Going to get my bloodwork

[punchmademaxxer]

15 years old, what hormone indicators should tell me if i should take aromasin now or later?

 

[syuri]

full hormone panel (test, e2, lh, fsh, sbhg, prolactin)

 

[punchmademaxxer]

full hormone panel (test, e2, lh, fsh, sbhg, prolactin)

yes but what e2/other hormones levels would indicate for me to start aromasin right now? like x pg/ml or what?

 

[aids]

yes but what e2/other hormones levels would indicate for me to start aromasin right now? like x pg/ml or what?

None, you retard.
You're not taking Aromasin because it's medically necessary, you're probably taking it to delay epiphyseal plate closure.
You will be at normal levels within reference range.
Take non-steroidal AI instead.

 

[punchmademaxxer]

None, you retard.
You're not taking Aromasin because it's medically necessary, you're probably taking it to delay epiphyseal plate closure.
You will be at normal levels within reference range.
Take non-steroidal AI instead.

why should I take a non-steroidal one and not aromasin. I heard aromasin is the best because its reversible in the long term (the effect on estrogen)

 

[aids]

why should I take a non-steroidal one and not aromasin. I heard aromasin is the best because its reversible in the long term (the effect on estrogen)

Aromasin, like any steroidal AI, is not reversible in terms of its impact on the aromatase enzyme it binds to.
It makes a covalent bond meaning it permanently shuts down the enzyme it binds to, your body needs to produce more aromatase for testosterone-to-estrogen conversion to return to baseline.

 

[punchmademaxxer]

Aromasin, like any steroidal AI, is not reversible in terms of its impact on the aromatase enzyme it binds to.
It makes a covalent bond meaning it permanently shuts down the enzyme it binds to, your body needs to produce more aromatase for testosterone-to-estrogen conversion to return to baseline.

So then which ai is the best to take at 15 years old so that i dont get lifelong damage from it?

 

[aids]

So then which ai is the best to take at 15 years old so that i dont get lifelong damage from it?

Both can cause "lifelong damage" if you lower your E2 too much, for too long.
Just take a non-steroidal AI and very slowly taper the dosage from a very low dose.
Anastrazole has a half life of 40-50h (from a Google search) so that means it takes approximately 200-250 hours to reach saturation in your body (where it is at its highest concentration), so take a particular dose for 10 days, see how you feel at that concentration of the AI in your body for a week longer, maybe even get bloodwork, then taper up very minimally if your E2 is still relatively high.
Do not bottom your E2, just bring it to the lower-end of reference range and what is considered clinically normal, still.
If you're doing this for delaying epiphyseal plate closure (you are), then use a growth factor, ideally HGH, as well.

 

[punchmademaxxer]

Both can cause "lifelong damage" if you lower your E2 too much, for too long.
Just take a non-steroidal AI and very slowly taper the dosage from a very low dose.
Anastrazole has a half life of 40-50h (from a Google search) so that means it takes approximately 200-250 hours to reach saturation in your body (where it is at its highest concentration), so take a particular dose for 10 days, see how you feel at that concentration of the AI in your body for a week longer, maybe even get bloodwork, then taper up very minimally if your E2 is still relatively high.
Do not bottom your E2, just bring it to the lower-end of reference range and what is considered clinically normal, still.
If you're doing this for delaying epiphyseal plate closure (you are), then use a growth factor, ideally HGH, as well.

ok tysm, btw wouldnt something like cjc 1295 or a peptide be better than pinning plain hgh? also im tanner stage 3 closing in on 4, so i dont think i need an ai for now but like next year ill 100% be on an ai

 

[aids]

ok tysm, btw wouldnt something like cjc 1295 or a peptide be better than pinning plain hgh? also im tanner stage 3 closing in on 4, so i dont think i need an ai for now but like next year ill 100% be on an ai

Why not run AI now?
And regarding whether other growth factors would be more effective than HGH, I'm not sure, see if any of these compounds have been used by the experimental group for any studies on individuals with idiopathic short stature.
If the experimental group for a particular compound experienced relatively more growth than the experimental group for HGH, then you could assume that it is more effective, but I don't think there has been a study to suggest this, which is why HGH is recommended as the gold standard.

 

[punchmademaxxer]

Why not run AI now?
And regarding whether other growth factors would be more effective than HGH, I'm not sure, see if any of these compounds have been used by the experimental group for any studies on individuals with idiopathic short stature.
If the experimental group for a particular compound experienced relatively more growth than the experimental group for HGH, then you could assume that it is more effective, but I don't think there has been a study to suggest this, which is why HGH is recommended as the gold standard.

Considering that I can run ai for too long, I'm looking to make the most out of it, and by that I mean use it as late as I can because after I hop off it my growth plates are probably going to close. I also suggested peptides because to my knowledge they are better than hgh for causing less long-term damage.

 

[User28823]

if ur estradiol is > 20 pg/mL your growth plates are actively fusing

 

[aids]

Considering that I can run ai for too long, I'm looking to make the most out of it, and by that I mean use it as late as I can because after I hop off it my growth plates are probably going to close. I also suggested peptides because to my knowledge they are better than hgh for causing less long-term damage.

Do your own cost-benefit analysis for growth factors.
To say a compound is the best because it is absent of particular side effects associated with HGH use, is a subjective measure.
What is objectively the best is what makes you grow the most.
HGH in general is the golden standard, but if there's something better, specific to you, then use it.

 

[punchmademaxxer]

Do your own cost-benefit analysis for growth factors.
To say a compound is the best because it is absent of particular side effects associated with HGH use, is a subjective measure.
What is objectively the best is what makes you grow the most.
HGH in general is the golden standard, but if there's something better, specific to you, then use it.

ok tysm