Guys that girls fuck vs date?

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Is there a difference between the type of guys that girls go for ONS with vs. want to date and be in LTR with?

I saw a study showing that girls want ONS with masc, high T, low empathy type guys and want LTR with provider type guys due to hormones and evolution. Why would they not want LTR with the first category since theoretically this is higher in SMV?
 
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Becauseguys with attractive faces and bodies are much more likely to be disloyal and abandon the woman after she gets pregnant.

Women want these guys genes, but they want an ugly kind guys money and resources from a LTR


Women have evolved to evaluate men in two categories: whether they are reliable long term providers, and whether they contain high quality genes.[1] The theory of strategic pluralism was proposed by Steven Gangestad and Jeffry Simpson, two professors of psychology at the University of New Mexico and Texas A&M University, respectively.

Of course the ideal is having both "chad looks" and near infinite resources, like Christian Grey in the 50 Shades book.
Who is a tall 27 year old billionaire with an attractive face and ripped body.

But that's so rare it's a fantasy character, that's why the book sold more than the Bible. It's the ultimate female fantasy
 
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Becauseguys with attractive faces and bodies are much more likely to be disloyal and abandon the woman after she gets pregnant.

Women want these guys genes, but they want an ugly kind guys money and resources from a LTR




Of course the ideal is having both "chad looks" and near infinite resources, like Christian Grey in the 50 Shades book.

But that's so rare it's a fantasy character, that's why the book sold more than the Bible. It's the ultimate female fantasy
For me I am able to get lots of ONS with girls but rarely see them again. Does this mean I am Chad but not moneymaxxed or have good lifestyle? Tbh all I do is roid and try to hookup w girls
 
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For me I am able to get lots of ONS with girls but rarely see them again. Does this mean I am Chad but not moneymaxxed or have good lifestyle? Tbh all I do is roid and try to hookup w girls
same, but I would like to fuck them again but they end up ghosting or something. maybe we can't fuck
 
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same, but I would like to fuck them again but they end up ghosting or something. maybe we can't fuck
What do you think is the issue? I’m assuming sex is usually avg the first time for most guys. I would say I am even above avg since I finger them and play with their clit. Do they see us as a boy toy?

Let’s see what @Amnesia @Biggdink @Germania think
 
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same, but I would like to fuck them again but they end up ghosting or something. maybe we can't fuck
I became extremely pissed recently after banging a legit Stacy and she didn’t reply to me JFL wanted to pin tren asap
 
Women literally just want to hook up, stop taking it personally. That whole red pill idea that they all secretly want relationships is so wrong.

Also: you don’t really want to fuck them again anyway, you’d prefer new girls - but you want the validation of them chasing you
 
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For me I am able to get lots of ONS with girls but rarely see them again. Does this mean I am Chad but not moneymaxxed or have good lifestyle? Tbh all I do is roid and try to hookup w girls
It means you're bad at sex.
 
Women literally just want to hook up, stop taking it personally. That whole red pill idea that they all secretly want relationships is so wrong.

Also: you don’t really want to fuck them again anyway, you’d prefer new girls - but you want the validation of them chasing you
Some do and some don't.
 
What do you think is the issue? I’m assuming sex is usually avg the first time for most guys. I would say I am even above avg since I finger them and play with their clit. Do they see us as a boy toy?

Let’s see what @Amnesia @Biggdink @Germania think
idk men, because they sometimes even chase after the sex but once we make plans again they ghost. it could be that they are just sluts but also I think it has to do with bad sex on our end men.. me personally I haven't had much experience (only this past year and its always ONS so I cant practice)
 
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It means you're bad at sex.
I am not bad at sex my sex has always been the same and I’m the past the girls always wanted to see me again. In terms of sex I last about 10 minutes of penetration, finger them and stimulate their clit. Maybe I still need to improve?
 
Women literally just want to hook up, stop taking it personally. That whole red pill idea that they all secretly want relationships is so wrong.

Also: you don’t really want to fuck them again anyway, you’d prefer new girls - but you want the validation of them chasing you
Why do some girls ask for condom and some don’t care? Is it related to looks?
 
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Why do some girls ask for condom and some don’t care? Is it related to looks?

Probably the ones that had pregnancy scares vs the ones that didn’t. I don’t think it’s due to looks for once.
 
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Is there a difference between the type of guys that girls go for ONS with vs. want to date and be in LTR with?

I saw a study showing that girls want ONS with masc, high T, low empathy type guys and want LTR with provider type guys due to hormones and evolution. Why would they not want LTR with the first category since theoretically this is higher in SMV?
Omg suicidefuel
 
Probably the ones that had pregnancy scares vs the ones that didn’t. I don’t think it’s due to looks for once.
So what do you think is the issue if girls don’t want to see me again? They compliment me, say I am Chad, and I often take them home and bang them within 40-60 min of being on the date. These girls are MTB-stacylite looks level
 
Some do and some don't.
Your sample size is Asian women not saying there’s anything wrong w that but I’m talking about western women
 
it could also be being to needy in after sex texts because you have this problem you get needy
 
it could also be being to needy in after sex texts because you have this problem you get needy
I don’t do that
 
So what do you think is the issue if girls don’t want to see me again? They compliment me, say I am Chad, and I often take them home and bang them within 40-60 min of being on the date. These girls are MTB-stacylite looks level

There is no issue, they just want one night stands. Again, stop taking it personally.
 
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Why would they not want LTR with the first category since theoretically this is higher in SMV
Because the chances are he will not provide resources for her and her kids.
 
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Your sample size is Asian women not saying there’s anything wrong w that but I’m talking about western women
I'm married to an Asian woman. Been with plenty of white girls too.
 
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But she wants his genes
She will get impregnated by him and find betabuxx cuck to raise the offspring. This is why concealed ovulation evolved in humans.
 
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Women literally just want to hook up, stop taking it personally. That whole red pill idea that they all secretly want relationships is so wrong.

Also: you don’t really want to fuck them again anyway, you’d prefer new girls - but you want the validation of them chasing you
They do want to hookup with chads but they also want relationships. They get lonely and are very obsessed with always being around people. Women can't just chill alone, they need constant socialization and a bf would provide that.
 
She will get impregnated by him and find betabuxx cuck to raise the offspring. This is why concealed ovulation evolved in humans.
So I shouldn’t be worried if the girls duck me but don’t want LTR?
 
Women literally just want to hook up, stop taking it personally. That whole red pill idea that they all secretly want relationships is so wrong.

Also: you don’t really want to fuck them again anyway, you’d prefer new girls - but you want the validation of them chasing you
young virgin women want relationships but they literally lose that ability after their first partner
 
I wouldn't know. Foreplay isn't something I've ever really engaged in besides biting an ass or a back.
Any good resources on advanced sex game?
 
I read a post a while ago about how sons don’t look like their fathers so that a women can cheat on her provider and get pregnant from a man with good genes and the provider will never know, thinking that they are his kids.

I also remember something about concealed ovulation



“This hypothesis suggests that women concealed ovulation to obtain men's aid in rearing offspring. Schröder[14]
 
What do you think is the issue? I’m assuming sex is usually avg the first time for most guys. I would say I am even above avg since I finger them and play with their clit. Do they see us as a boy toy?

Let’s see what @Amnesia @Biggdink @Germania think
Could be any reason why she doesn’t wanna see you again tbh
No way to know but yea many girls will date moneymaxxed, careermaxxed etc guys with compatible personalities but will hook up with a guy who isn’t


It’s also much easier for me to just get hookups
 
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Wdym by mental?
How you idealize the other person and the sex you're having with them. One guy might be able to get a girl off good by giving her a simple missionary f*ck, while another dude with the same girl might have to do 30 minutes of c*nt eating and change positions multiple times. Long term seduction is foreplay.
 
Could be any reason why she doesn’t wanna see you again tbh
No way to know but yea many girls will date moneymaxxed, careermaxxed etc guys with compatible personalities but will hook up with a guy who isn’t


It’s also much easier for me to just get hookups
It sucks man haven’t been able to keep any of the stacylites I fucked for more than ons
 
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How you idealize the other person and the sex you're having with them. One guy might be able to get a girl off good by giving her a simple missionary f*ck, while another dude with the same girl might have to do 30 minutes of c*nt eating and change positions multiple times. Long term seduction is foreplay.
Elab
 
I would say I am even above avg since I finger them and play with their clit. Do they see us as a boy toy?

Let’s see what @Amnesia @Biggdink @Germania think

this mentality makes it sound like you are not above average or that the average is garbage
 
What mentality
the mentality that fingering them and playing with their clit makes you above average. like merely doing foreplay isn't something that elevates you to some higher level. it's like fundamental. and if you're approaching it as just some box you have to check off then you're gonna suck at it.

i can't think of a great analogy but it's like saying "i'm above average at playing tennis because i can put topspin on the ball!" like, yeah, topspin is good, but the fact that you think that makes you above average is evidence that you're probably not all that good at tennis.

like, don't approach it as a series of boxes you're just checking off.
 
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the mentality that fingering them and playing with their clit makes you above average. like merely doing foreplay isn't something that elevates you to some higher level. it's like fundamental. and if you're approaching it as just some box you have to check off then you're gonna suck at it.

i can't think of a great analogy but it's like saying "i'm above average at playing tennis because i can put topspin on the ball!" like, yeah, topspin is good, but the fact that you think that makes you above average is evidence that you're probably not all that good at tennis.

like, don't approach it as a series of boxes you're just checking off.
I have banged a lot of girls man idk
 

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