Greatest example I found of bad vs good frame after gymcelling

[6foot3Mediterranean]

Same weight, similar weight but completely different clavicle position

look at those abs on the left lmao looks comically unaesthetic

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[GrowthReaper]

how are those stats possible? I weigh more than them at the same bf% yet I'm 4 inches shorter and don't look more muscular

 

[User28823]

left abs are more aesthetic than the right abs
just short torso
jeff seid has same downward abs and aesthetic af
left hips mog right hips
but right obviously framemogs

 

[Deleted member 30037]

SHOULDERS OR DEATH

 

[6foot3Mediterranean]

how are those stats possible? I weigh more than them at the same bf% yet I'm 4 inches shorter and don't look more muscular

totally different body composition

you might have more concentrated weight on legs, belly or butt

 

[MakinMogReturns]

left abs are more aesthetic than the right abs
just short torso
jeff seid has same downward abs and aesthetic af
left hips mog right hips
but right obviously framemogs

left has better insertions just shit frame tbh

 

[GrowthReaper]

totally different body composition

you might have more concentrated weight on legs, belly or butt

maybe all the heightmaxxing made my bones super dense

 

[Orc]

both look bad.

 

[Deleted member 47263]

Same weight, similar weight but completely different clavicle position

look at those abs on the left lmao looks comically unaesthetic
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both of these frames are ass lmfao

 

[klamus]

72kg. Thats not real

 

[adam_ross2549]

innacurate af.

 

[Dystopian]

I just see two 6’2 bvllS with mid physiques

 

[IndraBC]

Same weight, similar weight but completely different clavicle position

look at those abs on the left lmao looks comically unaesthetic
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Frame = shoulders + back + narrow waist

 

[Deleted member 8758]

Same weight, similar weight but completely different clavicle position

look at those abs on the left lmao looks comically unaesthetic
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Its not just clavicle position, the clavicle can have different shapes/curvature.

My clavicles are kinda bowed.

 

[casadebanho]

Same weight, similar weight but completely different clavicle position

look at those abs on the left lmao looks comically unaesthetic
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Look at Left vs Right chest insertions...

wish I had right's chest insertions, genetics are brutal