H1B fees kicks off a wave of offshoring jobs

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I've talked about how the company I work at rn was already making plans to offshore work and the shift is going on in full swing


Apparently even other companies are doing this. They are trying to move all teams abroad than bring them to the US so in other words it changes nothing





 
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will the wages be similar then it is a steal for it bros ppp in india is very low
 
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will the wages be similar then it is a steal for it bros ppp in india is very low
In my company yes maybe slightly in a few roles which had some variable components but not by a lot.
 
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In my company yes maybe slightly in a few roles which had some variable components but not by a lot.
then it is better imagine not having to spend on overpriced american bs and still having money, only downside is no vite wumanz:cautious:
 
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I've talked about how the company I work at rn was already making plans to offshore work and the shift is going on in full swing

Apparently even other companies are doing this. They are trying to move all teams abroad than bring them to the US so in other words it changes nothing
It changes everything. It allows the high-tech companies to grow even further and stay competitive, while not eroding the ethnic make-up of the country.

Should be great for the former H1Bs too, as they'll get an American salary in their own country, which gives them a much larger purchasing power.
 
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It changes everything. It allows the high-tech companies to grow even further and stay competitive, while not eroding the ethnic make-up of the country.
Americans will have to compete with rest of the world for the same jobs tho.
 
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Americans will have to compete with rest of the world for the same jobs tho.
They already did, lol. Tech is filled with overseas talent.

This will also give the tradies who can't work remotely a significant salary increase.
 
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They already did, lol. Tech is filled with overseas talent.
Yes but they atleast had the safety net of a VISA and work restrictions on foreign employees. Offshoring work removes even those safeguards.
 
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Decent information but Iโ€™m 17 and I donโ€™t work or live in US.
 
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Decent information but Iโ€™m 17 and I donโ€™t work or live in US.
Literally nobody asked.

I've talked about how the company I work at rn was already making plans to offshore work and the shift is going on in full swing




Apparently even other companies are doing this. They are trying to move all teams abroad than bring them to the US so in other words it changes nothing






I'm surprised so many of these companies are able to afford the 100k
 
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100k is nothing for big tech. You remember Google Stadia? The cloud gaming service. They still kept teams on payroll on maintaining infrastructure, handling stuff and fulfilling contractual partners sinking millions of dollars every month on a discontinued project from 3 years ago.


Literally nobody asked.


I'm surprised so many of these companies are able to afford the 100k
 
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Yes but they atleast had the safety net of a VISA and work restrictions on foreign employees. Offshoring work removes even those safeguards.
True, with the caveat that the entire visa and work restrictions system has been corrupted and abused for at least a decade, and everyone knows it.

What this will actually change is something you noticed yourself - until now, American companies would rather sponsor an H1B with a couple of years of work experience than to train one up themselves.

The big players will outsource a significant part of their tech divisions, while the smaller ones and start-ups, who can't just create an offshore office, will have to train up new graduates themselves, and thus make it easier for Americans to get a foot into the door. Ones the entry positions have been trained, they'll have a leg up on all foreign talent.
 
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I'm interested to learn what you think of the shift towards offshoring these jobs, OP? You didn't seem to be one of these self-hating Indians, but I'd assume you'd still prefer to work overseas, even if you had a much larger purchasing power with an American salary, while living in your home country.
 
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I've talked about how the company I work at rn was already making plans to offshore work and the shift is going on in full swing




Apparently even other companies are doing this. They are trying to move all teams abroad than bring them to the US so in other words it changes nothing






JFL at "maga crying"

fucking curry saying that americans should be outsourcing jobs for cheaper to random fucking curries who are basically slaves and have to accept every order or be kicked out.

U also have niggas crying about ICE? Guys we genually have a retard issue in the west in where when people do their fucking job, kick out people who came here illegally, because its "inhumane" :lul::lul::lul:
 
I'm interested to learn what you think of the shift towards offshoring these jobs, OP? You didn't seem to be one of these self-hating Indians, but I'd assume you'd still prefer to work overseas, even if you had a much larger purchasing power with an American salary, while living in your home country.

I don't really care tbh. I just want a decent job but I also But I don't believe in coping with imaginary self pride ideals. Do whatever you want and do. Your well being and your family always comes first not this fugazee fugazee shit.
 
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I've talked about how the company I work at rn was already making plans to offshore work and the shift is going on in full swing




Apparently even other companies are doing this. They are trying to move all teams abroad than bring them to the US so in other words it changes nothing






Ok good take them?

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Plenty of skilled Americans who can do the job if u just pay them right. Goes for most jobs in America. Trying to tell the country that has stayed on top of the world for almost 2 centuries now through a majority european country that they need curries to not be overtaken by china is insulting.
 
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JFL at "maga crying"

fucking curry saying that americans should be outsourcing jobs for cheaper to random fucking curries who are basically slaves and have to accept every order or be kicked out.
U also have niggas crying about ICE? Guys we genually have a retard issue in the west in where when people do their fucking job, kick out people who came here illegally, because its "inhumane" :lul::lul::lul:
See this is exactly the kind of nigga i was talking about the other day @jeoyw9192
 
See this is exactly the kind of nigga i was talking about the other day @jeoyw9192
dude ur not entitled to shit? what the fuck is wrong with these ethnics?

Then they'll be like, if ur a yt boy, and ur an incel "Ur own race doesnt claim u" , same rehab room bull shit too. Dont fall for this ragebait guys. Dont accept replacement and fucking retarded curries being entitled to your job. Sure fucking work here but when ur told to fuck off, dont btich about it and fuck off

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dude ur not entitled to shit? what the fuck is wrong with these ethnics?

Then they'll be like, if ur a yt boy, and ur an incel "Ur own race doesnt claim u" , same rehab room bull shit too. Dont fall for this ragebait guys. Dont accept replacement and fucking retarded curries being entitled to your job. Sure fucking work here but when ur told to fuck off, dont btich about it and fuck off

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What entitlement?! I am just acting on my own self interest. And anyone in my place would too.
 
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What entitlement?! I am just acting on my own self interest. And anyone in my place would too.
I agree but ur politicizing it. Saying "muh maga retards", i agree i'd do the same in ur position and would be mad if my h1b was getting cancelled or some shit. Ur talking from a spot of entitlement as if ur entitled to our jobs lol.

Im sorry but if u cant understand the concern or reasoning why H1B is being cancelled ur retarded. Ur putting out lies and mainstream media slop shit about "muh the indians will now be outsourced somewhere else!!!". As if the US is gonna fall behind or collapse if they dont have H1B. No thats not the case.

If anything americans are more skilled and have higher IQ than indians, ur entire existence is to fill the pockets of rich billionaire oligarchs.
 
Your well being and your family always comes first not this fugazee fugazee shit.
based, bro. as always.
I just want a decent job
One problem this entire shift brings along could be that you're career prospects could be capped at some point, as none of the companies will hire an executive position from an offshore coding office, but that's for your 30s and 40s to worry about.
 
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dude ur not entitled to shit? what the fuck is wrong with these ethnics?

Then they'll be like, if ur a yt boy, and ur an incel "Ur own race doesnt claim u" , same rehab room bull shit too. Dont fall for this ragebait guys. Dont accept replacement and fucking retarded curries being entitled to your job. Sure fucking work here but when ur told to fuck off, dont btich about it and fuck off

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Yeah and if u seethe and whine all day about muh immigrants taking my precious jobs that I totally worked hard for ur not entitled to shit either :lul::lul: @Jason Voorhees
 
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Yeah and if u seethe and whine all day about muh immigrants ur not entitled to shit either :lul::lul: @Jason Voorhees
Yes i am entitled to shit, its my country and people and we deserve fair pay instead of billionaires using global loopholes to basically have good goyim slaves who wont contest them at all, will accept lower pay. Thats how u make a fucking oligarchy.

Muh just accept ur country becoming an oligarchy and own nothing and be happy theory
 
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I agree but ur politicizing it. Saying "muh maga retards", i agree i'd do the same in ur position and would be mad if my h1b was getting cancelled or some shit. Ur talking from a spot of entitlement as if ur entitled to our jobs lol.

Im sorry but if u cant understand the concern or reasoning why H1B is being cancelled ur retarded. Ur putting out lies and mainstream media slop shit about "muh the indians will now be outsourced somewhere else!!!". As if the US is gonna fall behind or collapse if they dont have H1B. No thats not the case.
I never said it's going to collapse but 70% of foreign workers in the silicon valley is foreign workers and outsourcing is happening. I have literally been saying this for months well before all the H1B fees even got announced and other companies also seem to be doing the same thing.
If anything americans are more skilled and have higher IQ than indians, ur entire existence is to fill the pockets of rich billionaire oligarchs.
You can say that for literally any job. Your just a cog in the machine. You only exist to full thr pockets of the elite.
 
Yes i am entitled to shit, its my country and people and we deserve fair pay instead of billionaires using global loopholes to basically have good goyim slaves who wont contest them at all, will accept lower pay. Thats how u make a fucking oligarchy.

Muh just accept ur country becoming an oligarchy and own nothing and be happy theory
Ur not. Maybe instead of seething all day actually learn important things (whether it's tech, etc). A 4.0 GPA isn't gonna cut it Johnny
 
Yeah and if u seethe and whine all day about muh immigrants taking my precious jobs that I totally worked hard for ur not entitled to shit either :lul::lul: @Jason Voorhees
Lol this shit is so retarded. Im a european migrant to the UK, if the UK kicks me out any moment, NONE of us will throw a fit. Yes we work here cuz the pay and opportunity is good, but its up to the UK public to vote and get a government to get antimigration policy.

Your a foreigner worker, the US people democratically voted in the 2024 election to get you the fuck out. What is so confusing to you?
 
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Ur not. Maybe instead of seething all day actually learn important things (whether it's tech, etc). A 4.0 GPA isn't gonna cut it Johnny
@FiendFiend isn't in the IT field I think. He said he was a postman for the British Royal Mail
 
I never said it's going to collapse but 70% of foreign workers in the silicon valley is foreign workers and outsourcing is happening. I have literally been saying this for months well before all the H1B fees even got announced and other companies also seem to be doing the same thing.

You can say that for literally any job. Your just a cog in the machine. You only exist to full thr pockets of the elite.
No thats fucking cope.

Muh for any job. No this is very very different. As I said, your literally incapable and on the behest of big CEOs cuz ur a fucking curry who doesnt wanna go back to india and has no other prospect of earning money like this, ur also willing to take a lower wage.

I mean fuck bro? Its just natural economy and natural selection right? the person whos willing to do the work the cheapest is the best worker i guess? Ok then when we fucking came to India and fucking colonized u then I guess it was just "natural selection" and bussinesses being bussiness.

U do realize India was colonized by a company. U fucking retard
 
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Lol this shit is so retarded. Im a european migrant to the UK, if the UK kicks me out any moment, NONE of us will throw a fit. Yes we work here cuz the pay and opportunity is good, but its up to the UK public to vote and get a government to get antimigration policy.

Your a foreigner worker, the US people democratically voted in the 2024 election to get you the fuck out. What is so confusing to you
Interestingly enough I was born here actually. Also are u that much of a dumbass to realize the government and globalists work hand in hand, especially in the US? The same quite literally applies in both of ur guys' cases.

Now quit seething like a good little chud, and deliver your mail Johnny boy:feelswah:
 
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No thats fucking cope.

Muh for any job. No this is very very different. As I said, your literally incapable and on the behest of big CEOs cuz ur a fucking curry who doesnt wanna go back to india and has no other prospect of earning money like this, ur also willing to take a lower wage.

I mean fuck bro? Its just natural economy and natural selection right? the person whos willing to do the work the cheapest is the best worker i guess? Ok then when we fucking came to India and fucking colonized u then I guess it was just "natural selection" and bussinesses being bussiness.

U do realize India was colonized by a company. U fucking retard
you're seething hard. Don't hate the player, hate the game. If you want to direct your anger towards something, choose the people responsible for opening the flood gates to increase shareholder value, not OP, who's working hard to make it in this world
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@FiendFiend isn't in the IT field I think. He said he was a postman for the British Royal Mail
i got good grades btw i just dont wanna study i dont enjoy doing that shit.

Lmfao the excuses for why brits or americans get worser grades than asians is so retarded. Dude u do realize ofc the asians are gonna tryhard the tests they dont wanna be sent back?

Imagine schedueling a race, u tell 3 of the guys, yeah nah the prize is 100$ if u win, u tell 1 guy the prize if he wins is 1k $, and u tell the last guy that if he loses hes getting publically executed.

Who do u think is gonna win? If ur cornered into these situations doesnt matter whos the best athletically gifted the guy who is gonna get publically executed if he loses is gonna take 10000x the tme preparing.
 
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you're seething hard. Don't hate the player, hate the game. If you want to direct your anger towards something, choose the people responsible for opened the flood gates to increase shareholder value, not OP who's working hard to make it in this world
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"muh hate the game"

i guess u should just hate the game when we came over and colonized u. Sorry bro I was just workign for the east india company. Hate the company not me brah I was just the player
 
"muh hate the game"

i guess u should just hate the game when we came over and colonized u. Sorry bro I was just workign for the east india company. Hate the company not me brah I was just the player
you didn't colonize shit, you slavic subhuman from some good-for-nothing peasant country.
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Wah wah I don't want to study or work hard and want to cry all day :feelswah::lul:.dont steal my job @Jason Voorhees please sir
 
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Interestingly enough I was born here actually. Also are u that much of a dumbass to realize the government and globalists work hand in hand, especially in the US? The same quite literally applies in both of ur guys' cases.

Now quit seething like a good little chud, and deliver your mail Johnny boy:feelswah:
Some fucking curry born in the US "muh trust me saar im american" fuck me dude :lul::lul::lul:

I never claimed some goy slop shit about "globalists" im just saying that h1b is literally picking out the bottom of the barrel of the world and giving them a chance to get a job and be a good goy or get sent back to their shithole.

That is exploitation, by ur currycel standards, being exploited in the US doesnt sound as bad as living in India but it doesnt change the fact its exploitation.
 
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Wah wah I don't want to study or work hard and want to cry all day :feelswah::lul:.dont steal my job @Jason Voorhees please sir
LOL this cope of "study or work hard" nigga, I dont want ur job, I dont like IT. Im saying if there are citizens who been here longer than u they should have priority of getting said job. Because its exploitation, just cuz it doesnt seem like exploitation to u because of the vast income inequality between the average indian and american, it still is exploitation by western standards.

Imagine literally supporting modern slave labour LOL.

This is the equivilant of bringing a nigger from the congo who sleeps 2 hours a day, mines gold for 10$ a month, then flying him over to australias to be a miner to work 16 hours a day and get 8 hours of sleep, but recieve 800$ a day, and a room to sleep in instead of sleeping on the floor, and him saying "hows this exploitation?".
 
you didn't colonize shit, you slavic subhuman from some good-for-nothing peasant country.
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Im not even msotly slavic, im mostly danish, part german then slavic
 
LOL this cope of "study or work hard" nigga, I dont want ur job, I dont like IT. Im saying if there are citizens who been here longer than u they should have priority of getting said job. Because its exploitation, just cuz it doesnt seem like exploitation to u because of the vast income inequality between the average indian and american, it still is exploitation by western standards.

Imagine literally supporting modern slave labour LOL.

This is the equivilant of bringing a nigger from the congo who sleeps 2 hours a day, mines gold for 10$ a month, then flying him over to australias to be a miner to work 16 hours a day and get 8 hours of sleep, but recieve 800$ a day, and a room to sleep in instead of sleeping on the floor, and him saying "hows this exploitation?".
If it's exploitation why are u seething about people like @Jason Voorhees instead of the government/companies employing such expolitation
 
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you didn't colonize shit, you slavic subhuman from some good-for-nothing peasant country.
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i know im speaking in perspective of the british. These curries shouldnt bitch about "muh saar its natural selection and free market" cuz i guess it was the free market that colonized their fuck ass country
 
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If it's exploitation why are u seething about people like @Jason Voorhees instead of the government/companies employing such expolitation
Cuz the exploitation is literally ruining the lives of native people born here. Its wrong?

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Cuz the exploitation is literally ruining the lives of native people born here. Its wrong?

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Are u a fucking dumbass? How are the people coming responsible by the same logic u used above. Why can't u deliver mail like a good little postman back in Europe?
 
Are u a fucking dumbass? How are the people coming responsible by the same logic u used above. Why can't u deliver mail like a good little postman back in Europe?
lol america is a country of european settlers who built shit when there was nothing there, if u curries wanna move to alaska and build some shit there be my guest. But ur already on developed , conquered , settled land and are just bleeding opportunity dry and making rich billionaires richer and exploiting workers.
 
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lol america is a country of european settlers who built shit when there was nothing there, if u curries wanna move to alaska and build some shit there be my guest. But ur already on developed , conquered , settled land and are just bleeding opportunity dry and making rich billionaires richer and exploiting workers.
I dont think i am stealing anyoneโ€™s job. My role wasnโ€™t replacing anybody it was sitting empty till I showed up. My boss was desperate and there was vacancy for my role for like 7 months. Same goes for my friends in cybersecurity, AI, networking, itโ€™s not just my story thereโ€™s solid data behind this. According to the Stack Overflow Developer Survey, around 85% of hiring managers said they're struggling to fill DevOps and infra automation roles. In tech there are many mission critical high specialized roles that require lot of niche expertise that you cant just learn easily that is not easily found locally so they have to go global. Ask anyone in tech this is common

Now, coming to the immigrants undercutting wages point. I dont think that apply to high-skill tech jobs. H1B visa comes with strict rules. I have to be paid the prevailing wage. This is a requirement means I have to be paid the same as my American teammates. Even USCIS data shows 66% of H-1Bs went to tech jobs last year averaging around $120K.

Companies aren't hiring people like me to save a few bucks they hire because if something critical infrastructure fail it is finished. Remember the 2021 AWS outage. That thing cost $150 million an hour for companies. Multiple companies lost hundreds of millions of dollars. Billions of dollars lost overnight

The "immigrants stealing jobs and companies paying peanuts" thing applies more in blue-collar that is also undocumented work. @jeoyw9192
 
Are u a fucking dumbass? How are the people coming responsible by the same logic u used above. Why can't u deliver mail like a good little postman back in Europe?
i dont live in the US. I live in europe.

Preferably the US should take care of the people in the US for multiple generations, african americans (not haitan dogs), native americans, white americans who been here for multiple generation, then next they can think about having a slow minority flow of migration from euorpe, , east asia, like they always historically had. Then later on they can bring in tiny amounts, literally a couple thousand max of the wealthiest foreigners.

if ur bringing in random people who dont look like the people there, who dont speak like the people there, who come from dirt poor backgrounds so are willing to be exploited or do whatever possible to make a living there, it ruins the quality of life for others.

Nigga, if west europeans arrive to America, theyre coming from similiar economic backgrounds. Same goes for east asia. Thats why the east asians dont have such a shit stigma around them as curries.
 
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I dont think i am stealing anyoneโ€™s job. My role wasnโ€™t replacing anybody it was sitting empty till I showed up. My boss was desperate and there was vacancy for my role for like 7 months. Same goes for my friends in cybersecurity, AI, networking, itโ€™s not just my story thereโ€™s solid data behind this. According to the Stack Overflow Developer Survey, around 85% of hiring managers said they're struggling to fill DevOps and infra automation roles. In tech there are many mission critical high specialized roles that require lot of niche expertise that is not easily found locally so they have to go global. Ask anyone in tech this is common

Now, coming to the immigrants undercutting wages point. I dont think that apply to high-skill tech jobs. H1B visa comes with strict rules. I have to be paid the prevailing wage. This is a requirement means I have to be paid the same as my American teammates. Even USCIS data shows 66% of H-1Bs went to tech jobs last year averaging around $120K.

Companies aren't hiring people like me to save a few bucks they hire because if something critical infrastructure fail it is finished. Remember the 2021 AWS outage. That thing cost $150 million an hour for companies. Multiple companies lost hundreds of millions of dollars. Billions of dollars lost overnight. I've done 3 a.m. Docker debugging calls, pulled all nighters.

The "immigrants stealing jobs and companies paying peanuts" thing applies more in blue-collar that is also undocumented work. @jeoyw9192
Trust me u are. Do u even know what a h1b is? Yes its 120k, but the jobs literally PAY more than that, and the contracts are less strict normally. Is china outsourcing indians? No? Maybe to u, a person who is from a third world shithole, 120k for an IT job at a big firm sounds like heaven, and even if the contract has some questionable shit on it, its atleast better than been in india.

If they werent undercutting wages, there wouldnt be outrage bro trust me. Niggas arent just mad at u guys for no reason. Do u think japanese or korean migrants get the same shit as indians? Nope.

There should be basically 0 migration, from the third world, unless they are already ultra-wealthy and have their own assets. And if they move to western europe or America they should seek out for the interest of America, and Americans and identify as American. If not they can fuck off.

JFL YEAH Bro, critical infastructure requires indians. Im sure the critical infastructure in Alaska is on deaths doorstep because theres no curries there. Japans infastructure is on the edge of collapsing too :lul::lul::lul: its not like they have had some of the fastest internet and network infastructure in the world despite having like no migrants.

Fuck me dude. This is my point. U think ur needed, or entitled. Ur not needed or entitled, ur ancestors didnt build fuck all in America, ur not even from a similiar wealth bracket as the americans at all, u share fucking nothing in common. So if ur told to go back home, u should understand and go back home.

America is a country it isnt an idea or just a massive free market , it has people, it has ideas. BTW I am against all forms of migration globally even the white people gentirfying bali or moving abroad. This is all because of global greed. Disgusting places like dubai that are tax havens etc.

Its just all globalist greed and the impacts of globalism. As an individual sure, move to bali, move to the US if ur a curry, but dont throw a fit or act like ur needed or wanted by anyone in the USA. Please
 

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