Gym maxing with out gear is pointless

[AverageCurryEnjoyer]

Literally no one is natty. If your a dude with average genes the most you’ll get naturally is just an athletic build. Every dude u see on social media is just a fraud either 1. There 200 pounds 10% bf and lying abt being natty while blasting gear or 2. Its just a person who angle frauds while being 120 pounds and irl looks like complete shit or 3. the worst of them all also know an as Tyrounsville who lies abt his weight AND angle frauds. When in NT yt vids he just looks like a normal dude. And if your gonna bring the “this guy at my gym has 18 inch arms and he’s natty Saar” ask him how long he’s been training for and 10/10 times it’s been more then 15 years and 9/10 times there not even life time natty. Now if your looking at natural bodybuilders like Casey Kelly, Quinton, etc. All of them alr started of jacked sub 15% bf. Your not a genetic elite.

Ik this is a hard truth to carry bc taking gear is a pain in the ass and it’s scary but if you acc wanna physique mog u need to take gear. It can be sarms or it can be AAS wtv.

correct about everything except the last part. Taking gear aint scary, and it isnt a pain in the ass. Its not that hard to run a cycle. Just pin your cheeks 24 times and your stkmach for the rest of your life

 

[jbwhtninthailand]

Literally no one is natty. If your a dude with average genes the most you’ll get naturally is just an athletic build. Every dude u see on social media is just a fraud either 1. There 200 pounds 10% bf and lying abt being natty while blasting gear or 2. Its just a person who angle frauds while being 120 pounds and irl looks like complete shit or 3. the worst of them all also know an as Tyrounsville who lies abt his weight AND angle frauds. When in NT yt vids he just looks like a normal dude. And if your gonna bring the “this guy at my gym has 18 inch arms and he’s natty Saar” ask him how long he’s been training for and 10/10 times it’s been more then 15 years and 9/10 times there not even life time natty. Now if your looking at natural bodybuilders like Casey Kelly, Quinton, etc. All of them alr started of jacked sub 15% bf. Your not a genetic elite.

Ik this is a hard truth to carry bc taking gear is a pain in the ass and it’s scary but if you acc wanna physique mog u need to take gear. It can be sarms or it can be AAS wtv.

You don’t need roids, this is the ideal female gaze.

 

[slaters]

You don’t need roids, this is the ideal female gaze.

It’s not about girls id get shit tested by nigs when hanging w girls when I was twink maxed
It’s a different halo when your big and lean too

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Ik this is a hard truth to carry bc taking gear is a pain in the ass and it’s scary but if you acc wanna physique mog u need to take gear.

Absolutely nothing about taking gear is a pain. And nothing about it is scary in the slightest you fucking pussy.

And you ain’t gonna build shit running SARMS only.

But going to the gym is almost a waste of time if you aren’t on gear, I will say that.

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

correct about everything except the last part. Taking gear aint scary, and it isnt a pain in the ass. Its not that hard to run a cycle. Just pin your cheeks 24 times and your stkmach for the rest of your life

For some ppl it is A BIG pain in the ass if there broke and still under 18 lol

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

I will probably have the same stimuli that an npc has by training in 1-2 years instead of doing it for 5 years jfl

how? Tell me how lol. Use science, show me something
Btw I was this weight at 14 jfl

Dumbass used another "dumbass" to try to validate something. But he can't even describe how hypertrophy happens.
Thx buddy, ur physical and cognitive genetics suck compared to mine apparently lol
Next time, look for an old magician to cure ur illness and not a doctor who uses facts to say something
@jeff1234 @Copercel

I legit mentioned genetics in my thread are u autistic? And I just used as an example congrats bro we weren’t all born genetic elites jfl fucking idiot

 

[svarddre]

Just say you have bad genetics

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Absolutely nothing about taking gear is a pain. And nothing about it is scary in the slightest you fucking pussy.

And you ain’t gonna build shit running SARMS only.

But going to the gym is almost a waste of time if you aren’t on gear, I will say that.

Tell that to ppl who are under 18 and still live with there mom u fucking idiot and u can build a solid amount on sarms but yet AAS will work better.

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Just say you have bad genetics

Nigga this goes for everyone lol I’ve never seen an average dude get to 200 pounds shredded natty lol

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

correct about everything except the last part. Taking gear aint scary, and it isnt a pain in the ass. Its not that hard to run a cycle. Just pin your cheeks 24 times and your stkmach for the rest of your life

Some ppl hate that idea

 

[Swarthy Knight]

Good thing I just wanna be lean/shredded and don't gotta worry about this stuff. Poor gymcels

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Tell that to ppl who are under 18 and still live with there mom u fucking idiot

Only a certified retard would get caught with gear in the first place.

u can build a solid amount on sarms

Sarms only? Not really. After your cycle (your hormonal profile can’t maintain what you’ve built) you can decide to eat more than maintenance while recovering and retain your muscle mass and get fat as shit, or deficit and lose your muscle mass and remain lean. Maintence and become skinny fat. Either bite the bullet and stay on gear, actual gear. or don’t bother at all. You ain’t building anything significant in an 8 week cycle of LGD JFL twice a year LOL.

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Only a certified retard would get caught with gear in the first place.


Sarms only? Not really. After your cycle (your hormonal profile can’t maintain what you’ve built) you can decide to eat more than maintenance and retain your muscle mass and get fat as shit, or deficit and lose your muscle mass and remain lean. Maintence and become skinny fat. Either bite the bullet and stay on gear, actual gear. or don’t bother at all. You ain’t building anything significant in an 8 week cycle of LGD JFL twice a year LOL.

A lot of ppl are retards lol and this is false I’ve ran sarms before and got huge in a short period of time and after I stopped I pct with enclo only (bad mistake) and then started cut so I did lose a lot of size but got leaner. And now imma hope back on simple. It’s not all bad

 

[pajjeetslayer]

Only a certified retard would get caught with gear in the first place.


Sarms only? Not really. After your cycle (your hormonal profile can’t maintain what you’ve built) you can decide to eat more than maintenance and retain your muscle mass and get fat as shit, or deficit and lose your muscle mass and remain lean. Maintence and become skinny fat. Either bite the bullet and stay on gear, actual gear. or don’t bother at all. You ain’t building anything significant in an 8 week cycle of LGD JFL twice a year LOL.

How would you go about hiding that shit from you parents in the first place? Tbf I know a couple places I could put it and they would probably never find it but didn’t you say with out dut roids are a looksmin and don’t you need dht during puberty? I’m clueless on roids besides the basics I could be completely wrong Im just asking Sensei Dut

 

[chadisbeingmade]

A lot of ppl are retards lol and this is false I’ve ran sarms before and got huge in a short period of time and after I stopped I pct with enclo only (bad mistake) and then started cut so I did lose a lot of size but got leaner. And now imma hope back on simple. It’s not all bad

No idea what was said here. You told me you were retarded enough to PCT with enclo and sarms wothout a test base. Then told me you started a cut and got leaner (and lost the size you gained). Was something else meant to happen on the cut? Basically just proved what I said.

How would you go about hiding that shit from you parents in the first place? Tbf I know a couple places I could put it and they would probably never find it but didn’t you say with out dut roids are a looksmin and don’t you need dht during puberty? I’m clueless on roids besides the basics I could be completely wrong Im just asking Sensei Dut

Test doesn’t need to be refrigerated or anything. Yes not running Dut while roiding is just a recipe for eviscerated elastin (guaranteed), acne and hair (if you are predisposed).

I said DHT is worthless in puberty insofar you are willing to experiment with other androgens. Meaning using androgens that are more androgenic than DHT while also being anabolic, unlike DHT. DHT is instantly metabolised by 3α-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase in muscle tissue. It isn’t anabolic whatsoever ever. MENT & Tren are far more androgenic than DHT and they're actually active in muscle tissue unlike DHT.

 

[pajjeetslayer]

No idea what was said here. You told me you were retarded enough to PCT with enclo and sarms wothout a test base. Then told me you started a cut and got leaner (and lost the size you gained). Was something else meant to happen on the cut? Basically just proved what I said.


Test doesn’t need to be refrigerated or anything. Yes not running Dut while roiding is just a recipe for eviscerated elastin (guaranteed), acne and hair (if you are predisposed).

I said DHT is worthless in puberty insofar you are willing to experiment with other androgens. Meaning using androgens that are more androgenic than DHT while also being anabolic, unlike DHT. DHT is instantly metabolised by 3α-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase in muscle tissue. It isn’t anabolic whatsoever ever. MENT & Tren are far more androgenic than DHT and they're actually active in muscle tissue unlike DHT.

Not worth the risk then imo i'll pin when i'm older I guess thank you anyways

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

No idea what was said here. You told me you were retarded enough to PCT with enclo and sarms wothout a test base. Then told me you started a cut and got leaner (and lost the size you gained). Was something else meant to happen on the cut? Basically just proved what I said.


Test doesn’t need to be refrigerated or anything. Yes not running Dut while roiding is just a recipe for eviscerated elastin (guaranteed), acne and hair (if you are predisposed).

I said DHT is worthless in puberty insofar you are willing to experiment with other androgens. Meaning using androgens that are more androgenic than DHT while also being anabolic, unlike DHT. DHT is instantly metabolised by 3α-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase in muscle tissue. It isn’t anabolic whatsoever ever. MENT & Tren are far more androgenic than DHT and they're actually active in muscle tissue unlike DHT.

Igh wtv dude im just saying sarms are good if your a teenager not tryna hide vials and commit to a proper steroid cycle and cruise after. With sarms u just take them for 8-12 weeks get good gains hope off do a good pct this time imma do enclo nolva and hcg along with igf-1 to try to keep my size and eat at maintenance till my test recovers

 

[AverageCurryEnjoyer]

For some ppl it is A BIG pain in the ass if there broke and still under 18 lol

Im both brah, Broke and 16. Make It Happen. If you want it bad enough, you'll find a way

 

[AverageCurryEnjoyer]

Some ppl hate that idea

Thise people will forever be ltns and cope.

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Im both brah, Broke and 16. Make It Happen. If you want it bad enough, you'll find a way

Im 17 rn I’ve alr taken sarms when I was 16 like u can get a job and shi

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Thise people will forever be ltns and cope.

Better then the ppl who still cope thinking chicken and rice for 5 years is gonna make them Jeff sied jfl

 

[AverageCurryEnjoyer]

Im 17 rn I’ve alr taken sarms when I was 16 like u can get a job and shi

Convinced my parents to buy me. A new desktop and sold that shit XD

 

[AverageCurryEnjoyer]

Better then the ppl who still cope thinking chicken and rice for 5 years is gonna make them Jeff sied jfl

Exactly, Ill be the first to admit that I was a pussy taking 200mg per week of test e amd 4iu hgh( Im broke ). Im still taking the trt dosage rn and its been like 6 months almost. ITS going great ngl.

Ill run a proper cycle very soon, as soon as I sort out a few problems and proceed with the nexr step.

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Convinced my parents to buy me. A new desktop and sold that shit XD

That’s acc method no cap. I work at little Caesar’s tho jfl

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Exactly, Ill be the first to admit that I was a pussy taking 200mg per week of test e amd 4iu hgh( Im broke ). Im still taking the trt dosage rn and its been like 6 months almost. ITS going great ngl.

Ill run a proper cycle very soon, as soon as I sort out a few problems and proceed with the nexr step.

I mean your alr ahead of the game man. I’m still running sarms but once I get enough money I’ll run a proper roid cycle and be up there with u jfl

 

[AverageCurryEnjoyer]

That’s acc method no cap. I work at little Caesar’s tho jfl

I cant get a job, I could tutor kids but naaaah

 

[genes_reroll]

I’ve known about fin for years lol. Dut mogs, but it doesn’t work as quickly as finasteride lol. Dut is a nuclear option. There’s no point in using it if fin works for you. Fin nukes like 70% of your dht. Whereas dut nukes 80-95%. Ain’t nobody tryna get Erectile dysfunction or gyno

Dut is so much better for many reasons you sound like a bluepilled derm

 

[AverageCurryEnjoyer]

I mean your alr ahead of the game man. I’m still running sarms but once I get enough money I’ll run a proper roid cycle and be up there with u jfl

Ascend or die trying before 2026. My physiwue still shit due to diet and mit training hard enough I think. I got gyno so it sucks ass

 

[AverageCurryEnjoyer]

Dut is so much better for many reasons you sound like a bluepilled derm

Dut mogs harder

 

[DNRDniggerking]

if you touch a dumbell and you're arent enhanced you are coping in realtime

 

[AbuSdanteet]

Dut is so much better for many reasons you sound like a bluepilled derm

Nobody is saying dut isn’t better you dumbass mongrel. But dut is a final resort, it’s better to start off with fin.

A bluepiller would tell you to avoid all these chemicals altogether and just go bald.

Finasteride (and by extension dutasteride) is the medicine of chads. Finasteride works in the overwhelming majority of balding men.

 

[slaters]

I mean your alr ahead of the game man. I’m still running sarms but once I get enough money I’ll run a proper roid cycle and be up there with u jfl

It costs the same

 

[genes_reroll]

Nobody is saying dut isn’t better you dumbass mongrel. But dut is a final resort, it’s better to start off with fin.

A bluepiller would tell you to avoid all these chemicals altogether and just go bald.

Finasteride (and by extension dutasteride) is the medicine of chads. Finasteride works in the overwhelming majority of balding men.

You clearly don't know what u're talking about when you say dut is a final resort.
More like fin is an option for uneducated retarded normies like you that discovered meds 2 days ago.
Fin and dut have same side effect and arguably dut have even less sides.

 

[AbuSdanteet]

You clearly don't know what u're talking about when you say dut is a final resort.
More like fin is an option for uneducated retarded normies like you that discovered meds 2 days ago.
Fin and dut have same side effect and arguably dut have even less sides.

No reason to cut all that dht out with dut if fin works perfectly for you. And dut arguably increases sides more because it blocks more dht.

Also, finasteride works far quicker than dutasteride.

At the end of the day, both block dht. Both work. No use arguing

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

I cant get a job, I could tutor kids but naaaah

Yeah that sounds fucked

 

[Copercel]

No reason to cut all that dht out with dut if fin works perfectly for you. And dut arguably increases sides more because it blocks more dht.

Only reason to use fin over dut is because dut is pricier, other than that, dut mogs.
I already explained to you yesterday that both have the same side effects profile:

After a certain amount of DHT is blocked, the side effects are plateau.

This study shows that dut and fin have no difference in their side effects profile (so you better just take dut):

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@jeff1234 @kazama @idkmanimao

 

[AbuSdanteet]

Only reason to use fin over dut is because dut is pricier, other than that, dut mogs.
I already explained to you yesterday that both have the same side effects profile:

Fin also works quicker