good is my god

[Deleted member 43881]

i’ve become obsessed with good and its definition.

god has created the laws of the universe, and has created what works. god gave teachings as guidance, not as laws because all true teachings succeed.

my favorite example of objective good and bad is:

if you are in a fight to the death, what is good and bad?

it’s objective, if not you lose according to nature.

my life is how much i live. a books pages aren’t lengthened by the time spent but by the actions done. this relative objective good of life is the only good that exists in the world.

all other philosophies are false and their entire existence is dependent on this ethical system. there is no higher order of philosophy.

@ey88 @PrinceLuenLeoncur @Bomber517 @cromagnon

 

[cooldude1231]

Winner doesnt equal good, it just means you won. Whether its good or bad is based off your personal ethics

 

[ey88]

What do you think is the best thing on earth?

 

[Deleted member 43881]

Winner doesnt equal good, it just means you won. Whether its good or bad is based off your personal ethics

winning = good bc morality doesn’t outside winning and losing

objective morality is the only real morality, everything else is tales

would you choose to die in a fight to the death? if you did die, who was better?

What do you think is the best thing on earth?

succeeding

a animal that succeeds is an animal that gets all its food, reproduces to create more of its own which take over more and more stuff to succeed, a cycle of success

 

[Deleted member 30959]

Schizophrenic angloid ramblings

 

[ey88]

winning = good bc morality doesn’t outside winning and losing

objective morality is the only real morality, everything else is tales

would you choose to die in a fight to the death? if you did die, who was better?


succeeding

a animal that succeeds is an animal that gets all its food, reproduces to create more of its own which take over more and more stuff to succeed, a cycle of success

I agree with you, but succeeding only matters if you are succeeding in something actually important

 

[Deleted member 43881]

I agree with you, but succeeding only matters if you are succeeding in something actually important

only according to what’s important in nature

 

[ProBono]

Mumbo jumbo, don't get what exactly you are talking about

Might makes right?

That morality is an evolutionary mechanism gone awry?

That everything should be done purely in service to the self? No objective morality there

I guess I do actually, ignoring everything manmade personal success is sort of an indicator of morality

You are buoyed towards pursuing success

It's an indicator in your design, it's morality

 

[Deleted member 100569]

God is good

 

[cooldude1231]

winning = good bc morality doesn’t outside winning and losing

objective morality is the only real morality

everything else is tales

Why? Your feelings are more important than muh objective morality
You cant even feel muh objectively morality, if someone is hurting your friend you will be mad at them for hurting your friend, you dont just go oh the guy being an asshole beating up my friend for no reason is actually in the right cause winners are good
Thats like tyrone fucking your girl and you just see him as a winner

 

[FBl]

ㅤ

 

[ey88]

only according to what’s important in nature

Killing and having sex

 

[Deleted member 43881]

ignoring everything manmade personal success is sort of an indicator of morality

how is this good?

God is good

good is god for all tensing purposes becuase god created good and we can’t know god outside of good

Your feelings are more important than muh objective morality

natural reaction to a truth doesn’t make it the reaction moral

you can feel that way but you lose

 

[Deleted member 43881]

Killing and having sex

this doesnt mean success by nature

 

[cooldude1231]

natural reaction to a truth doesn’t make it the reaction moral

you can feel that way but you lose

Mehhh i just dont see the point

 

[ey88]

this doesnt mean success by nature

How?

 

[Deleted member 43881]

How?

because it doesn’t help you survive nesscessarily

 

[ey88]

because it doesn’t help you survive nesscessarily

Sex lets your genes survive, and how does killing not help you survive? It’s literally how you get food

 

[Deleted member 43881]

Sex lets your genes survive, and how does killing not help you survive? It’s literally how you get food

you can’t teach your kids on how to be successive and your kids won’t be good

killing isn’t needed outside of farming anymore cuz of evolution

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

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i’ve become obsessed with good and its definition.

god has created the laws of the universe, and has created what works. god gave teachings as guidance, not as laws because all true teachings succeed.

my favorite example of objective good and bad is:

if you are in a fight to the death, what is good and bad?

it’s objective, if not you lose according to nature.

my life is how much i live. a books pages aren’t lengthened by the time spent but by the actions done. this relative objective good of life is the only good that exists in the world.

all other philosophies are false and their entire existence is dependent on this ethical system. there is no higher order of philosophy.

@ey88 @PrinceLuenLeoncur @Bomber517 @cromagnon

Motive is good and bad in this example

But reality is “evil” is the deprivation of good it’s that simple.

 

[Deleted member 43881]

Motive is good and bad in this example

But reality is “evil” is the deprivation of good it’s that simple.

do you agree with this good

 

[ProBono]

how is this good?

How is anything good

Sounds just like solipsism

The way I took it, this is what you are referring to:

That the moral compasses we invent are not holistic, they are social compasses

Ethics isn't morality in this case

The real moral compass is the very desire and urges that drive you to survival, reproduction and the pursuit of satisfaction

It's a compass guiding you, imbibed by God, a definite God who's nature is all there is to question

And that's all it is, a question

All you have is the compass hes placed inside of you, the construct through which you decide to act upon

It's good because it's you, and you are all you have
The ultimate "good" in this case, is to act upon the compass

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

do you agree with this good

My foundation of good is grounded within The divine mind of God.

If Gods energies are all good, then he’s the moral arbiter of Good and the standard for goodness. Doing anything against him is therefore “evil” and “Bad”

It’s that simple

 

[Deleted member 43881]

How is anything good

something is good because it works according to nature, which is given by god. (this morality can exist without god)

in darwinism when a trait is successive and becomes dominant, it a good trait

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

something is good because it works according to nature, which is given by god. (this morality can exist without god)

in darwinism when a trait is successive and becomes dominant, it a good trait

For the law is written on our hearts.

Some theorise that “blasphemy” against the Holy Spirit refers to ignoring these moral groundings.

 

[Deleted member 43881]

For the law is written on our hearts.

Some theorise that “blasphemy” against the Holy Spirit refers to ignoring these moral groundings.

the guidance of the past doesn’t hold much weight as time passes

the historical is a combination of the objective and subjective factors, the subjective by time. context is everything, without context—try reading a book in a language you can’t understand, or dress like you would in 1700

something that works in year 0 isn’t gonna work in 2024

if it works it’s true

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

the guidance of the past doesn’t hold much weight as time passes

the historical is a combination of the objective and subjective factors, the subjective by time. context is everything, without context—try reading a book in a language you can’t understand, or dress like you would in 1700

something that works in year 0 isn’t gonna work in 2024

if it works it’s true

Yes and this my friend is the argument I use for trying to explain to gaythiests and Mudslimes when they hate on the fact that my OT allows the Amlekites and Canaanite’s to be butchered.

Times were different and the barbarity of that time was such that drastic actions had to be implemented.

Doesn’t change the fact that what’s wrong we all know. The bible is a historical spiritual document, it doesn’t say things how it should be but what HAPPENED, god was upset with David for spilling a lot of blood and collecting 400 foreskins of his enemies so much so god refused to allow him to build a temple in his name.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

the guidance of the past doesn’t hold much weight as time passes

the historical is a combination of the objective and subjective factors, the subjective by time. context is everything, without context—try reading a book in a language you can’t understand, or dress like you would in 1700

something that works in year 0 isn’t gonna work in 2024

if it works it’s true

The fact is just like all real immaterial ontological entities and concepts that have true ontological existence that cannot be grounded within our naturalistic paradigm they must have an necessary cause and groundstion something many Gaythiests fail to realise and end up just going in circles saying “we just cannot know” which eventually leads them to say dumb shit like @noodlelover logic is an heuristic convention which then means he himself cannot even justify any argument he himself makes as it then becomes suspect and thus self defeating making argumentation impossible as nobody can draw conclusions to anything if there’s no objectivity.

This is the end point of atheist, nihilism, they’ll always end up having to say in many round about ways that EVERYTHING IS MEANINGLESS AND MEANS NOTHING ultimately.

 

[Ultimate Subhuman™]

Good

 

[WifeBeater6⁹]

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i’ve become obsessed with good and its definition.

god has created the laws of the universe, and has created what works. god gave teachings as guidance, not as laws because all true teachings succeed.

my favorite example of objective good and bad is:

if you are in a fight to the death, what is good and bad?

it’s objective, if not you lose according to nature.

my life is how much i live. a books pages aren’t lengthened by the time spent but by the actions done. this relative objective good of life is the only good that exists in the world.

all other philosophies are false and their entire existence is dependent on this ethical system. there is no higher order of philosophy.

@ey88 @PrinceLuenLeoncur @Bomber517 @cromagnon

 

[Bomber517]

Good boy.

 

[noodlelover]

The fact is just like all real immaterial ontological entities and concepts that have true ontological existence that cannot be grounded within our naturalistic paradigm they must have an necessary cause

You still don't understand what "cause" means.

Cause is change over time.

You're trying to apply it where it doesn't apply.

and groundstion something many Gaythiests fail to realise and end up just going in circles saying “we just cannot know” which eventually leads them to say dumb shit like @noodlelover logic is an heuristic convention which then means he himself cannot even justify any argument he himself makes as it then becomes suspect and thus self defeating making argumentation impossible as nobody can draw conclusions to anything if there’s no objectivity.

This is some dumb shit religious people say.

Logic is a set of heuristics that have helped us make sense of our streams of input.

But yet you think it has some magical properties and you can over-apply it where it doesn't apply coming to some insane conclusions.

I'm trying to explain to you why you're misapplying these logical concepts. Mainly that you don't understand what causality is, or how it applies.

This is the end point of atheist, nihilism, they’ll always end up having to say in many round about ways that EVERYTHING IS MEANINGLESS AND MEANS NOTHING ultimately.

So you admit that you believe things not because they are true, but because they make you feel better.

At least your admitting that your religious beliefs are pure cope.

I'm struggling to see where you're getting stuck with this logic:

If you can have an uncaused cause ("God") then you don't need to explain physics (from which math and logic are just partial representations of). You can just as easily say physics is an uncaused cause.

The question becomes then, why would you invent religion and god? The people who invented it where primitive humans who didn't understand anything about the reality. They didn't have math or science, or understand evolution. So to them, everything coming from one god or a small number of gods was a simpler explanation.

 

[ngannou]

Jesus is truth the way the life

 

[sportsmogger]

What do you think is the best thing on earth?

a nice cold soda

 

[ey88]

a nice cold soda

Yummy