God is keeping you alive for a reason

[Troo_]

we can judge the morality of it with the religions morality itself if its wrong within gods own moral constraints then you obv know

Im not sure what you mean.

 

[catastropy]

Im not sure what you mean.

If the scenario i present is wrong within religion ethics… get it? Like for example a religion moght say causing unnecessary harm is bad but then the god of the religion causes unnecessary harm a person with no morality can show the ludicrosity of it so a persons moral view wouldnt matter

 

[Troo_]

If the scenario i present is wrong within religion ethics… get it? Like for example a religion moght say causing unnecessary harm is bad but then the god of the religion causes unnecessary harm a person with no morality can show the ludicrosity of it so a persons moral view wouldnt matter

? Not how that works. Everyone has morality and is a moral agent but people don’t want to recognize that it’s morality from the Holy Spirit. Any other idea outside of the Holy Spirit is being misinformed and from demons.

My point is, though, you can’t deem what is rightfully necessary or unrightfully necessary because you can’t ground your morality. You can’t say what is good or bad because you specifically cannot ground your morality

 

[catastropy]

? Not how that works. Everyone has morality and is a moral agent but people don’t want to recognize that it’s morality from the Holy Spirit. Any other idea outside of the Holy Spirit is being misinformed and from demons.

My point is, though, you can’t deem what is rightfully necessary or unrightfully necessary because you can’t ground your morality. You can’t say what is good or bad because you specifically cannot ground your morality

Not neccesarily and no morality doesnt neccesarily come from god but thats irrelevant even if i grant u the fact that what ur saying is right then my point still stands. If god says to not cause unnecessary harm and then he himself causes unnecessary harm and then suppose ur a follower of god so u can ground morality and when u see that god is contradicting himself hence proving its false

 

[Troo_]

Not neccesarily and no morality doesnt neccesarily come from god but thats irrelevant even if i grant u the fact that what ur saying is right then my point still stands. If god says to not cause unnecessary harm and then he himself causes unnecessary harm and then suppose ur a follower of god so u can ground morality and when u see that god is contradicting himself hence proving its false

You can’t just brush grounding morality aside we are literally arguing a moral problem. If where your morals have no substance your argument has no substance so I don’t have to listen to you and we cannot progress. So im just gonna dnr everything after that until you can ground morality.

 

[catastropy]

You can’t just brush grounding morality aside we are literally arguing a moral problem. If where your morals have no substance your argument has no substance so I don’t have to listen to you and we cannot progress. So im just gonna dnr everything after that until you can ground morality.

Elaborate on why having no morality means u cant point out contradictions jfl because contradictions are a logic critique not a moral one so this essentially a category error from ur side

 

[Troo_]

Elaborate on why having no morality means u cant point out contradictions jfl because contradictions are a logic critique not a moral one so this essentially a category error from ur side

This is what I’m telling and asking you to do:

Ground your morality. Where does it come from?

 

[catastropy]

This is what I’m telling and asking you to do:

Ground your morality. Where does it come from?

Why is it neccesary? Contradictions ≠ ethical dilemmas im not even saying its right or wrong btw just merely pointing out a contradiction i would actually explain this if it were truly neccesary jfl

 

[Troo_]

Why is it neccesary? Contradictions ≠ ethical dilemmas im not even saying its right or wrong btw just merely pointing out a contradiction i would actually explain this if it were truly neccesary jfl

I’m still confused on this contradiction thing too I never brought up if God does anything unnecessary and if sometimes he makes suffering unnecessary this is something you just brought up icl.

 

[catastropy]

I’m still confused on this contradiction thing too I never brought up if God does anything unnecessary and if sometimes he makes suffering unnecessary this is something you just brought up icl.

I dont really care tbh this is literally the least of my worries i guess ill phrase the argumentation one last time
God says to not cause unnecessary harm
God causes unnecessary harm with no greater good
God is all loving all just and all good
U should be able to see the contradiction urself
If u dont its whatever and we can agree to disagree

 

[Troo_]

I dont really care tbh this is literally the least of my worries i guess ill phrase the argumentation one last time
God says to not cause unnecessary harm
God causes unnecessary harm with no greater good
God is all loving all just and all good
U should be able to see the contradiction urself
If u dont its whatever and we can agree to disagree

Where does he say not to cause unnecessary harm

 

[catastropy]

Where does he say not to cause unnecessary harm

son

 

[Troo_]

son

??? Alright seems were both done here i dont want to nuke my rep ratio cheers mate

 

[XazaqazaX]

I’m still confused on this contradiction thing too I never brought up if God does anything unnecessary and if sometimes he makes suffering unnecessary this is something you just brought up icl.

I dont really care tbh this is literally the least of my worries i guess ill phrase the argumentation one last time
God says to not cause unnecessary harm
God causes unnecessary harm with no greater good
God is all loving all just and all good
U should be able to see the contradiction urself
If u dont its whatever and we can agree to disagree

God is all knowing and all powerful, has infinite wisdom and plain justice. A child killed in war is a result of action of humans, he was killed unjustly and God will give him justice on the day of the meeting. But if a child is killed in earthquake or a natural disaster, that is by God's divine destiny and infinite wisdom, he will not complain about that moment to God according to the hadith: A believer would be asked in Paradise about the sufferings he had in the previous life, he would say nothing even though he was suffering his whole life, he will be satisfied what God had given him.

 

[XazaqazaX]

i dont have to thank him u fucking moron, why should i thank him for not have down syndrome when there are others that have it, why am i lucky and they suffer, why do l look mtn when chadlites exist, its random genetics u cuck. the world is hell and were living in it, theres so much death and suffering happening everywhere and ur god is just watching it happen, nothing beautifal about that, and about the starting point thing, u have zero evidence it was ur god or any god in general, " i dont know how we got here so it most be a magical diety"

Yes God is watching everything. But he grants respite to the evildoers out of his infinite mercy, also God is patient and out of this reality and time that he created. A time will come when he will meet us finally to show us the result of our lives lived.

About the starting point, I just proved it before. Either the creature came out of nowhere and evolved itself, or there was a designer behind it. The idea that you came out of nowhere and nature evolved you is non sensical according to common sense. Your parents didn't create you, your mom never said that she made you by her hands, you developed as foetus by God's will and not our of nowhere.

Your life is so miserable that you just complain and as a result dismissed your belief in God. Keep in mind even the Gazan children even though almost killed always praise God, even though they are suffering more than you.

 

[tjv.er]

This world is nothing except delusion, God confirms it in Quran. So everything from beauty to money is limited. Also life is extremely short so suffering isn't permanent, a few years.

True, God is with us everytime but we will actually meet him one day one by one on the day of the time well-known. Quran confirms this as the 'day of the meeting'.



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The Gooty Saphire Tarantula, beautiful. I don't think it created itself or it came out of nowhere. There's a designer. No Design?

religions and god are literally js to make you a better slave

 

[XazaqazaX]

religions and god are literally js to make you a better slave

Yeah better slave of God

 

[NoExit]

i think im a funny creation tbh ngl

 

[tjv.er]

Yeah better slave of God

ig bro

 

[annenisikeyim]

Do something before you meet him

god is fake

 

[XazaqazaX]

god is fake

He is real bro, don't be decieved