Greycels/newcels GTFIH if you wanna start a cycle

[jeff1234]

Well, I see a lot of greys here just speaking nonsense about the use of AAS, SARMs etc. so I wanna make the best cycle for muscle mass, skin and maybe even height. If you’re an already know what you’re doing, you don’t have to read this.
I will keep it the simplest I can.

I see some people here talking about using ridiculous amount of different roids which is pointless imo and I will tell you why:

In your first cycle you only need 4 compounds (HGH,test,reta,var) which we will talk about now . Let’s end this once and for all:

1. HGH, why should you use it? Well, HGH got popular for helping with height which is not the case at all, HGH won’t increase a single cm unless you start using it when you’re 8-12.
The only acceptable reason to use HGH is for muscles, skin and and hair. Litterally the best peptide out there imo.
dosages: do 4-8 depends on you.

• Ancillaries: HGH usually doesn’t require you to use ancillaries since it’s not that potent but if you wanna go 100% safe then use metrofmin and berb beacuse it Counteracts HGH induced insulin resistance long-term.
• eplerenone/nebivolol to reduce water retention.
• GHK-cu

2. Test, why should you use it? Pretty obvious tbh, it increases dimorphism, builds muscle, making you look like a MAN, should I keep going?
Test is by far the best steroid for building muscles.
Dosages: I suggest to start from 250 mg, and increase it to 500 mg after a few weeks.
Ancillaries:

• AI to inhibit test converting to estrogen, best to use is aromasin.
• Dut and RU + topical minox to compete with hair loss.
• Accutane and Taz for acne
• GHK-cu, because why not jfl?
• Amiloride

3.retatrutide, why should you use it? Retatrutide is the best GLP-1 agonist by far no debate. It’s good to use it while cycling to keep being lean and burn fat.
Start from 4mg and increase it to 10 when you feel like it. Doens really matter.
No ancillaires needed.

4. Anavar, why you should use it? Var is the best oral steroid that synergies the best with test. It will help you build lean muscle and good amount of it actually.
Start from 20 mg and increase your way up to 40-50 mg.

• Ancillaires are the same as with test. If you want you can add liver support and you want to be very caution even tho anavar has very mild and reversible damage to the liver so use TUDCA and NAC.
• GHK-cu

I wrote this in a rush so don’t switch on me, if I said something wrong, point it out.

@chadbeingmade @Copercel @Jonasㅤㅤ @Hernan idk who else to tag

 

[jeff1234]

Well, I see a lot of greys here just speaking nonsense about the use of AAS, SARMs etc. so I wanna make the best cycle for muscle mass, skin and maybe even height. If you’re an already know what you’re doing, you don’t have to read this.
I will keep it the simplest I can.

I see some people here talking about using ridiculous amount of different roids which is pointless imo and I will tell you why:

In your first cycle you only need 4 compounds (HGH,test,reta,var) which we will talk about them later. Let’s end this once and for all:

1. HGH, why should you use it? Well, HGH got popular for helping with height which is not the case at all, HGH won’t increase a single cm unless you start using it when you’re 8-12.
The only acceptable reason to use HGH is for muscles, skin and and hair. Litterally the best peptide out there imo.
dosages: do 4-8 depends on how bad you wanna look like a PSL god.

• Ancillaries: HGH usually doesn’t require you to use ancillaries since it’s not that potent but if you wanna go 100% safe then use metrofmin and berb beacuse it Counteracts HGH induced insulin resistance long-term.
• eplerenone/nebivolol to reduce water retention.
• GHK-cu

2. Test, why should you use it? Pretty obvious tbh, it increases dimorphism, builds muscle, making you look like a MAN, should I keep going?
Test is by far the best steroid for building muscles.
Dosages: I suggest to start from 250 mg, and increase it to 500 mg after a few weeks.
Ancillaries:

• AI to inhibit test converting to estrogen, best to use is aromasin.
• Dut and RU + topical minox to compete with hair loss.
• Accutane and Taz for acne
• GHK-cu, because why not jfl?
• Amiloride

3.retatrutide, why should you use it? Retatrutide is the best GLP-1 agonist by far no debate. It’s good to use it while cycling to keep being lean and burn fat.
Start from 4mg and increase it to 10 when you feel like it. Doens really matter.
No ancillaires needed.

4. Anavar, why you should use it? Var is the best oral steroid that synergies the best with test. It will help you build lean muscle and good amount of it actually.
Start from 20 mg and increase your way up to 40-50 mg.

• Ancillaires are the same as with test. If you want you can add liver support and you want to be very caution even tho anavar has very mild and reversible damage to the liver so use TUDCA and NAC.
• GHK-cu

I wrote this in a rush so don’t switch on me, if I said something wrong, point it out.

@chadbeingmade @Copercel @Jonasㅤㅤ @Hernan idk who else to tag

Here before getting the “GPT” allegations because I used bullets JFL

 

[keife]

Here before getting the “GPT” allegations because I used bullets JFL

Mirin iq

 

[jeff1234]

Mirin iq

Not really but thanks I guess.

 

[keife]

Not really but thanks I guess.

U know more then 99% of the kids here u good

 

[AryanSchizo]

i’m not wanting to take roids or anything like that , what would you suggest for me if my goal physique is brad pitt fight club. i just wanna be shredded af and lean not big and bulky

 

[jeff1234]

i’m not wanting to take roids or anything like that , what would you suggest for me if my goal physique is brad pitt fight club. i just wanna be shredded af and lean not big and bulky

That phisique is a normal physique, people glazed him because of his face not physique. Just be skinny

 

[iblamemandible7]

HGH won’t increase a single cm unless you start using it when you’re 8-12.

Just reduce competition theory

 

[jeff1234]

Just reduce competition theory

You think after 12 you will grow more than 1-3 cm?

 

[-=t3rm1n4t0r_2005=-]

build lean muscle

you sure it won't be the bulky muscle? I just want to get toned not too big bro can't let the var make me gain bulky muscle

 

[Mike456]

Well, I see a lot of greys here just speaking nonsense about the use of AAS, SARMs etc. so I wanna make the best cycle for muscle mass, skin and maybe even height. If you’re an already know what you’re doing, you don’t have to read this.
I will keep it the simplest I can.

I see some people here talking about using ridiculous amount of different roids which is pointless imo and I will tell you why:

In your first cycle you only need 4 compounds (HGH,test,reta,var) which we will talk about now . Let’s end this once and for all:

1. HGH, why should you use it? Well, HGH got popular for helping with height which is not the case at all, HGH won’t increase a single cm unless you start using it when you’re 8-12.
The only acceptable reason to use HGH is for muscles, skin and and hair. Litterally the best peptide out there imo.
dosages: do 4-8 depends on you.

• Ancillaries: HGH usually doesn’t require you to use ancillaries since it’s not that potent but if you wanna go 100% safe then use metrofmin and berb beacuse it Counteracts HGH induced insulin resistance long-term.
• eplerenone/nebivolol to reduce water retention.
• GHK-cu

2. Test, why should you use it? Pretty obvious tbh, it increases dimorphism, builds muscle, making you look like a MAN, should I keep going?
Test is by far the best steroid for building muscles.
Dosages: I suggest to start from 250 mg, and increase it to 500 mg after a few weeks.
Ancillaries:

• AI to inhibit test converting to estrogen, best to use is aromasin.
• Dut and RU + topical minox to compete with hair loss.
• Accutane and Taz for acne
• GHK-cu, because why not jfl?
• Amiloride

3.retatrutide, why should you use it? Retatrutide is the best GLP-1 agonist by far no debate. It’s good to use it while cycling to keep being lean and burn fat.
Start from 4mg and increase it to 10 when you feel like it. Doens really matter.
No ancillaires needed.

4. Anavar, why you should use it? Var is the best oral steroid that synergies the best with test. It will help you build lean muscle and good amount of it actually.
Start from 20 mg and increase your way up to 40-50 mg.

• Ancillaires are the same as with test. If you want you can add liver support and you want to be very caution even tho anavar has very mild and reversible damage to the liver so use TUDCA and NAC.
• GHK-cu

I wrote this in a rush so don’t switch on me, if I said something wrong, point it out.

@chadbeingmade @Copercel @Jonasㅤㅤ @Hernan idk who else to tag

Mirin bhai what do you think about ky cycle(the prices will change)

 

[jeff1234]

Mirin bhai what do you think about ky cycle(the prices will change)View attachment 3898592

It’s great. Get the enclo it though

 

[jeff1234]

you sure it won't be the bulky muscle? I just want to get toned not too big bro can't let the var make me gain bulky muscle

Yes var is for lean gains

 

[-=t3rm1n4t0r_2005=-]

Yes var is for lean gains

nice. good to know there are roids for toning

 

[Midasw]

Well, I see a lot of greys here just speaking nonsense about the use of AAS, SARMs etc. so I wanna make the best cycle for muscle mass, skin and maybe even height. If you’re an already know what you’re doing, you don’t have to read this.
I will keep it the simplest I can.

I see some people here talking about using ridiculous amount of different roids which is pointless imo and I will tell you why:

In your first cycle you only need 4 compounds (HGH,test,reta,var) which we will talk about now . Let’s end this once and for all:

1. HGH, why should you use it? Well, HGH got popular for helping with height which is not the case at all, HGH won’t increase a single cm unless you start using it when you’re 8-12.
The only acceptable reason to use HGH is for muscles, skin and and hair. Litterally the best peptide out there imo.
dosages: do 4-8 depends on you.

• Ancillaries: HGH usually doesn’t require you to use ancillaries since it’s not that potent but if you wanna go 100% safe then use metrofmin and berb beacuse it Counteracts HGH induced insulin resistance long-term.
• eplerenone/nebivolol to reduce water retention.
• GHK-cu

2. Test, why should you use it? Pretty obvious tbh, it increases dimorphism, builds muscle, making you look like a MAN, should I keep going?
Test is by far the best steroid for building muscles.
Dosages: I suggest to start from 250 mg, and increase it to 500 mg after a few weeks.
Ancillaries:

• AI to inhibit test converting to estrogen, best to use is aromasin.
• Dut and RU + topical minox to compete with hair loss.
• Accutane and Taz for acne
• GHK-cu, because why not jfl?
• Amiloride

3.retatrutide, why should you use it? Retatrutide is the best GLP-1 agonist by far no debate. It’s good to use it while cycling to keep being lean and burn fat.
Start from 4mg and increase it to 10 when you feel like it. Doens really matter.
No ancillaires needed.

4. Anavar, why you should use it? Var is the best oral steroid that synergies the best with test. It will help you build lean muscle and good amount of it actually.
Start from 20 mg and increase your way up to 40-50 mg.

• Ancillaires are the same as with test. If you want you can add liver support and you want to be very caution even tho anavar has very mild and reversible damage to the liver so use TUDCA and NAC.
• GHK-cu

I wrote this in a rush so don’t switch on me, if I said something wrong, point it out.

@chadbeingmade @Copercel @Jonasㅤㅤ @Hernan idk who else to tag

hgh can add up to 15 cm even after age 13

 

[jeff1234]

hgh can add up to 15 cm even after age 13

Source?

 

[Midasw]

Source?

burden of proof falls on you , but since youre wrong...

Aromatase-inhibitors Treatment Alone or with GH Increases Final Height in Short-Statured Pubertal Boys - Real-World Data - PubMed

AI treatment extends the growth period, resulting in an AHt surpassing initial predictions. Our findings underscore the potential of AI treatment in mid-pubertal boys with a short PAHt due to advanced BA and in those treated with GH for ISS.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The combination of Aromatase inhibitors and growth hormone treatment for idiopathic short stature in male adolescents - PubMed

For adolescent males with ISS and a bone age ≥ 13 years, the combination of AI and rhGH significantly increased the adult height (AHt). Finally, our analyses showed that anastrozole exerts more significant effects with regards to augment AHt with fewer adverse reactions.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Midasw]

You think after 12 you will grow more than 1-3 cm?

i dont "think it" iqcell, i research it, people grow after theyre 13, does that just magically happen? or is it endogenous hgh induced growth? think before you speak

 

[LuhManiac]

Saved actually good

 

[LuhManiac]

How much Berberine and Metformin would you recommend? I want to start HGH 4IU for beginning.

 

[jeff1234]

i dont "think it" iqcell, i research it, people grow after theyre 13, does that just magically happen? or is it endogenous hgh induced growth? think before you speak

Oh god… you fucking retard don’t ever comment here on my post.

 

[jeff1234]

How much Berberine and Metformin would you recommend? I want to start HGH 4IU for beginning.

Start from 500 mg metrofmin and 1000 mg berb

 

[Midasw]

Oh god… you fucking retard don’t ever comment here on my post.

muh ad hominemrope yourself faggot

 

[Hernan]

Well, I see a lot of greys here just speaking nonsense about the use of AAS, SARMs etc. so I wanna make the best cycle for muscle mass, skin and maybe even height. If you’re an already know what you’re doing, you don’t have to read this.
I will keep it the simplest I can.

I see some people here talking about using ridiculous amount of different roids which is pointless imo and I will tell you why:

In your first cycle you only need 4 compounds (HGH,test,reta,var) which we will talk about now . Let’s end this once and for all:

1. HGH, why should you use it? Well, HGH got popular for helping with height which is not the case at all, HGH won’t increase a single cm unless you start using it when you’re 8-12.
The only acceptable reason to use HGH is for muscles, skin and and hair. Litterally the best peptide out there imo.
dosages: do 4-8 depends on you.

• Ancillaries: HGH usually doesn’t require you to use ancillaries since it’s not that potent but if you wanna go 100% safe then use metrofmin and berb beacuse it Counteracts HGH induced insulin resistance long-term.
• eplerenone/nebivolol to reduce water retention.
• GHK-cu

2. Test, why should you use it? Pretty obvious tbh, it increases dimorphism, builds muscle, making you look like a MAN, should I keep going?
Test is by far the best steroid for building muscles.
Dosages: I suggest to start from 250 mg, and increase it to 500 mg after a few weeks.
Ancillaries:

• AI to inhibit test converting to estrogen, best to use is aromasin.
• Dut and RU + topical minox to compete with hair loss.
• Accutane and Taz for acne
• GHK-cu, because why not jfl?
• Amiloride

3.retatrutide, why should you use it? Retatrutide is the best GLP-1 agonist by far no debate. It’s good to use it while cycling to keep being lean and burn fat.
Start from 4mg and increase it to 10 when you feel like it. Doens really matter.
No ancillaires needed.

4. Anavar, why you should use it? Var is the best oral steroid that synergies the best with test. It will help you build lean muscle and good amount of it actually.
Start from 20 mg and increase your way up to 40-50 mg.

• Ancillaires are the same as with test. If you want you can add liver support and you want to be very caution even tho anavar has very mild and reversible damage to the liver so use TUDCA and NAC.
• GHK-cu

I wrote this in a rush so don’t switch on me, if I said something wrong, point it out.

@chadbeingmade @Copercel @Jonasㅤㅤ @Hernan idk who else to tag

bump nice thread b, next thread on dutasteride? About the sterilization they say it gives?

 

[inversions]

4. Anavar, why you should use it? Var is the best oral steroid that synergies the best with test. It will help you build lean muscle and good amount of it actually.
Start from 20 mg and increase your way up to 40-50 mg.

• Ancillaires are the same as with test. If you want you can add liver support and you want to be very caution even tho anavar has very mild and reversible damage to the liver so use TUDCA and NAC.
• GHK-cu

@Sujumh

 

[Sujumh]

@Sujumh

i cannot pin boyo only oral

 

[inversions]

i cannot pin boyo only oral

u can hide it nigga

 

[thecaste]

Read everything. Bravo
Why do you recommend ghk specifically while on hgh/test? Just for collagen?

 

[thecaste]

i cannot pin boyo only oral

Never even began for oralcels

 

[Vannen1234]

the fact you had to post this says something about the people on this forum

 

[jeff1234]

Read everything. Bravo
Why do you recommend ghk specifically while on hgh/test? Just for collagen?

I suggest to do GHK-cu in general your whole life tbh. Dont mind where I wrote it, do it with every compound.

 

[jeff1234]

the fact you had to post this says something about the people on this forum

Yeah, it’s sad actually. Most of the people here are kids

 

[thecaste]

I suggest to do GHK-cu in general your whole life tbh. Dont mind where I wrote it, do it with every compound.

Okay, that's what I thought, thanks. Do you know the effects from ghk on rosacea by any chance? I have type 1 rosacea (vascular) and I'm afraid it might worsen it because of increased angiogenesis.

 

[Vannen1234]

Yeah, it’s sad actually. Most of the people here are kids

most of these kids also abuse SARMS as they think there isnt any side effects

 

[jeff1234]

bump nice thread b, next thread on dutasteride? About the sterilization they say it gives?

I think that chadbeingmade and Jonas have already pointed it’s very rare.

 

[jeff1234]

Okay, that's what I thought, thanks. Do you know the effects from ghk on rosacea by any chance? I have type 1 rosacea (vascular) and I'm afraid it might worsen it because of increased angiogenesis.

It complicated but potentially it can.
GHK-cu can reduce cytokines like IL-6 and TNF-alpha, which are elevated in rosacea but it isn’t guaranteed it will help your rosacea by 100%.

 

[jeff1234]

most of these kids also abuse SARMS as they think there isnt any side effects

Yeah I might do a thread about that, SARMs can be worse than roids.

 

[Vannen1234]

Yeah I might do a thread about that, SARMs can be worse than roids.

definetly worth doing that @ me when you do anyway this is a good thread

 

[thecaste]

It complicated but potentially it can.
GHK-cu can reduce cytokines like IL-6 and TNF-alpha, which are elevated in rosacea but it isn’t guaranteed it will help your rosacea by 100%.

Alright, thanks for your advice!

 

[jeff1234]

burden of proof falls on you , but since youre wrong...

Aromatase-inhibitors Treatment Alone or with GH Increases Final Height in Short-Statured Pubertal Boys - Real-World Data - PubMed

AI treatment extends the growth period, resulting in an AHt surpassing initial predictions. Our findings underscore the potential of AI treatment in mid-pubertal boys with a short PAHt due to advanced BA and in those treated with GH for ISS.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The combination of Aromatase inhibitors and growth hormone treatment for idiopathic short stature in male adolescents - PubMed

For adolescent males with ISS and a bone age ≥ 13 years, the combination of AI and rhGH significantly increased the adult height (AHt). Finally, our analyses showed that anastrozole exerts more significant effects with regards to augment AHt with fewer adverse reactions.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Are you fucking stupid ?
There’s a difference between natural pubertal growth and exogenous HGH effects. Of course people grow after 13. That’s not proof that injecting HGH at 13-14+ is going to add 15 cm, retards.org.

The studies you sent were on boys with idiopathic short stature or delayed puberty, that’s a medical condition. And they didn’t use HGH alone, they used it with AIs to delay bone plate closure.

HGH is not some magic compound that makes you grow 15 cm out of nowhere. Not even 15 iu of HGH will.

 

[Sujumh]

u can hide it nigga

up my ass nigger

 

[Midasw]

Are you fucking stupid ?
There’s a difference between natural pubertal growth and exogenous HGH effects. Of course people grow after 13. That’s not proof that injecting HGH at 13-14+ is going to add 15 cm, retards.org.

The studies you sent were on boys with idiopathic short stature or delayed puberty, that’s a medical condition. And they didn’t use HGH alone, they used it with AIs to delay bone plate closure.

HGH is not some magic compound that makes you grow 15 cm out of nowhere. Not even 15 iu of HGH will.

idiopathic short stature is the medical condition of being short, so its clearly not impossible to save 13+ manlets (like you were claiming )

also hgh is never taken without AI on here so your argument falls apart

 

[org3cel.RR]

U know more then 99% of the kids here u good

This isnt even a steroid forum idk why people even talk about roids on here just go to a BB forum with actual scientists, and this thread is the basics
OP is doing a good job teaching greys how to not be a retard
@MyDreamIsToBe183CM @Hernan

 

[jeff1234]

This isnt even a steroid forum idk why people even talk about roids on here just go to a BB forum with actual scientists, and this thread is the basics
OP is doing a good job teaching greys how to not be a retard
@MyDreamIsToBe183CM @Hernan

Wdym this isn’t a roiding forum? Roids are part of looksmaxxing.

Thank, I try to do my best so people here will learn and not spread misinformation.

 

[org3cel.RR]

Wdym this isn’t a roiding forum? Roids are part of looksmaxxing.

I mean sure but there are forums entirely dedicated to it yk its best

Thank, I try to do my best so people here will learn and not spread misinformation.

Yeah u doing a good job I dont have that kind of patience

 

[existingandliving]

Hey dude, just wondering is 250 mg of test be sufficient for gaining bones at 18?

 

[jeff1234]

Hey dude, just wondering is 250 mg of test be sufficient for gaining bones at 18?

No, even at 12 it won’t.

 

[existingandliving]

No, even at 12 it won’t.

Hmm I see, not even widening of the bones is possible?

 

[jeff1234]

Hmm I see, not even widening of the bones is possible?

No.

 

[existingandliving]

No.

That's upsetting, anyways could rate me rq brother? I can pm you if it's okay?