Growth Hormone is COPE

[Fartmaxxing]

The average teenager already produces 6-9ui daily roughly JFL at these teenage niggas thinking 4-6ui of HGH will ascend them, you are suppressing your naturally high GH secretion for less total GH, Exogenous GH can only put you at the higher end of the reference range if you take 15-20UI (accounting for the 70% bioavailability)

not to mention that exogenous HGH raises more systemic IGF-1 instead of local which specifically accounts for 80% of the bone increase, vs pulsatile GH that favours local IGF-1.

CJC-DAC + Ipamorelin mogs unironically for "heightmaxxing"

again ask yourself if a elevated baseline of HGH was favourable for growth, why through millions of years of evolution would the natural biological secretion of GH that everyone has be pulsatile.

a few sources I use for my reasoning https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8440916/ https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/92/7/2480/2598194 https://pedsendo.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/GH-clinical-practice-guidelines-2016.pdf

 

[Nutsack2000]

Dnr ldar

 

[jcen132]

Teenagers naturally secrete around:

• 1–2 mg GH/day total
• 1 mg GH ≈ 3 IU
• But only ~30% is “effective” because natural GH spikes and disappears quickly.

 

[Starborn]

Teenagers naturally secrete around:

• 1–2 mg GH/day total
• 1 mg GH ≈ 3 IU
• But only ~30% is “effective” because natural GH spikes and disappears quickly.

ripped straight off gpt but this is true.
no where near 6-9

 

[Bryce]

Shit thread kys

 

[Starborn]

CJC-DAC + Ipamorelin mogs unironically for "heightmaxxing"

Didn't fucking see this holy shit nigga

 

[Somatropin]

The average teenager already produces 6-9ui daily roughly JFL at these teenage niggas thinking 4-6ui of HGH will ascend them, you are suppressing your naturally high GH secretion for less total GH, Exogenous GH can only put you at the higher end of the reference range if you take 15-20UI (accounting for the 70% bioavailability)

not to mention that exogenous HGH raises more systemic IGF-1 instead of local which specifically accounts for 80% of the bone increase, vs pulsatile GH that favours local IGF-1.

CJC-DAC + Ipamorelin mogs unironically for "heightmaxxing"

again ask yourself if a elevated baseline of HGH was favourable for growth, why through millions of years of evolution would the natural biological secretion of GH that everyone has be pulsatile.

a few sources I use for my reasoning https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8440916/ https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/92/7/2480/2598194 https://pedsendo.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/GH-clinical-practice-guidelines-2016.pdf

this guy came straight from science bio on tt

 

[Fartmaxxing]

Teenagers naturally secrete around:

• 1–2 mg GH/day total
• 1 mg GH ≈ 3 IU
• But only ~30% is “effective” because natural GH spikes and disappears quickly.

ripped straight off gpt but this is true.
no where near 6-9

it’s about matching the integrated igf1. the amount im talking about the amount of exogenous HGH you need to take to produce the equivalent of usable IGF-1 for growth compared to a natural teenager of average weight

 

[Fartmaxxing]

Didn't fucking see this holy shit nigga

nigga, I blasted GH for months saw no growth that wasn't facial, switched to CJC-DAC an IPAM grew a 2 inches, I literally benefited from my own logic, name one nigga who grew on HGH that wasn't 15

 

[Fartmaxxing]

this guy came straight from science bio on tt

well yeah im glad he's pushing it

 

[Starborn]

nigga, I blasted GH for months saw no growth that wasn't facial, switched to CJC-DAC an IPAM grew a 2 inches, I literally benefited from my own logic, name one nigga who grew on HGH that wasn't 15

you grew 2 inches because you sped up your bonegrowth it didn't give you 2 inches your body was gonna give you those 2 inches anyway you just got them early .

 

[Somatropin]

nigga, I blasted GH for months saw no growth that wasn't facial, switched to CJC-DAC an IPAM grew a 2 inches, I literally benefited from my own logic, name one nigga who grew on HGH that wasn't 15

androgenic. If you still grew bonemass that's a good sign

 

[Somatropin]

well yeah im glad he's pushing it

watch biomaxxer's response

 

[Fartmaxxing]

you grew 2 inches because you sped up your bonegrowth it didn't give you 2 inches your body was gonna give you those 2 inches anyway you just got them early .

6 months of HGH no growth nigga, I was suppressing my natty GH, once I corrected and optimized it I grew

 

[Starborn]

6 months of HGH no growth nigga, I was suppressing my natty GH, once I corrected and optimized it I grew

can guarantee those 2 inches weren't from cjc ipa dac I think you just grew via puberty

 

[Starborn]

6 months of HGH no growth nigga, I was suppressing my natty GH, once I corrected and optimized it I grew

what tanner stage were you in during this
also your natty gh was likely around 4-5IU

 

[Fartmaxxing]

watch biomaxxer's response

read science bio response in the comments

 

[Fartmaxxing]

can guarantee those 2 inches weren't from cjc ipa dac I think you just grew via puberty

nigga I was 17 what puberty, stunted growth from GH, I had limited LOCAL igf-1 we don't care about systemic GH for height growth it does very little. I prioritized optimizing my local igf-1 which cannot be stimulated effectively with Exogenous GH, I wish it could. Also the clarify HGH at that dose is cope (4-6)

 

[Fartmaxxing]

what tanner stage were you in during this
also your natty gh was likely around 4-5IU

I didn't check tanner stage, I had lack of sleep an high cortisol during development tho, still ended up 6'3 from CJC-DAC + IPAM after not growing for a year

 

[Starborn]

I didn't check tanner stage, I had lack of sleep an high cortisol during development tho, still ended up 6'3 from CJC-DAC + IPAM after not growing for a year

how tall were your parents. be completly honest we aint larp round here son.

 

[Fartmaxxing]

how tall were your parents. be completly honest we aint larp round here son.

mom was 5'5 and dad was 6'0, lowk pret standard for ppl to exceed there parents height

 

[Starborn]

mom was 5'5 and dad was 6'0

Ok so with 5,5 mom and 6,0 dad 6,4 is in the genetic range meaning you could have gotten it natrual like a lot of people
Do you have any tall relatives?

 

[Fartmaxxing]

Ok so with 5,5 mom and 6,0 dad 6,4 is in the genetic range meaning you could have gotten it natrual like a lot of people
Do you have any tall relatives?

not really, on my moms side I remember as distant relative of mine being 6'3 ish, but my dad is the tallest on his side

 

[maxx92765]

mfs still on with the cjc bullshit

 

[Fartmaxxing]

mfs still on with the cjc bullshit

nigga I used HGH for a long time

 

[maxx92765]

pooptropin

 

[Starborn]

not really, on my moms side I remember as distant relative of mine being 6'3 ish, but my dad is the tallest on his side

Yea honestly bro that height gain wasn't from cjc ipa. its not common but alot of people had this happen to them naturally I can think of like 4 i know irl that had this happen
HGH used to treat kids without defiencys even at high doses did not even gain half an inch your bones are set to a genetic potential not how much hgh there is More hgh doesnt mean more height it just means it speeds up growth of the bone giving the illusion of height gain
this is what happend to my dad and what will happen to me according to my endocrineoligst
my dad was short like 5,8 5,9 and then he grew to 6,1 when he was in college I think you just had growth left and hgh/cjc ipa sped up the process.

 

[Fartmaxxing]

Yea honestly bro that height gain wasn't from cjc ipa. its not common but alot of people had this happen to them naturally I can think of like 4 i know irl that had this happen
HGH used to treat kids without defiencys even at high doses did not even gain half an inch your bones are set to a genetic potential not how much hgh there is More hgh doesnt mean more height it just means it speeds up growth of the bone giving the illusion of height gain
this is what happend to my dad and what will happen to me according to my endocrineoligst
my dad was short like 5,8 5,9 and then he grew to 6,1 when he was in college I think you just had growth left and hgh/cjc ipa sped up the process.

Either way I think pharmacology during pubertal stages can have an effect, If you compare to my brother (19) I am significantly wider and taller then him

 

[smaxx01]

So you need to do more research before posting dumb shit like this
A human body produces hgh in short spurts a teenager produces about 0.5-1.2iu equivalent at a time which is only for a very short period of time not enough time to fully be converted into igf1 which is what actually matters and grows muscle and bones, it is also a steady level if you pin it so even like 4iu would be more beneficial due to conversion to igf1

 

[Starborn]

Either way I think pharmacology during pubertal stages can have an effect, If you compare to my brother (19) I am significantly wider and taller then him

comparing your brother doesnt mean much he could have inherited your mothers height genes.
I had an old friend who is 6,1 now and his older brother is 5,9
you just got your dads genes.

 

[Fartmaxxing]

So you need to do more research before posting dumb shit like this
A human body produces hgh in short spurts a teenager produces about 0.5-1.2iu equivalent at a time which is only for a very short period of time not enough time to fully be converted into igf1 which is what actually matters and grows muscle and bones, it is also a steady level if you pin it so even like 4iu would be more beneficial due to conversion to igf1

Im not saying HGH is useless im saying the low doses every1 recommends would work for an adult with lower GH not a teenager with significantly elevated GH

 

[Starborn]

more GH doesnt mean extra height It just tells your bones to speed up the growth process of your genetic potential giving the illusion of gained height when in reality you were gonna gain those 2 inches anyway

 

[Fartmaxxing]

comparing your brother doesnt mean much he could have inherited your mothers height genes.
I had an old friend who is 6,1 now and his older brother is 5,9
you just got your dads genes.

regardless of that, when I started using GH / Androgens I randomly developed further, before we were very similar on a physical level.

 

[Starborn]

regardless of that, when I started using GH / Androgens I randomly developed further, before we were very similar on a physical level.

more GH doesnt mean extra height It just tells your bones to speed up the growth process of your genetic potential giving the illusion of gained height when in reality you were gonna gain those 2 inches anyway

 

[emogymmaxx]

yeah totally bro!

 

[Fartmaxxing]

more GH doesnt mean extra height It just tells your bones to speed up the growth process of your genetic potential giving the illusion of gained height when in reality you were gonna gain those 2 inches anyway

what is your opinion on facial growth through it? other than the mandible IGF-1 doesn't effect the facial bones to the same method of action

 

[ImGoatedBud]

I was prescribed hgh from around 14-15 years of age specifically for height reasons and injecting into my thighs daily. Was projected to be 5’6-5’8 as an adult. I’m now 20 years old and am 5’10. Idk how much I was taking but I know it was a relatively small amount compared to someone taking it for bodybuilding reasons for example. Definitely helps growth if puberty isn’t over and I didn’t even take that much.

 

[Starborn]

what is your opinion on facial growth through it? other than the mandible IGF-1 doesn't effect the facial bones to the same degree

Idk where you got doing these things will grow your face but

Most important facial bones sare finished growing at around 5 years old.
Although doing testosterone can make you look more mature due to the masseter expanding giving you a wider look and changing your bones for a mature look

 

[smaxx01]

Im not saying HGH is useless im saying the low doses every1 recommends would work for an adult with lower GH not a teenager with significantly elevated GH

Yeah no teen should be running under 4iu but over that is only benefits obviously like 12iu is gonna be better than 4 but still your title has been debunked change it to “HGH is not cope over 4iu”

 

[Starborn]

I was prescribed hgh from around 14-15 years of age specifically for height reasons and injecting into my thighs daily. Was projected to be 5’6-5’8 as an adult. I’m now 20 years old and am 5’10. Idk how much I was taking but I know it was a relatively small amount compared to someone taking it for bodybuilding reasons for example. Definitely helps growth if puberty isn’t over and I didn’t even take that much.

Key word Prescribed. HGH works for people with defiencys they see major growth because they cant make enough of gh so when they get put on GH replacement they grow like they were naturally supposed to

 

[Starborn]

Yeah no teen should be running under 4iu but over that is only benefits obviously like 12iu is gonna be better than 4 but still your title has been debunked change it to “HGH is not cope over 4iu”

for speeding up growth not gaining extra inches

 

[ImGoatedBud]

Key word Prescribed. HGH works for people with defiencys they see major growth because they cant make enough of gh so when they get put on GH replacement they grow like they were naturally supposed to

Yes this is true good point I did have a deficiency and the hgh just helped fill out my genetic blueprint.

 

[Jiaxi]

do you enjoy ruining my day?

 

[Fartmaxxing]

Yes this is true good point I did have a deficiency and the hgh just helped fill out my genetic blueprint.

ok

 

[Fartmaxxing]

do you enjoy ruining my day?

just buy more GH

 

[dawooddX]

The average teenager already produces 6-9ui daily roughly JFL at these teenage niggas thinking 4-6ui of HGH will ascend them, you are suppressing your naturally high GH secretion for less total GH, Exogenous GH can only put you at the higher end of the reference range if you take 15-20UI (accounting for the 70% bioavailability)

not to mention that exogenous HGH raises more systemic IGF-1 instead of local which specifically accounts for 80% of the bone increase, vs pulsatile GH that favours local IGF-1.

CJC-DAC + Ipamorelin mogs unironically for "heightmaxxing"

again ask yourself if a elevated baseline of HGH was favourable for growth, why through millions of years of evolution would the natural biological secretion of GH that everyone has be pulsatile.

a few sources I use for my reasoning https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8440916/ https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/92/7/2480/2598194 https://pedsendo.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/GH-clinical-practice-guidelines-2016.pdf

idk ur prob right on ur reasoning, but at the end of the day unless u were a starved kid in sudan. js by living nomrally and decently(not even optimal) ur gonna reach close to ur height limit potential

my friend did hgh for like 4 months and stopped like 3 months ago and he still tells me abt growing despite not even on hgh
ur gonna reach it eitherway