Good untrained frame?

[Chara]

Idk take a normal pic

 

[Mess]

Idk take a normal pic

This is from two years ago, when I was 14. I don't think I'm flexing in this.
@AverageCurryEnjoyer You can see the gyno better in this. Fuck it wasn't even that bad, goddamn.

 

[dnrwarrior11]

Probably in the future, I have neither the money nor the cunningness to hide it from my parents.

its not very expensive at all though honestly so money isnt a problem unless ur dead broke or are planning to run something more expensive like hgh

and how old are u? im 16 and i convinced my parents to let me roid. before that a few years back i was doing it anyways without them even knowing though.

 

[Mess]

its not very expensive at all though honestly so money isnt a problem unless ur dead broke or are planning to run something more expensive like hgh

I need a job badly, I spend so much money on going out and shit.

I don't think money is even the major concern. My parents genuinely would castrate me. They're retards and wouldn't listen to a word of explanation.

and how old are u? im 16 and i convinced my parents to let me roid. before that a few years back i was doing it anyways without them even knowing though.

I'm 16 too. Fuck man I could be so much bigger with test and gh.

 

[dnrwarrior11]

need a job badly, I spend so much money on going out and shit.

yea i dont spend shit but either way it wouldnt be much of a problem cuz my friends and family give me money occasionally

I don't think money is even the major concern. My parents genuinely would castrate me. They're retards and wouldn't listen to a word of explanation.

yea before i explained everything to my mom it was soo annoying shes high inhib as fuck and so is my dad and they always swear by the "muh naturalll"

its like yea ur natural but ur still overweight

I'm 16 too. Fuck man I could be so much bigger with test and gh.

oo ok

but honestly it depends on ur genetics its not just "muh take steroids and get big" lol. i did get pretty big though when i was 14, it was the biggest i had gotten but i was literally on 500 test lmfao

i had gotten bad gyno though because i didnt know how to do shit and i had problems with my heart and kidneys

 

[Mess]

but honestly it depends on ur genetics its not just "muh take steroids and get big" lol.

Let's just hope that I'm a hyper-responder or something.

i had gotten bad gyno though because i didnt know how to do shit and i had problems with my heart and kidneys

Ye ye, gotta balance that dastardly progesterone/estrogen.

 

[dnrwarrior11]

Let's just hope that I'm a hyper-responder or something.

if i were u i would just hope to be able to make extra gains and thats really it. get too big and ur just ogre looking obviously

u should rather be worrying about what ur going to experience on this shit though lmao

Ye ye, gotta balance that dastardly progesterone/estrogen.

yea at the time i didnt even know shit i just heard about "take roids and look better bro" from here and being the dumbass kid i was i went and did it

i had also done some other stuff but i just say i did test

 

[Mess]

if i were u i would just hope to be able to make extra gains and thats really it. get too big and ur just ogre looking obviously

u should rather be worrying about what ur going to experience on this shit though lmao

I'm probably just going to start gymcelling. Working on the aesthetic parts (shoulders, chest, quads, etc).

 

[dnrwarrior11]

lmao i remember watching this shit

I'm probably just going to start gymcelling. Working on the aesthetic parts (shoulders, chest, quads, etc).

yep, natty gymcelling is fine honestly u could still make some great gains doing that

dont do legs unless u have chicken legs or a flat ass. i mean u can do some like leg extensions and shit but i wouldnt care too much for them

the biggest ROI muscle groups for me personally were shoulders, forearms, arms, and neck. abs too but thats just water

 

[AverageCurryEnjoyer]

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This is from two years ago, when I was 14. I don't think I'm flexing in this.
@AverageCurryEnjoyer You can see the gyno better in this. Fuck it wasn't even that bad, goddamn.

literally looks fine

 

[Mess]

literally looks fine

There's still a considerable amount of tissue underneath the nipple, fucking sucks for whenever I have my shirt off.

 

[AverageCurryEnjoyer]

b

There's still a considerable amount of tissue underneath the nipple, fucking sucks for whenever I have my shirt off.

etter than mine but genuinely have good muscle inserts, train upper chest and thats it

 

[Mess]

b

etter than mine but genuinely have good muscle inserts, train upper chest and thats it

My chest insertions are ass, the dividing part across the sternum is horrendous. You’re not wrong about working in upper chest though.