Gymmaxxing might NOT be COPE for ugly guys.

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

Most guys who looksmax want to achieve AChad archetype. But no one thinks anout the Hypermasculine archetype where u look roided have beard are lean and good heighr. There was a wheat waffles video where he explained this. 20 percent of 22plus year old women prefer Hypermasculine above all archetypes and 80 percent prefer chads. But the gist is that there are almost NO hypermasculine good looking guys in that age bracket. So what these girls do is stay single. The demand is way higher than the supply for hyoermascline guys so the chance that you will bag a hottie is way higher than going down the Chad archetype route which most guys are doing so there is plenty of supply and the market gets oversaturated. Like most hotties Ive seen dont date an some prettyboy with twig physique. The more make up she wears the more likely she will more get attracted by body. Sometimes they dint even look at face as long as it is above LTN. Like genuinely body halo is key for these subset of women. 22 plus year old and bimbo/make up maxxed. By ignoring this fact ur just bringing ur self in a disadvantage. U will have may more supply of girls if u chose hypermasculine route. Ofc u can do both but that is harder. U have to maintain ur hairline and shiii.

@Tigermoggerlol @Saint Casanova @Glorious King @Sink @hasba1feuj @fashioncel

 

[aidenltn17]

a good body for men can only add,not create.

 

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

a good body for men can only add,not create.

Look, in extreme cases I agree with you like shittiest frame and shittiest height like bottom 20 percent is over tier. I am talking about majority

 

[aidenltn17]

Look, in extreme cases I agree with you like shittiest frame and shittiest height like bottom 20 percent is over tier. I am talking about majority

I am bottom 20% so i cant cope with gym . ur right tho to an extent

 

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

I am bottom 20% so i cant cope with gym . ur right tho to an extent

Then maximize face and fraud height that is only thing u can do and get lean

 

[aidenltn17]

Then maximize face and fraud height that is only thing u can do and get lean

ya ofc

 

[notagreycell]

Most guys who looksmax want to achieve AChad archetype. But no one thinks anout the Hypermasculine archetype where u look roided have beard are lean and good heighr. There was a wheat waffles video where he explained this. 20 percent of 22plus year old women prefer Hypermasculine above all archetypes and 80 percent prefer chads. But the gist is that there are almost NO hypermasculine good looking guys in that age bracket. So what these girls do is stay single. The demand is way higher than the supply for hyoermascline guys so the chance that you will bag a hottie is way higher than going down the Chad archetype route which most guys are doing so there is plenty of supply and the market gets oversaturated. Like most hotties Ive seen dont date an some prettyboy with twig physique. The more make up she wears the more likely she will more get attracted by body. Sometimes they dint even look at face as long as it is above LTN. Like genuinely body halo is key for these subset of women. 22 plus year old and bimbo/make up maxxed. By ignoring this fact ur just bringing ur self in a disadvantage. U will have may more supply of girls if u chose hypermasculine route. Ofc u can do both but that is harder. U have to maintain ur hairline and shiii.

@Tigermoggerlol @Saint Casanova @Glorious King @Sink @hasba1feuj @fashioncel

Its good but most gymcels that join because of their shitty face or height dont know what to do like if you are a framcel you shouldn't train traps a lot and they sometimes get to big and have overdeveloped muscles which look like shit the best things to max out at the gym neck muscles for a stronger and better looking jaw and leanmaxx

 

[notagreycell]

Most guys who looksmax want to achieve AChad archetype. But no one thinks anout the Hypermasculine archetype where u look roided have beard are lean and good heighr. There was a wheat waffles video where he explained this. 20 percent of 22plus year old women prefer Hypermasculine above all archetypes and 80 percent prefer chads. But the gist is that there are almost NO hypermasculine good looking guys in that age bracket. So what these girls do is stay single. The demand is way higher than the supply for hyoermascline guys so the chance that you will bag a hottie is way higher than going down the Chad archetype route which most guys are doing so there is plenty of supply and the market gets oversaturated. Like most hotties Ive seen dont date an some prettyboy with twig physique. The more make up she wears the more likely she will more get attracted by body. Sometimes they dint even look at face as long as it is above LTN. Like genuinely body halo is key for these subset of women. 22 plus year old and bimbo/make up maxxed. By ignoring this fact ur just bringing ur self in a disadvantage. U will have may more supply of girls if u chose hypermasculine route. Ofc u can do both but that is harder. U have to maintain ur hairline and shiii.

@Tigermoggerlol @Saint Casanova @Glorious King @Sink @hasba1feuj @fashioncel

Body halo exists if you look aesthetic and have a good physique that actually attracts both genders and not just male gaze

 

[Glorious King]

Body halo exists if you look aesthetic and have a good physique that actually attracts both genders and not just male gaze

yea this guy gets it

 

[notagreycell]

yea this guy gets it

Love the energy sir

 

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

Its good but most gymcels that join because of their shitty face or height dont know what to do like if you are a framcel you shouldn't train traps a lot and they sometimes get to big and have overdeveloped muscles which look like shit the best things to max out at the gym neck muscles for a stronger and better looking jaw and leanmaxx

Lowkey neck is most important and then abs

 

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

Body halo exists if you look aesthetic and have a good physique that actually attracts both genders and not just male gaze

Just lean and big is hypermasculine not some puffy 20bf roided guy

 

[notagreycell]

Lowkey neck is most important and then abs

Neck mogs abs its underappreciated I have bad neck support if i train my neck it will save my mandible abs matter the most in summer because that's when you are gonna be shirtless the most because you are gonna swim

 

[jaaba]

Most guys who looksmax want to achieve AChad archetype. But no one thinks anout the Hypermasculine archetype where u look roided have beard are lean and good heighr. There was a wheat waffles video where he explained this. 20 percent of 22plus year old women prefer Hypermasculine above all archetypes and 80 percent prefer chads. But the gist is that there are almost NO hypermasculine good looking guys in that age bracket. So what these girls do is stay single. The demand is way higher than the supply for hyoermascline guys so the chance that you will bag a hottie is way higher than going down the Chad archetype route which most guys are doing so there is plenty of supply and the market gets oversaturated. Like most hotties Ive seen dont date an some prettyboy with twig physique. The more make up she wears the more likely she will more get attracted by body. Sometimes they dint even look at face as long as it is above LTN. Like genuinely body halo is key for these subset of women. 22 plus year old and bimbo/make up maxxed. By ignoring this fact ur just bringing ur self in a disadvantage. U will have may more supply of girls if u chose hypermasculine route. Ofc u can do both but that is harder. U have to maintain ur hairline and shiii.

@Tigermoggerlol @Saint Casanova @Glorious King @Sink @hasba1feuj @fashioncel

The body halo can exist but not to that extent many men are lead to believe. Even then, the improvements you can make to this small ish body halo are quite limited because you can’t really change your frame. Also, way too many dudes get too big (too big isn’t just bodybuilders, too much muscle is a lower threshold than people claim)

 

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

The body halo can exist but not to that extent many men are lead to believe. Even then, the improvements you can make to this small ish body halo are quite limited because you can’t really change your frame. Also, way too many dudes get too big (too big isn’t just bodybuilders, too much muscle is a lower threshold than people claim)

Nah women who prefer hypermasculine want beefy muscles. If u are talking about girls who prefer chad than a tad less muscle is better. I am here talking about 20 percent of women. Bodybuilder big is ideal

 

[jaaba]

Nah women who prefer hypermasculine want beefy muscles. If u are talking about girls who prefer chad than a tad less muscle is better. I am here talking about 20 percent of women. Bodybuilder big is ideal

Most girls don’t prefer hyper masculine, I think niching down is a very overrated concept

 

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

Most girls don’t prefer hyper masculine, I think niching down is a very overrated concept

Buddy. I just said in the thread that a minority wants a lot of muscle and since there almost no men who have that these men have a lot of options. Niching down might be smart here fir certain guys

 

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

Most girls don’t prefer hyper masculine, I think niching down is a very overrated concept

“Underrated”

 

[egyptiansub5]

Most guys who looksmax want to achieve AChad archetype. But no one thinks anout the Hypermasculine archetype where u look roided have beard are lean and good heighr. There was a wheat waffles video where he explained this. 20 percent of 22plus year old women prefer Hypermasculine above all archetypes and 80 percent prefer chads. But the gist is that there are almost NO hypermasculine good looking guys in that age bracket. So what these girls do is stay single. The demand is way higher than the supply for hyoermascline guys so the chance that you will bag a hottie is way higher than going down the Chad archetype route which most guys are doing so there is plenty of supply and the market gets oversaturated. Like most hotties Ive seen dont date an some prettyboy with twig physique. The more make up she wears the more likely she will more get attracted by body. Sometimes they dint even look at face as long as it is above LTN. Like genuinely body halo is key for these subset of women. 22 plus year old and bimbo/make up maxxed. By ignoring this fact ur just bringing ur self in a disadvantage. U will have may more supply of girls if u chose hypermasculine route. Ofc u can do both but that is harder. U have to maintain ur hairline and shiii.

@Tigermoggerlol @Saint Casanova @Glorious King @Sink @hasba1feuj @fashioncel

only good if ur mtn+ and 5’10+

 

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

Most girls don’t prefer hyper masculine, I think niching down is a very overrated concept

Even wheat talked about forums like these only focusng in face and height. While missing out in the real mogging feature which is physique. And size

 

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

only good if ur mtn+ and 5’10+

So average guy jfl

 

[JohnnyRamone]

The big three metrics to male looks are height, face and physique. Of the three, your physique is the one that’s the most in your control. Being physically fit can only ever be a benefit to your life. It’s never a cope.

 

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

only good if ur mtn+ and 5’10+

Im just saying most ppl here think fafe and height are everything. Wheat rated faceiq high but not really premium cuz of his twig physique. If he actually gymmaxxed and not focus on staying lean and carnivore diet. He wouldbe a true chad

 

[egyptiansub5]

So average guy jfl

nah avg is 5’7 and ltn but yea if u think thats avg then the avg guy

 

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

The big three metrics to male looks are height, face and physique. Of the three, your physique is the one that’s the most in your control. Being physically fit can only ever be a benefit to your life. It’s never a cope.

Having top tier physique can carry the other two.

 

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

nah avg is 5’7 and ltn but yea if u think thats avg then the avg guy

I meant the west not global. Global has many short asians

 

[egyptiansub5]

Im just saying most ppl here think fafe and height are everything. Wheat rated faceiq high but not really premium cuz of his twig physique. If he actually gymmaxxed and not focus on staying lean and carnivore diet. He wouldbe a true chad

obv gym maxxing is a big halo buy not being a gym cel manlet

 

[jaaba]

Buddy. I just said in the thread that a minority wants a lot of muscle and since there almost no men who have that these men have a lot of options. Niching down might be smart here fir certain guys

I know how supply and demand works pal. Improving your looks shouldn’t just be about getting women because looks dictate how everyone treats you; if you niche down then you will not be treated as well as you would in general if you just stayed semi basic but still looksmaxed to be a better version of basic.

If you leaned into the hyper masculine niche then you’d likely have worse chances at job interviews or day to day interactions because people would perceive you a lot differently in comparison to just an ordinary good looking guy

 

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

obv gym maxxing is a big halo buy not being a gym cel manlet

Even manlet with bodybuilder physique can get u girls. It is about the niche. Obv not as good as being good height but still

 

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

I know how supply and demand works pal. Improving your looks shouldn’t just be about getting women because looks dictate how everyone treats you; if you niche down then you will not be treated as well as you would in general if you just stayed semi basic but still looksmaxed to be a better version of basic.

If you leaned into the hyper masculine niche then you’d likely have worse chances at job interviews or day to day interactions because people would perceive you a lot differently in comparison to just an ordinary good looking guy

Yeah I know that wheat also said that but who cares we want pussy. Oussy has priority

 

[FutureSlayer]

roiding has high ROI even for prettyboys, you need to be maniacal and have insane genetics to grow like a bodybuilder, that's simply not going to happen

 

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

I know how supply and demand works pal. Improving your looks shouldn’t just be about getting women because looks dictate how everyone treats you; if you niche down then you will not be treated as well as you would in general if you just stayed semi basic but still looksmaxed to be a better version of basic.

If you leaned into the hyper masculine niche then you’d likely have worse chances at job interviews or day to day interactions because people would perceive you a lot differently in comparison to just an ordinary good looking guy

Also it is way harder for guys to be chad than to be hypermasculine. Chad needs a lot of good facial genes. Hypermasculine u just need to roid and minox on beard

 

[jaaba]

Even wheat talked about forums like these only focusng in face and height. While missing out in the real mogging feature which is physique. And size

Perceived size/presence is 90% height+frame

Even the largest bodybuilders aren’t perceived as big men if they aren’t 5’9+, they just look stubby almost built like a thumb

 

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

roiding has high ROI even for prettyboys, you need to be maniacal and have insane genetics to grow like a bodybuilder, that's simply not going to happen

Yeah roids are very overrated in terms of size change. U need huge dosages to actually grow like a bodybuilder. In best case u just look jacked and better. If u dont bloat hard u will just look aesthetic not hulk

 

[jaaba]

Also it is way harder for guys to be chad than to be hypermasculine. Chad needs a lot of good facial genes. Hypermasculine u just need to roid and minox on beard

Hyper masculine is greatly dependent on bones not just muscle, chads have more masculine features than so called “hyper masc” men if they don’t have the bones to show for it

 

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

Perceived size/presence is 90% height+frame

Even the largest bodybuilders aren’t perceived as big men if they aren’t 5’9+, they just look stubby almost built like a thumb

Frame wont do shit is u dont have the muscles. Id say some tall guy 6ft4 with good frame does not mog a 5ft9 guy who has insane v taper and shoulders. Aesthetic and big >>>> stick for 20 percent of women

 

[FutureSlayer]

Yeah roids are very overrated in terms of size change. U need huge dosages to actually grow like a bodybuilder. In best case u just look jacked and better. If u dont bloat hard u will just look aesthetic not hulk

Provided you don't change your diet and train like a beast you'll simply have more muscle quality, that's it. Look at Clav, he's filled up with test and low dose tren and still looks dyel

 

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

Hyper masculine is greatly dependent on bones not just muscle, chads have more masculine features than so called “hyper masc” men if they don’t have the bones to show for it

If you are on test u will get more masculine fafe and will look leaner in the face. If u have shit jaw u can grow beard and still be oerceived hyper masc

 

[FutureSlayer]

This Shizzy guy is the epitome of the hypermasc gl early 20s mogger archetype you're talking about

 

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

Hyper masculine is greatly dependent on bones not just muscle, chads have more masculine features than so called “hyper masc” men if they don’t have the bones to show for it

If this guy didnt roid it would be over for him

 

[xzylecrey]

Are you saying denis cyplenkov and dr mike have more female appeal than prettyboy / cutecell ???

 

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

Are you saying denis cyplenkov and dr mike have more female appeal than prettyboy / cutecell ???

Yes

 

[xzylecrey]

Yes

Ty for lmk

 

[Clav's Baseball Cup]

Body halo does exist. It’s called clavicle width and genetic muscle belly factors. If you have good genes you will look optimal without gymming anyway and just being semi active. Gym has and always will be giga cope.

 

[Sink]

a good body can't really do anything bad for you.
i've never understood why mfs say that gymmaxxing is cope

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Most guys who looksmax want to achieve AChad archetype. But no one thinks anout the Hypermasculine archetype where u look roided have beard are lean and good heighr. There was a wheat waffles video where he explained this. 20 percent of 22plus year old women prefer Hypermasculine above all archetypes and 80 percent prefer chads. But the gist is that there are almost NO hypermasculine good looking guys in that age bracket. So what these girls do is stay single. The demand is way higher than the supply for hyoermascline guys so the chance that you will bag a hottie is way higher than going down the Chad archetype route which most guys are doing so there is plenty of supply and the market gets oversaturated. Like most hotties Ive seen dont date an some prettyboy with twig physique. The more make up she wears the more likely she will more get attracted by body. Sometimes they dint even look at face as long as it is above LTN. Like genuinely body halo is key for these subset of women. 22 plus year old and bimbo/make up maxxed. By ignoring this fact ur just bringing ur self in a disadvantage. U will have may more supply of girls if u chose hypermasculine route. Ofc u can do both but that is harder. U have to maintain ur hairline and shiii.

@Tigermoggerlol @Saint Casanova @Glorious King @Sink @hasba1feuj @fashioncel

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