Good looks don't bolster a man anywhere near as much as they do a women. But bad looks hurt a man drastically more than they do a woman

[MakinItHappen]

So I've been pondering this shit for a while now in 2025 and as I've moved through the year with the experiences I myself have had, along with my friends and various others that I have seen.

I have come to the gradual realisation and discovery that while people are right about looks mattering a lot in being a key and crucial component in a man's life and overall what personality he has... It actually isn't as much of a benefit as many make out on here, because even when you still look good, people expect you to back it up. And if anything, the better you look, the more you need to back it up, as the immediate judgement will be you just rely on your looks. Or you are just that good looking guy that's a bit dumb.

See this is how I see it.

- Women benefit extraordinarily from being hot
- While men only benefit slightly from being hot. Unless it's elite Chad as fuck.

The key is. Men suffer most when they are not even slightly attractive. As being slightly attractive is the expected norm for a man today.

So in summary women benefit more from actual good looks itself than men. The pussy pass etc, but men are penalised most, when they don't even reach a minimum threshold of attractiveness. Like let's say a 6.

In other words, I'm noticing in order to be treated or seen as normal as a man, you have to be at least slightly attractive. Otherwise you gotta be that performing seal, always playing the role of someone who is so neurotypically in tune with everything. In other words a people pleasing follower.

These are just some deeper thoughts I've been having.

 

[Johanjohan]

Bad looks affect women more u stupid indian

Ugly male celebrities and rich guys can pull tons of girls

 

[KeepCopingLads]

So I've been pondering this shit for a while now in 2025 and as I've moved through the year with the experiences I myself have had, along with my friends and various others that I have seen.

I have come to the gradual realisation and discovery that while people are right about looks mattering a lot in being a key and crucial component in a man's life and overall what personality he has... It actually isn't as much of a benefit as many make out on here, because even when you still look good, people expect you to back it up. And if anything, the better you look, the more you need to back it up, as the immediate judgement will be you just rely on your looks. Or you are just that good looking guy that's a bit dumb.

See this is how I see it.

- Women benefit extraordinarily from being hot
- While men only benefit slightly from being hot. Unless it's elite Chad as fuck.

The key is. Men suffer most when they are not even slightly attractive. As being slightly attractive is the expected norm for a man today.

So in summary women benefit more from actual good looks itself than men. The pussy pass etc, but men are penalised most, when they don't even reach a minimum threshold of attractiveness. Like let's say a 6.

In other words, I'm noticing in order to be treated or seen as normal as a man, you have to be at least slightly attractive. Otherwise you gotta be that performing seal, always playing the role of someone who is so neurotypically in tune with everything. In other words a people pleasing follower.

These are just some deeper thoughts I've been having.

and its easier for women to be more ''slightly attractive'' as all a mtb needs is makeup to fraud

 

[KeepCopingLads]

Bad looks affect women more u stupid indian

Ugly male celebrities and rich guys can pull tons of girls

status pill also true

 

[White_Bwoi]

Close proximity, friend group, being seen as "NT" rather than autistic is underrated..
If you're hotter than average guy + tall there is a chance of absurd level pull, not gonna lie, I had Stacey interested in me just because I passed the looks threshold & was the funniest guy in the room (I ended up not doing anything because of MUH LTR , biggest mistake ever).

Agree, there Is just a threshold, and don't generalize too much, there are ltb's not interested in me and htb that look at me like an animal, this is weird shit, not that black & white, water In 2025

 

[Johanjohan]

status pill also true

Just be white pill

Ethnics are incels

 

[Johanjohan]

Close proximity, friend group, being seen as "NT" rather than autistic is underrated..
If you're hotter than average guy + tall there is a chance of absurd level pull, not gonna lie, I had Stacey interested in me just because I passed the looks threshold & was the funniest guy in the room (I ended up not doing anything because of MUH LTR , biggest mistake ever).

Agree, there Is just a threshold, and don't generalize too much, there are ltb's not interested in me and htb that look at me like an animal, this is weird shit, not that black & white, water In 2025

Women have no standards

Most women are dating ltn white normies

 

[robert3]

Bad looks affect women more u stupid indian

Ugly male celebrities and rich guys can pull tons of girls

bad looking women get fucked by more attractive guys then settle down with their looksmatch
ltbs get fucked by mtn-htns and settle down with betabuxxes often
ugly male celebrities are betabuxxed and are 1 in 100000000

 

[Johanjohan]

bad looking women get fucked by more attractive guys then settle down with their looksmatch
ltbs get fucked by mtn-htns and settle down with betabuxxes often
ugly male celebrities are betabuxxed and are 1 in 100000000

Tales from indian incel

Almost No goodlooking guy would date an ugly girl

 

[KeepCopingLads]

Ethnics are incels

no.

 

[White_Bwoi]

Almost No goodlooking guy would date an ugly girl

I agree and incels here tell tales that "femcels don't exist " basing on some outlandish examples of onlyfans fatty models... I SHUN fucking fatties, I don't even look at ltb's in the eye to not provoke them lol, looks are EVERYTHING, but at some level you also have standards (sometimes unrealistic and delusional tho xD)

 

[MakinItHappen]

status pill also true

ISoSpeed is at least 6 in facial attractiveness and a far above average body.

 

[renos]

Nah, i think an attractive man benefits more from being attractive, because it's rarer

Through make-up and all this shit the average female is more attractive than the average male, this makes an attractive male stand out a lot more

But i definitely agree that ugly men have it harder than ugly females

 

[renos]

But i definitely agree that ugly men have it harder than ugly females

or better said, i can imagine that unattractive men suffer more, but i can't really say anything, because I'm neither unattractive, nor a female

 

[AlphaLooksmaxxer666]

women even if ugly, have a lot of options. Men on the other hand, its over if ugly.

 

[averagenormie]

So I've been pondering this shit for a while now in 2025 and as I've moved through the year with the experiences I myself have had, along with my friends and various others that I have seen.

I have come to the gradual realisation and discovery that while people are right about looks mattering a lot in being a key and crucial component in a man's life and overall what personality he has... It actually isn't as much of a benefit as many make out on here, because even when you still look good, people expect you to back it up. And if anything, the better you look, the more you need to back it up, as the immediate judgement will be you just rely on your looks. Or you are just that good looking guy that's a bit dumb.

See this is how I see it.

- Women benefit extraordinarily from being hot
- While men only benefit slightly from being hot. Unless it's elite Chad as fuck.

The key is. Men suffer most when they are not even slightly attractive. As being slightly attractive is the expected norm for a man today.

So in summary women benefit more from actual good looks itself than men. The pussy pass etc, but men are penalised most, when they don't even reach a minimum threshold of attractiveness. Like let's say a 6.

In other words, I'm noticing in order to be treated or seen as normal as a man, you have to be at least slightly attractive. Otherwise you gotta be that performing seal, always playing the role of someone who is so neurotypically in tune with everything. In other words a people pleasing follower.

These are just some deeper thoughts I've been having.

Don't be a people pleaser and don't try to fit in,be your own person

 

[MakinItHappen]

Don't be a people pleaser and don't try to fit in,be your own person

? Who said I was doing anything of the sort ?