Gym maxing with out gear is pointless

[Tigermoggerlol]

Literally no one is natty. If your a dude with average genes the most you’ll get naturally is just an athletic build. Every dude u see on social media is just a fraud either 1. There 200 pounds 10% bf and lying abt being natty while blasting gear or 2. Its just a person who angle frauds while being 120 pounds and irl looks like complete shit or 3. the worst of them all also know an as Tyrounsville who lies abt his weight AND angle frauds. When in NT yt vids he just looks like a normal dude. And if your gonna bring the “this guy at my gym has 18 inch arms and he’s natty Saar” ask him how long he’s been training for and 10/10 times it’s been more then 15 years and 9/10 times there not even life time natty. Now if your looking at natural bodybuilders like Casey Kelly, Quinton, etc. All of them alr started of jacked sub 15% bf. Your not a genetic elite.

Ik this is a hard truth to carry bc taking gear is a pain in the ass and it’s scary but if you acc wanna physique mog u need to take gear. It can be sarms or it can be AAS wtv.

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Bump

 

[fwhr]

Literally no one is natty. If your a dude with average genes the most you’ll get naturally is just an athletic build. Every dude u see on social media is just a fraud either 1. There 200 pounds 10% bf and lying abt being natty while blasting gear or 2. Its just a person who angle frauds while being 120 pounds and irl looks like complete shit or 3. the worst of them all also know an as Tyrounsville who lies abt his weight AND angle frauds. When in NT yt vids he just looks like a normal dude. And if your gonna bring the “this guy at my gym has 18 inch arms and he’s natty Saar” ask him how long he’s been training for and 10/10 times it’s been more then 15 years and 9/10 times there not even life time natty. Now if your looking at natural bodybuilders like Casey Kelly, Quinton, etc. All of them alr started of jacked sub 15% bf. Your not a genetic elite.

Ik this is a hard truth to carry bc taking gear is a pain in the ass and it’s scary but if you acc wanna physique mog u need to take gear. It can be sarms or it can be AAS wtv.

water

 

[Arbuscular]

It can be sarms

I think I will try ostarine some time soon just to see what the hype is all abt bcz its cheap asf, test seems a lot more effective tho

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

I think I will try ostarine some time soon just to see what the hype is all abt bcz its cheap asf, test seems a lot more effective tho

Try it just to get your feet wet I’ve done it’s pretty good it won’t make u gain a ton of muscle but will help u lean down and make u look freaky.

 

[PrimalPlasty]

water

but lube formulaaa brooooo

 

[Arbuscular]

Try it just to get your feet wet I’ve done it’s pretty good it won’t make u gain a ton of muscle but will help u lean down and make u look freaky.

Im gonna try it out with sarms first because it seems like the supression is very mild, when im a little older (mid 16-17 years old) im going to use test

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Im gonna try it out with sarms first because it seems like the supression is very mild, when im a little older (mid 16-17 years old) im going to use test

Oh yeah if u pct with enclo and hcg your test just stays normal it’ll drop but not bad. And I recommend taking actual gear till u move out bc its hard to keep that a secret from your parents/ grandparents/ aunts, etc. Unless they let u take gear

 

[AbuSdanteet]

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Literally no one is natty. If your a dude with average genes the most you’ll get naturally is just an athletic build. Every dude u see on social media is just a fraud either 1. There 200 pounds 10% bf and lying abt being natty while blasting gear or 2. Its just a person who angle frauds while being 120 pounds and irl looks like complete shit or 3. the worst of them all also know an as Tyrounsville who lies abt his weight AND angle frauds. When in NT yt vids he just looks like a normal dude. And if your gonna bring the “this guy at my gym has 18 inch arms and he’s natty Saar” ask him how long he’s been training for and 10/10 times it’s been more then 15 years and 9/10 times there not even life time natty. Now if your looking at natural bodybuilders like Casey Kelly, Quinton, etc. All of them alr started of jacked sub 15% bf. Your not a genetic elite.

Ik this is a hard truth to carry bc taking gear is a pain in the ass and it’s scary but if you acc wanna physique mog u need to take gear. It can be sarms or it can be AAS wtv.

I don’t wanna lose my hair though?

 

[Linus1888]

I fully fucking agree. But I also think that if you roid that you should have atleast trained for about 2-3 months so you already have the correct execution on all excercises otherwise you kinda waste your money

 

[Wog]

all men should aim for a physique similar to saafiir, jon skywalker, or zyzz, those would be considered athletic, anything bigger than those physiques is lowering attraction points significantly.

no girl wants a guy who breathes loud as hell and can't even scratch his own back.

if you're white then yeh, maybe you do need steroids, if you're ethnic, probably not, majority ethnic people have good muscle building genetics.

 

[Copercel]

Literally no one is natty. If your a dude with average genes the most you’ll get naturally is just an athletic build. Every dude u see on social media is just a fraud either 1. There 200 pounds 10% bf and lying abt being natty while blasting gear or 2. Its just a person who angle frauds while being 120 pounds and irl looks like complete shit or 3. the worst of them all also know an as Tyrounsville who lies abt his weight AND angle frauds. When in NT yt vids he just looks like a normal dude. And if your gonna bring the “this guy at my gym has 18 inch arms and he’s natty Saar” ask him how long he’s been training for and 10/10 times it’s been more then 15 years and 9/10 times there not even life time natty. Now if your looking at natural bodybuilders like Casey Kelly, Quinton, etc. All of them alr started of jacked sub 15% bf. Your not a genetic elite.

Ik this is a hard truth to carry bc taking gear is a pain in the ass and it’s scary but if you acc wanna physique mog u need to take gear. It can be sarms or it can be AAS wtv.

Yes,yes,yes.

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

I


I don’t wanna lose my hair though?

Just take ru-58841, manoxadil or dut. There’s a lot of shit that can keep your hair now a days

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

I fully fucking agree. But I also think that if you roid that you should have atleast trained for about 2-3 months so you already have the correct execution on all excercises otherwise you kinda waste your money

Oh yeah I agree on that 100% I’m just saying bc like there’s a lot of mf who have alr been training for 2 years and wonder why they still don’t look good lol

 

[AbuSdanteet]

Just take ru-58841, manoxadil or dut. There’s a lot of shit that can keep your hair now a days

Finasteride

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

all men should aim for a physique similar to saafiir, jon skywalker, or zyzz, those would be considered athletic, anything bigger than those physiques is lowering attraction points significantly.

no girl wants a guy who breathes loud as hell and can't even scratch his own back.

if you're white then yeh, maybe you do need steroids, if you're ethnic, probably not, majority ethnic people have good muscle building genetics.

Yeah and all of those guys have blasted to the edge of death lol and zyzz acc died and even if your black same thing

 

[truexeno]

Literally no one is natty. If your a dude with average genes the most you’ll get naturally is just an athletic build. Every dude u see on social media is just a fraud either 1. There 200 pounds 10% bf and lying abt being natty while blasting gear or 2. Its just a person who angle frauds while being 120 pounds and irl looks like complete shit or 3. the worst of them all also know an as Tyrounsville who lies abt his weight AND angle frauds. When in NT yt vids he just looks like a normal dude. And if your gonna bring the “this guy at my gym has 18 inch arms and he’s natty Saar” ask him how long he’s been training for and 10/10 times it’s been more then 15 years and 9/10 times there not even life time natty. Now if your looking at natural bodybuilders like Casey Kelly, Quinton, etc. All of them alr started of jacked sub 15% bf. Your not a genetic elite.

Ik this is a hard truth to carry bc taking gear is a pain in the ass and it’s scary but if you acc wanna physique mog u need to take gear. It can be sarms or it can be AAS wtv.

Food & Genetics is EVERYTHING

 

[Copercel]

Finasteride

Dut obviously mogs… are you trying to show off your new word you learned or what?

 

[Linus1888]

Oh yeah I agree on that 100% I’m just saying bc like there’s a lot of mf who have alr been training for 2 years and wonder why they still don’t look good lol

I’m 16 and about 30% of dudes around my age (up to 18) are all talking about how they are already training for 2+ years and they look fucking shit even though they do everything. I made the same amount of progress on 2 months of lgd as others would do in 1.5 years natty (from those ppl ik irl). You rly do get left behind if you don’t roid when young

 

[syuri]

Literally no one is natty. If your a dude with average genes the most you’ll get naturally is just an athletic build. Every dude u see on social media is just a fraud either 1. There 200 pounds 10% bf and lying abt being natty while blasting gear or 2. Its just a person who angle frauds while being 120 pounds and irl looks like complete shit or 3. the worst of them all also know an as Tyrounsville who lies abt his weight AND angle frauds. When in NT yt vids he just looks like a normal dude. And if your gonna bring the “this guy at my gym has 18 inch arms and he’s natty Saar” ask him how long he’s been training for and 10/10 times it’s been more then 15 years and 9/10 times there not even life time natty. Now if your looking at natural bodybuilders like Casey Kelly, Quinton, etc. All of them alr started of jacked sub 15% bf. Your not a genetic elite.

Ik this is a hard truth to carry bc taking gear is a pain in the ass and it’s scary but if you acc wanna physique mog u need to take gear. It can be sarms or it can be AAS wtv.

this is why cruising on test is ideal

 

[MaracasMogs]

water

pfp

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

I’m 16 and about 30% of dudes around my age (up to 18) are all talking about how they are already training for 2+ years and they look fucking shit even though they do everything. I made the same amount of progress on 2 months of lgd as others would do in 1.5 years natty (from those ppl ik irl). You rly do get left behind if you don’t roid when young

That’s brutal yeah I can relate similar to that the minute I started lifting I started taking rad 140 and mk and in 4 months I was the most jacked dude in my high school lol

 

[Linus1888]

That’s brutal yeah I can relate similar to that the minute I started lifting I started taking rad 140 and mk and in 4 months I was the most jacked dude in my high school lol

Mirin, did you take Enclo or test with that and I guess you’ll do another cycle? I personally would feel hella frustrated on a legitimate cycle with a test base because of all the major muscle loss I’d experience afterward.

 

[AbuSdanteet]

Dut obviously mogs… are you trying to show off your new word you learned or what?

I’ve known about fin for years lol. Dut mogs, but it doesn’t work as quickly as finasteride lol. Dut is a nuclear option. There’s no point in using it if fin works for you. Fin nukes like 70% of your dht. Whereas dut nukes 80-95%. Ain’t nobody tryna get Erectile dysfunction or gyno

 

[Wog]

Yeah and all of those guys have blasted to the edge of death lol and zyzz acc died and even if your black same thing

zyzz was an ectomorph so he was pretty much cooked without steroids from the very beginning

jon skywalker didn't need steroids, before he even trained he was 6'4 and had excellent base, he only jumped on for quicker results

saafiir looks like he has only recently hopped on, but his base is good also.

apart from zyzz these people could have attained an excellent physique naturally, most white people are like zyzz, so yeh pretty much cooked without steroids.

Not everyone needs them though to attain a physique good enough to steal the girlfriends off anyone in this forum.

 

[Copercel]

I’ve known about fin for years lol. Dut mogs, but it doesn’t work as quickly as finasteride lol. Dut is a nuclear option. There’s no point in using it if fin works for you. Fin nukes like 70% of your dht. Whereas dut nukes 80-95%. Ain’t nobody tryna get Erectile dysfunction or gyno

Dut and fin have the same side effect profile btw.

 

[AbuSdanteet]

Dut and fin have the same side effect profile btw.

wouldn’t the side effect chances be higher with dut since it blocks more dht?

 

[Copercel]

wouldn’t the side effect chances be higher with dut since it blocks more dht?

After a certain amount of DHT is blocked, the side effects are plateau.

This study shows that dut and fin have no difference in their side effects profile (so you better just take dut):

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"There does not appear to be any clinically significant difference between the adverse event profiles of dutasteride and finasteride."

@jeff1234 @kazama @idkmanimao

 

[idkmanimao]

After a certain amount of DHT is blocked, the side effects are plateau.

This study shows that dut and fin have no difference in their side effects profile (so you better just take dut):

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@jeff1234 @kazama @idkmanimao

huh?

 

[kazama]

Literally no one is natty. If your a dude with average genes the most you’ll get naturally is just an athletic build. Every dude u see on social media is just a fraud either 1. There 200 pounds 10% bf and lying abt being natty while blasting gear or 2. Its just a person who angle frauds while being 120 pounds and irl looks like complete shit or 3. the worst of them all also know an as Tyrounsville who lies abt his weight AND angle frauds. When in NT yt vids he just looks like a normal dude. And if your gonna bring the “this guy at my gym has 18 inch arms and he’s natty Saar” ask him how long he’s been training for and 10/10 times it’s been more then 15 years and 9/10 times there not even life time natty. Now if your looking at natural bodybuilders like Casey Kelly, Quinton, etc. All of them alr started of jacked sub 15% bf. Your not a genetic elite.

Ik this is a hard truth to carry bc taking gear is a pain in the ass and it’s scary but if you acc wanna physique mog u need to take gear. It can be sarms or it can be AAS wtv.

DNR and water. Most ppl do a shitty workout and dont understand a damn thing abt muscle fibers, motor unit recruitment, etc....keep coping. Or use high doses to compensate for your shitty training.
Roids = greater recovery = more well-used sets = higher frequency = more hypertrophy. Lol, not to mention a bunch of other crap
u probably cant even use ur type 2 jfl fibers, and u're already going to want to use roids for that?

After a certain amount of DHT is blocked, the side effects are plateau.

This study shows that dut and fin have no difference in their side effects profile (so you better just take dut):

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@jeff1234 @kazama @idkmanimao

Fr

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Mirin, did you take Enclo or test with that and I guess you’ll do another cycle? I personally would feel hella frustrated on a legitimate cycle with a test base because of all the major muscle loss I’d experience afterward.

Yeah I didn’t take enclo during but only after and I did lose muscle after the cycle bc not only is that natural with out a proper pct but I also went on a cut lol

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

zyzz was an ectomorph so he was pretty much cooked without steroids from the very beginning

jon skywalker didn't need steroids, before he even trained he was 6'4 and had excellent base, he only jumped on for quicker results

saafiir looks like he has only recently hopped on, but his base is good also.

apart from zyzz these people could have attained an excellent physique naturally, most white people are like zyzz, so yeh pretty much cooked without steroids.

Not everyone needs them though to attain a physique good enough to steal the girlfriends off anyone in this forum.

John didn’t need steroids nigga he started taking roids the minute he went to the gym lol. A good base doesn’t exist all of them looked like shit till they started blasting

 

[spongebob]

Just focus on 1 muscle group 2x a week high volume for 6-8 weeks. You  will see progress. Then skip to another part and just train it once 1-2 weeks to maintain.
diet is key though.

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

DNR and water. Most ppl do a shitty workout and dont understand a damn thing abt muscle fibers, motor unit recruitment, etc....keep coping. Or use high doses to compensate for your shitty training.
Roids = greater recovery = more well-used sets = higher frequency = more hypertrophy. Lol, not to mention a bunch of other crap
u probably cant even use ur type 2 jfl fibers, and u're already going to want to use roids for that?

Fr

Okay then have fun training for 5 years eating chicken and rice with perfect form every workout to not even be 180 lean lol. The way u train is cope as long as your there pushing weight your gonna gain the exact same amount of muscle as you do training like Jeff nipard jfl.

 

[einzigartig]

Literally no one is natty. If your a dude with average genes the most you’ll get naturally is just an athletic build. Every dude u see on social media is just a fraud either 1. There 200 pounds 10% bf and lying abt being natty while blasting gear or 2. Its just a person who angle frauds while being 120 pounds and irl looks like complete shit or 3. the worst of them all also know an as Tyrounsville who lies abt his weight AND angle frauds. When in NT yt vids he just looks like a normal dude. And if your gonna bring the “this guy at my gym has 18 inch arms and he’s natty Saar” ask him how long he’s been training for and 10/10 times it’s been more then 15 years and 9/10 times there not even life time natty. Now if your looking at natural bodybuilders like Casey Kelly, Quinton, etc. All of them alr started of jacked sub 15% bf. Your not a genetic elite.

Ik this is a hard truth to carry bc taking gear is a pain in the ass and it’s scary but if you acc wanna physique mog u need to take gear. It can be sarms or it can be AAS wtv.

work on your grammar U soab you don't know difference between your and you're and there and they're fag

 

[slaters]

Yeah but I still think you need atleast a year natty to build up those tendons and learn how to get the other basics right though

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Just focus on 1 muscle group 2x a week high volume for 6-8 weeks. You  will see progress. Then skip to another part and just train it once 1-2 weeks to maintain.
diet is key though.

Niggas will do this for years and still get no where it’s not about how u train its your genetics lol

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

P

work on your grammar U soab you don't know difference between your and you're and there and they're fag

Proper spelling is cope. Keep acting like a currycel nerd u clown

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Yeah but I still think you need atleast a year natty to build up those tendons and learn how to get the other basics right though

This is true yeah

 

[AbuSdanteet]

After a certain amount of DHT is blocked, the side effects are plateau.

This study shows that dut and fin have no difference in their side effects profile (so you better just take dut):

Preparing to download ...

@jeff1234 @kazama @idkmanimao

I can’t wait to build less muscle, have a lesser sex drive and gyno.

Jk. I’ll keep my T levels healthy and ascend it to the stratosphere. Do you believe in me son?

 

[yadih]

nigga giving me ideas

 

[Copercel]

I can’t wait to build less muscle, have a lesser sex drive and gyno.

Jk. I’ll keep my T levels healthy and ascend it to the stratosphere. Do you believe in me son?

Yes, I believe in you. Rock the world,son.

 

[AbuSdanteet]

Yes, I believe in you. Rock the world,son.
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Yes. My ru58841 is already on the way

 

[kazama]

Okay then have fun training for 5 years eating chicken and rice

I will probably have the same stimuli that an npc has by training in 1-2 years instead of doing it for 5 years jfl

rfect form every workout to not even be 180 lean lol.

how? Tell me how lol. Use science, show me something
Btw I was this weight at 14 jfl

The way u train is cope as long as your there pushing weight your gonna gain the exact same amount of muscle as you do training like Jeff nipard jfl.

Dumbass used another "dumbass" to try to validate something. But he can't even describe how hypertrophy happens.
Thx buddy, ur physical and cognitive genetics suck compared to mine apparently lol
Next time, look for an old magician to cure ur illness and not a doctor who uses facts to say something
@jeff1234 @Copercel

 

[Copercel]

I will probably have the same stimuli that an npc has by training in 1-2 years instead of doing it for 5 years jfl

how? Tell me how lol. Use science, show me something
Btw I was this weight at 14 jfl

Dumbass used another "dumbass" to try to validate something. But he can't even describe how hypertrophy happens.
Thx buddy, ur physical and cognitive genetics suck compared to mine apparently lol
Next time, look for an old magician to cure ur illness and not a doctor who uses facts to say something
@jeff1234 @Copercel

Muh just train tbh.

Niggas will do this for years and still get no where it’s not about how u train its your genetics lol

Yeah genetics do play a big role, but that doesn’t mean that the way you train doesn’t matter…

 

[zharupodrugu]

im just lean with abs and some muscles nothing outstanding. Chiseled face and ab veins works better than bloated gymcel with red face.

200 lbs lean needed to intimidate/attract other men not attract women

 

[kazama]

Niggas will do this for years and still get no where it’s not about how u train its your genetics lol

omg, u idk. Dont understand the basics apparently, btw what u know abt roids? You apply it and ur body starts generating muscle like hulk jfl?

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Calm down a bit bro, his bone structure is top tier

Muh just train tbh

let me cope with the fact that I can only use drugs from China and a low cycle

 

[einzigartig]

P

Proper spelling is cope. Keep acting like a currycel nerd u clown

ohh shit found the curry jfl at calling me curry while having German name

 

[zharupodrugu]

Calm down a bit bro, his bone structure is top tier

hes also 6'5 and has bitches around him

 

[kazama]

hes also 6'5 and has bitches around him
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and he still squint. This saúde knows what hes doing