GROWTH WITH CLOSED PLATE (TORTION) (GTFIH) (PART 1)

What specific thing did he do to actually grow? He showed measurements that says he did grow but not from vibration as that is something new that he is testing not what actually gave him the height, which makes me wonder if he already has a way of increasing height why is he testing a new method
His goal is to find every way to grow not just 1, its just a hobby for him, he doesnt make alot of money from it
 
His goal is to find every way to grow not just 1, its just a hobby for him, he doesnt make alot of money from it
what did he use to grow his 1-2 inches so far?
 
what did he use to grow his 1-2 inches so far?
he does a shit ton of stuff so i couldnt tell u specifically what 1 thing helped
 
Part 1/25

Hello,

I am creating this post to address a claim made on this forum regarding a person named Tyler, who is purportedly achieving height growth through natural methods at 30 years old. Please note that English is my third language, and I am utilizing AI for formatting, translation, and grammar checks throughout this discussion.

His Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heightquest/

Commencing on
3/9/24, I aim to complete all parts within a month (if I choose to continue).

Explanation: My objective is not to debunk Tyler but to evaluate whether his methods are legitimate or cope. Tyler asserts that he has grown 1.5 inches in 13 years using natural methods. While the theoretical basis may have some validity, the practicality of the method is questionable. Even if Tyler's claims are correct, the efficacy of the method remains uncertain. However, during my research, I will attempt to identify a method within his approach that might be effective, although I won't personally test it due to being high inhib. The nigga who dick rides tyler is @Snake.0359 , who larps high IQ. Also don't say water pls this is just part 1.


I will start by discussing each of Tyler's Instagram posts and addressing approximately 200 posts, making this potentially the longest post on the forum (when i merge all parts so just imagine this post x25). My focus will be on 80 specific posts and their corresponding highlights which there are around 19 of, each containing a minimum of 20 posts.

Highlights: Growing Limbs

Part 1 - Spiral Forces

Exercises designed to exert spiral forces to mimic the growth seen in arm length by swimmers and tennis players.

Post 1-7:

His Information:


- Medicine ball split-legged wood chop
- Skipping with dumbbells
- Shadow boxing with weights
- Backflips on a trampoline
- Medicine ball Russian twist
- Dumbbell lunge

My Information:
For Adults: No, bones are complex organs composed of osseous tissue, primarily collagen fibers embedded in a matrix of calcium phosphate crystals. At the microscopic level, bones are organized into osteons, facilitating nutrient exchange. Bone growth occurs through intramembranous and endochondral ossification, primarily at growth plates. Longitudinal bone growth is limited after skeletal maturity due to epiphyseal fusion. Exercises targeting muscle strength do not significantly influence bone length in adults.

For Kids: Physical activities and exercises during childhood and adolescence positively impact bone growth and development. These activities stimulate the growth plates (epiphyseal plates) at the ends of long bones, composed of proliferating cartilage cells that eventually ossify into bone tissue, contributing to longitudinal bone growth. Weight-bearing or resistance activities induce mechanical stress on bones, promoting bone density and strength. Repetitive movements in activities like swimming and tennis exert specific mechanical forces on bones, potentially influencing their growth patterns. During this growth phase, increased cellular activity and metabolic rates facilitate the absorption of essential nutrients like calcium and vitamin D, crucial for bone mineralization and growth. Genetics play a significant role, but engaging in regular physical activity and maintaining a balanced diet rich in essential nutrients can optimize bone health and maximize growth potential during these developmental stages.

Post 8:

His Information: How to add more spiral/torsional force to an exercise


- Do exercises that take place in more than one plane of movement (Sagittal, frontal, and transverse).
- Think of ways to add more planes of movement to an exercise.
- Exercises with rotation (think hammer curl, dumbbell fly, and rear delt fly with rotation).
- Think of ways to add more rotation.
- Pronation and supination of feet and hands.
- Fast reps (F=ma).
- Significant amount of weight.

Most people do complex movements with only a light amount of weight. You want a balance between speed and weight.

My Information:
The post accurately advises on increasing spiral/torsional force during exercises through biomechanical principles and Newton's second law. Incorporating multi-planar movements introduces rotational components, demanding additional force to overcome inertia and generate torque. Exercises with rotation, like hammer curls or dumbbell flys with rotation, engage muscles in a spiraling motion, amplifying torque around joints. Pronation and supination of the feet and hands add complexity, enhancing torsional force by recruiting muscles in multiple dimensions. Fast repetitions, adhering to Newton's second law (F=ma), boost force production and torsional force during exercises. Using substantial weight ensures optimal muscle engagement and force production, aligning with biomechanics and Newtonian physics. Overall, the recommendations are scientifically accurate for maximizing spiral/torsional force.

Post 9:

His Post:

More ways to add spiral forces to exercise:

- Asymmetrical and unilateral movements (e.g., one-legged or one-armed exercises, although these can be challenging).
- Adding spiral forces is harder to legs than to arms, explaining the increased anecdotal and scientifically published data on increased arm length as a result of exercise.
- Ideally, every exercise with arms should also have a spiral component for legs, as hands can grip onto things, placing a more direct load on the arms. For example, perform one-legged, one-armed hammer curls.
- There is the possibility of doing one-legged, feet pronated/supinated leg press, but it may not be as dynamic as other movements.

My Information:
Yes, incorporating asymmetrical and unilateral movements, such as one-legged or one-armed exercises, adds spiral forces to exercises by introducing rotational components that challenge muscles to stabilize and generate torque. Spiral forces are more challenging to the legs than the arms due to the legs' larger muscle groups and weight-bearing function, leading to increased anecdotal and scientifically published data regarding arm lengthening from exercise. Ideally, every arm exercise should include a spiral component for the legs as well, as hands are capable of gripping onto objects, imposing a more direct load on the arms. For example, performing hammer curls in a one-legged, one-armed manner enhances spiral forces by engaging muscles in both the upper and lower body simultaneously. While exercises like one-legged, feet pronated/supinated leg presses offer potential, they may not be as dynamic as other movements in generating spiral forces due to limitations in range of motion and muscle engagement. Overall, incorporating asymmetrical and unilateral movements is a valid approach to maximize spiral forces during exercise.


(Note: Skipping a significant portion of exercise details for brevity, focusing on the scientific aspects.)

His Information:
He claims that torsional exercises can lengthen bones.

My Information:
No, torsional exercises primarily stimulate bone growth and density through a process called mechanotransduction, where mechanical forces are translated into biochemical signals that trigger bone remodeling. However, bone elongation primarily occurs at the growth plates, which are specialized cartilage areas at the ends of long bones responsible for longitudinal bone growth during childhood and adolescence. Once growth plates close, usually by late adolescence or early adulthood, longitudinal bone growth stops.

Torsional exercises predominantly affect bone density and strength by stimulating osteoblast activity and bone remodeling in response to mechanical stress, but they do not directly influence the growth plates or the longitudinal growth of bones. Therefore, while torsional exercises are beneficial for bone health, they do not lead to bone elongation beyond the natural growth process dictated by genetics and growth plate closure.

Evidence Analysis: YouTube Video Claiming 1/8th Inch Growth


Link to the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=326&v=Xv_ygWV3dDU&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.naturalheightgrowth.com%2F


Tyler in the video claims that the method grew him by 1/8th inch. Personally, I believe this is cope, and here's why:

While exercises such as gripping a hammer using a pinch grip and using a massage gun on the hands can enhance muscle activation and promote tissue recovery, attributing a 1/8th-inch increase in wingspan solely to these activities within a month is scientifically improbable. While these exercises may improve hand strength and muscle tone, direct bone elongation from such activities is unlikely.

Bonesmashing, can stimulate bone growth. However, the exercises described lack the specificity and intensity required for such targeted effects. Therefore, while there may be some physiological changes, attributing a noticeable increase in wingspan solely to these exercises remains scientifically improbable. In a sense he's claiming that this is a no risk version of bonesmashing.


Important Note:

Before dismissing skepticism regarding the 1/8-inch growth claim, it's crucial to consider the reliability of the measurement. Personally, I am hesitant to fully trust the accuracy of the measurement process, as individual measurement errors are not uncommon.

For those questioning the legitimacy of doubt, it's important to clarify that the skepticism does not stem from the belief that the method is merely another form of bone smashing. The individual claims to be engaging in a milder version that, theoretically, should have zero effect. The key distinction lies in the fact that using a massage gun is not equivalent to smashing with a hammer – even if done under constant intensity.

This skepticism isn't an outright rejection of the potential benefits of certain exercises. Instead, it emphasizes the importance of critically evaluating the scientific feasibility of attributing a significant increase in wingspan solely to these specific activities.

Next he uses an ancient archer with longer bones on one hand than the other, that can easily be explained with 1 either a genetic deformation or 2 the archer trained as a kid which as I already explained at the start you can grow your bones as a kid with exercises

Next he used this:

(I used ai to put this graph into text the image he posted sucks and I can't find the original post)
| Variables | N | Mean | SD | Minimum | Maximum |
|--------------|-----|--------|-------|---------|---------|
| Age | 10 | 21.56 | 3.45 | 17.60 | 28.00 |
| Height (cm) | 10 | 176.12 | 3.80 | 169.00 | 183.00 |
| Weight (kg) | 10 | 74.16 | 6.95 | 66.40 | 86.90 |
| BMI (kg/m2) | 10 | 23.82 | 2.08 | 21.19 | 27.74 |
| SMM (kg) | 10 | 38.62 | 3.20 | 35.34 | 44.84 |
| BFM (kg) | 10 | 6.56 | 2.31 | 2.70 | 9.60 |
| BFMP (%) | 10 | 8.72 | 2.54 | 3.98 | 12.56 |


| Group | Right Side | Mean SD | Left Side | Mean SD | 95% CI Lower | 95% CI Upper | df | t | P |
|--------------|------------|---------|-----------|----------|--------------|--------------|-----|------|------|
| ALM (kg) | 4.17 | 0.46 | 4.14 | 0.48 | -0.02 | 0.08 | 9 | 1.22 | 0.25 |
| LLM (kg) | 10.06 | 0.85 | 9.96 | 0.74 | -0.02 | 0.22 | 9 | 1.86 | 0.10 |
| LSH (cm) | 141.87 | 3.53 | 142.12 | 3.87 | -1.06 | 0.56 | 9 | -0.70| 0.50 |
| ASG (cm) | 45.14 | 3.33 | 45.25 | 1.64 | -0.70 | 0.50 | 9 | -1.79| 1.57 |
| SAL (cm) | 57.46 | 3.08 | 57.04 | 3.27 | -0.57 | 1.41 | 9 | 0.96 | 0.36 |
| UAG (cm) | 33.35 | 2.31 | 32.87 | 2.26 | -0.33 | 1.29 | 9 | 1.33 | 0.22 |
| EG (cm) | 28.28 | 1.53 | 27.76 | 1.83 | -0.89 | 1.93 | 9 | 0.83 | 0.43 |
| FG (cm) | 28.58 | 1.19 | 28.12 | 1.15 | 0.06 | 0.86 | 9 | 2.60 | 0.03 |
| WG (cm) | 17.49 | 0.81 | 17.09 | 0.72 | -0.04 | 0.84 | 9 | 2.04 | 0.07 |
| SWH (cm) | 101.67 | 3.90 | 101.64 | 3.87 | -0.02 | 0.08 | 9 | 1.41 | 0.19 |
| OLL (cm) | 102.47 | 3.83 | 102.55 | 3.69 | -0.21 | 0.05 | 9 | -1.44| 0.18 |
| TL (cm) | 35.11 | 4.81 | 35.05 | 4.90 | 0.22 | 0.85 | 9 | 0.76 | 0.66 |
| TG (cm) | 64.02 | 5.18 | 64.21 | 4.79 | -1.14 | 0.43 | 9 | -0.45| 0.61 |
| MTG (cm) | 52.21 | 3.59 | 52.16 | 3.75 | -0.51 | 0.20 | 9 | 0.84 | 0.02 |
| MTH (cm) | 67.01 | 5.28 | 67.04 | 5.24 | -0.08 | 0.76 | 9 | -0.45| 0.66 |
| KH (cm) | 50.04 | 4.75 | 50.11 | 4.70 | -0.18 | 0.04 | 9 | -1.48| 0.17 |
| KG (cm) | 37.86 | 2.74 | 37.57 | 2.67 | -0.20 | 0.78 | 9 | 1.35 | 0.21 |
| CH (cm) | 37.08 | 6.93 | 36.98 | 6.93 | -0.43 | 0.63 | 9 | 0.43 | 0.68 |

| CG (cm) | 35.98 | 2.00 | 35.91 | 1.93 | -0.19 | 0.33 | 9 | 0.61 | 0.56 |

It seems that Judo may cause arm length differences due to asymmetrical loading. Note the difference in standing arm length, which is not statistically significant (t(9) = 2.04, p = 0.07), but it is close to the p ≤ 0.05 limit. The rest of the variables do not show significant differences between left and right sides.

Also this is just retarded the arm grew not the bone they measured the wingspan, which ik u high iq tards will be like “b- but even if you train ur hands the wingspan wont increase that much 🤓” and ur right my explanation for this is that most of these people trained judo as kids which as we know can increase bone length


Um that's about all for part 1 I wrote this while drunk so I hope I didn't mess up

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Part 1/25

Hello,

I am creating this post to address a claim made on this forum regarding a person named Tyler, who is purportedly achieving height growth through natural methods at 30 years old. Please note that English is my third language, and I am utilizing AI for formatting, translation, and grammar checks throughout this discussion.

His Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heightquest/

Commencing on
3/9/24, I aim to complete all parts within a month (if I choose to continue).

Explanation: My objective is not to debunk Tyler but to evaluate whether his methods are legitimate or cope. Tyler asserts that he has grown 1.5 inches in 13 years using natural methods. While the theoretical basis may have some validity, the practicality of the method is questionable. Even if Tyler's claims are correct, the efficacy of the method remains uncertain. However, during my research, I will attempt to identify a method within his approach that might be effective, although I won't personally test it due to being high inhib. The nigga who dick rides tyler is @Snake.0359 , who larps high IQ. Also don't say water pls this is just part 1.


I will start by discussing each of Tyler's Instagram posts and addressing approximately 200 posts, making this potentially the longest post on the forum (when i merge all parts so just imagine this post x25). My focus will be on 80 specific posts and their corresponding highlights which there are around 19 of, each containing a minimum of 20 posts.

Highlights: Growing Limbs

Part 1 - Spiral Forces

Exercises designed to exert spiral forces to mimic the growth seen in arm length by swimmers and tennis players.

Post 1-7:

His Information:


- Medicine ball split-legged wood chop
- Skipping with dumbbells
- Shadow boxing with weights
- Backflips on a trampoline
- Medicine ball Russian twist
- Dumbbell lunge

My Information:
For Adults: No, bones are complex organs composed of osseous tissue, primarily collagen fibers embedded in a matrix of calcium phosphate crystals. At the microscopic level, bones are organized into osteons, facilitating nutrient exchange. Bone growth occurs through intramembranous and endochondral ossification, primarily at growth plates. Longitudinal bone growth is limited after skeletal maturity due to epiphyseal fusion. Exercises targeting muscle strength do not significantly influence bone length in adults.

For Kids: Physical activities and exercises during childhood and adolescence positively impact bone growth and development. These activities stimulate the growth plates (epiphyseal plates) at the ends of long bones, composed of proliferating cartilage cells that eventually ossify into bone tissue, contributing to longitudinal bone growth. Weight-bearing or resistance activities induce mechanical stress on bones, promoting bone density and strength. Repetitive movements in activities like swimming and tennis exert specific mechanical forces on bones, potentially influencing their growth patterns. During this growth phase, increased cellular activity and metabolic rates facilitate the absorption of essential nutrients like calcium and vitamin D, crucial for bone mineralization and growth. Genetics play a significant role, but engaging in regular physical activity and maintaining a balanced diet rich in essential nutrients can optimize bone health and maximize growth potential during these developmental stages.

Post 8:

His Information: How to add more spiral/torsional force to an exercise


- Do exercises that take place in more than one plane of movement (Sagittal, frontal, and transverse).
- Think of ways to add more planes of movement to an exercise.
- Exercises with rotation (think hammer curl, dumbbell fly, and rear delt fly with rotation).
- Think of ways to add more rotation.
- Pronation and supination of feet and hands.
- Fast reps (F=ma).
- Significant amount of weight.

Most people do complex movements with only a light amount of weight. You want a balance between speed and weight.

My Information:
The post accurately advises on increasing spiral/torsional force during exercises through biomechanical principles and Newton's second law. Incorporating multi-planar movements introduces rotational components, demanding additional force to overcome inertia and generate torque. Exercises with rotation, like hammer curls or dumbbell flys with rotation, engage muscles in a spiraling motion, amplifying torque around joints. Pronation and supination of the feet and hands add complexity, enhancing torsional force by recruiting muscles in multiple dimensions. Fast repetitions, adhering to Newton's second law (F=ma), boost force production and torsional force during exercises. Using substantial weight ensures optimal muscle engagement and force production, aligning with biomechanics and Newtonian physics. Overall, the recommendations are scientifically accurate for maximizing spiral/torsional force.

Post 9:

His Post:

More ways to add spiral forces to exercise:

- Asymmetrical and unilateral movements (e.g., one-legged or one-armed exercises, although these can be challenging).
- Adding spiral forces is harder to legs than to arms, explaining the increased anecdotal and scientifically published data on increased arm length as a result of exercise.
- Ideally, every exercise with arms should also have a spiral component for legs, as hands can grip onto things, placing a more direct load on the arms. For example, perform one-legged, one-armed hammer curls.
- There is the possibility of doing one-legged, feet pronated/supinated leg press, but it may not be as dynamic as other movements.

My Information:
Yes, incorporating asymmetrical and unilateral movements, such as one-legged or one-armed exercises, adds spiral forces to exercises by introducing rotational components that challenge muscles to stabilize and generate torque. Spiral forces are more challenging to the legs than the arms due to the legs' larger muscle groups and weight-bearing function, leading to increased anecdotal and scientifically published data regarding arm lengthening from exercise. Ideally, every arm exercise should include a spiral component for the legs as well, as hands are capable of gripping onto objects, imposing a more direct load on the arms. For example, performing hammer curls in a one-legged, one-armed manner enhances spiral forces by engaging muscles in both the upper and lower body simultaneously. While exercises like one-legged, feet pronated/supinated leg presses offer potential, they may not be as dynamic as other movements in generating spiral forces due to limitations in range of motion and muscle engagement. Overall, incorporating asymmetrical and unilateral movements is a valid approach to maximize spiral forces during exercise.


(Note: Skipping a significant portion of exercise details for brevity, focusing on the scientific aspects.)

His Information:
He claims that torsional exercises can lengthen bones.

My Information:
No, torsional exercises primarily stimulate bone growth and density through a process called mechanotransduction, where mechanical forces are translated into biochemical signals that trigger bone remodeling. However, bone elongation primarily occurs at the growth plates, which are specialized cartilage areas at the ends of long bones responsible for longitudinal bone growth during childhood and adolescence. Once growth plates close, usually by late adolescence or early adulthood, longitudinal bone growth stops.

Torsional exercises predominantly affect bone density and strength by stimulating osteoblast activity and bone remodeling in response to mechanical stress, but they do not directly influence the growth plates or the longitudinal growth of bones. Therefore, while torsional exercises are beneficial for bone health, they do not lead to bone elongation beyond the natural growth process dictated by genetics and growth plate closure.

Evidence Analysis: YouTube Video Claiming 1/8th Inch Growth


Link to the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=326&v=Xv_ygWV3dDU&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.naturalheightgrowth.com%2F


Tyler in the video claims that the method grew him by 1/8th inch. Personally, I believe this is cope, and here's why:

While exercises such as gripping a hammer using a pinch grip and using a massage gun on the hands can enhance muscle activation and promote tissue recovery, attributing a 1/8th-inch increase in wingspan solely to these activities within a month is scientifically improbable. While these exercises may improve hand strength and muscle tone, direct bone elongation from such activities is unlikely.

Bonesmashing, can stimulate bone growth. However, the exercises described lack the specificity and intensity required for such targeted effects. Therefore, while there may be some physiological changes, attributing a noticeable increase in wingspan solely to these exercises remains scientifically improbable. In a sense he's claiming that this is a no risk version of bonesmashing.


Important Note:

Before dismissing skepticism regarding the 1/8-inch growth claim, it's crucial to consider the reliability of the measurement. Personally, I am hesitant to fully trust the accuracy of the measurement process, as individual measurement errors are not uncommon.

For those questioning the legitimacy of doubt, it's important to clarify that the skepticism does not stem from the belief that the method is merely another form of bone smashing. The individual claims to be engaging in a milder version that, theoretically, should have zero effect. The key distinction lies in the fact that using a massage gun is not equivalent to smashing with a hammer – even if done under constant intensity.

This skepticism isn't an outright rejection of the potential benefits of certain exercises. Instead, it emphasizes the importance of critically evaluating the scientific feasibility of attributing a significant increase in wingspan solely to these specific activities.

Next he uses an ancient archer with longer bones on one hand than the other, that can easily be explained with 1 either a genetic deformation or 2 the archer trained as a kid which as I already explained at the start you can grow your bones as a kid with exercises

Next he used this:

(I used ai to put this graph into text the image he posted sucks and I can't find the original post)
| Variables | N | Mean | SD | Minimum | Maximum |
|--------------|-----|--------|-------|---------|---------|
| Age | 10 | 21.56 | 3.45 | 17.60 | 28.00 |
| Height (cm) | 10 | 176.12 | 3.80 | 169.00 | 183.00 |
| Weight (kg) | 10 | 74.16 | 6.95 | 66.40 | 86.90 |
| BMI (kg/m2) | 10 | 23.82 | 2.08 | 21.19 | 27.74 |
| SMM (kg) | 10 | 38.62 | 3.20 | 35.34 | 44.84 |
| BFM (kg) | 10 | 6.56 | 2.31 | 2.70 | 9.60 |
| BFMP (%) | 10 | 8.72 | 2.54 | 3.98 | 12.56 |


| Group | Right Side | Mean SD | Left Side | Mean SD | 95% CI Lower | 95% CI Upper | df | t | P |
|--------------|------------|---------|-----------|----------|--------------|--------------|-----|------|------|
| ALM (kg) | 4.17 | 0.46 | 4.14 | 0.48 | -0.02 | 0.08 | 9 | 1.22 | 0.25 |
| LLM (kg) | 10.06 | 0.85 | 9.96 | 0.74 | -0.02 | 0.22 | 9 | 1.86 | 0.10 |
| LSH (cm) | 141.87 | 3.53 | 142.12 | 3.87 | -1.06 | 0.56 | 9 | -0.70| 0.50 |
| ASG (cm) | 45.14 | 3.33 | 45.25 | 1.64 | -0.70 | 0.50 | 9 | -1.79| 1.57 |
| SAL (cm) | 57.46 | 3.08 | 57.04 | 3.27 | -0.57 | 1.41 | 9 | 0.96 | 0.36 |
| UAG (cm) | 33.35 | 2.31 | 32.87 | 2.26 | -0.33 | 1.29 | 9 | 1.33 | 0.22 |
| EG (cm) | 28.28 | 1.53 | 27.76 | 1.83 | -0.89 | 1.93 | 9 | 0.83 | 0.43 |
| FG (cm) | 28.58 | 1.19 | 28.12 | 1.15 | 0.06 | 0.86 | 9 | 2.60 | 0.03 |
| WG (cm) | 17.49 | 0.81 | 17.09 | 0.72 | -0.04 | 0.84 | 9 | 2.04 | 0.07 |
| SWH (cm) | 101.67 | 3.90 | 101.64 | 3.87 | -0.02 | 0.08 | 9 | 1.41 | 0.19 |
| OLL (cm) | 102.47 | 3.83 | 102.55 | 3.69 | -0.21 | 0.05 | 9 | -1.44| 0.18 |
| TL (cm) | 35.11 | 4.81 | 35.05 | 4.90 | 0.22 | 0.85 | 9 | 0.76 | 0.66 |
| TG (cm) | 64.02 | 5.18 | 64.21 | 4.79 | -1.14 | 0.43 | 9 | -0.45| 0.61 |
| MTG (cm) | 52.21 | 3.59 | 52.16 | 3.75 | -0.51 | 0.20 | 9 | 0.84 | 0.02 |
| MTH (cm) | 67.01 | 5.28 | 67.04 | 5.24 | -0.08 | 0.76 | 9 | -0.45| 0.66 |
| KH (cm) | 50.04 | 4.75 | 50.11 | 4.70 | -0.18 | 0.04 | 9 | -1.48| 0.17 |
| KG (cm) | 37.86 | 2.74 | 37.57 | 2.67 | -0.20 | 0.78 | 9 | 1.35 | 0.21 |
| CH (cm) | 37.08 | 6.93 | 36.98 | 6.93 | -0.43 | 0.63 | 9 | 0.43 | 0.68 |

| CG (cm) | 35.98 | 2.00 | 35.91 | 1.93 | -0.19 | 0.33 | 9 | 0.61 | 0.56 |

It seems that Judo may cause arm length differences due to asymmetrical loading. Note the difference in standing arm length, which is not statistically significant (t(9) = 2.04, p = 0.07), but it is close to the p ≤ 0.05 limit. The rest of the variables do not show significant differences between left and right sides.

Also this is just retarded the arm grew not the bone they measured the wingspan, which ik u high iq tards will be like “b- but even if you train ur hands the wingspan wont increase that much 🤓” and ur right my explanation for this is that most of these people trained judo as kids which as we know can increase bone length


Um that's about all for part 1 I wrote this while drunk so I hope I didn't mess up

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Not cope it works and worked
Wait, for real? What is the consenus? What is the step by step guide how to actually implement this?
If it truly worked, I'd assume literally every single male on looksmax would be doing this already, no?
We all know height is one of the most important things for SMV
 
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Wait, for real? What is the consenus? What is the step by step guide how to actually implement this?
Theres a video i sent in the replies of one of the parts if u look through comments u shouod be able to find this
If it truly worked, I'd assume literally every single male on looksmax would be doing this already, no?
People are lazy this takes time, half the time “looksmaxers” here dont even workout or do the bare minimum, expecting them to do something new is hoping for too much, also im not preaching this like other users
We all know height is one of the most important things for SMV
 
People are lazy this takes time,
No. People are lazy when it comes to softmaxxes. People will sell their own grandmother for an inch of height. Like, they would do ANYTHING. Hell, I'm tall and would do ANYTHING for a couple of inches (planning LL to max out). So no, it's not about laziness. I think it's about this being unproven method. Short guys are suicidal. Putting in the hours would be a better alternative than death.
 
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No. People are lazy when it comes to softmaxxes. People will sell their own grandmother for an inch of height. Like, they would do ANYTHING. Hell, I'm tall and would do ANYTHING for a couple of inches (planning LL to max out). So no, it's not about laziness. I think it's about this being unproven method. Short guys are suicidal. Putting in the hours would be a better alternative than death.
Ive had people test this and other theories ive had, if someone really cared about it they would dm me abt it like several people have already, this isnt commonly known or used because its not simple enough for people, look at the things that are popular “mewing” “bonesmashing” mainstream looksmaxing is a joke and thats 99.99% of users on here
 
Part 1/25

Hello,

I am creating this post to address a claim made on this forum regarding a person named Tyler, who is purportedly achieving height growth through natural methods at 30 years old. Please note that English is my third language, and I am utilizing AI for formatting, translation, and grammar checks throughout this discussion.

His Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heightquest/

Commencing on
3/9/24, I aim to complete all parts within a month (if I choose to continue).

Explanation: My objective is not to debunk Tyler but to evaluate whether his methods are legitimate or cope. Tyler asserts that he has grown 1.5 inches in 13 years using natural methods. While the theoretical basis may have some validity, the practicality of the method is questionable. Even if Tyler's claims are correct, the efficacy of the method remains uncertain. However, during my research, I will attempt to identify a method within his approach that might be effective, although I won't personally test it due to being high inhib. The nigga who dick rides tyler is @Snake.0359 , who larps high IQ. Also don't say water pls this is just part 1.


I will start by discussing each of Tyler's Instagram posts and addressing approximately 200 posts, making this potentially the longest post on the forum (when i merge all parts so just imagine this post x25). My focus will be on 80 specific posts and their corresponding highlights which there are around 19 of, each containing a minimum of 20 posts.

Highlights: Growing Limbs

Part 1 - Spiral Forces

Exercises designed to exert spiral forces to mimic the growth seen in arm length by swimmers and tennis players.

Post 1-7:

His Information:


- Medicine ball split-legged wood chop
- Skipping with dumbbells
- Shadow boxing with weights
- Backflips on a trampoline
- Medicine ball Russian twist
- Dumbbell lunge

My Information:
For Adults: No, bones are complex organs composed of osseous tissue, primarily collagen fibers embedded in a matrix of calcium phosphate crystals. At the microscopic level, bones are organized into osteons, facilitating nutrient exchange. Bone growth occurs through intramembranous and endochondral ossification, primarily at growth plates. Longitudinal bone growth is limited after skeletal maturity due to epiphyseal fusion. Exercises targeting muscle strength do not significantly influence bone length in adults.

For Kids: Physical activities and exercises during childhood and adolescence positively impact bone growth and development. These activities stimulate the growth plates (epiphyseal plates) at the ends of long bones, composed of proliferating cartilage cells that eventually ossify into bone tissue, contributing to longitudinal bone growth. Weight-bearing or resistance activities induce mechanical stress on bones, promoting bone density and strength. Repetitive movements in activities like swimming and tennis exert specific mechanical forces on bones, potentially influencing their growth patterns. During this growth phase, increased cellular activity and metabolic rates facilitate the absorption of essential nutrients like calcium and vitamin D, crucial for bone mineralization and growth. Genetics play a significant role, but engaging in regular physical activity and maintaining a balanced diet rich in essential nutrients can optimize bone health and maximize growth potential during these developmental stages.

Post 8:

His Information: How to add more spiral/torsional force to an exercise


- Do exercises that take place in more than one plane of movement (Sagittal, frontal, and transverse).
- Think of ways to add more planes of movement to an exercise.
- Exercises with rotation (think hammer curl, dumbbell fly, and rear delt fly with rotation).
- Think of ways to add more rotation.
- Pronation and supination of feet and hands.
- Fast reps (F=ma).
- Significant amount of weight.

Most people do complex movements with only a light amount of weight. You want a balance between speed and weight.

My Information:
The post accurately advises on increasing spiral/torsional force during exercises through biomechanical principles and Newton's second law. Incorporating multi-planar movements introduces rotational components, demanding additional force to overcome inertia and generate torque. Exercises with rotation, like hammer curls or dumbbell flys with rotation, engage muscles in a spiraling motion, amplifying torque around joints. Pronation and supination of the feet and hands add complexity, enhancing torsional force by recruiting muscles in multiple dimensions. Fast repetitions, adhering to Newton's second law (F=ma), boost force production and torsional force during exercises. Using substantial weight ensures optimal muscle engagement and force production, aligning with biomechanics and Newtonian physics. Overall, the recommendations are scientifically accurate for maximizing spiral/torsional force.

Post 9:

His Post:

More ways to add spiral forces to exercise:

- Asymmetrical and unilateral movements (e.g., one-legged or one-armed exercises, although these can be challenging).
- Adding spiral forces is harder to legs than to arms, explaining the increased anecdotal and scientifically published data on increased arm length as a result of exercise.
- Ideally, every exercise with arms should also have a spiral component for legs, as hands can grip onto things, placing a more direct load on the arms. For example, perform one-legged, one-armed hammer curls.
- There is the possibility of doing one-legged, feet pronated/supinated leg press, but it may not be as dynamic as other movements.

My Information:
Yes, incorporating asymmetrical and unilateral movements, such as one-legged or one-armed exercises, adds spiral forces to exercises by introducing rotational components that challenge muscles to stabilize and generate torque. Spiral forces are more challenging to the legs than the arms due to the legs' larger muscle groups and weight-bearing function, leading to increased anecdotal and scientifically published data regarding arm lengthening from exercise. Ideally, every arm exercise should include a spiral component for the legs as well, as hands are capable of gripping onto objects, imposing a more direct load on the arms. For example, performing hammer curls in a one-legged, one-armed manner enhances spiral forces by engaging muscles in both the upper and lower body simultaneously. While exercises like one-legged, feet pronated/supinated leg presses offer potential, they may not be as dynamic as other movements in generating spiral forces due to limitations in range of motion and muscle engagement. Overall, incorporating asymmetrical and unilateral movements is a valid approach to maximize spiral forces during exercise.


(Note: Skipping a significant portion of exercise details for brevity, focusing on the scientific aspects.)

His Information:
He claims that torsional exercises can lengthen bones.

My Information:
No, torsional exercises primarily stimulate bone growth and density through a process called mechanotransduction, where mechanical forces are translated into biochemical signals that trigger bone remodeling. However, bone elongation primarily occurs at the growth plates, which are specialized cartilage areas at the ends of long bones responsible for longitudinal bone growth during childhood and adolescence. Once growth plates close, usually by late adolescence or early adulthood, longitudinal bone growth stops.

Torsional exercises predominantly affect bone density and strength by stimulating osteoblast activity and bone remodeling in response to mechanical stress, but they do not directly influence the growth plates or the longitudinal growth of bones. Therefore, while torsional exercises are beneficial for bone health, they do not lead to bone elongation beyond the natural growth process dictated by genetics and growth plate closure.

Evidence Analysis: YouTube Video Claiming 1/8th Inch Growth


Link to the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=326&v=Xv_ygWV3dDU&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.naturalheightgrowth.com%2F


Tyler in the video claims that the method grew him by 1/8th inch. Personally, I believe this is cope, and here's why:

While exercises such as gripping a hammer using a pinch grip and using a massage gun on the hands can enhance muscle activation and promote tissue recovery, attributing a 1/8th-inch increase in wingspan solely to these activities within a month is scientifically improbable. While these exercises may improve hand strength and muscle tone, direct bone elongation from such activities is unlikely.

Bonesmashing, can stimulate bone growth. However, the exercises described lack the specificity and intensity required for such targeted effects. Therefore, while there may be some physiological changes, attributing a noticeable increase in wingspan solely to these exercises remains scientifically improbable. In a sense he's claiming that this is a no risk version of bonesmashing.


Important Note:

Before dismissing skepticism regarding the 1/8-inch growth claim, it's crucial to consider the reliability of the measurement. Personally, I am hesitant to fully trust the accuracy of the measurement process, as individual measurement errors are not uncommon.

For those questioning the legitimacy of doubt, it's important to clarify that the skepticism does not stem from the belief that the method is merely another form of bone smashing. The individual claims to be engaging in a milder version that, theoretically, should have zero effect. The key distinction lies in the fact that using a massage gun is not equivalent to smashing with a hammer – even if done under constant intensity.

This skepticism isn't an outright rejection of the potential benefits of certain exercises. Instead, it emphasizes the importance of critically evaluating the scientific feasibility of attributing a significant increase in wingspan solely to these specific activities.

Next he uses an ancient archer with longer bones on one hand than the other, that can easily be explained with 1 either a genetic deformation or 2 the archer trained as a kid which as I already explained at the start you can grow your bones as a kid with exercises

Next he used this:

(I used ai to put this graph into text the image he posted sucks and I can't find the original post)
| Variables | N | Mean | SD | Minimum | Maximum |
|--------------|-----|--------|-------|---------|---------|
| Age | 10 | 21.56 | 3.45 | 17.60 | 28.00 |
| Height (cm) | 10 | 176.12 | 3.80 | 169.00 | 183.00 |
| Weight (kg) | 10 | 74.16 | 6.95 | 66.40 | 86.90 |
| BMI (kg/m2) | 10 | 23.82 | 2.08 | 21.19 | 27.74 |
| SMM (kg) | 10 | 38.62 | 3.20 | 35.34 | 44.84 |
| BFM (kg) | 10 | 6.56 | 2.31 | 2.70 | 9.60 |
| BFMP (%) | 10 | 8.72 | 2.54 | 3.98 | 12.56 |


| Group | Right Side | Mean SD | Left Side | Mean SD | 95% CI Lower | 95% CI Upper | df | t | P |
|--------------|------------|---------|-----------|----------|--------------|--------------|-----|------|------|
| ALM (kg) | 4.17 | 0.46 | 4.14 | 0.48 | -0.02 | 0.08 | 9 | 1.22 | 0.25 |
| LLM (kg) | 10.06 | 0.85 | 9.96 | 0.74 | -0.02 | 0.22 | 9 | 1.86 | 0.10 |
| LSH (cm) | 141.87 | 3.53 | 142.12 | 3.87 | -1.06 | 0.56 | 9 | -0.70| 0.50 |
| ASG (cm) | 45.14 | 3.33 | 45.25 | 1.64 | -0.70 | 0.50 | 9 | -1.79| 1.57 |
| SAL (cm) | 57.46 | 3.08 | 57.04 | 3.27 | -0.57 | 1.41 | 9 | 0.96 | 0.36 |
| UAG (cm) | 33.35 | 2.31 | 32.87 | 2.26 | -0.33 | 1.29 | 9 | 1.33 | 0.22 |
| EG (cm) | 28.28 | 1.53 | 27.76 | 1.83 | -0.89 | 1.93 | 9 | 0.83 | 0.43 |
| FG (cm) | 28.58 | 1.19 | 28.12 | 1.15 | 0.06 | 0.86 | 9 | 2.60 | 0.03 |
| WG (cm) | 17.49 | 0.81 | 17.09 | 0.72 | -0.04 | 0.84 | 9 | 2.04 | 0.07 |
| SWH (cm) | 101.67 | 3.90 | 101.64 | 3.87 | -0.02 | 0.08 | 9 | 1.41 | 0.19 |
| OLL (cm) | 102.47 | 3.83 | 102.55 | 3.69 | -0.21 | 0.05 | 9 | -1.44| 0.18 |
| TL (cm) | 35.11 | 4.81 | 35.05 | 4.90 | 0.22 | 0.85 | 9 | 0.76 | 0.66 |
| TG (cm) | 64.02 | 5.18 | 64.21 | 4.79 | -1.14 | 0.43 | 9 | -0.45| 0.61 |
| MTG (cm) | 52.21 | 3.59 | 52.16 | 3.75 | -0.51 | 0.20 | 9 | 0.84 | 0.02 |
| MTH (cm) | 67.01 | 5.28 | 67.04 | 5.24 | -0.08 | 0.76 | 9 | -0.45| 0.66 |
| KH (cm) | 50.04 | 4.75 | 50.11 | 4.70 | -0.18 | 0.04 | 9 | -1.48| 0.17 |
| KG (cm) | 37.86 | 2.74 | 37.57 | 2.67 | -0.20 | 0.78 | 9 | 1.35 | 0.21 |
| CH (cm) | 37.08 | 6.93 | 36.98 | 6.93 | -0.43 | 0.63 | 9 | 0.43 | 0.68 |

| CG (cm) | 35.98 | 2.00 | 35.91 | 1.93 | -0.19 | 0.33 | 9 | 0.61 | 0.56 |

It seems that Judo may cause arm length differences due to asymmetrical loading. Note the difference in standing arm length, which is not statistically significant (t(9) = 2.04, p = 0.07), but it is close to the p ≤ 0.05 limit. The rest of the variables do not show significant differences between left and right sides.

Also this is just retarded the arm grew not the bone they measured the wingspan, which ik u high iq tards will be like “b- but even if you train ur hands the wingspan wont increase that much 🤓” and ur right my explanation for this is that most of these people trained judo as kids which as we know can increase bone length


Um that's about all for part 1 I wrote this while drunk so I hope I didn't mess up

@northern mogger @Snake.0359 @mathis @justropemaxbro
lmk if u want to be @ in any threads i make :)
No before and afters cope
 
Part 1/25

Hello,

I am creating this post to address a claim made on this forum regarding a person named Tyler, who is purportedly achieving height growth through natural methods at 30 years old. Please note that English is my third language, and I am utilizing AI for formatting, translation, and grammar checks throughout this discussion.

His Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heightquest/

Commencing on
3/9/24, I aim to complete all parts within a month (if I choose to continue).

Explanation: My objective is not to debunk Tyler but to evaluate whether his methods are legitimate or cope. Tyler asserts that he has grown 1.5 inches in 13 years using natural methods. While the theoretical basis may have some validity, the practicality of the method is questionable. Even if Tyler's claims are correct, the efficacy of the method remains uncertain. However, during my research, I will attempt to identify a method within his approach that might be effective, although I won't personally test it due to being high inhib. The nigga who dick rides tyler is @Snake.0359 , who larps high IQ. Also don't say water pls this is just part 1.


I will start by discussing each of Tyler's Instagram posts and addressing approximately 200 posts, making this potentially the longest post on the forum (when i merge all parts so just imagine this post x25). My focus will be on 80 specific posts and their corresponding highlights which there are around 19 of, each containing a minimum of 20 posts.

Highlights: Growing Limbs

Part 1 - Spiral Forces

Exercises designed to exert spiral forces to mimic the growth seen in arm length by swimmers and tennis players.

Post 1-7:

His Information:


- Medicine ball split-legged wood chop
- Skipping with dumbbells
- Shadow boxing with weights
- Backflips on a trampoline
- Medicine ball Russian twist
- Dumbbell lunge

My Information:
For Adults: No, bones are complex organs composed of osseous tissue, primarily collagen fibers embedded in a matrix of calcium phosphate crystals. At the microscopic level, bones are organized into osteons, facilitating nutrient exchange. Bone growth occurs through intramembranous and endochondral ossification, primarily at growth plates. Longitudinal bone growth is limited after skeletal maturity due to epiphyseal fusion. Exercises targeting muscle strength do not significantly influence bone length in adults.

For Kids: Physical activities and exercises during childhood and adolescence positively impact bone growth and development. These activities stimulate the growth plates (epiphyseal plates) at the ends of long bones, composed of proliferating cartilage cells that eventually ossify into bone tissue, contributing to longitudinal bone growth. Weight-bearing or resistance activities induce mechanical stress on bones, promoting bone density and strength. Repetitive movements in activities like swimming and tennis exert specific mechanical forces on bones, potentially influencing their growth patterns. During this growth phase, increased cellular activity and metabolic rates facilitate the absorption of essential nutrients like calcium and vitamin D, crucial for bone mineralization and growth. Genetics play a significant role, but engaging in regular physical activity and maintaining a balanced diet rich in essential nutrients can optimize bone health and maximize growth potential during these developmental stages.

Post 8:

His Information: How to add more spiral/torsional force to an exercise


- Do exercises that take place in more than one plane of movement (Sagittal, frontal, and transverse).
- Think of ways to add more planes of movement to an exercise.
- Exercises with rotation (think hammer curl, dumbbell fly, and rear delt fly with rotation).
- Think of ways to add more rotation.
- Pronation and supination of feet and hands.
- Fast reps (F=ma).
- Significant amount of weight.

Most people do complex movements with only a light amount of weight. You want a balance between speed and weight.

My Information:
The post accurately advises on increasing spiral/torsional force during exercises through biomechanical principles and Newton's second law. Incorporating multi-planar movements introduces rotational components, demanding additional force to overcome inertia and generate torque. Exercises with rotation, like hammer curls or dumbbell flys with rotation, engage muscles in a spiraling motion, amplifying torque around joints. Pronation and supination of the feet and hands add complexity, enhancing torsional force by recruiting muscles in multiple dimensions. Fast repetitions, adhering to Newton's second law (F=ma), boost force production and torsional force during exercises. Using substantial weight ensures optimal muscle engagement and force production, aligning with biomechanics and Newtonian physics. Overall, the recommendations are scientifically accurate for maximizing spiral/torsional force.

Post 9:

His Post:

More ways to add spiral forces to exercise:

- Asymmetrical and unilateral movements (e.g., one-legged or one-armed exercises, although these can be challenging).
- Adding spiral forces is harder to legs than to arms, explaining the increased anecdotal and scientifically published data on increased arm length as a result of exercise.
- Ideally, every exercise with arms should also have a spiral component for legs, as hands can grip onto things, placing a more direct load on the arms. For example, perform one-legged, one-armed hammer curls.
- There is the possibility of doing one-legged, feet pronated/supinated leg press, but it may not be as dynamic as other movements.

My Information:
Yes, incorporating asymmetrical and unilateral movements, such as one-legged or one-armed exercises, adds spiral forces to exercises by introducing rotational components that challenge muscles to stabilize and generate torque. Spiral forces are more challenging to the legs than the arms due to the legs' larger muscle groups and weight-bearing function, leading to increased anecdotal and scientifically published data regarding arm lengthening from exercise. Ideally, every arm exercise should include a spiral component for the legs as well, as hands are capable of gripping onto objects, imposing a more direct load on the arms. For example, performing hammer curls in a one-legged, one-armed manner enhances spiral forces by engaging muscles in both the upper and lower body simultaneously. While exercises like one-legged, feet pronated/supinated leg presses offer potential, they may not be as dynamic as other movements in generating spiral forces due to limitations in range of motion and muscle engagement. Overall, incorporating asymmetrical and unilateral movements is a valid approach to maximize spiral forces during exercise.


(Note: Skipping a significant portion of exercise details for brevity, focusing on the scientific aspects.)

His Information:
He claims that torsional exercises can lengthen bones.

My Information:
No, torsional exercises primarily stimulate bone growth and density through a process called mechanotransduction, where mechanical forces are translated into biochemical signals that trigger bone remodeling. However, bone elongation primarily occurs at the growth plates, which are specialized cartilage areas at the ends of long bones responsible for longitudinal bone growth during childhood and adolescence. Once growth plates close, usually by late adolescence or early adulthood, longitudinal bone growth stops.

Torsional exercises predominantly affect bone density and strength by stimulating osteoblast activity and bone remodeling in response to mechanical stress, but they do not directly influence the growth plates or the longitudinal growth of bones. Therefore, while torsional exercises are beneficial for bone health, they do not lead to bone elongation beyond the natural growth process dictated by genetics and growth plate closure.

Evidence Analysis: YouTube Video Claiming 1/8th Inch Growth


Link to the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=326&v=Xv_ygWV3dDU&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.naturalheightgrowth.com%2F


Tyler in the video claims that the method grew him by 1/8th inch. Personally, I believe this is cope, and here's why:

While exercises such as gripping a hammer using a pinch grip and using a massage gun on the hands can enhance muscle activation and promote tissue recovery, attributing a 1/8th-inch increase in wingspan solely to these activities within a month is scientifically improbable. While these exercises may improve hand strength and muscle tone, direct bone elongation from such activities is unlikely.

Bonesmashing, can stimulate bone growth. However, the exercises described lack the specificity and intensity required for such targeted effects. Therefore, while there may be some physiological changes, attributing a noticeable increase in wingspan solely to these exercises remains scientifically improbable. In a sense he's claiming that this is a no risk version of bonesmashing.


Important Note:

Before dismissing skepticism regarding the 1/8-inch growth claim, it's crucial to consider the reliability of the measurement. Personally, I am hesitant to fully trust the accuracy of the measurement process, as individual measurement errors are not uncommon.

For those questioning the legitimacy of doubt, it's important to clarify that the skepticism does not stem from the belief that the method is merely another form of bone smashing. The individual claims to be engaging in a milder version that, theoretically, should have zero effect. The key distinction lies in the fact that using a massage gun is not equivalent to smashing with a hammer – even if done under constant intensity.

This skepticism isn't an outright rejection of the potential benefits of certain exercises. Instead, it emphasizes the importance of critically evaluating the scientific feasibility of attributing a significant increase in wingspan solely to these specific activities.

Next he uses an ancient archer with longer bones on one hand than the other, that can easily be explained with 1 either a genetic deformation or 2 the archer trained as a kid which as I already explained at the start you can grow your bones as a kid with exercises

Next he used this:

(I used ai to put this graph into text the image he posted sucks and I can't find the original post)
| Variables | N | Mean | SD | Minimum | Maximum |
|--------------|-----|--------|-------|---------|---------|
| Age | 10 | 21.56 | 3.45 | 17.60 | 28.00 |
| Height (cm) | 10 | 176.12 | 3.80 | 169.00 | 183.00 |
| Weight (kg) | 10 | 74.16 | 6.95 | 66.40 | 86.90 |
| BMI (kg/m2) | 10 | 23.82 | 2.08 | 21.19 | 27.74 |
| SMM (kg) | 10 | 38.62 | 3.20 | 35.34 | 44.84 |
| BFM (kg) | 10 | 6.56 | 2.31 | 2.70 | 9.60 |
| BFMP (%) | 10 | 8.72 | 2.54 | 3.98 | 12.56 |


| Group | Right Side | Mean SD | Left Side | Mean SD | 95% CI Lower | 95% CI Upper | df | t | P |
|--------------|------------|---------|-----------|----------|--------------|--------------|-----|------|------|
| ALM (kg) | 4.17 | 0.46 | 4.14 | 0.48 | -0.02 | 0.08 | 9 | 1.22 | 0.25 |
| LLM (kg) | 10.06 | 0.85 | 9.96 | 0.74 | -0.02 | 0.22 | 9 | 1.86 | 0.10 |
| LSH (cm) | 141.87 | 3.53 | 142.12 | 3.87 | -1.06 | 0.56 | 9 | -0.70| 0.50 |
| ASG (cm) | 45.14 | 3.33 | 45.25 | 1.64 | -0.70 | 0.50 | 9 | -1.79| 1.57 |
| SAL (cm) | 57.46 | 3.08 | 57.04 | 3.27 | -0.57 | 1.41 | 9 | 0.96 | 0.36 |
| UAG (cm) | 33.35 | 2.31 | 32.87 | 2.26 | -0.33 | 1.29 | 9 | 1.33 | 0.22 |
| EG (cm) | 28.28 | 1.53 | 27.76 | 1.83 | -0.89 | 1.93 | 9 | 0.83 | 0.43 |
| FG (cm) | 28.58 | 1.19 | 28.12 | 1.15 | 0.06 | 0.86 | 9 | 2.60 | 0.03 |
| WG (cm) | 17.49 | 0.81 | 17.09 | 0.72 | -0.04 | 0.84 | 9 | 2.04 | 0.07 |
| SWH (cm) | 101.67 | 3.90 | 101.64 | 3.87 | -0.02 | 0.08 | 9 | 1.41 | 0.19 |
| OLL (cm) | 102.47 | 3.83 | 102.55 | 3.69 | -0.21 | 0.05 | 9 | -1.44| 0.18 |
| TL (cm) | 35.11 | 4.81 | 35.05 | 4.90 | 0.22 | 0.85 | 9 | 0.76 | 0.66 |
| TG (cm) | 64.02 | 5.18 | 64.21 | 4.79 | -1.14 | 0.43 | 9 | -0.45| 0.61 |
| MTG (cm) | 52.21 | 3.59 | 52.16 | 3.75 | -0.51 | 0.20 | 9 | 0.84 | 0.02 |
| MTH (cm) | 67.01 | 5.28 | 67.04 | 5.24 | -0.08 | 0.76 | 9 | -0.45| 0.66 |
| KH (cm) | 50.04 | 4.75 | 50.11 | 4.70 | -0.18 | 0.04 | 9 | -1.48| 0.17 |
| KG (cm) | 37.86 | 2.74 | 37.57 | 2.67 | -0.20 | 0.78 | 9 | 1.35 | 0.21 |
| CH (cm) | 37.08 | 6.93 | 36.98 | 6.93 | -0.43 | 0.63 | 9 | 0.43 | 0.68 |

| CG (cm) | 35.98 | 2.00 | 35.91 | 1.93 | -0.19 | 0.33 | 9 | 0.61 | 0.56 |

It seems that Judo may cause arm length differences due to asymmetrical loading. Note the difference in standing arm length, which is not statistically significant (t(9) = 2.04, p = 0.07), but it is close to the p ≤ 0.05 limit. The rest of the variables do not show significant differences between left and right sides.

Also this is just retarded the arm grew not the bone they measured the wingspan, which ik u high iq tards will be like “b- but even if you train ur hands the wingspan wont increase that much 🤓” and ur right my explanation for this is that most of these people trained judo as kids which as we know can increase bone length


Um that's about all for part 1 I wrote this while drunk so I hope I didn't mess up

@northern mogger @Snake.0359 @mathis @justropemaxbro
lmk if u want to be @ in any threads i make :)
I've been researching into this, he started this stuff in 2008 iirc, so almost 16 years for just 1~2 inches is not worth it tbh.
 
I've been researching into this, he started this stuff in 2008 iirc, so almost 16 years for just 1~2 inches is not worth it tbh.
Hes extremely inconsistent hes been off longer than on, 14 years total, 13 when i made this post and 1.5 is not bad at all, if ur consitent u could get 3-4 if ur 15 5’6 being 5’10 at 30 is better than being 5’6
 
There are before and afters bud check his insta
No there isnt all there is is him claiming to have increased growth. Also he claimed to have grown fingers with lsjl which obviously doesnt fucking work. Its just placebo/mismeasuring
 
No there isnt all there is is him claiming to have increased growth.
Why would he lie hes a licensed doctor iirc
Also he claimed to have grown fingers with lsjl which obviously doesnt fucking work.
No he didnt he claimed fingers to grow from doing multiple things which included lsjl he cant say which specifically, its like taking several random supplements and u start feeling better but theres no way to know which one helped without invidually checking

Also his fingers did grow thats a fact he has video proof of this
Its just placebo/mismeasuring
He uses stadiometer for height
 
Why would he lie hes a licensed doctor iirc

No he didnt he claimed fingers to grow from doing multiple things which included lsjl he cant say which specifically, its like taking several random supplements and u start feeling better but theres no way to know which one helped without invidually checking
The ones he was trying were all cope doesnt matter tis between lsjl and other dumb shit like microfractures
Also his fingers did grow thats a fact he has video proof of this
No there isnt show any video
He uses stadiometer for height
He never measured height with any of his methods
 
The ones he was trying were all cope doesnt matter tis between lsjl and other dumb shit like microfractures

No there isnt show any video

He never measured height with any of his methods

Do u not fucking know what a stadiometer is holy shit
 

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