Hair loss from steroid abuse is mostly from abusing test rather than genetics.

[VeryFuglyNiyguhs]

These are some of the most famous bodybuilders from the 70s. Most people on this forum can easily recognize the first 2. Why did none of these men have really bad hair loss? The secret was not using testosterone as the main drug of choice. The ones in the old days that did bald were genetically destined to it and probably used test bases.

That is the reason modern ifbb pros outside of very small pool of modern bodybuilders are bald. Abusing test bases is largely what causes baldness from steroids. Some roidheads blame their trenbolone for it, but it's the testosterone they have been abusing far longer that killed their instead of trenbolone.

 

[randomuser2407]

It's actually both. But people who would have lost their hair later in life are the only ones who will lose their hair from doing a reasonable dose of steroids. So, for someone like me who has very thick hair, they wouldn't lose their hair, even if they used steroids for their entire life. But for someone who was meant to lose their hair eventually, they would lose it faster with steroids.

But hair loss isn't the only negative side effect of steroid use.

 

[Deleted member 17735]

It's both combined, higher test = higher DHT. More DHT to bind to the hair folicale, thus shortening the anagen phase causing miniaturasation which is genetic.

 

[LastHopeForNorman]

Deca only is god Like for hair and skin it seems.
Padilla and Black guy did it

Deca increase procolagen production and lack of strong androgens (only dhn in system)
Mąkę hair grow back

 

[VeryFuglyNiyguhs]

Deca only is god Like for hair and skin it seems.
Padilla and Black guy did it

Deca increase procolagen production and lack of strong androgens (only dhn in system)
Mąkę hair grow back

In the golden era, the main compounds of choice were dbol + deca.

 

[LastHopeForNorman]

In the golden era, the main compounds of choice were dbol + deca.

Yeah
Dbol deca and primo
Arnold did it

 

[VeryFuglyNiyguhs]

Yeah
Dbol deca and primo
Arnold did it

There was also negma parabolan, a very powerful variant of tren not produced in its original form anymore it was tren for human use. Serge Nubret used it. Winstrol proviron and cadaver hgh.

 

[Deleted member 17763]

It's actually both. But people who would have lost their hair later in life are the only ones who will lose their hair from doing a reasonable dose of steroids. So, for someone like me who has very thick hair, they wouldn't lose their hair, even if they used steroids for their entire life. But for someone who was meant to lose their hair eventually, they would lose it faster with steroids.

But hair loss isn't the only negative side effect of steroid use.

That's not really how it works though. Pretty much every man will experience some amount of hair loss eventually. How many 60 year olds have you seen with a nw0 and good density? It's not really a matter of if you're prone to balding, it's more a question of when will it start and how rapid will it be. Also even having incredibly thick hair doesn't indicate that you're safe from the norwood reaper, I learned that one the hard way

 

[randomuser2407]

That's not really how it works though. Pretty much every man will experience some amount of hair loss eventually. How many 60 year olds have you seen with a nw0 and good density? It's not really a matter of if you're prone to balding, it's more a question of when will it start and how rapid will it be. Also even having incredibly thick hair doesn't indicate that you're safe from the norwood reaper, I learned that one the hard way

The men in my family on my mom's side never lost their hair, even when they were 90 years old, that is how I know I will never lose my hair, because my hair genetics come from that side of the family (actually, my maternal grandmother's family).

 

[Deleted member 7752]

It's actually both. But people who would have lost their hair later in life are the only ones who will lose their hair from doing a reasonable dose of steroids. So, for someone like me who has very thick hair, they wouldn't lose their hair, even if they used steroids for their entire life. But for someone who was meant to lose their hair eventually, they would lose it faster with steroids.

But hair loss isn't the only negative side effect of steroid use.

The issue is truly knowing where you are destined to lose your hair, eg my dad's bald, but my hair is super thick but my mum's side all have hair.

You would think I would be inclined for hair loss eventually, but it's not guaranteed, I may never lose my hair.
That's the issue most people have deciding roids typically

 

[Gaia262]

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These are some of the most famous bodybuilders from the 70s. Most people on this forum can easily recognize the first 2. Why did none of these men have really bad hair loss? The secret was not using testosterone as the main drug of choice. The ones in the old days that did bald were genetically destined to it and probably used test bases.

That is the reason modern ifbb pros outside of very small pool of modern bodybuilders are bald. Abusing test bases is largely what causes baldness from steroids. Some roidheads blame their trenbolone for it, but it's the testosterone they have been abusing far longer that killed their instead of trenbolone.

Testosterone is a meme, as a blackpilled forum we need to stamp this out.

It's good for health reasons if you are aged or have clinically low T . But a healthy adult male injecting it is low IQ.

Scientists created steroids such as anavar and primobolan for this reason to be a safer more efficacious alternative.

I would say try it if you respond negatively then just bin it and move on.

 

[Deleted member 15748]

afaik the DHT stuff (non aromatising), anavar, primo, mast, tren rapes your hair the most
test secondly since it converts
and then deca dbol and that stuff last, but that bloats you, gives you gyno

 

[Tobias Fünke]

Testosterone is a meme, as a blackpilled forum we need to stamp this out.

It's good for health reasons if you are aged or have clinically low T . But a healthy adult male injecting it is low IQ.

Scientists created steroids such as anavar and primobolan for this reason to be a safer more efficacious alternative.

I would say try it if you respond negatively then just bin it and move on.

True. Very hard to find genuine Anavar though. Test is readily available and cheap.

 

[VeryFuglyNiyguhs]

Testosterone is a meme, as a blackpilled forum we need to stamp this out.

It's good for health reasons if you are aged or have clinically low T . But a healthy adult male injecting it is low IQ.

Scientists created steroids such as anavar and primobolan for this reason to be a safer more efficacious alternative.

I would say try it if you respond negatively then just bin it and move on.

Price is why they recommend test

Primo and var are relatively pricey and tren is only for balls to the walls shit.

Although the poison and magic from the bottle is in the dosage. Astrosky takes TRT and a tiny dose of tren, but he'd easily pass as a natty.

Those baby dose cycles Derek preaches won't make you simeon panda. It takes a lot more than that to look like this:

 

[Deleted member 15866]

primobolan

too expensive. even raw is too fucking expensive. on the top of that rapes your hair and it doesnt put that much muscle.

 

[Papi]

DHT is a meme af.

How can DHT rape your hair on your scalp, while at the same time it increases and thickens your hair on your beard, eyebrows, neck, chest, back, arms and legs?

it's not like you have high level of DHT in one place and low in another.

Balding from testosterone is individual thing - some people take just Sustanon (Testosterone Mix) to max their testosterone level while keeping it in brackets (e.g. TTR), and some just start balding after first month (4 injections) or they start having their hair getting grey, or nothing happens (anything noticeable).

Even if your father or grandfather did bald, it does not mean you'll bald the same - I for example have much more body hair and thicker hair than my father, and my scalp did less get bald than his.

Sure DHT can rape hair if the skin along with hair follicles are not nourishes enough by proper blood flow circulation and proper nourish in blood. Or you may have some other skin issues - this happens as well.

Of course abusing steroids can lead to hair loss, but before that happens I am certain af that you have huge problems in your system - morfo and other hormons are total shit at this point.

 

[Realism]

DHT is a meme af.

How can DHT rape your hair on your scalp, while at the same time it increases and thickens your hair on your beard, eyebrows, neck, chest, back, arms and legs?

it's not like you have high level of DHT in one place and low in another.

Balding from testosterone is individual thing - some people take just Sustanon (Testosterone Mix) to max their testosterone level while keeping it in brackets (e.g. TTR), and some just start balding after first month (4 injections) or they start having their hair getting grey, or nothing happens (anything noticeable).

Even if your father or grandfather did bald, it does not mean you'll bald the same - I for example have much more body hair and thicker hair than my father, and my scalp did less get bald than his.

Sure DHT can rape hair if the skin along with hair follicles are not nourishes enough by proper blood flow circulation and proper nourish in blood. Or you may have some other skin issues - this happens as well.

Of course abusing steroids can lead to hair loss, but before that happens I am certain af that you have huge problems in your system - morfo and other hormons are total shit at this point.

You're an idiot.
Either your hair follicles are genetically predisposed to being sensitive to DHT, resulting in the well understood male pattern baldness or their not.
Why are morons like you arguing against something that has been well understood and established for so long?

 

[Papi]

You're an idiot.
Either your hair follicles are genetically predisposed to being sensitive to DHT, resulting in the well understood male pattern baldness or their not.
Why are morons like you arguing against something that has been well understood and established for so long?

Because simpletons like you cannot understand that the issues with hair follicles relate not only to DHT.

 

[Realism]

Because simpletons like you cannot understand that the issues with hair follicles relate not only to DHT.

OK papi.