Good maxilla, bad under-eye support?

[Ocelot]

I think I have a good maxilla but I have hollow under-eyes and dark circles. Genetically I store very little fat around the eyes, but I feel like that shouldn't be an absolute necessity for good under-eyes. Is this common? I can PM trusted users.

 

[Deleted member 6873]

What's your pheno? I read a thread that North Atlantid has good maxilla but bad undereye support.

The North Atlantid Falio

According to the phenotype guide, north Atlantids have “compressed malars” where the cheekbones project outwards at the zygomatic arch, but then slope inwards towards the nasal area. This naturally leaves north atlantids with very flat undereyes as they lack the infraorbital projection due to...

looksmax.org

Here it is

OR it could be lack of fat/ hyperpigmentation i've had dark circles my entire life and i've gotten very good results from the Ordinary Caffeine serum after about 2 months of usage!

 

[Ocelot]

What's your pheno? I read a thread that North Atlantid has good maxilla but bad undereye support.

The North Atlantid Falio

According to the phenotype guide, north Atlantids have “compressed malars” where the cheekbones project outwards at the zygomatic arch, but then slope inwards towards the nasal area. This naturally leaves north atlantids with very flat undereyes as they lack the infraorbital projection due to...

looksmax.org

Here it is

OR it could be lack of fat/ hyperpigmentation i've had dark circles my entire life and i've gotten very good results from the Ordinary Caffeine serum after about 2 months of usage!

I am Indian. I described in the original post that I lack fat around the eyes. Even when 17-18% BF, I have almost no fat there. I also have hyperpigmentation there. I am not so sure if it's just the fat, or it's also an issue with my bones.

I will definitely check the product you mentioned out. Thanks for the suggestion.

Also I expected Gandy and O'Pry to have way better maxillae. Odd.

 

[Deleted member 6873]

I am Indian. I described in the original post that I lack fat around the eyes. Even when 17-18% BF, I have almost no fat there. I also have hyperpigmentation there. I am not so sure if it's just the fat, or it's also an issue with my bones.

I will definitely check the product you mentioned out. Thanks for the suggestion.

Also I expected Gandy and O'Pry to have way better maxillae. Odd.

Yeah man, hyperpigmentation and dark circles are very common among Indians.

 

[Lawyer]

Do you have a negative orbital vector?

 

[Ocelot]

Yeah man, hyperpigmentation and dark circles are very common among Indians.

Indeed. It's almost like the majority of people in my class.

Do you have a negative orbital vector?

I don't know man. That's why I made this thread, I don't know if my bad under-eye region is caused by bad bones or lack of fat.

 

[Deleted member 3163]

Same issue here, amazing forward grown maxilla, wide pallet but bad undereye support

 

[Deleted member 6873]

Indeed. It's almost like the majority of people in my class.

I don't know man. That's why I made this thread, I don't know if my bad under-eye region is caused by bad bones or lack of fat.

I think maxilla isnt the cause of your problems, a lot of people with somewhat flat/bad maxillas have 0 dark circles, hell my friend with flat maxilla has good undereye support. Imo it's probably pheno related than bone!

 

[Ocelot]

Same issue here, amazing forward grown maxilla, wide pallet but bad undereye support

Do you have a negative orbital vector?

I think maxilla isnt the cause of your problems, a lot of people with somewhat flat/bad maxillas have 0 dark circles, hell my friend with flat maxilla has good undereye support. Imo it's probably pheno related than bone!

Does NCT indicate bad under-eye support?

 

[CursedOne]

curries have bad low orbital rims

 

[Deleted member 6873]

Does NCT indicate bad under-eye support?

Nope

 

[Deleted member 1751]

I am Indian. I described in the original post that I lack fat around the eyes. Even when 17-18% BF, I have almost no fat there. I also have hyperpigmentation there. I am not so sure if it's just the fat, or it's also an issue with my bones.

I will definitely check the product you mentioned out. Thanks for the suggestion.

Also I expected Gandy and O'Pry to have way better maxillae. Odd.

I have it too. I just want to loose few more kilos and I'll have hollow cheeks. I still have it at being 20% in some lighting and cheekbones are very visible. That means my maxila and cheekbones are no way recessed. But my undereye from side look like that. Not dark though

 

[Lawyer]

I don't know man.

Take a side profile pic and then compare to this pic:

 

[Lawyer]

Does NCT indicate bad under-eye support?

No, but scleral show does.

 

[Ocelot]

No, but scleral show does.

Ok because I have minor NCT but 0 scleral show. Must be the lack of fat then. Thanks.

 

[000]

I think I have a good maxilla but I have hollow under-eyes and dark circles. Genetically I store very little fat around the eyes, but I feel like that shouldn't be an absolute necessity for good under-eyes. Is this common? I can PM trusted users.

Maybe your maxilla is not laterally grown enough, try getting MSE.

 

[Deleted member 5349]

I’m more forward grown than most people. Perfect bite and never had braces. Visible anteface from side profile, yet I have undereye hollowness. Gonna look into infraorbitals rim implants. They should ascend me hard