GOD EXISTS

[iwannabeloved2]

alr my mischievous i will repeat it but only once:
non-existence does not exist
so god cannot be non-existing
so he does exist

yeah sure now whats ur rule of inference

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

but i've never claimed that he is the creator of universe
and yeah existence in head=existence in reality, because he can't think about what does not exist, because when we are thinking about "nothing" or "non-being" then they are already becoming anything, and anything is already exists, so it's impossible to think about something that doesn't not exist. Thus if he are able to think about god, then he does exist

So what are you even trying to argue

If you’re not even trying to argue the existence of the biblical god, this conversation is worthless. I’m agnostic, I can’t say some type of god “doesn’t exist” because I can’t know

What I refute is the Christian god

 

[iwannabeloved2]

They refuse to read or acknowledge Aquinas

billions must not read him and embrace fideism

 

[taai]

Ok?

I can think of a giant titan beast in my head with 50 dicks attached everywhere on his body

Does that mean he exists in our physical reality and is creator of the universe?

When you contain the meaning of God between your definition of God you are keeping yourself from what the true meaning of God might be as you are containing it's content. I think this is the main flaw in your reasoning and it has nothing to do with the truth in itself.

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

When you contain the meaning of God between your definition of God you are keeping yourself from what the true meaning of God might be as you are containing it's content. I think this is the main flaw in your reasoning and it has nothing to do with the truth in itself.

The meaning of the “true god” was explained in the Bible, an absurd amount of times

Like I said, if you’re not trying to argue the existence of the Christian god this argument is worthless

 

[theRetard]

yeah sure now whats ur rule of inference

comes from propositions

 

[iwannabeloved2]

comes from propositions

nvm convo ends here become fideist and i will take you to my underground discord iqcel society where we read and don't larp IQ

 

[theRetard]

So what are you even trying to argue

If you’re not even trying to argue the existence of the biblical god, this conversation is worthless. I’m agnostic, I can’t say some type of god “doesn’t exist” because I can’t know

What I refute is the Christian god

it's ok then refute christian god, he does exist too imo

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

it's ok then refute christian god, he does exist too imo

That’s what I’ve been refuting this whole time you absolute tard

Sorry for the insult, but like, is English your first language?

You have to bring up an actual point for me to refute it

 

[ikramy]

I’m mirin the rage baiting tbh

 

[taai]

The meaning of the “true god” was explained in the Bible, an absurd amount of times

Like I said, if you’re not trying to argue the existence of the Christian god this argument is worthless

What I mean is that yes, the idea of God is revealed to us historically but what we know about God now it is not necessarily the whole. Just as a country can change flags but the spirit of nation remains.

I think it's pointless to try to prove that is just the Christian interpretation that couldn't exist

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

I’m mirin the rage baiting tbh

Gotta be right

No way these people are this stupid? I’m being trolled huh

 

[ikramy]

I’m being trolled huh

Yah

 

[theRetard]

That’s what I’ve been refuting this whole time you absolute tard

so what's your point for him to non-exist?

Sorry for the insult, but like, is English your first language?

yes

You have to bring up an actual point for me to refute it

but i did

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

What I mean is that yes, the idea of God is revealed to us historically but what we know about God now it is not necessarily the whole. Just as a country can change flags but the spirit of nation remains.

I think it's pointless to try to prove that is just the Cristian interpretation that couldn't exist

Nope, the Christian Bible never said anything like that lmao. He is fully explained in the Bible, how else are you gonna get info on god lmao, next time Jesus comes back he’s gonna give us an update? His entire life was dedicated trying to tell us the morals and standpoint of god, if you listen to the Bible it would take like 80 hours to complete

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

so what's your point for him to non-exist?

yes

but i did

No you just derailed the entire argument and basically stated ur not even arguing for the Christian god, and said he didn’t even create the universe.

 

[theRetard]

Ok?

I can think of a giant titan beast in my head with 50 dicks attached everywhere on his body

Does that mean he exists in our physical reality and is creator of the universe?

where's the claim that it is necessary to be physical?

 

[taai]

Nope, the Christian Bible never said anything like that lmao. He is fully explained in the Bible, how else are you gonna get info on god lmao, next time Jesus comes back he’s gonna give us an update? His entire life was dedicated trying to tell us the morals and standpoint of god, if you listen to the Bible it would take like 80 hours to complete

What I mean is that I don't think the bible contains the true meaning of God, as any other religion, that is why I think trying to prove the Christian God in particular doesn't exist is pointless

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

What I mean is that I don't think the bible contains the true meaning of God, as any other religion, that is why I think trying to prove the Christian God in particular doesn't exist is pointless

Okay so our argument’s over, of course when I say god doesn’t exist I’m talking about the Christian god

 

[theRetard]

No you just derailed the entire argument and basically stated ur not even arguing for the Christian god, and said he didn’t even create the universe.

no, ive never claimed that he didn't create the universe, what i said is that i've never claimed that he created he universe, these are just different things.
ok i will proof now that christian god exists:
non-existence does not exist
and so for christian god non-existence is impossible

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

no, ive never claimed that he didn't create the universe, what i said is that i've never claimed that he created he universe, these are just different things.
ok i will proof now that christian god exists:
non-existence does not exist
and so for christian god non-existence is impossible

Hahahahaha bro

If you believe he did create the universe, what’s even the point of saying that you never claimed that.

Ok, yeah, everyone I’ve argued with on this topic is like 14 at max. I respect you trying to delve into philosophical topics but you need some brain development

 

[thepathsdontremembe]

prove me wrong

 

[theRetard]

If you believe he did create the universe, what’s even the point of saying that you never claimed that.

can you point it where i said that i believe in him creating the universe?

Ok, yeah, everyone I’ve argued with on this topic is like 14 at max. I respect you trying to delve into philosophical topics but you need some brain development

why?

 

[crazyguy]

prove me wrong

He's real and the evolution theory is fake

 

[theRetard]

the evolution theory is fake

why?

 

[crazyguy]

why?

because we didnt come from monkeys

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

can you point it where i said that i believe in him creating the universe?

why?

This is just obvious bud, if someone is trying to argue the existence of god it’s usually the concept of god that is traditionally accepted, as in he created the universe

If you’re just gonna back pedal, and change the traditional belief of god to suit your point (which isn’t even good) then the argument is pointless. You’re just manipulating all the attributes of god to fit whatever argument you’re making

What does him making the universe even have to do with the conversation at hand anyways? You saying he’s not the creator of the universe doesn’t prove anything either, it’s just a belief you have. It’s not a logical argument

 

[theRetard]

because we didnt come from monkeys

then from what?

 

[crazyguy]

then from what?

from nothing, weve always been humans

 

[why not me?]

i am the god from now on

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

from nothing, weve always been humans

We came from lighting

Literally lighting struck water and created an enzyme that became life over millions of years

 

[theRetard]

This is just obvious bud, if someone is trying to argue the existence of god it’s usually the concept of god that is traditionally accepted, as in he created the universe

If you’re just gonna back pedal, and change the traditional belief of god to suit your point (which isn’t even good) then the argument is pointless. You’re just manipulating all the attributes of god to fit whatever argument you’re making

What does him making the universe even have to do with the conversation at hand anyways? You saying he’s not the creator of the universe doesn’t prove anything either, it’s just a belief you have. It’s not a logical argument

where i said that he is not the creator of universe though? isn't it just ignoratio elenchi.
so ok, i can say that he is the creator of universe. debate it.

 

[bottleofwater]

prove me wrong

he doesnt

 

[theRetard]

from nothing, weve always been humans

we can't come from nothing, nothing doesn't even exist

 

[theRetard]

he doesnt

why?

 

[bottleofwater]

why?

Toehrwise hed prove himself to the world instead of making just assume he exists

 

[crazyguy]

We came from lighting

Literally lighting struck water and created an enzyme that became life over millions of years

elaborate

we can't come from nothing, nothing doesn't even exist

yes we can, theres a start to everything

 

[theRetard]

elaborate


yes we can, theres a start to everything

no there's no a start to everything, it's impossible

 

[crazyguy]

no there's no a start to everything, it's impossible

do you think the universe is infinite?

 

[theRetard]

do you think the universe is infinite?

of course it is

 

[ase]

prove me wrong

are you jew or not?

 

[theRetard]

are you jew or not?

no

 

[LTNUser]

If you need the fear of punishment to be good,are you really good?
Ask yourself

 

[theRetard]

If you need the fear of punishment to be good,are you really good?
Ask yourself

but i don't need the fear of punishment to be good.
and how does this relate to the topic at all?

 

[crazyguy]

of course it is

do you believe in mainstream science?

 

[theRetard]

do you believe in mainstream science?

yes

 

[crazyguy]

yes

mainstream scientists say that the universe has existed for 13.9 billion years

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

elaborate


yes we can, theres a start to everything

where i said that he is not the creator of universe though? isn't it just ignoratio elenchi.
so ok, i can say that he is the creator of universe. debate it.

You saying you never claimed that, is obviously implying you don’t believe it. Why would you never claimed something if you do believe it. I’m not gonna debate anything because you just keep saying stupid stuff

 

[theRetard]

mainstream scientists say that the universe has existed for 13.9 billion years

they either give the different definition to universe or just wrong

 

[theRetard]

You saying you never claimed that, is obviously implying you don’t believe it.

not claiming something=/=not believing

Why would you never claimed something if you do believe it.

even if i believe, then it doesn't mean that i must claim it

I’m not gonna debate anything because you just keep saying stupid stuff

why is this stupid? debate that he didn't create the uni