Good bench press targets

[Saint Casanova]

For someone of average weight at 6ft for example:
225 one rep max is okay
315lb is great
315 for 6 reps is amazing and ideal.
Who agrees ?

 

[Deleted member 23391]

anything under 315 = subhuman

 

[mog_me]

if you bench 225 you are already an outlier. It’s not just “ok”

 

[Saint Casanova]

anything under 315 = subhuman

What’s your bench ?

 

[Saint Casanova]

if you bench 225 you are already an outlier. It’s not just “ok”

Not really, any average guy can hit that within a year, max 2 of training with decent programming and diet

 

[Deleted member 23391]

What’s your bench ?

subhuman

 

[Saint Casanova]

subhuman

120?

 

[Deleted member 23391]

120?

kilos? probably for a 1 rep max yeah but I don't max out

 

[Saint Casanova]

kilos? probably for a 1 rep max yeah but I don't max out

140 kg for a few reps is possible naturally ?

 

[Deleted member 30679]

Repping 225 is good

 

[mog_me]

Not really, any average guy can hit that within a year, max 2 of training with decent programming and diet

0.4 percent of people can bench 225

 

[Saint Casanova]

0.4 percent of people can bench 225

What percentage of those have a good diet, and take training seriously?

 

[Saint Casanova]

Repping 225 is good

225 for 10-12 brings you close to 315 territory anyways

 

[Deleted member 30679]

anything under 315 = subhuman

jfl at this

 

[Jason Voorhees]

225 for reps is good imo. Don't listen to users who tell you they see 16 year olds benching 315 for reps. I have only seen big guys do more than 2+ plates. I myself can do 225 for reps. A bit more if I max out and I'm stronger than most people in my gym

 

[Deleted member 30679]

225 for 10-12 brings you close to 315 territory anyways

All you need is enough muscle to look good lean
I don't get why u need to bench 315 if your goal is to look good not to become the next Larry wheels

Benching 225 for at least like 6 is very good

 

[Rawprimalooks]

For someone of average weight at 6ft for example:
225 one rep max is okay
315lb is great
315 for 6 reps is amazing and ideal.
Who agrees ?

Whats the point ?

 

[Saint Casanova]

All you need is enough muscle to look good lean
I don't get why u need to bench 315 if your goal is to look good not to become the next Larry wheels

Benching 225 for at least like 6 is very good

I think a solid well developed chest is around 315lb level. That’s what most guys say at least.

 

[Deleted member 23391]

140 kg for a few reps is possible naturally ?

Depends on your genetics, some guys can bench 500 naturally. But that's the genetic elite. Some will be stuck at 225 for years. For me I think 315 would be possible naturally because of my frame, but I don't intend to be natural.

 

[Deleted member 30679]

I think a solid well developed chest is around 315lb level. That’s what most guys say at least.

Wtf hell no
It depends on genetics ig but u absolutely don't need to bench 315 for a solid chest jfl

 

[Saint Casanova]

225 for reps is good imo. Don't listen to users who tell you they see 16 year olds benching 315 for reps. I have only seen big guys do more than 2+ plates. I myself can do 225 for reps. A bit more if I max out and I'm stronger than most people in my gym

My friend did 315lb for 3 at 16 but he was on sarms so there’s that

 

[Jason Voorhees]

All you need is enough muscle to look good lean
I don't get why u need to bench 315 if your goal is to look good not to become the next Larry wheels

Benching 225 for at least like 6 is very good

Strength is not correlated with muscle mass as much as you think. I've seen guys who look like twigs bench 3 plates. If you go to a construction sites too you'll notice that it's always a weird looking guy with broad shoulders and stocky frame who is the strongest

 

[Deleted member 23391]

My friend did 315lb for 3 at 16 but he was on sarms so there’s that

if he did that on sarms he probably could have achieved it natty unless he was one of those extremely weak natties that are hyper responders

 

[Saint Casanova]

Depends on your genetics, some guys can bench 500 naturally. But that's the genetic elite. Some will be stuck at 225 for years. For me I think 315 would be possible naturally because of my frame, but I don't intend to be natural.

Don’t even think 500lb is natural tbh. Maybe if it was it would be some Manlet with 8 inch wrists, short arm span and a barrel rib cage.

People like Lexx Little and David laid should not be pulling anywhere close to 405, but they do so it shows that they’re on PEDs

 

[Saint Casanova]

if he did that on sarms he probably could have achieved it natty unless he was one of those extremely weak natties that are hyper responders

No he responded very well, he was quite skinny fat throughout his life. But he didn’t just take sarms, he was on a test base as he was taking S-23 and Rad-140

 

[Saint Casanova]

Strength is not correlated with muscle mass as much as you think. I've seen guys who look like twigs bench 3 plates. If you go to a construction sites too you'll notice that it's always a weird looking guy with broad shoulders and stocky frame who is the strongest

Disagree, for natties it’s very heavily correlated. Every strong natty I know has a good amount of muscle mass. Meanwhile some roidcels taking Tren like Zyzz look like they could bench over 140kg, yet he was struggling to hit 120

 

[Deleted member 30679]

Strength is not correlated with muscle mass as much as you think. I've seen guys who look like twigs bench 3 plates. If you go to a construction sites too you'll notice that it's always a weird looking guy with broad shoulders and stocky frame who is the strongest

Sure but
Progressive overload = more muscle mass?
That's how muscle building works
Unless you are training for strength
You have to be strong in order to be aesthetic

 

[Deleted member 23391]

Don’t even think 500lb is natural tbh. Maybe if it was it would be some Manlet with 8 inch wrists, short arm span and a barrel rib cage.

People like Lexx Little and David laid should not be pulling anywhere close to 405, but they do so it shows that they’re on PEDs

Doug Hepburn and Reg Park both benched over 500 in the early 50s before steroids were even used (only methyltestosterone was really around back then and it sucks and is extremely liver toxic). It is possible for the extremely genetically elite. But that's such a small percentage.

 

[traveler]

average brah

1 plate as a beginner 135
1 plate + 25 185
2 plates 225
2 plate + 25 = 275
3 plates 315

 

[traveler]

Not really, any average guy can hit that within a year, max 2 of training with decent programming and diet

they aint a average guy once they start training regularly

average guy off the couch 95% of males
5% of males gym maxx

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Disagree, for natties it’s very heavily correlated. Every strong natty I know has a good amount of muscle mass. Meanwhile some roidcels taking Tren like Zyzz look like they could bench over 140kg, yet he was struggling to hit 120

Example

>deadlifts 5pl8+
>looks like he has never stepped foot in a gym before

 

[Deleted member 30679]

Example

>deadlifts 5pl8+
>looks like he has never stepped foot in a gym before

>Starting strength

 

[Saint Casanova]

Doug Hepburn and Reg Park both benched over 500 in the early 50s before steroids were even used (only methyltestosterone was really around back then and it sucks and is extremely liver toxic). It is possible for the extremely genetically elite. But that's such a small percentage.

Dbol and test was available back then, but maybe Doug did it naturally since he was like 300lb so it was a 1.67 times body weight bench which isn’t impossible. Reg was just ridiculous: either the best genetics in the world or extraordinary genetics with basic test.

I’d bet only a dozen people or so could hit 500lb naturally whilst being LEAN

 

[Saint Casanova]

Example

>deadlifts 5pl8+
>looks like he has never stepped foot in a gym before

Deadlifts are just leverages for the most part. Bench is way more correlated with muscle

 

[Chinacurry]

For someone of average weight at 6ft for example:
225 one rep max is okay
315lb is great
315 for 6 reps is amazing and ideal.
Who agrees ?

U gotta put it into context.
Most gyms that aren't in some way professional (eg a powerlifter gym or Louisiana Tigers gym) and just looking at natty, prob 5% of guys who regularly train can 1rm 225lbs.

Cherry pick a bit and it might become 10% (exclude older people, exclude some ethnics, go to the right neighborhood, etc).

And thats regular gym goers, even if you say 225lb is top 10%, it will become 1% of population.

So more than just ok

 

[Saint Casanova]

Dbol and test was available back then, but maybe Doug did it naturally since he was like 300lb so it was a 1.67 times body weight bench which isn’t impossible. Reg was just ridiculous: either the best genetics in the world or extraordinary genetics with basic test.

I’d bet only a dozen people or so could hit 500lb naturally whilst being LEAN

It’s interesting reading about the possibility of test and Dbol use in the late 40s/50s. What do you think ?

All I notice is that there is a huge change in physiques from the 30s to the 50s

 

[Deleted member 23391]

It’s interesting reading about the possibility of test and Dbol use in the late 40s/50s. What do you think ?

All I notice is that there is a huge change in physiques from the 30s to the 50s

testosterone propionate, maybe very limited use in the late 40s and early 50s, there is no proof of anything - it's all speculation

dbol wasn't invented by Ciba pharmaceuticals until 1955

 

[User28823]

if you bench 225 you are already an outlier. It’s not just “ok”

i benched 225 in high school weighing 130 pounds

if u struggle with 225 above 150lb bw you should just quit gym tbh

above 180lbs u should easily hit 315

 

[mog_me]

i benched 225 in high school weighing 130 pounds

if u struggle with 225 above 150lb bw you should just quit gym tbh

above 180lbs u should easily hit 315

Brutal I’m 15 130 and I’m no where near 225

 

[User28823]

Brutal I’m 15 130 and I’m no where near 225

then again i was following a pure bench program, this one

UFpwrLifter Bench Press Program

If you have reached this web page, you have undoubtedly heard of a man going by the moniker of ‘UFpwrLifter’. His real name is Long Nguyen and he is a powerlifter (or more specifically, a bench pre…

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but if i was just doing bench once a week i doubt i would have progressed as good

 

[Latinolooksmaxxer]

in 2 months as a natty you should be able to bench 3x your bw or its over

 

[mog_me]

then again i was following a pure bench program, this one

UFpwrLifter Bench Press Program

If you have reached this web page, you have undoubtedly heard of a man going by the moniker of ‘UFpwrLifter’. His real name is Long Nguyen and he is a powerlifter (or more specifically, a bench pre…

ornatestrength.fitness.blog

but if i was just doing bench once a week i doubt i would have progressed as good

Ahhh ok I bench twice a week I can do 50 pounds in each hand for like 6 reps. Tbh bench is my weakest lift second to deadlift

 

[Deleted member 23558]

testosterone propionate, maybe very limited use in the late 40s and early 50s, there is no proof of anything - it's all speculation

dbol wasn't invented by Ciba pharmaceuticals until 1955

All testosterone esters are shit

 

[Wallenberg]

100 kg is good compared to untrained men. Not that good compared to serious trainers, but many men don't train seriously or at all.

 

[Deleted member 23391]

It’s interesting reading about the possibility of test and Dbol use in the late 40s/50s. What do you think ?

All I notice is that there is a huge change in physiques from the 30s to the 50s

I think the first roiding of olympic athletes (with test prop) started in 1952-ish. It's possible Doug roided to get to 500. Speculation.

 

[tasmanian devil]

Not really, any average guy can hit that within a year, max 2 of training with decent programming and diet

That doesnt mean the average guy who goes to the gym benches 225 though. if you bench 225 for 1 rep youre already above average strength when it comes to benching. most people who go to the gym are lazy freaks who go skip training often and eat like shit.