GROWTH HORMONE OR HOW TO CLOSE GROWTH ZONES

[JOTAROSON]

Growth hormone or a guide on how you can become a dwarf forever

A great many people still believe that by taking , they can outsmart their genes and easily grow taller than their genetic limit
In reality, things are far more disheartening.

HOW GH WORKS

The growth hormone itself does almost nothing directly.
After a GH injection, the liver starts to produce IGF-1 — and it is this hormone that triggers the growth of cartilage tissue, the division of chondrocytes and the lengthening of long bones.


THE FIRST FEW MOUTHS

With GH, there’s often a real spurt of growth at the start.
But the problem is that this also accelerates bone age.
So, you seem to be growing faster, but at the same time you’re bringing forward the moment when growth simply stops.
The body uses up the resources of the growth plates more quickly.
The result: euphoria in the first few months, then the growth plates close sooner than expected.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38053091/⁠�

THE MAIN ISSUE

So why is there no point in taking growth hormone injections if you’re over >10 and don’t have a deficiency? It’s simple: in layman’s terms, growth hormone speeds up your puberty. The growth plates mature faster and eventually close. In other words, to put it bluntly, you won’t grow taller than your genetic maximum; in fact, if you don’t have a deficiency, you’ll end up even shorter than you were, because you’re essentially just speeding up your puberty. If your genetics mean you’re going to be short, then I’m afraid growth hormone won’t help you.

CONCLUSION

The bottom line on growth hormone:
This drug is good for body recomposition or for building muscle mass. But it is terrible for increasing height, because it accelerates puberty and closes the growth plates, thereby shortening your genetic height.


So what should you inject instead?

You should inject drugs that have no effect on puberty, but instead affect genes, osteoblasts and osteoclasts

 

[JOTAROSON]

@manuel355335 @flowiza

 

[vi(89(]

do andros work as alternatives to gh

 

[JOTAROSON]

Действуют ли андрогены как альтернатива гормону роста?

If your goal is to increase your height beyond the genetic limit, then neither GC nor androgens will help.

 

[JOTAROSON]

Если ваша цель — увеличить рост сверх генетических ограничений, то ни глюкокортикостероиды, ни андрогены вам не помогут.

GH*

 

[ifidonthit6irope]

Maybe just use an aromatase inhibitor then?

 

[JOTAROSON]

Может, тогда просто использовать ингибитор ароматазы?

Don't expect a lot of growth, it will help you by 1-2 cm In the best case, even estrogen is very important for bones.

 

[ifidonthit6irope]

Don't expect a lot of growth, it will help you by 1-2 cm In the best case, even estrogen is very important for bones.

Yea, I know, and I will take an extra 1-2 cm lol. Excess estrogen can also speed up bone age lol and it's kind of a common fact that estrogen is important for building bones.

 

[L88]

Well made

 

[JOTAROSON]

Качественное исполнение

Bro, you are my stalker, you are very cool

 

[L88]

Bro, you are my stalker, you are very cool

No

 

[JOTAROSON]

Нет:огр:

Yes

 

[L88]

Yes

No no

 

[tension]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38053091/⁠�

yeah so this source doesn't support your argument AT ALL

poop thread

 

[JOTAROSON]

Да, этот источник АБСОЛЮТНО не подтверждает ваш аргумент.

тема про какашки

:АЛООО:

 

[JOTAROSON]

Да, этот источник АБСОЛЮТНО не подтверждает ваш аргумент.

тема про какашки

Short-acting growth hormone supplementation for bone age and growth rate in children with idiopathic short stature: a meta-analysis - PubMed

Short-acting GH supplementation can significantly improve the growth rate of children with idiopathic short stature, but has little effect on bone age.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

If other studies are not enough for you, then here you go

 

[tension]

:АЛООО:

yeah they already had advanced bone age idiot

hgh didn't do that

 

[tension]

Short-acting growth hormone supplementation for bone age and growth rate in children with idiopathic short stature: a meta-analysis - PubMed

Short-acting GH supplementation can significantly improve the growth rate of children with idiopathic short stature, but has little effect on bone age.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

If other studies are not enough for you, then here you go

"Results: Nine studies were included in the study, and 491 patients with idiopathic short stature were included in the study. The results of the meta-analysis showed that there was no significant difference in bone age but a significant difference in growth rate when compared with the control group.

Conclusion: Short-acting GH supplementation can significantly improve the growth rate of children with idiopathic short stature, but has little effect on bone age."

You're a retard

It literally says that it improved growth and didn't have an effect on bone age

 

[JOTAROSON]

Да, у них уже был продвинутый костный возраст, идиот.

гормон роста этого не делал.

Your IQ seems too low. I didn't say a word about exogenous growth hormone. This study shows that GH accelerates closure IQLET

 

[JOTAROSON]

Результаты: В исследование было включено девять работ, в которых приняли участие 491 пациент с идиопатической низкорослостью. Результаты метаанализа показали, что существенной разницы в костном возрасте не было, но наблюдалась существенная разница в темпах роста по сравнению с контрольной группой.

Вывод: Применение гормона роста короткого действия может значительно улучшить темпы роста детей с идиопатической низкорослостью, но оказывает незначительное влияние на костный возраст.

Ты дебил

Там буквально написано, что это улучшило рост и не повлияло на костный возраст.

Their study was so short, it showed that growth hormone accelerates closure, how stupid are you, are you definitely reading them or sending a gpt chat

 

[tension]

I didn't say a word about exogenous growth hormone.

After a GH injection

 

[JOTAROSON]

Apparently my arguments about IQ were correct, this study does not pertain to injections, but to the section on how growth hormone closes growth zones.

 

[tension]

Their study was so short, it showed that growth hormone accelerates closure, how stupid are you, are you definitely reading them or sending a gpt chat

You gotta be trolling

It says that it improved growth rate, but didn't impact bone age (which is perfect)

 

[JOTAROSON]

Ты, должно быть, троллишь.

Там говорится, что это улучшило темпы роста, но не повлияло на костный возраст (что идеально).

:АЛООО: Growth hormone accelerates the closure of growth zones, what are you arguing with, bro?

 

[JOTAROSON]

Ты, должно быть, троллишь.

Там говорится, что это улучшило темпы роста, но не повлияло на костный возраст (что идеально).

The study is attached to the section that talks about what will happen in the first few months when increasing GH; nothing is said in this section about injections.

 

[tension]

this thread is 100% correct

HGH IS COPE

DO NOT BUY IT (especially from my source which I definitely do NOT use)

 

[JOTAROSON]

Эта тема абсолютно верна.

Гормон роста — это способ справиться.

НЕ ПОКУПАЙТЕ ЭТО (особенно у моего поставщика, услугами которого я точно НЕ пользуюсь).

What did you mean by the last line?

 

[flowiza]

exactly bro i wanna reach my adult height sooner lmfao thats the whole point.Plus my e2 is low(5 pg/ml,3 if im lean) i have late puberty,i had testicular problems till i was 12-13 which i got surgery to fix and so i had less testosterone and e2 my whole life so in this case scenario i would actually benefit from hgh and i could achieve more adult height but only in my case scenario

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

Copy random shit from jewishsoypopscience.com/chatgpt
Paste on .org
Add random emojis inbetween

AAAND post, hope i get perceived as intelligent and receive a lot of meaningless non existent indian forum reactions

 

[JOTAROSON]

Скопировал всякую ерунду с сайта jewishsoypopscience.com/chatgpt
Вставить на .org
Добавьте случайные эмодзи между строк.

И ещё один пост, надеюсь, меня сочтут умным и я получу много бессмысленных, несуществующих реакций на индийских форумах.:вынужденнаяулыбка::вынужденнаяулыбка:

Bro just shut up, I already have about 10 posts without using the gpt chat, if anyone knows more than you stop talking nonsense

 

[tomahawk]

Impact of growth hormone therapy on adult height of children with idiopathic short stature: systematic review - PubMed

Growth hormone therapy in children with idiopathic short stature seems to be effective in partially reducing the deficit in height as adults, although the magnitude of effectiveness is on average less than that achieved in other conditions for which growth hormone is licensed. The individual...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Final height of short normal children treated with growth hormone - PubMed

Long-term therapy in this group of children appears safe but the small increment in final height, approximately 2.8 cm in boys and 2.5 cm in girls, does not justify the widespread use of r-hGH for short normal children.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Comparison of final heights of growth hormone-treated vs. untreated children with idiopathic growth failure - PubMed

We measured adult heights (Ht) of 94 healthy GH-sufficient children (peak GH > 10 ng/mL, polyclonal RIA) whose Ht at presentation were more than 2 SD below the mean for chronological age, with normal weight-to-Ht ratios, normal body proportions, and pathologic growth velocity for chronological ag …

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Adult height in children with idiopathic short stature treated with growth hormone - PubMed

Idiopathic short stature (ISS) includes a heterogeneous group of patients with common characteristics to those of familial short stature and constitutional delay. Some authors state that these children can often respond to GH treatment, thus increasing their adult height. The aims of this study...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Final height gain by GH therapy in children with idiopathic short stature is dose dependent - PubMed

Recombinant human GH therapy to children with idiopathic short stature (ISS) increases growth velocity, but its effect on final height (FH) is still uncertain. The aim of this study was to investigate the effect of recombinant human GH on FH of patients with ISS who were treated according to two...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[JOTAROSON]

Impact of growth hormone therapy on adult height of children with idiopathic short stature: systematic review - PubMed

Growth hormone therapy in children with idiopathic short stature seems to be effective in partially reducing the deficit in height as adults, although the magnitude of effectiveness is on average less than that achieved in other conditions for which growth hormone is licensed. The individual...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Final height of short normal children treated with growth hormone - PubMed

Long-term therapy in this group of children appears safe but the small increment in final height, approximately 2.8 cm in boys and 2.5 cm in girls, does not justify the widespread use of r-hGH for short normal children.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Comparison of final heights of growth hormone-treated vs. untreated children with idiopathic growth failure - PubMed

We measured adult heights (Ht) of 94 healthy GH-sufficient children (peak GH > 10 ng/mL, polyclonal RIA) whose Ht at presentation were more than 2 SD below the mean for chronological age, with normal weight-to-Ht ratios, normal body proportions, and pathologic growth velocity for chronological ag …

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Adult height in children with idiopathic short stature treated with growth hormone - PubMed

Idiopathic short stature (ISS) includes a heterogeneous group of patients with common characteristics to those of familial short stature and constitutional delay. Some authors state that these children can often respond to GH treatment, thus increasing their adult height. The aims of this study...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Final height gain by GH therapy in children with idiopathic short stature is dose dependent - PubMed

Recombinant human GH therapy to children with idiopathic short stature (ISS) increases growth velocity, but its effect on final height (FH) is still uncertain. The aim of this study was to investigate the effect of recombinant human GH on FH of patients with ISS who were treated according to two...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Almost all studies are for people with deficiency

 

[knowmonpnue]

Growth hormone or a guide on how you can become a dwarf forever

A great many people still believe that by taking , they can outsmart their genes and easily grow taller than their genetic limit
In reality, things are far more disheartening.

HOW GH WORKS

The growth hormone itself does almost nothing directly.
After a GH injection, the liver starts to produce IGF-1 — and it is this hormone that triggers the growth of cartilage tissue, the division of chondrocytes and the lengthening of long bones.


THE FIRST FEW MOUTHS

With GH, there’s often a real spurt of growth at the start.
But the problem is that this also accelerates bone age.
So, you seem to be growing faster, but at the same time you’re bringing forward the moment when growth simply stops.
The body uses up the resources of the growth plates more quickly.
The result: euphoria in the first few months, then the growth plates close sooner than expected.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38053091/⁠�

THE MAIN ISSUE

So why is there no point in taking growth hormone injections if you’re over >10 and don’t have a deficiency? It’s simple: in layman’s terms, growth hormone speeds up your puberty. The growth plates mature faster and eventually close. In other words, to put it bluntly, you won’t grow taller than your genetic maximum; in fact, if you don’t have a deficiency, you’ll end up even shorter than you were, because you’re essentially just speeding up your puberty. If your genetics mean you’re going to be short, then I’m afraid growth hormone won’t help you.

CONCLUSION

The bottom line on growth hormone:
This drug is good for body recomposition or for building muscle mass. But it is terrible for increasing height, because it accelerates puberty and closes the growth plates, thereby shortening your genetic height.


So what should you inject instead?

You should inject drugs that have no effect on puberty, but instead affect genes, osteoblasts and osteoclasts

Im 17 and the doctor told me im in the late stage puperty and estimated me to 172-175 and im still growing slightly. So if taking gh is gonna make my bones age quicker and maybe end up shorter what should i take to get the max out of my genetics?

 

[JOTAROSON]

Im 17 and the doctor told me im in the late stage puperty and estimated me to 172-175 and im still growing slightly. So if taking gh is gonna make my bones age quicker and maybe end up shorter what should i take to get the max out of my genetics?

We need medications that target osteoblasts, such as teriparatide and others. I can tag you in this post.