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Meanwhile she is into biking, skiing etc (She's sporty) and he's a personal trainer, soon to become FireFighter. The moment he revealed he was a firefighter though her face completely changed lol. So much for the myth FireFighter was the highest SMV job to have. He is a Judo champion and been doing it for 13 years and plays the guitar.

It only runs about 10 minutes the speed-date and I've started it from the point it begins.

Both 6/10 high tier normies I would say facially and his body is on point af. I was SHOCKED at the rejection come the end



What are everyone's honest and genuine thoughts? Actually think this through before jumping; 'it's because he's sub 8'

Is it because she wants better looking or is it because they didn't have much in common? Or was his frame-control poor? Lmao
 
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I am gonna need your take on this one @Seth Walsh, I was astounded.

@alriodai @forevergymcelling

@Prettyboy and @Amnesia probably two guys more familiar with American chicks. Is she a looksist one?
 
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There is a possiblity that he isn't her type specifically. Not necessarily because they aren't looksmatched lmfao but simply because his pheno, face shape or whatever isn't what she prefers.

Also, why would any semi-successful girl want a HTN who is a firefighter when she can have another HTN around the corner who is much more high status.

But honestly maybe i'm reading too much into this and she simply didn't give a shit because she probably has way too many guys to choose from her own social circle
 
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I am gonna need your take on this one @Seth Walsh, I was astounded.

@alriodai @forevergymcelling

@Prettyboy and @Amnesia probably two guys more familiar with American chicks. Is she a looksist one?
It's because she knows anyone on a playingwithfire livestream speed date has to be a complete loser (scientifically). Also looks standards increase day by day. Sure if it was Vinnie Hacker or Sergi from Omegle who popped up, her instincts would kick in and she'd be swoon and forget she was even on the PWF channel. But it's clear she knows all of these dudes are gonna be bottom of the barrel desperate and probably all in bad situations in life with career (being NEETs) etc.

The chick is also on benzos. I can tell she's on them with 99% certainty. Clearly she just took 2mg of xanax or klonopin and probably feels self conscious even being apart of the speed dating circus. Her slurred speech pattern is resemblant of high dose benzos.

In short. She just wants it to be over with. She's not looking to go to deep into conversation with anyone or invest more than she has to. She is just fulfilling her obligation to be there since she got paid.
 
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There is a possiblity that he isn't her type specifically. Not necessarily because they aren't looksmatched lmfao but simply because his pheno, face shape or whatever isn't what she prefers.

Also, why would any semi-successful girl want a HTN who is a firefighter when she can have another HTN around the corner who is much more high status.

But honestly maybe i'm reading too much into this and she simply didn't give a shit because she probably has way too many guys to choose from her own social circle

I think it was a phenotype problem as well as her assuming he wasn't educated enough
 
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He's kind of awkward, I have the same tic when I speak to someone on webcam, touching my face and fidgeting too much. I do it way less IRL, but I need to hold myself back from touching my face quite often. I don't pimples rarely, but it's usually after I've been doing that.
 
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Also, why would any semi-successful girl want a HTN who is a firefighter when she can have another HTN around the corner who is much more high status.

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JFL is it truly this over for avg men in todays world?
 
He looks bloated. If he wasnt he wouldnt be rejected
 
It's because she knows anyone on a playingwithfire livestream speed date has to be a complete loser (scientifically). Also looks standards increase day by day. Sure if it was Vinnie Hacker or Sergi from Omegle who popped up, her instincts would kick in and she'd be swoon and forget she was even on the PWF channel. But it's clear she knows all of these dudes are gonna be bottom of the barrel desperate and probably all in bad situations in life with career (being NEETs) etc.

The chick is also on benzos. I can tell she's on them with 99% certainty. Clearly she just took 2mg of xanax or klonopin and probably feels self conscious even being apart of the speed dating circus. Her slurred speech pattern is resemblant of high dose benzos.

In short. She just wants it to be over with. She's not looking to go to deep into conversation with anyone or invest more than she has to. She is just fulfilling her obligation to be there since she got paid.

I get that but he wans't in a bad situation in life. Not at all. He was a personal trainer, soon to become firefighter and a Judo champion that had been doing it for 13 years. Since she is sporty she knows therefore that he will be down to do pretty much anything sporty with her in-terms of the outdoors.

I get the failo aspect of coming on this gimmicky PUAs speed-dating game that he's running but still man.

She's on psychedelics wtf? What is Benzos, Xanax and shit?

I get that she is probably just there for the sake of exposure and clout sijnce she is an influencer herself and even got paid too, but you'd think she'd virtue signal and lie in that case? Lol she was honest and kept it real
 
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He's kind of awkward, I have the same tic when I speak to someone on webcam, touching my face and fidgeting too much. I do it way less IRL, but I need to hold myself back from touching my face quite often. I don't pimples rarely, but it's usually after I've been doing that.
She was being honest when she said they don't have much in common. The guy is boring and male gazemaxxed. She can find 100000000000000000 of him if she opens Tinder. Unironically what girls want are non-NPC good looking guys. Personalitypill I guess? But it's just true. In conjunction with what I said before.

It's more of a physiognomy thing about how girls can predict your personality from your looks and how you present yourself in terms of style and demeanor. - That's what femalegaze is.

Malegaze is the raw looks part and it applies to guy and girls. For example some Cardi B/ Nicki Minaj with big assess flying around everywhere is Malegaze on the other side. It's not only dudes who can malegazemaxx.

Femalegaze includes the emotional side of attraction/love and is focused on more subtle things than outright good looks and sex appeal.
 
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I get that but he wans't in a bad situation in life. Not at all. He was a personal trainer, soon to become firefighter and a Judo champion that had been doing it for 13 years. Since she is sporty she knows therefore that he will be down to do pretty much anything sporty with her in-terms of the outdoors.

I get the failo aspect of coming on this gimmicky PUAs speed-dating game that he's running but still man.

She's on psychedelics wtf? What is Benzos, Xanax and shit?

I get that she is probably just there for the sake of exposure and clout sijnce she is an influencer herself and even got paid too, but you'd think she'd virtue signal and lie in that case? Lol she was honest and kept it real
Yeah she was honest and kept it real. You tend to keep it real when on benzos too.
 
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She was being honest when she said they don't have much in common. The guy is boring and male gazemaxxed. She can find 100000000000000000 of him if she opens Tinder. Unironically what girls want are non-NPC good looking guys. Personalitypill I guess? But it's just true. In conjunction with what I said before.

It's more of a physiognomy thing about how girls can predict your personality from your looks and how you present yourself in terms of style and demeanor. - That's what femalegaze is.

Malegaze is the raw looks part and it applies to guy and girls. For example some Cardi B/ Nicki Minaj with big assess flying around everywhere is Malegaze on the other side. It's not only dudes who can malegazemaxx.

Femalegaze includes the emotional side of attraction/love and is focused on more subtle things than outright good looks and sex appeal.

Was he really boring? Lol. His energy was mundane, I agree with that, but boring? Bruh. Isn't she an NPC?

Bro, he literally asked her to pull up her Instagram to show him Skiing photos and she said she didn't have any on there to show lmao. That is as NPC as it gets.

It's probably physiognomy yes, you're right, that makes more sense. You only have the 'opportunity' to develop charisma and shit when society feeds you back with positive reinforcement through your behaviour, which is framed by your appearance. This is why we'll notice Chads actually have better social skills than even decent looking normies.
 
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Was he really boring? Lol. His energy was mundane, I agree with that, but boring? Bruh. Isn't she an NPC? Bro, he literally asked her to pull up her Instagram to show him Skiing photos and she said she didn't have any on there to show lmao. That is as NPC as it gets.

It's probably physiognomy yes, you're right, that makes more sense. You only have the 'opportunity' to develop charisma and shit when society feeds you back with positive reinforcement through your behaviour, which is framed by your appearance. This is why we'll notice Chads actually have better social skills than even decent looking normies.
She just didn't like him tbh
 
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She was being honest when she said they don't have much in common. The guy is boring and male gazemaxxed. She can find 100000000000000000 of him if she opens Tinder. Unironically what girls want are non-NPC good looking guys. Personalitypill I guess? But it's just true. In conjunction with what I said before.

It's more of a physiognomy thing about how girls can predict your personality from your looks and how you present yourself in terms of style and demeanor. - That's what femalegaze is.

Malegaze is the raw looks part and it applies to guy and girls. For example some Cardi B/ Nicki Minaj with big assess flying around everywhere is Malegaze on the other side. It's not only dudes who can malegazemaxx.

Femalegaze includes the emotional side of attraction/love and is focused on more subtle things than outright good looks and sex appeal.
100% what I was about to say

He don't look bad but he don't look good enough to slay off his looks alone (which is 90% of this forum)

The problem with being blackpilled as a dude that has the same looks level as dude in OP video is that you can't show your true personnality because you think it's all about looks which is not unless you're chad level
 
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The problem with being blackpilled as a dude that has the same looks level as dude in OP video is that you can't show your true personnality because you think it's all about looks which is not unless you're chad level

I don't think that was his problem though. We have no idea if he's blackpilled or not bro lol

I don't think he was the most charismatic but he wasn't exactly boring. I am perplexed ngl

I was expecting a 'may beee' at worse
 
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She was being honest when she said they don't have much in common. The guy is boring and male gazemaxxed. She can find 100000000000000000 of him if she opens Tinder. Unironically what girls want are non-NPC good looking guys. Personalitypill I guess? But it's just true. In conjunction with what I said before.

It's more of a physiognomy thing about how girls can predict your personality from your looks and how you present yourself in terms of style and demeanor. - That's what femalegaze is.

Malegaze is the raw looks part and it applies to guy and girls. For example some Cardi B/ Nicki Minaj with big assess flying around everywhere is Malegaze on the other side. It's not only dudes who can malegazemaxx.

Femalegaze includes the emotional side of attraction/love and is focused on more subtle things than outright good looks and sex appeal.
He was presenting himself as really boring and safe, I have found that avoiding talking about myself helps a lot with girls. My ex literally said she liked me because I wouldn't pay her attention and she couldn't figure me out initially because I'd actively dodge her questions or straight up not answer. Avoid literally every single platitude you can think of when speaking to girls. It's better to say nothing than to say something really mundane.

I think he also made a mistake by coming on shirtless, the expectation was that he would be a douchebg, instead he was kind of a boring, nice guy, probably helps the local community type. Also JFL talking about dating in Romania as if that is a useful reference to an American girl who probably doesn't know that Scotland isn't a city in England.
 
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it's because he's sub 8'
Cope, before it was sub7, now sub8:soy: zoomers are even uglier than past generations, so there isn't any reasonable reason to go from "just be a 7" to "just be a 8". Htn is enough to live a decent life, i don't consider these two guys you mentioned htns but most likely mtns, they look too ogre and lack soft features like collagen and hair and their face are too long. Of course chad lives in another universe and we all know this
 
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I don't think that was his problem though. We have no idea if he's blackpilled or not bro lol

I don't think he was the most charismatic but he wasn't exactly boring. I am perplexed ngl

I was expecting a 'may beee' at worse
he's on a speed date show bro, he knows red pill youtubers like that, he 100% heard of the black pill and knows that looks somewhat matter but still cope with other shit

in terms of face i think he didn't have a longer midface, could have benefit him
 
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He acted very insecure, it turned her off and made her Pusey dry
 
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JFL at that curry who comes on after. Tatyana is literally a Russian name.
 
Cope, before it was sub7, now sub8:soy: zoomers are even uglier than past generations, so there isn't any reasonable reason to go from "just be a 7" to "just be a 8". Htn is enough to live a decent life, i don't consider these two guys you mentioned htns but most likely mtns, they look too ogre and lack soft features like collagen and hair and their face are too long. Of course chad lives in another universe and we all know this

I was saying to others to not throw around this sub 8 bullcrap nonsense

Obviously I don't believe in that shit for one minute. I know from both personal and observational experience that this is a stupid meme created by doomer culture
 
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JFL at that curry who comes on after.

Just watching that and he's hispanic and from Mexico.

You are being overexposed to curries on this shithole lmao
 
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I was saying to others to not throw around this sub 8 bullcrap nonsense

Obviously I don't believe in that shit for one minute. I know from both personal and observational experience that this is a stupid meme created by doomer culture
I agree tbh, even being a 7 is a big halo, just imagine being an 8 like pitt, a man would be treated like a god amongst mortals. And seriously that guy around the 10th minute of the video would benefit from a more compact midface tbh
 
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Just watching that and he's hispanic and from Mexico.

You are being overexposed to curries on this shithole lmao
Yes lmao.

Is she paid to be there? Who'd willingly put themselves through this awkward shit if they're not paid or looking to get laid?

EDIT: Impressed with his real time mental gymnastics saying he didn't slay cause he's tired and wanted to see himself at the worst.
 
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Must be hypergamy. I would give her face a 5.5/10 at the most. A guy with real choices wouldn't LTR her most times imo. I see a lot of these level females out there that think they deserve the world (Chadlite) however. It's one reason so many are ending up single long term after not marrying or getting divorced at a young age.
 
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ladybois and gentlemen , I present to you @the BULL-
jk man, no disrespect
 
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I'm on Chris and I can tell a rejection is coming within first 5 seconds. Brutal.
 
I'm on Chris and I can tell a rejection is coming within first 5 seconds. Brutal.

How the hell did she say yes to this guy?

He was BORING af and looks bad looool. Boy these psychedelics are fucking strong @Seth Walsh. He literally just sat there and asked her bland unrevealing questions.

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He claims to be a PUA coach lmao also
 
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How the hell did she say yes to this guy?

He was BORING af and looks bad looool. Boy these psychedelics are fucking strong @Seth Walsh. He literally just sat there and asked her bland unrevealing questions.

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He claims to be a PUA coach lmao also
My theory is she is paid to be there and she has better matches in OLD or in clubs. I think she just kind of said yes to some people not to appear like a complete bitch. I might be wrong.
 
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How the hell did she say yes to this guy?

He was BORING af and looks bad looool. Boy these psychedelics are fucking strong @Seth Walsh. He literally just sat there and asked her bland unrevealing questions.

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He looks masculine and he has good eye area. WEB CAM IS distorting his face.
 
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My theory is she is paid to be there and she has better matches in OLD or in clubs. I think she just kind of said yes to some people not to appear like a complete bitch. I might be wrong.
You're not wrong. She's just paid to be there, she doesn't give a shit about what the content is supposed to be and she's obviously not looking for a boyfriend or someone to hookup with.

"Game" is total bs. I feel bad for anyone who believes you can "run game".

Oh lemme go "RUN GAME" on this girl real quick. Fucking cringe shit man this isn't 2002, we are 20 years more advanced now. PUA is an old-school scam. I can't imagine many people fall for it anymore, that's why Alex PWF has to switch up his content and make it more ambiguous rather than just focusing on the "game" stuff solely.
 
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My theory is she is paid to be there and she has better matches in OLD or in clubs. I think she just kind of said yes to some people not to appear like a complete bitch. I might be wrong.

And he said he was connected to Alex may be also

Just a funny one to say yes to as he was SO bland that there was literally no believability in the yes.

If she was gonna virtue signal at least make the guy better than that lol
 
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You're not wrong. She's just paid to be there, she doesn't give a shit about what the content is supposed to be and she's obviously not looking for a boyfriend or someone to hookup with.

"Game" is total bs. I feel bad for anyone who believes you can "run game".

Oh lemme go "RUN GAME" on this girl real quick. Fucking cringe shit man this isn't 2002, we are 20 years more advanced now. PUA is an old-school scam. I can't imagine many people fall for it anymore, that's why Alex PWF has to switch up his content and make it more ambiguous rather than just focusing on the "game" stuff solely.

He was telling these guys they should have done this and done that and done this and done that, not realising this is just who they are as people in the real world and in order for them to be any different, they have to change fundamentally who they are as people and a lot of things can come in the way between doing that. Such as interests, social circle and IQ.

For the black dudes and no offence coz I know there are intelligent black dudes out there, it definitely seemed like IQ was the barrier.

The Romanian guy at the beginning really seemed like the only guy that had his shit together AND looked decent
 
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The Romanian guy at the beginning really seemed like the only guy that had his shit together AND looked decent
He seems clueless, he'd be better off picking up vacationing girls if he really lives in Malta.
 
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He seems clueless, he'd be better off picking up vacationing girls if he really lives in Malta.

Damn you really felt he was that bad.

He was a bit jittery but he is the one that would loosen up and do well after a couple of dates.
 
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This is also social suicide.

Imagine being one of these black guys that fucks shit up and can't find his words and it staying on the internet now for a lifetime

This shit lives with you LMAO
 
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He was telling these guys they need to do this and do that and do this and do that, not realising this is just who they are as people in the real world and in order for them to be any different, they have to change fundamentally who they are as people and a lot of things can come in the way between doing that. Such as interests, social circle and IQ.

For the black dudes and no offence coz I know there are intelligent black dudes out there, it definitely seemed like IQ was the barrier.

The Romanian guy at the beginning really seemed like the only guy that had his shit together AND looked decent
It's over for them man. It's fully over.

And they go on the speed dating thing to COPE. A lot of the black manosphere guys cope like there's no tomorrow. Talking about "leveling up" and having the "billionaire mindset" when they're just totally lost in life. I think wishful thinking is something that really clouds people's expectations. People need to be based in reality. Even the "Tyrone" slayers are still only doing well with black chicks, from what I see IRL and online. But you have people who even claim to be blackpilled who claim to be killing it with white chicks and their GAME is bringing them above and beyond. It's all brutal cope.

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That's why the tiktok and hackerpills are educational. Just go to Vinnie's IG or youtube comments and hundreds of thousands of hot white chicks are trying to contact him. And he's doing nothing. He ain't talking about "oohhh all my brothers we got this, gonna level up, muh gotta musclemaxx sex appeal max and get my game on point".

Sooner or later you realise everyone in the "manosphere" is coping. Rewatch the Looks v Game stream from November 2021 a few times or the "What is daygame" stream from 2 weeks before that and you'll realise how much of a delusion pick up artistry is.

Some people owe it to themselves to be honest. Because they ain't foolin' anyone bar themselves...
 
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This is also social suicide.

Imagine being one of these black guys that fucks shit up and can't find his words and it staying on the internet now for a lifetime

This shit lives with you LMAO
They want to pass on their genes but no girl wants their sperm (harsh reality). So they enter the circus :lul:
 
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Ngl his behaviour was shit, couldn't sit still, kept fidgeting, no smiling, no warmth, robotic voice, no emotion. His achievements are amazing though, but that's not enough in today's hypergamous hellhole.
 
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I think he gave her gymcel vibes I feel bad for him tbh
 
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Damn you really felt he was that bad.

He was a bit jittery but he is the one that would loosen up and do well after a couple of dates.
I think he picked the wrong place, talking on webcam fucking sucks unless you already know the person. To me it seems even more unnatural than cold approaching someone in the street. At least I've randomly talked to people while waiting for bus with no awkwardness, but the same thru webcam feels spastic as fuck by comparison somehow. Also staying up till 4am to talk to some plain American foid while living in Europe... what the fuck is he doing in general? There's something off about him if that is his only option or at least he is under the impression that there is nothing else. American girls are fucking dogs on average compared to girls you can see in Europe. I've worked in hostels and student accommodations, very international places with lots of Americans, and I can't think of many girls from there who I had really strong attraction to. Meanwhile girls from France (especially), Netherlands, Italy, Spain, Eastern Europe... I also got loads of 18 year old interns, and despite what age copers will say, they are receptive to guys that are older. Like 7 years older. But to get back to the main point....
To top it all off the shirtless thing was weird - is he a normie gymcel mentally? Did he really think he will passively get girls like that on a show where a girl can't act like an utter slut due to exposure? Guy probably watched some Zyzz react video from ten years ago on Omegle lol.

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There's something very off about him if you consider everything. With all of this I am not surprised at all.
 
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This is also social suicide.

Imagine being one of these black guys that fucks shit up and can't find his words and it staying on the internet now for a lifetime

This shit lives with you LMAO


Looks like someone's going to war with SmashTV
 
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Too cringe for me to make it all the way through. They are both like 95th percentile looks. She IQ mogs him. As has been mentioned he sounded medicated. Firefighter is only viewed as high status by blue collar females in US. FF is barely even a job in 2022, everything is flame retardant now, it is actually hard to light a house on fire. I don't understand the premise, she lives in US and he in Europe, both are conventionally attractive, why the fuck would they want to have some awkward cyber relationship? She is only on this webcam as a form of self promotion for her own channel.
 
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It's over for them man. It's fully over.

And they go on the speed dating thing to COPE. A lot of the black manosphere guys cope like there's no tomorrow. Talking about "leveling up" and having the "billionaire mindset" when they're just totally lost in life. I think wishful thinking is something that really clouds people's expectations. People need to be based in reality. Even the "Tyrone" slayers are still only doing well with black chicks, from what I see IRL and online. But you have people who even claim to be blackpilled who claim to be killing it with white chicks and their GAME is bringing them above and beyond. It's all brutal cope.

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That's why the tiktok and hackerpills are educational. Just go to Vinnie's IG or youtube comments and hundreds of thousands of hot white chicks are trying to contact him. And he's doing nothing. He ain't talking about "oohhh all my brothers we got this, gonna level up, muh gotta musclemaxx sex appeal max and get my game on point".

Sooner or later you realise everyone in the "manosphere" is coping. Rewatch the Looks v Game stream from November 2021 a few times or the "What is daygame" stream from 2 weeks before that and you'll realise how much of a delusion pick up artistry is.

Some people owe it to themselves to be honest. Because they ain't foolin' anyone bar themselves...

I think what you said at the end really is the essence of what is missing in a lot of these guys minds and spirits tbh and that's 'honesty'.

Whether they are deliberately deluding themselves, or lacking the sentience to feel where they stand in reality... is the question.

The way I see it is if you are not equipped and prepared for the game, WHY the fuck are you even entering the competition? You're just setting yourself up for failure and an embarrassing one at that to boot.

This one guy interviewed OnlyFans girls and goes 'they be telling me some crazy stuff'

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.... and so when she gives him a segway for interesting conversation in asking him; 'do they ever regret being on OnlyFans?' he had ABSOLUTELY nothing to answer with :ROFLMAO: and instead says they gave him free content lmao. I don't care how nervous you are if that's your profession you should be able to talk about it with interesting depth rather than saying they pay you to market them with free access lmao. Do you know what I mean?

But yeah man it's truly fucked for most of these dudes. Bad looking, low IQ, socially inept, inarticulate, basic humour... man.
 
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Too cringe for me to make it all the way through. They are both like 95th percentile looks. She IQ mogs him. As has been mentioned he sounded medicated. Firefighter is only viewed as high status by blue collar females in US. FF is barely even a job in 2022, everything is flame retardant now, it is actually hard to light a house on fire. I don't understand the premise, she lives in US and he in Europe, both are conventionally attractive, why the fuck would they want to have some awkward cyber relationship?

Looooooooool :ROFLMAO: agreed with most of what you just said

Wait, wait wait tho?

You just said they are both 95th percentile in looks tho? What?
 
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She was being honest when she said they don't have much in common. The guy is boring and male gazemaxxed. She can find 100000000000000000 of him if she opens Tinder. Unironically what girls want are non-NPC good looking guys. Personalitypill I guess? But it's just true. In conjunction with what I said before.

It's more of a physiognomy thing about how girls can predict your personality from your looks and how you present yourself in terms of style and demeanor. - That's what femalegaze is.

Malegaze is the raw looks part and it applies to guy and girls. For example some Cardi B/ Nicki Minaj with big assess flying around everywhere is Malegaze on the other side. It's not only dudes who can malegazemaxx.

Femalegaze includes the emotional side of attraction/love and is focused on more subtle things than outright good looks and sex appeal.

high IQ user lmao
 

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