Grey’s first ever cycle💉 Need serious advice

[berlin08]

First high(ish) effort post – need advice on my first cycle


Okay this is gonna be my first high(ish) effort post on this forum but I need advice on my first cycle.


Background
Just to start things off I am 18 and am going to be moving to Italy soon for a year abroad which is in some ways complicating things and in some ways making things easier. Harder in terms of keeping on top of all of the things relating to staying healthy on a cycle, but easier in terms of the independence from my family and the cheaper blood testing.


Current situation
I weigh about 200 lbs at 6’5” and am probably like 20% bf. I have slight gyno but no other high estrogen symptoms. I do believe I have high estrogen though which will soon be confirmed or not by blood work results I am awaiting.


Cycle length & goals
Now I know you all love the idea of staying on test for life but personally after college I would just like to chill on the injecting myself every day so I’m thinking around a 16 week cycle would be good enough for me and i will be doing hcg throughout to ensure my balls still work.


Compounds / dose
First of all I was thinking about just running a cycle of 250 test only, but through my research I’ve seen so much varying advice (500 test, hgh, 150 test, etc..) and I need assistance on picking the best cycle for me. I don’t know if I should run just test or maybe incorporate hgh, and eq just to kinda manage estrogen sides and stuff.


AI
I also am confused on whether I should take an ai or not as literally every other thing I read contradicts the one I read before on that topic. I am gearing towards only taking an ai if necessary as that would work better for me and I would rather have slightly elevated e2 than crash it due to my retardness but if anyone has any ideas regarding this please let me know.


Bloodwork frequency
Now getting into the bloodwork aspect, I am confused on how bloodwork every 2-3 months is frequent enough to stay on top of things that are as important as say high hct or e2 or any liver markers. I’d prefer a little more frequent bloods but if anyone can calm my fears about that I would love to hear it.


Hair / Norwood
Finally to my greatest fear: The Norwood reaper. I have no issues with balding, in fact I would say I have too much hair but I would rather keep it like that than go bald. I see every gearhead has a different favorite anti androgen but I was thinking to start with dut and 2.5 mg Minox (I’m already running this anyway) maybe incorporate ru if things get really bad but if anyone has an argument for fin lmk.


That’s about all I can think of for now but for anyone who dnr just tell me how to not drop dead randomly while on cycle.

 

[berlin08]

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[KG4]

First high(ish) effort post – need advice on my first cycle

500 test no ai

 

[sub5mogger123]

First of all you need your compounds and dosage to decide if you need an ai or not. Then you should know what these compounds do to you so you dose your ai correctly. So i would chill on that. 16 weeks is to short to get any progress from these low dosages. Then your hormones are crashed after the cycle so you would probably lose more muscle than gain. I would get an ai but only use it if your blood tests say you need it. Then your cycle should be atleast 24 weeks. Primobolan works better than eq in terms of estrogen. You should probably blast more after your first blood test. And do your research on better pct

 

[berlin08]

First of all you need your compounds and dosage to decide if you need an ai or not. Then you should know what these compounds do to you so you dose your ai correctly. So i would chill on that. 16 weeks is to short to get any progress from these low dosages. Then your hormones are crashed after the cycle so you would probably lose more muscle than gain. I would get an ai but only use it if your blood tests say you need it. Then your cycle should be atleast 24 weeks. Primobolan works better than eq in terms of estrogen. You should probably blast more after your first blood test. And do your research on better pct

Do you think I’m better off waiting till I’m back from being abroad to hop on a blast and maybe just do a trt dose until then? Idk if a 24 week cycle is possible with what my life will look like after this month

 

[davidlazaryako]

First high(ish) effort post – need advice on my first cycle


Okay this is gonna be my first high(ish) effort post on this forum but I need advice on my first cycle.


Background
Just to start things off I am 18 and am going to be moving to Italy soon for a year abroad which is in some ways complicating things and in some ways making things easier. Harder in terms of keeping on top of all of the things relating to staying healthy on a cycle, but easier in terms of the independence from my family and the cheaper blood testing.


Current situation
I weigh about 200 lbs at 6’5” and am probably like 20% bf. I have slight gyno but no other high estrogen symptoms. I do believe I have high estrogen though which will soon be confirmed or not by blood work results I am awaiting.


Cycle length & goals
Now I know you all love the idea of staying on test for life but personally after college I would just like to chill on the injecting myself every day so I’m thinking around a 16 week cycle would be good enough for me and i will be doing hcg throughout to ensure my balls still work.


Compounds / dose
First of all I was thinking about just running a cycle of 250 test only, but through my research I’ve seen so much varying advice (500 test, hgh, 150 test, etc..) and I need assistance on picking the best cycle for me. I don’t know if I should run just test or maybe incorporate hgh, and eq just to kinda manage estrogen sides and stuff.


AI
I also am confused on whether I should take an ai or not as literally every other thing I read contradicts the one I read before on that topic. I am gearing towards only taking an ai if necessary as that would work better for me and I would rather have slightly elevated e2 than crash it due to my retardness but if anyone has any ideas regarding this please let me know.


Bloodwork frequency
Now getting into the bloodwork aspect, I am confused on how bloodwork every 2-3 months is frequent enough to stay on top of things that are as important as say high hct or e2 or any liver markers. I’d prefer a little more frequent bloods but if anyone can calm my fears about that I would love to hear it.


Hair / Norwood
Finally to my greatest fear: The Norwood reaper. I have no issues with balding, in fact I would say I have too much hair but I would rather keep it like that than go bald. I see every gearhead has a different favorite anti androgen but I was thinking to start with dut and 2.5 mg Minox (I’m already running this anyway) maybe incorporate ru if things get really bad but if anyone has an argument for fin lmk.


That’s about all I can think of for now but for anyone who dnr just tell me how to not drop dead randomly while on cycle.

Hello my bhai!

im gonna give you all the advice i have to offer

Testosterone Enanthate would be what i would recommend for you. its a once a week injection intramuscularly. what dose you should run differs from person to person, but its more about what you can tolerate and feel fine on and can be adjusted if need be. Its ultimately better to start lower (150mg through the once a week injection) and up it if you need to.

I see nothing about a pct treatment in this. Look into clomid or hcg to restore natural endogenous testosterone production, you need something to restart your testosterone so you aren't on trt for life

AI
to determine, you just need to get bloodwork and play around with dosages until you get it into an ideal range. Bloodwork is up to you but id say every 2 months minimum

for hair minoxidil is a bit scary, because if you bald on it you wont know til 6-12 months after due to the fact that minoxidil sheds after that period of time before you can really react. however you will be fine, i doubt anyone on one cycle would have bad hair loss if you arent genetically predisposed to it.

^
if you are using ru or dut just dnr this

if you read to the end you should rep me and my other posts
@Stalker @resting

 

[berlin08]

First of all you need your compounds and dosage to decide if you need an ai or not. Then you should know what these compounds do to you so you dose your ai correctly. So i would chill on that. 16 weeks is to short to get any progress from these low dosages. Then your hormones are crashed after the cycle so you would probably lose more muscle than gain. I would get an ai but only use it if your blood tests say you need it. Then your cycle should be atleast 24 weeks. Primobolan works better than eq in terms of estrogen. You should probably blast more after your first blood test. And do your research on better pct

Hello my bhai!

im gonna give you all the advice i have to offer

Testosterone Enanthate would be what i would recommend for you. its a once a week injection intramuscularly. what dose you should run differs from person to person, but its more about what you can tolerate and feel fine on and can be adjusted if need be. Its ultimately better to start lower (150mg through the once a week injection) and up it if you need to.

I see nothing about a pct treatment in this. Look into clomid or hcg to restore natural endogenous testosterone production, you need something to restart your testosterone so you aren't on trt for life

AI
to determine, you just need to get bloodwork and play around with dosages until you get it into an ideal range. Bloodwork is up to you but id say every 2 months minimum

for hair minoxidil is a bit scary, because if you bald on it you wont know til 6-12 months after due to the fact that minoxidil sheds after that period of time before you can really react. however you will be fine, i doubt anyone on one cycle would have bad hair loss if you arent genetically predisposed to it.

^
if you are using ru or dut just dnr this

if you read to the end you should rep me and my other posts
@Stalker @resting

I already got my test e vial 50k iu of hcg lol but I’ve seen many say pinning daily is optimal to prevent dips in levels?

 

[davidlazaryako]

I already got my test e vial 50k iu of hcg lol but I’ve seen many say pinning daily is optimal to prevent dips in levels?

to pin everyday you cant do this with test e, you need a different one like test p

Yes, it does prevent dips in levels. its better but for beginners it might not be the right option to pin it everyday. but if you are up to it then yes it would be good.

@resting

 

[resting]

Yes, it does prevent dips in levels. its better but for beginners it might not be the right option to pin it everyday. but if you are up to it then yes it would be good.

@resting

test p is every couple of days not everyday you idiot

 

[ericthel]

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