Gym Experts: What FFMI Is Realistically Achievable With Hard Work Dedication Naturally?

[LooksmaxxHopeful]

Assuming I try my best and maximize my diet and workout, what is the highest FFMI at 10% body fat or less can I realistically expect to achieve while being natural?

For those who don't know, it's a calculator taking into account weight, height, and body fat %

Fat Free Mass Index (FFMI) Calculator

This Fat free mass index FFMI calculator computes the muscle mass index for bodybuilders and fitness enthusiasts based on weight, body fat and height.

www.thecalculator.co

 

[Orc]

FFMI means nothing, some dudes look amazing at like 20, others are at 25 and still look like a sack of potatoes.

 

[Anasurimbor]

whats your height. general rule of thumb for naturals- if you want 10-13% bf but dont want to dedicate your whole life to gym autism and just maintain on diet+calisthenics. your height in cm -110. If you truly follow diet/sleep routine/gym/ - 100.

so harcore regime - 173 cm -73kg- 12%bf= 22ffmi.
realistic - 173cm - 63kg-12%= 19ffmi.

 

[LooksmaxxHopeful]

whats your height

5'8

 

[Artemis]

Assuming I try my best and maximize my diet and workout, what is the highest FFMI at 10% body fat or less can I realistically expect to achieve while being natural?

For those who don't know, it's a calculator taking into account weight, height, and body fat %

Fat Free Mass Index (FFMI) Calculator

This Fat free mass index FFMI calculator computes the muscle mass index for bodybuilders and fitness enthusiasts based on weight, body fat and height.

www.thecalculator.co

If you reach 22 FFMI at <=10% BF, you have elite tier genetics.

 

[LooksmaxxHopeful]

FFMI means nothing, some dudes look amazing at like 20, others are at 25 and still look like a sack of potatoes.

I suppose it depends on your muscle inserts, but it's purpose is to see how much muscle mass it's possible for you to add naturally, the natural limit is supposedly 25 ffmi but I want to ask if it's actually possible to realistically achieve 23/24/25 ffmi being peak natty

 

[LooksmaxxHopeful]

If you reach 22 FFMI at <=10% BF, you have elite tier genetics.

So reaching 23, 24, led alone 25 FFMI naturally isn't realistic? Even if I have perfect diet and workout routine over the course of a decade?

 

[Artemis]

I suppose it depends on your muscle inserts, but it's purpose is to see how much muscle mass it's possible for you to add naturally, the natural limit is supposedly 25 ffmi but I want to ask if it's actually possible to realistically achieve 23/24/25 ffmi being peak natty

Those huge numbers 23+ are for those who carry a lot of fat, not for lean individuals. You cannot be large and lean at the same time without gear.

So reaching 23, 24, led alone 25 FFMI naturally isn't realistic? Even if I have perfect diet and workout routine over the course of a decade?

NO, it is not realistic without gear IF YOU ARE LEAN. If you want to compromise by getting to e.g. 15% BF, then it is another thing entirely.

 

[LooksmaxxHopeful]

whats your height. general rule of thumb for naturals- if you want 10-13% bf but dont want to dedicate your whole life to gym autism and just maintain on diet+calisthenics. your height in cm -110. If you truly follow diet/sleep routine/gym/ - 100.

so harcore regime - 173 cm -73kg- 12%bf= 22ffmi.
realistic - 173cm - 63kg-12%= 19ffmi.

Is it possible for me to reach 23, 24 or 25 ffmi naturally at all?

Even if I went full autism mode to the gym and diet for a decade it's not realistic to expect w/o PEDs?

I'm going to be natural no matter what and I'm also going to keep trying to gain as much size as I can (naturally), I'm just curious on what I should expect to be my peak.

 

[LooksmaxxHopeful]

Those huge numbers 23+ are for those who carry a lot of fat, not for lean individuals. You cannot be large and lean at the same time without gear.


NO, it is not realistic without gear IF YOU ARE LEAN. If you want to compromise by getting to e.g. 15% BF, then it is another thing entirely.

Well I want to be very lean and I wouldn't sacrifice size for bf%, so basically 22 ffmi 10% bf or less is what I'm probably going to max out at?

Getting 23 or 24 while 10% or less would only be if I was very lucky genetics and probably won't happen?

 

[Lawton88]

Not sure about those numbers but people that don't take roids but have good genetics are usually limited to about 17 inch arms (non-pumped up). Very few decent bodyfat people can have much bigger arms than that without juice.

 

[Deleted member 8365]

Assuming I try my best and maximize my diet and workout, what is the highest FFMI at 10% body fat or less can I realistically expect to achieve while being natural?

For those who don't know, it's a calculator taking into account weight, height, and body fat %

Fat Free Mass Index (FFMI) Calculator

This Fat free mass index FFMI calculator computes the muscle mass index for bodybuilders and fitness enthusiasts based on weight, body fat and height.

www.thecalculator.co

 

[Deleted member 2268]

FFMI means nothing, some dudes look amazing at like 20, others are at 25 and still look like a sack of potatoes.

Actually correct