God either doesnt exist or is Evil.

[kenibba]

God cannot be all powerful, and all good, and all knowing, all the while simultaneously allowing evil and injustice in the world. its a contradiction christians cannot makeup for and use so much mental gymnastics to justify. God is either nonexistent, or God is all powerful but not all good, or he is all good but not all powerful.

 

[kenibba]

b

 

[canthus]

God isn't real and if he did he was he would be evil. "Muh free will" him allowing that itself would be evil

 

[EliasDePoop]

God cannot be all powerful, and all good, and all knowing, all the while simultaneously allowing evil and injustice in the world. its a contradiction christians cannot makeup for and use so much mental gymnastics to justify. God is either nonexistent, or God is all powerful but not all good, or he is all good but not all powerful.

Its all how you interpret it but you have too low of an iq for that

 

[DaggosHardBrawler]

God cannot be all powerful, and all good, and all knowing, all the while simultaneously allowing evil and injustice in the world. its a contradiction christians cannot makeup for and use so much mental gymnastics to justify. God is either nonexistent, or God is all powerful but not all good, or he is all good but not all powerful.

Are you joking? God allows evil to occur because if be controlled us that means we aren’t human by definition. God made this to test us and good people go to heaven. This is just a test and you’re asking the right questions but don’t make statements that simply aren’t factual. Also, maybe it’s cuz I’m Muslim but I really don’t get what you mean. God is all powerful. He made this and doesn’t interfere as a test to humans. That’s like saying a martial artist isn’t powerful if he doesn’t knock people out. God forgives when he wants to forgive. God grants mercy when he wants to grant mercy. But when people commit evil, god isn’t happy with that and they’re either punished in this life or the next.

 

[kenibba]

Its all how you interpret it but you have too low of an iq for that

what is this stupid cope. get a grip nigger.

 

[EliasDePoop]

what is this stupid cope. get a grip nigger.

Right or wrong doesnt exist, just a popular opinion

 

[canthus]

what is this stupid cope. get a grip nigger.

We are our own god. Nobody is coming to save us. JFL at religious iqlet normies

 

[kenibba]

God grants mercy when he wants to grant mercy. But when people commit evil, god isn’t happy with that and they’re either punished in this life or the next.

but why allow evil even as a test to humanity. how is allowing a tsunami to wipe out a city of humans justified, how is allowing human traffickers to traffic children to child SA'rs justified. if God was ALL GOOD, he wouldnt allow Evil to exist AT ALL, not to test his creations or anything.

 

[kenibba]

Right or wrong doesnt exist, just a popular opinion

are you retarded by any chance

 

[kenibba]

We are our own god. Nobody is coming to save us. JFL at religious iqlet normies

i agree.

 

[tapist]

God cannot be all powerful, and all good, and all knowing, all the while simultaneously allowing evil and injustice in the world. its a contradiction christians cannot makeup for and use so much mental gymnastics to justify. God is either nonexistent, or God is all powerful but not all good, or he is all good but not all powerful.

religion is cope for existence

 

[kenibba]

religion is cope for existence

ya

 

[DaggosHardBrawler]

but why allow evil even as a test to humanity. how is allowing a tsunami to wipe out a city of humans justified, how is allowing human traffickers to traffic children to child SA'rs justified. if God was ALL GOOD, we wouldnt allow Evil to exist AT ALL, not to test his creations or anything.

So a natural disaster is evil? People struggling is evil? God isn’t the one who made the natural disaster happen, scientifically is was going to happen. God simply didn’t interfere. The way you understand and move forward is how you win or lose in the next life. God by definition is the Most Kind but that doesn’t mean he’s ALL GOOD. No one said that. He’s the best entity, but it’s simply a test. What do you think is going to happen to a human trafficker in the next life? Punishment you can’t even imagine for eternity. What do you think happens to a person who never loses faith when being tested or gets back up when they lose faith and regains their faith? They gain an eternity of joy and heaven. Stop basing your whole view on faith in a moment of time that won’t even be an atom in comparison to the next life.

 

[kenibba]

So a natural disaster is evil? People struggling is evil? God isn’t the one who made the natural disaster happen,

they are unjust when they kill thousands of people. and God is the one who made the natural disaster happen IF he is all powerful unless you concede he isnt all powerful.

 

[hax]

check out @theprisoncalledlife on youtube, he explains his view on life, kinda reminds me of rehab room if he talked about himself.

 

[DaggosHardBrawler]

they are unjust when they kill thousands of people. and God is the one who made the natural disaster happen IF he is all powerful unless you concede he isnt all powerful.

God is all powerful. Once again, the world is a test. Is this impossible to comprehend for you? Scientifically, the natural disaster WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. God COULD STOP IT, but he didn’t. Why? Because this world is a test FOR HUMANITY. If god helped us with everything, wouldn’t the world be heaven? Logically think about it. Your claim doesn’t logically make sense. And if god made everything perfect, and we knew he existed, wouldn’t we always just workship him. What would make us different from angels? It’s because we aren’t angels. We’re human. This world is a test.

 

[kenibba]

Scientifically, the natural disaster WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. God COULD STOP IT, but he didn’t. Why? Because this world is a test FOR HUMANITY.

so allowing the death and suffering of thousands of innocent people is okay and God is still all Good because this is a muh test for Humanity. what a ridiculous argument. how is allowing this injustice in which none of us can control a test for us. you have been brainwashed.

 

[DaggosHardBrawler]

so allowing the death and suffering of thousands of innocent people is okay and God is still all Good because this is a muh test for Humanity. what a ridiculous argument. how is allowing this injustice in which none of us can control a test for us. you have been brainwashed.

Once again, did I ever state god is all good. I specifically addressed this. Why do you keep bringing this p shit I didn’t say. God had no doing in this because he created this world and is just letting it happen. You’re literal a brainwashed aetheist who’s coping so he can go and do what he wants. Stfu and stop arguing if you’re already narrow-minded and arrogant low IQ incel

 

[DaggosHardBrawler]

so allowing the death and suffering of thousands of innocent people is okay and God is still all Good because this is a muh test for Humanity. what a ridiculous argument. how is allowing this injustice in which none of us can control a test for us. you have been brainwashed.

Only in Christianity god is portrayed as all good idk what to tell you

 

[kenibba]

Why do you keep bringing this p shit I didn’t say

its a common statement among christians and other theists that God is all good. which is clearly not the case. hence the reason i made the thread.

 

[kenibba]

Only in Christianity god is portrayed as all good idk what to tell you

the thread was literally addressing christian theology boyo

 

[DaggosHardBrawler]

its a common statement among christians and other theists that God is all good. which is clearly not the case. hence the reason i made the thread.

God is the MOST GOOD, not ALL GOOD. God is the SOURCE OF GOODNESS, not ALL GOOD. So ig it’s just cause you’re looking at the wrong places

 

[DaggosHardBrawler]

the thread was literally addressing christian theology boyo

Yeah that’s probably why

 

[kenibba]

God is the MOST GOOD, not ALL GOOD. God is the SOURCE OF GOODNESS, not ALL GOOD. So ig it’s just cause you’re looking at the wrong places

again, the post was addressing christian theology.

 

[hax]

@DaggosHardBrawler
As much as i respect every single religion and everyone in this world, that doesn't mean i necesarily agree with everything.

I've been trying so hard to "turn to christ" and actually "create a realtionship with God" but i couldn't force it on myself.
I wanted to believe God was real with all my sould until i came to the conclusion that there is no God, there is no justice.

This world hasn't been fair since the begening of times, it's not "God's creations making it unfair", it was unfair since it begun.

People who turn to god and genuinely say it improved their lives are right though, they stop sinning, lusting and all that shit and always look on the bright side of things, of course, once you get this mindset, everything seems so much better and easier, no need to praise God for making basic biology work on you.

When something great happends, it's because "It's a sign of God" or that "It's God thaking you"
But when something horrible happends, it's because "God is testing you" or "It must've had a reason"

With that way of thinking, of course God is going to seem real.

I feel like God is just a coping mechanism, humans can't accept the fact that there is no meaning to life, no rewards, no evidence of living after this life. People can't accept that they were born to live and die, that there is a deeper meaning behind that, and it is completely understandable; if I could wake up, believeing in God, I would absolutely, it gives a sort of meaning to life, promising something better than "God's own creation".

This is only my opinion at the end of the day so don't take it too personally.

 

[hax]

The bible is other men's interpretation of God, you're basically believing in what people wanted to believe themselves with not a single original though of yours.

Your God can be who you want it to be, you don't specifically have to listen to what other humans tell you to believe just because it's the tradition.

You can interpret you own version of a superior human without having to read a book teaching you how your vision on him should be.

 

[DaggosHardBrawler]

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@DaggosHardBrawler
As much as i respect every single religion and everyone in this world, that doesn't mean i necesarily agree with everything.

I've been trying so hard to "turn to christ" and actually "create a realtionship with God" but i couldn't force it on myself.
I wanted to believe God was real with all my sould until i came to the conclusion that there is no God, there is no justice.

This world hasn't been fair since the begening of times, it's not "God's creations making it unfair", it was unfair since it begun.

People who turn to god and genuinely say it improved their lives are right though, they stop sinning, lusting and all that shit and always look on the bright side of things, of course, once you get this mindset, everything seems so much better and easier, no need to praise God for making basic biology work on you.

When something great happends, it's because "It's a sign of God" or that "It's God thaking you"
But when something horrible happends, it's because "God is testing you" or "It must've had a reason"

With that way of thinking, of course God is going to seem real.

I feel like God is just a coping mechanism, humans can't accept the fact that there is no meaning to life, no rewards, no evidence of living after this life. People can't accept that they were born to live and die, that there is a deeper meaning behind that, and it is completely understandable; if I could wake up, believeing in God, I would absolutely, it gives a sort of meaning to life, promising something better than "God's own creation".

This is only my opinion at the end of the day so don't take it too personally.

I’m not Christian so I think you misread what I’m saying. Also, I never said turning to god makes your life good. It’s about holding on. You can have faith and be struggling with lust, be struggling with wealth, be struggling with sin, etc. That’s why I don’t like people who act like turning to god is guaranteed to fix everything. It’s not. But what it does do is prove your loyalty and faith to him, even when times are tough. If you want to think of that as a coping mechanism, you can think of it as what you want. But this moment in this life is nothing compared to the next.

 

[hax]

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I’m not Christian so I think you misread what I’m saying. Also, I never said turning to god makes your life good. It’s about holding on. You can have faith and be struggling with lust, be struggling with wealth, be struggling with sin, etc. That’s why I don’t like people who act like turning to god is guaranteed to fix everything. It’s not. But what it does do is prove your loyalty and faith to him, even when times are tough. If you want to think of that as a coping mechanism, you can think of it as what you want. But this moment in this life is nothing compared to the next.

I definitely just scrolled really fast throughout the conversation so I did just assume you were Christian and that's on me.

And i do agree, people who turn religious thinking their life will suddenly change have no common sense and should think beyond their expectations.

 

[Mainlander]

God isn't real and if he did he was he would be evil. "Muh free will" him allowing that itself would be evil

Free will doesnt exist

 

[truexeno]

God cannot be all powerful, and all good, and all knowing, all the while simultaneously allowing evil and injustice in the world. its a contradiction christians cannot makeup for and use so much mental gymnastics to justify. God is either nonexistent, or God is all powerful but not all good, or he is all good but not all powerful.

People have bad teeths so dentist aren't real ass statement

 

[kenibba]

People have bad teeths so dentist aren't real ass statement

tell me you're retarded without telling me you're retarded

 

[truexeno]

tell me you're retarded without telling me you're retarded

STOP IM ACTUALLY RETARDED BROOO STOP MAKING FUN OF DISABLED PEOPLE PLEASEEE

 

[mrdouchebag]

Or god is just neutral, bruv. Why does he have to be either evil or good?
Perhaps he is just an observer who never intervenes.

 

[truexeno]

Or god is just neutral, bruv. Why does he have to be either evil or good?
Perhaps he is just an observer who never intervenes.

Yeah would make sense, the game was set with rules & we are the players maybe he will only act when the game is over & when people will be accounted for their actions

 

[canthus]

Free will doesnt exist

Really so if someone showed up to your house rn and murdered your entire family they wouldn’t be using free will? JFL

 

[kenibba]

Free will doesnt exist

i think that if God exists, free will cannot exist. but if there is no God, then free will does exist.

 

[Mainlander]

Really so if someone showed up to your house rn and murdered your entire family they wouldn’t be using free will? JFL

Damn I actually thought you are a smart fella looking at your profil

Never studied a second of philosphy didnt you?

Because this has to be the worst example possible tbh

And yes it wasnt his free will

 

[Mainlander]

i think that if God exists, free will cannot exist. but if there is no God, then free will does exist.

Yall need to study some philosphy

time to read some spinoza watch some alex o conner videos if you are lazy

Free will does not exist with a god or without one doesnt matter

 

[kenibba]

Yall need to study some philosphy

time to read some spinoza watch some alex o conner videos if you are lazy

Free will does not exist with a god or without one doesnt matter

can you explain the basic argument that free will doesnt exist even without God so that i understand. because to my understanding, free will can exist without God because God is the all knowing predetermining factor who can see all of time, which is why within a theistic context free will cant exist but within an atheistic context it can.

 

[aerooooo]

God cannot be all powerful, and all good, and all knowing, all the while simultaneously allowing evil and injustice in the world. its a contradiction christians cannot makeup for and use so much mental gymnastics to justify. God is either nonexistent, or God is all powerful but not all good, or he is all good but not all powerful.

what if evil and god are the same person

 

[Mainlander]

can you explain the basic argument that free will doesnt exist even without God so that i understand. because to my understanding, free will can exist without God because God is the all knowing predetermining factor who can see all of time, which is why within a theistic context free will cant exist but within an atheistic context it can.

A Short Philosophical Writing of mine

This could serve as the beginning of my philosophical book if I ever decide to write it. Its not a fixed start that Im completely committed to just a possibility it would be about Determinism/free will Lookism / Blackpill Rest im not sure yet In truth, the only time you are, you belong to...

looksmax.org

Its all about determinism

Alex o conner has two good videos about it you should watch it

 

[kenibba]

A Short Philosophical Writing of mine

This could serve as the beginning of my philosophical book if I ever decide to write it. Its not a fixed start that Im completely committed to just a possibility it would be about Determinism/free will Lookism / Blackpill Rest im not sure yet In truth, the only time you are, you belong to...

looksmax.org

Its all about determinism

Alex o conner has two good videos about it you should watch it

alright thanks.