice person, according to everybody around me. However, didn’t stop them from treating me like absolute shit.

In the book of Job it says

On what were its footings set, or who laid its cornerstone— while the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy

Morning Star which refers to angels they say angels sang when God laid cornerstone in earth, so probably the spiritual realm was existing before the the physical word created from empty to something

 

[Deleted member 117288]

Yes, most religions are misinterpreted and I don't think they would make much sense in a non-supernatural, logical perspective.

Christianity and Judaism however, are higher in probability of being more accurate about God than let's say "Islam" Which literally just means "peace".
I see how you could make arguments for those two religions, not Islam tho.
Cause of the simple reason of it being a ripoff created by a genius business man warlord to get more power.

Actually, to add more.
I take that statement back.
Muhammed didn't know how to write, he ain't a genius.
But I guess he has some tactical planning abilities?

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

Not sure about that.
But in the Genesis it mentions the first creation of this universe mostly which is a physical dimension maybe he created the spiritual world even before he made the physical world

So the whole Lucifer becoming a fallen angel process happend in one day, and they just never mentioned it?

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

In the book of Job it says

On what were its footings set, or who laid its cornerstone— while the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy

Morning Star which refers to angels they say angels sang when God laid cornerstone in earth, so probably the spiritual realm was existing before the the physical word created from empty to something

Actually, to add more.
I take that statement back.
Muhammed didn't know how to write, he ain't a genius.
But I guess he has some tactical planning abilities?

Also what are you guys thoughts on the many different religions existing all at once. Even if a God were to exist, how can you be sure you picked the right one? If you didn’t, you end up in hell your entire life.

 

[StupidHedonist_INTP]

Yes, most religions are misinterpreted and I don't think they would make much sense in a non-supernatural, logical perspective.

Christianity and Judaism however, are higher in probability of being more accurate about God than let's say "Islam" Which literally just means "peace".
I see how you could make arguments for those two religions, not Islam tho.
Cause of the simple reason of it being a ripoff created by a genius business man warlord to get more power.

Hmm, I don't think islam means peace, you can Google this, but regardless, what do we get from these religions especially when the God isn't all good and therefore doesn't have the best intentions... aren't empathy and intelligence enough for humanity?

 

[StupidHedonist_INTP]

Actually, to add more.
I take that statement back.
Muhammed didn't know how to write, he ain't a genius.
But I guess he has some tactical planning abilities?

I mean, not knowing how to write doesn't mean you aren't a genius, you gotta understand the context also, one of the arguments for islam was that the quran wasn't written by Muhammad since he didn't know how to write and if somebody else wrote it, they would 100% take the credit and say that the prophet is lying about the book being from God, he was really intelligent, has better manipulation and influence than Light lowkey (a bit of trolling since Lights opponents were much stronger so he probably has better manipulation and influence as well)

 

[Deleted member 117288]

Hmm, I don't think islam means peace, you can Google this, but regardless, what do we get from these religions especially when the God isn't all good and therefore doesn't have the best intentions... aren't empathy and intelligence enough for humanity?

I don't think normal people need such religions,
especially not in today's world.
It's meant for depressed or lost folk, who are on the verge of ending it.
Some being outside of the material realm, existing.
Gives them some hope.

Also, these religious texts didn't actually come from nothing.
They provide good insight and perspective towards life.
A perspective of the individual whose brain was used as a project machinery for the Godly thought process.

 

[Deleted member 117288]

I mean, not knowing how to write doesn't mean you aren't a genius, you gotta understand the context also, one of the arguments for islam was that the quran wasn't written by Muhammad since he didn't know how to write and if somebody else wrote it, they would 100% take the credit and say that the prophet is lying about the book being from God, he was really intelligent, has better manipulation and influence than Light lowkey (a bit of trolling since Lights opponents were much stronger so he probably has better manipulation and influence as well)

Islam is a ripoff of Judaism, the ancient Arabians were pagans.
They yearned for a monotheistic religion.
And Muhammed(actually his puppets) delivered.

 

[StupidHedonist_INTP]

I don't think normal people need such religions,
especially not in today's world.
It's meant for depressed or lost folk, who are on the verge of ending it.
Some being outside of the material realm, existing.
Gives them some hope.

Also, these religious texts didn't actually come from nothing.
They provide good insight and perspective towards life.
A perspective of the individual whose brain was used as a project machinery for the Godly thought process.

Uhm, well it is at best genius level, but nothing like infinite iq inspired words.

 

[Deleted member 125888]

Fuck God. I have a plan for him.