Going MGTOW is actually insanely appealing

[forevergymcelling]

I can't think of a better way to have a more stress free life

If I went MGTOW, I'd have 0 cortisol

No more worrying about:
Not being GL enough
Not being high status enough
Being rich enough
Being exciting enough
Being stoic enough
Being gymcelled enough

ect ect

You could wake up, do whatever the fuck you want without having to live up to impossible standards, then slay whenever you feel like it

A single man is never fucking enough for women. They always want more.

No matter how hard you try or if you do everything right, they'll eventually get bored.

Even if you're a Maher tier slayer, after a certain amount of time, she'll be thinking of other slayers on that level. The other guy doesn't even need to be better than you, just different.

My brain has been fried from the amount of guys I've cucked online / irl. Women are fucking worthless. It's destroyed my trust completely.

Even if you get a gf who is 'loyal', she's still probably fantasizing about other slayers in her head, watching brutal porn on her phone or thinking about getting gang raped

It's all so tiresome

Makes me want to be single so bad and go cope in the mountains with my friends

Fuck this life and fuck female nature

Also I hate being low sex appeal, it's fucking brutal

 

[snowbunnypolice]

My htn gymcelled friend wants to just go mgtow and passport/hooker max then deal with girls bs. I talked him out of it but he feels there’s genuinely no hope these days.

You still have to deal with women’s bs even if your htn/chad you can’t escape it

 

[forevergymcelling]

My htn gymcelled friend wants to just go mgtow and passport/hooker max then deal with girls bs.

You still have to deal with women’s bs even if your htn/chad you can’t escape it

I always cage at posters here who think it's insanely hard to get a gf

KEEPING a gf is 10000x harder

And by keeping, I mean her respecting you, lusting after you, staying loyal, keeping her excited, showing no weakness, all for years

It is a fucking brutal task, especially when you live together and she sees you 24/7

And sometimes you can do everything right and she still loses interest and cucks you

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Only MGTOW with money makes sense. Otherwise it's a cope imo

 

[romanstock]

I'm a NEETing MGTOW.

 

[forevergymcelling]

@Amnesia
@cucklek

thoughts?

 

[maximum cope31]

And by keeping, I mean her respecting you, lusting after you, staying loyal, keeping her excited, showing no weakness ect

Chad problems.

I am stuck at getting a GF.

 

[Toth's thot]

Just cheat

 

[snowbunnypolice]

I always cage at posters here who think it's insanely hard to get a gf

KEEPING a gf is 10000x harder

And by keeping, I mean her respecting you, lusting after you, staying loyal, keeping her excited, showing no weakness ect

It is a fucking brutal task, especially when you live together and she sees you 24/7

And sometimes you can do everything right and she still loses interest and cucks you

Lmao I had this exact conversation with him. Exactly this being able to keep a woman successfully is the true test.

Getting laid is easy keeping a woman is the hard part. seeing guys who have a successful long term relationship makes me green with envy sometimes.

So many different things have to align properly and follow a proper timeline it’s borderline impossible it feels sometimes and one slip up you will never be able to recover in her eyes most likely.

That’s the thing to. If your Mr perfect also she might end up finding you boring and leaving because your to perfect and stable in her eyes and she wants chaos and stimulation.

If everything goes to shit passport it is.

@thereallegend

 

[Daddy's Home]

@Amnesia
@cucklek

thoughts?

 

[thereallegend]

Not being GL enough
Not being high status enough
Being rich enough
Being exciting enough
Being stoic enough
Being gymcelled enough

You still need to worry about these things in order to have an income (either job or online) and to retire one day.

 

[STAMPEDE]

Just jfl at revolving your life around women, a never ending pathetic cycle

 

[pprimus43]

My htn gymcelled friend wants to just go mgtow and passport/hooker max then deal with girls bs. I talked him out of it but he feels there’s genuinely no hope these days.

You still have to deal with women’s bs even if your htn/chad you can’t escape it

Escortmaxxing is a temptation I am struggling with

 

[forevergymcelling]

Just jfl at revolving your life around women, a never ending pathetic cycle

Exactly, MGTOW is the way

 

[snowbunnypolice]

Like rehab room said all roads lead to hammer hand (mgtow)

 

[Amnesia]

@Amnesia
@cucklek

thoughts?

i recently ended my LTR of almost 2 years

It hurt the first week now I can't imagine EVER getting back into one

wow it feels so fucking good to not have any obligations. No dumb date nights where I have to plan or whatever

I wake up and can do ANYTHING, i can devote a whole two weeks to just gymcelling and getting back into shape or hop onto tinder and fuck a few 19 year olds or go out and pull some slag from a bar

Single life forever, and I'll just escortcel when I get too old to be able to pull. It is still MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE than a GF

 

[forevergymcelling]

You still need to worry about these things in order to have an income (either job or online) and to retire one day.

You only need to be skilled at one job though, which is easy

No employer is gonna fire you for not being exciting enough or tall enough just lol

 

[forevergymcelling]

i recently ended my LTR of almost 2 years

It hurt the first week now I can't imagine EVER getting back into one

wow it feels so fucking good to not have any obligations. No dumb date nights where I have to plan or whatever

I wake up and can do ANYTHING, i can devote a whole two weeks to just gymcelling and getting back into shape or hop onto tinder and fuck a few 19 year olds or go out and pull some slag from a bar

Single life forever, and I'll just escortcel when I get too old to be able to pull. It is still MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE than a GF

Mirin tbh

I always said if I break up with my gf, I'll never LTR again for as long as I live

It's simply not worth it

 

[sub6manletnozygos]

I can't think of a better way to have a more stress free life

If I went MGTOW, I'd have 0 cortisol

No more worrying about:
Not being GL enough
Not being high status enough
Being rich enough
Being exciting enough
Being stoic enough
Being gymcelled enough

ect ect

You could wake up, do whatever the fuck you want without having to live up to impossible standards, then slay whenever you feel like it

A single man is never fucking enough for women. They always want more.

No matter how hard you try or if you do everything right, they'll eventually get bored.

Even if you're a Maher tier slayer, after a certain amount of time, she'll be thinking of other slayers on that level. The other guy doesn't even need to be better than you, just different.

My brain has been fried from the amount of guys I've cucked online / irl. Women are fucking worthless. It's destroyed my trust completely.

Even if you get a gf who is 'loyal', she's still probably fantasizing about other slayers in her head, watching brutal porn on her phone or thinking about getting gang raped

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It's all so tiresome

Makes me want to be single so bad and go cope in the mountains with my friends

Fuck this life and fuck female nature

Also I hate being low sex appeal, it's fucking brutal

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dn rd that milquetoast ranting from a forum Chad.
I am 27 and a virgin. I missed out on all formative social development.

 

[thereallegend]

No employer is gonna fire you for not being exciting enough or tall enough just lol

You know about office, workplace politics. That matters more than the actual job. So yes it matters.

 

[forevergymcelling]

You know about office, workplace politics. That matters more than the actual job. So yes it matters.

I work in a field where performance is all that matters, nobody gives a fuck if you're likable or not

Also I'm pretty much fully remote too so I don't even have to speak to anyone anymore except for the occasional Teams call

 

[STAMPEDE]

Exactly, MGTOW is the way

Of course MGTOW is the way, Women’s pussy holds no value other than for reproduction purposes, a used up pussy is not valuable and not worth pursuing or wasting your time on. A woman’s pussy should be used by reproduction purposes and not lose value with each body count, Women have just one purpose in this world and that is to make babies, MGTOW wouldn’t even be a thing if this natural cycle of life was followed.

 

[Brus Wane]

Mgtow is the way until you keep talking, thinking, watching mgtow content every day


Youre not going your own way atp, youre coping on your own

 

[snowbunnypolice]

Escortmaxxing is a temptation I am struggling with

You pay either way. All men pay eventually.

If you can’t get it regularly through hookups relationships nothing wrong with getting a escort.

 

[forevergymcelling]

Mgtow is the way until you keep talking, thinking, watching mgtow content every day


Youre not going your own way atp, youre coping on your own

Never watched mgtow content in my life

But the premise is legit

 

[thereallegend]

I work in a field where performance is all that matters, nobody gives a fuck if you're likable or not

I miss being in a field like that, not having to put up with the petty bullshit I do now.

 

[Brus Wane]

Mgtow (in practice) is the way until you keep talking, thinking, watching mgtow content every day


Youre not going your own way atp, youre coping on your own

 

[Kroker]

That Italian player's wife that cucked him for Mauro Icardi, Kaka's wife cucked him also (muh he's just too perfect) both men didn't lack looks, money or status.

I thought antinatalism is the way to break free from the social norm & unwanted responsibility... Seems like I have to give up on the idea of marriage also

 

[forevergymcelling]

That Italian player's wife that cucked him for Mauro Icardi, Kaka's wife cucked him also (muh he's just too perfect) both men didn't lack looks, money or status.

I thought antinatalism is the way to break free from the social norm & unwanted responsibility... Seems like I have to give up on the idea of marriage also

It's so brutal, humanity is corrupted beyond belief

It's mog or be mogged

You're either the bull or the cuck. I'd rather be single, live alone and be an object of desire than some shcmuck doing everything right while his gf fantasizes and fucks other men

It's lonely, yes, but that's the price you pay. Being a cuck is a fate that is far worse

 

[SA7]

The NT pill proves that women are pointless

 

[Bruce Wayne78]

Life is good
I went MGTOW when i was 16 now I am 19

 

[Narroworbits]

Having your wife mog is ideal you fool

 

[Whatever]

MGTOW is poverty mindset, like just about everything on this corner of the internet. Yes the wrong women will cheat, take your money, etc. that's water. But the right woman will make your life better in ways you couldn't have even thought of on your own, there's a limit on how good you can make your life by yourself before someone else steps in and opens up new possibilities. Either way past a certain point in anyone's life, and I actually got there when I was 28, living alone is difficult or even unsafe. You could have sudden medical problems (like I did) or some kind of accident and trust me, you're going to need someone there for you, if you don't have a wife/girlfriend then you better have family that you can go back to.

 

[Genghis_Khan]

Depends what you mean by mgtow

 

[autistic_tendencies]

Just be a elusive chad and lead girls on theory make them cry and and beg for you theory
So close yet so far

 

[Genghis_Khan]

MGTOW is poverty mindset, like just about everything on this corner of the internet. Yes the wrong women will cheat, take your money, etc. that's water. But the right woman will make your life better in ways you couldn't have even thought of on your own, there's a limit on how good you can make your life by yourself before someone else steps in and opens up new possibilities. Either way past a certain point in anyone's life, and I actually got there when I was 28, living alone is difficult or even unsafe. You could have sudden medical problems (like I did) or some kind of accident and trust me, you're going to need someone there for you, if you don't have a wife/girlfriend then you better have family that you can go back to.

This forum is mostly 14 yr olds with zero understanding of the future.
It’s fine to be single then or even late teens early 20s but it will come back to bite you in the ass as you get old.
thank fuck I have multiple siblings so my parents wont be relying on me for grandchildren.

No but seriously, imagine being almost 40, no wife no kids and not even any irl friends because you posted on dalit forums then you see people the same age with teenage children, then you think back to if going le mgtow was worth it (clearly not).

 

[Whatever]

This forum is mostly 14 yr olds with zero understanding of the future.
It’s fine to be single then or even late teens early 20s but it will come back to bite you in the ass as you get old.
thank fuck I have multiple siblings so my parents wont be relying on me for grandchildren.

No but seriously, imagine being almost 40, no wife no kids and not even any irl friends because you posted on dalit forums then you see people the same age with teenage children, then you think back to if going le mgtow was worth it (clearly not).

This forum is a lot of 14 year olds but I think MGTOW is mostly guys in their 30s who somehow ended up in the garbage can, and then the 14 year olds listen to the garbage they spew before they have any of their own experience in life or know anything firsthand, if you're on this corner of the internet when you're that young then it's over before it ever began but apparently that's just about every zoomer guy nowadays so it's over for a shitload of guys.

 

[Daddy's Home]

Things are worse than ever, and will only get worse from this point

The modern world's convenience and access to information has totally destroyed the dynamics of relationships, and what to expect from them

You always have to be afraid that someone with better genetic, material and human resources than you can always contact her without you knowing on the internet, or that she will do that with someone, when she's sitting on the phone and you think she's just scrolling TikTok

The first second that you're not jestermaxxing around her, to entertain her, give her attention, touching her, tell jokes, ironies, play some music, dance with her, play with her, hugs, stories, talking about plans for today and week, etc. she'll get bored, at which point she'll get on the phone, and it can all go to hell from there..

Not to mention that you constantly have to be in top tier form physically and hygienically around her
And you never know when or if it's enough..

You always have to think of new things, new ways to surprise and entertain her, new places to visit, new things to do, etc. especially when when she's sitting on social media and she sees so many new places, food, new things to do, and she tells you how awesome they are, and that she wants to, and you're in your mind like ''why can't we just chill for the moment, wtf?''

If you don't play her game, eventually you'll hear things like ''I feel like this relationship is going nowhere / we've both changed, and I think we want different things out of life'' etc.

In the past things were very simple and clear..

Do you want my attention? Sorry, my attention is limited, why? I have to allocate all my energy to work around the house, garden, animals, helping neighbors around the village etc. so we have something to fucking eat tomorrow

The only attention you'll get is when we eat at lunch and in the evening, and when I fuck you at night, and there's nothing you can do about it, you have no choice

Are you bored? Just read those 5 books in the library that you've already read 15 times, or let's have some more babys to entertain you so you have something to do when the weather's bad outside, or just stay inside and rest and stare at the walls listening to the birds outside if you have nothing else to do, since you're done cleaning up and makeing food..

At that time every guy had a wife, and every wife had a husband. If it got out that somebody was cheating, the whole village found out, and you lost all the networking they offered you, necessary to survive..

She never had any demands from you, she didn't want to go to another village/city, she didn't want to go to restaurants, to do I don't know what activities. The fact that you were with her, shared the same house, slept in the same bed at night, and worked to provide food for her and the children was more than enough..

I could write books on these topics, but it's just over..

 

[forevergymcelling]

Things are worse than ever, and will only get worse from this point

The modern world's convenience and access to information has totally destroyed the dynamics of relationships, and what to expect from them

You always have to be afraid that someone with better genetic, material and human resources than you can always contact her without you knowing on the internet, or that she will do that with someone, when she's sitting on the phone and you think she's just scrolling TikTok

The first second that you're not jestermaxxing around her, to entertain her, give her attention, touching her, tell jokes, ironies, play some music, dance with her, play with her, hugs, stories, talking about plans for today and week, etc. she'll get bored, at which point she'll get on the phone, and it can all go to hell from there..

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Not to mention that you constantly have to be in top tier form physically and hygienically around her
And you never know when or if it's enough..

You always have to think of new things, new ways to surprise and entertain her, new places to visit, new things to do, etc. especially when when she's sitting on social media and she sees so many new places, food, new things to do, and she tells you how awesome they are, and that she wants to, and you're in your mind like ''why can't we just chill for the moment, wtf?''

If you don't play her game, eventually you'll hear things like ''I feel like this relationship is going nowhere / we've both changed, and I think we want different things out of life'' etc.

In the past things were very simple and clear..

Do you want my attention? Sorry, my attention is limited, why? I have to allocate all my energy to work around the house, garden, animals, helping neighbors around the village etc. so we have something to fucking eat tomorrow

The only attention you'll get is when we eat at lunch and in the evening, and when I fuck you at night, and there's nothing you can do about it, you have no choice

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Are you bored? Just read those 5 books in the library that you've already read 15 times, or let's have some more babys to entertain you so you have something to do when the weather's bad outside, or just stay inside and rest and stare at the walls listening to the birds outside if you have nothing else to do, since you're done cleaning up and makeing food..

At that time every guy had a wife, and every wife had a husband. If it got out that somebody was cheating, the whole village found out, and you lost all the networking they offered you, necessary to survive..

She never had any demands from you, she didn't want to go to another village/city, she didn't want to go to restaurants, to do I don't know what activities. The fact that you were with her, shared the same house, slept in the same bed at night, and worked to provide food for her and the children was more than enough..

I could write books on these topics, but it's just over..

This is 100% spot on

I think we want different things out of life

My own gf has told me this several times when I tell her that I want to make money fast while I'm still in my twenties. Meanwhile she's happy earning her salary, saving it up then going to spend weeks in other countries hiking and fucking around experiences different cultures just to come back and do it all again, it's retarded. I literally couldn't give a fuck about that shit. I told her if we managed to make money we can do all of that shit after without having any pressure of coming back and having to wagecuck after

Worst thing is we've already done 99% more shit and visited more places than literally any other couple we know but it's still not enough. She can't just sit the fuck down and try to get rich so we can have freedom forever instead of a temporary solution

 

[Tallooksmaxxer]

 

[Daddy's Home]

going to spend weeks in other countries hiking and fucking around experiences different cultures just to come back and do it all again

The 2 of you talked about children, the idea of raising children, about responsibility, about this idea of home, family, extended family, having them come to you with children, you going to them with children, etc. and in general this lifestyle? How does she feel about it? Does she want that in the medium to long term?

I also had a bit of dialog with DeepSeek and Chatgpt on this topic, about why foids want this days to go to so many places and do so much useless shit, instead of just going on summer and winter vacations like normal people, and otherwise taking care of kids, meeting extended family members, sharing information and experiences, etc. that will help them

Their answers were giga suifuel, especially if you're an average guy who just works, chill and wants to have a salary above the average for his city, to have a house and a car of his own, even with debts, and 2-3 kids. Like you can just put a gun in your mouth at this point, it's not even worth trying..

Why can't every foid be just like this in 2025..

 

[V_289]

t

I can't think of a better way to have a more stress free life

If I went MGTOW, I'd have 0 cortisol

No more worrying about:
Not being GL enough
Not being high status enough
Being rich enough
Being exciting enough
Being stoic enough
Being gymcelled enough

ect ect

You could wake up, do whatever the fuck you want without having to live up to impossible standards, then slay whenever you feel like it

A single man is never fucking enough for women. They always want more.

No matter how hard you try or if you do everything right, they'll eventually get bored.

Even if you're a Maher tier slayer, after a certain amount of time, she'll be thinking of other slayers on that level. The other guy doesn't even need to be better than you, just different.

My brain has been fried from the amount of guys I've cucked online / irl. Women are fucking worthless. It's destroyed my trust completely.

Even if you get a gf who is 'loyal', she's still probably fantasizing about other slayers in her head, watching brutal porn on her phone or thinking about getting gang raped

View attachment 3506782


It's all so tiresome

Makes me want to be single so bad and go cope in the mountains with my friends

Fuck this life and fuck female nature

Also I hate being low sex appeal, it's fucking brutal

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that shit is cope. I did that for 2 years only focusing on making on money, gymmaxxing and reading. Escortmaxxed once a month from the money I made, felt good for a while. Made a significant amount of progress but still felt incomplete and jealous of my peers with gf's.

 

[V_289]

als

I can't think of a better way to have a more stress free life

If I went MGTOW, I'd have 0 cortisol

No more worrying about:
Not being GL enough
Not being high status enough
Being rich enough
Being exciting enough
Being stoic enough
Being gymcelled enough

ect ect

You could wake up, do whatever the fuck you want without having to live up to impossible standards, then slay whenever you feel like it

A single man is never fucking enough for women. They always want more.

No matter how hard you try or if you do everything right, they'll eventually get bored.

Even if you're a Maher tier slayer, after a certain amount of time, she'll be thinking of other slayers on that level. The other guy doesn't even need to be better than you, just different.

My brain has been fried from the amount of guys I've cucked online / irl. Women are fucking worthless. It's destroyed my trust completely.

Even if you get a gf who is 'loyal', she's still probably fantasizing about other slayers in her head, watching brutal porn on her phone or thinking about getting gang raped

View attachment 3506782


It's all so tiresome

Makes me want to be single so bad and go cope in the mountains with my friends

Fuck this life and fuck female nature

Also I hate being low sex appeal, it's fucking brutal

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also you are too hard on yourself, I am sure you are htn

 

[Yliaster]

 

[infini]

It’s ex-relationship self-realisation ptsd.

 

[Part-Time Chad]

You could wake up, do whatever the fuck you want without having to live up to impossible standards, then slay whenever you feel like it

The thing is that you can't "slay whenever you feel like it" as a MGTOW, because, if you're going MGTOW, chances are you're either an incel or former betabuxx LTN-MTN.

 

[blatonslatt]

This is 100% spot on



My own gf has told me this several times when I tell her that I want to make money fast while I'm still in my twenties. Meanwhile she's happy earning her salary, saving it up then going to spend weeks in other countries hiking and fucking around experiences different cultures just to come back and do it all again, it's retarded. I literally couldn't give a fuck about that shit. I told her if we managed to make money we can do all of that shit after without having any pressure of coming back and having to wagecuck after

Worst thing is we've already done 99% more shit and visited more places than literally any other couple we know but it's still not enough. She can't just sit the fuck down and try to get rich so we can have freedom forever instead of a temporary solution

then be a man and force her

 

[Sprinkles]

This forum is mostly 14 yr olds with zero understanding of the future.
It’s fine to be single then or even late teens early 20s but it will come back to bite you in the ass as you get old.
thank fuck I have multiple siblings so my parents wont be relying on me for grandchildren.

No but seriously, imagine being almost 40, no wife no kids and not even any irl friends because you posted on dalit forums then you see people the same age with teenage children, then you think back to if going le mgtow was worth it (clearly not).

what a cuck mindset

imagine being such a pussy needing that level of external validation

i couldn't give a rats ass about family or irl friends

do you people not have hobbies?

 

[Enfant terrible]

That Italian player's wife that cucked him for Mauro Icardi, Kaka's wife cucked him also (muh he's just too perfect) both men didn't lack looks, money or status.

I thought antinatalism is the way to break free from the social norm & unwanted responsibility... Seems like I have to give up on the idea of marriage also

Having kids is participating in the civilisation game as is every action that doesn't refrain from participating in any matters of organized living in a group.
Only escape is death.

 

[Latinolooksmaxxer]

there is only one appealing thing = being chad


be chad = appealing

not chad = unnappealing








subhuman going mgtow has 0 appeal nigga